How do we solve this issue in gaming?
>>736058615Tell them gaming accomplishments are no substitute for a lack of irl ones.
If you're truly playing for fun, you don't care if you win or lose.You are a wanna-be competitive player who has to compensate for lack of skill by convincing yourself you're a casual player.
>>736058664>overcompetitive
>toxicTranny
Kill the people who play for fun.
>>736058615SBMM
>>736058615By making a game that stops them from being cheap spammers with the power of homegrown weed, 18p home made hard soda, prescription vyvanse and ROID
>>736058615log off and mow your lawn, do your taxes, spend an hour pushing out a log or whatever it is uncs do
You think that developers want to fix this?The sweaty try hards want to kill noobs and GUESS who's spending the most money.
>>736058615Didn't Arc Raiders fixed that? Separating casuals from hardcore players
>>736058830Who tf be playin Unc Raiders bruh? Ong Timmies fr?
Playing online games for fun is a losing strategy
>>736058615Add ranked system and causal matchmaking.
Sakurai had the right idea with smash, ignore them for the most part but throw them a bone so everyone else is safe
Report NEET feature to government feature.300+ hours auto flags.
>>736058615have fun being bad lmao
>>736058615Separate servers like Pokemon is doing with Champions. Champions will be for competitive and the normal games for casuals
>>736058909No one knows how to play Melee except me. Turns out running back and forth is a retarded strategy because you end up running into my attacksQueue the Unc Music:Side A-https://youtu.be/bWPdT54xf_sSide B-Super Funky Unchttps://youtu.be/GH3PUCYHsIc
>>736059019First time hearing of ranked servers?
>>736058920the problem is they just can't handle losing at all.
>>736058615DEDICATED SERVERS!YOU USE DEDICATED SERVERS! WHY DON'T GAMES USE DEDICATED SERVERS ANYMORE?! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!
>>736058615server browsers
>>736059072Chill bludUnc be actin goofy
>>736059072>>736059093zoomzooms are literally too retarded for this
>>736058615sbmm
I play for fun, but no I shouldn't lose against people better or that put in more effort than me!
>>736058615Slavery mechanics that make the two playstyles compatible. Tryhards benefit through some tangible advantage when they enslave casuals, and casuals benefit because the slavery mechanics are designed to ensure they're getting lots of fun interactions.
>>736058902
>>736058615Smash 4 solved it more than a decade ago and everyone just forgot about it.
>>736058749>>736059047what made you troon out? were you an incel porn addict or were you raped
>>736059386Well they didn't really "solve" the problem, they just made the problem 10 times worse because autists deliberately went into For Fun games to be annoying since there's the unignorable factor that these people are so obnoxious they can't deny that they don't even want to be around each other.
>>736059479>T. Retarded Falcon Player who thinks he's good yet never uses his B moves
>>736058615so you lost at a video game and now youre running character assassinations on social media wide band to get your way? you miserable faggot retard liar pile of shit? i'd tell you to grow up be we all know you're incapable of doing anything but scramble to manipulate to get your way. stupid fuckin loser. you can't play a game fair and square you just HAVE to get your way? pathetic stupid retard I can't stand your type.
>>736059386>nintendo invented unranked
>>736058920It was never about tryhards or sweats. It's just "I lost so this person is trying too hard". Even if it's another retard who barely knows how to play the game. You can never make people like OP happy.
>>736058615Design the game so casuals don't show up in the first place.
>>736059386Why are the sounds so much softer now?Melee had really hard hitting sounds which made the impact feel greater. This is what I aim to solve with my gameuuuuhttps://youtu.be/TuHeOQ6JK5c
>>736059639Not really. I can deal with tryhards when a game is fine but tryhards are extremely likely to defend shit anti-fun design and not see a problem with a game that gets narrower the better you get at it.
>>736058615People will say to just have separate modes for casual and ranked but that doesn't solve anything either since the turbo fags with 5000+ hours in a game will just go into casual with their Discord troon buddies to pub stomp.
>>736058615There's no such thing as "overcompetitive." If it's a competitive game, you are either competitive or not and if you aren't you shouldn't be playing it. It's that simple. Problem solved. End of story.
>>736059072I miss BF4...
>>736059739You got beat by somebody spamming projectiles in a fighting game didn't you?
>>736059559It's not the same thing. Fighting games with ranked and unranked are poised in such a way that unranked only exists for people to "take a break" from the stress of ranked matches. So you will still find tryhards there. For Fun and For Glory make a much more clear distinction between casual play and hardcore play, hence the difference in rulesets.
>>736059739Just dodge chaingrab and downsmash>wha..?Just dodge chaingrab and downsmash.Solved.https://youtu.be/z_iBtMD4PHk>tranny shits himself and ACKs
>>736059798Probably but I don't complain about that when it happens, I have the tools to deal with it and if I don't use them well enough that's on me. That's not anti-fun, that's playing the game. This is more about the kind of retards who defend Starcraft bad pathfinding or don't have a problem with an ASSFAGGOTS releasing completely fucked characters every other week.
>>736059739>anything that beats me is anti-fun
>>736059784Sounds like you're just a shitter who can't handle your own inadequacies and hates losing
>>736059941>and hates losingEveryone hates losing you dumb shit
>>736058615By making better games.Imagine how interesting the world would be if sex was a sport, a game, for example.How would "toxic overcompetitive players" screw over the ones that do it for fun?
>>736060024then git gud
>>736060096Porn.
>>736060131But how would porn relate to sex as a game?
I like ARC Raider's solutionfigure out a non skill-based method to separate tryhards from non-tryhards
>>736059937Nope.
>>736058615I found casuals tend to be far more toxic than supposed 'tryharders'
>>736059691Won't work, toxic players thrive in environments that benefit them. If they don't have anyone to prey on then they will quickly lose interest. Its not like they're even there to play the game anyway.
>>736058615By realizing that what people call "toxic and overcompetitive" is really just fun for those people, and they realize that (you) treat multiplayer video games as an excuse to socialize and "vibe" rather than because you are passionate about the game itself. That's why you suck at them and never even try to get better, because you don't care enough to. That's why you want me to intentionally hold myself back and let you win.
>>736060191Hacks.Roids make your pp biggie
>>736060356If the process of getting better at them isn't fun to them you'd have to be literally retarded to ask them to do it.
>>736058615You solve it by telling the people on the left to stop playing multiplayer games if they aren't interested in competition with other players.
>>736060356In Melee it's more like you're holding back from using all your moves and just spam A or Grab let's be real. You aren't playing the full game...just cucking
>>736058615define "fun"if its smoking a bowl with open mic while your chimp music plays, fuck off back to ps5 where your skin tone belongs.
>>736058615You don't. Toxicity sorts out autists. Know how I learn? By getting told that I'm acting retarded enough times.
>>736058664this
every fucking game has a ranked mode just to boost retentionoverwatch on release was fun because it was just polished TF2then they took away people picking the same character, then they added ranked, then it turned into another mindless fps compfag nightmare. Halo did the same thingstop forcing the playerbase to take your VIDEO GAME seriously niggers just make it FUN
>>736058664>you don't care if you win or loseThis is only true if the match you're playing in is actually somewhat fun and actually balanced. There's many times when I would lose but the match was so back and forth that it was still fun. If you're just getting stomped match after match then even the casuals are going to get fed up with that eventually.
>>736060391My response is in the post you responded to >>736060454Yeah I think that's a dumb exploit found only in fighting games, like glitching into an object in a shooter or something.
>>736060703This is exactly why Starcraft has dogshit player retention outside of autistic Koreans.
>>736058615server browser
>>736060721Wavedashing is slop.Also in Chivalry it seems like zoomers throw games now and no one is seriousI'm just gonna stick to single player uncslop now
>>736058615Problem solves itself. Competitive multiplayer games are dying.
>>736060968I have the solution:1v1 no cheese Simple as
>>736058664>If you're truly playing for fun, you don't care if you win or lose.NO SHIT YOU FUCKING RETARDTHAT'S WHY THE IMAGE SAYS "PLAY FOR FUN"You just have this shit made up in your head that you wanna attribute to people because you're obsessed with winning and think that's all anyone cares about.CLEARLY the meme is instead referring to the fact that people will just play for fun, and then players that are obsessed with winning (hence overcompetitive) will whine and bitch or otherwise be rude regardless of whether you're on their team or not (hence toxic), and thus act as an annoyance (hence the spray can)The casuals don't care that they lost, they care that you're being a screeching shithead that can't read the room
>>736060968In what way are they dying they are still the most played games globally?
>>736059270Rorke going to the shoppe
>>736059691>TF2>toxic and overcompetitiveLiterally the exact opposite problem since its inception.It's always been a game for fart huffing casuals that can't focus on actually playing the game.Hell, /v/ can't shut up when glazing the game that "they're not forced to sweat like in those filthy 5v5 and 8v8 games and can just do silly shit the whole time"It's literally a retirement home for midwit millennials that want to think they're hot shit. It's part of why they also keep trying to get it classified as an arena shooter for some fucktard reason.
>>736058645Why not?
>>736058615Community servers. It's really that easy.
>>736061089Roblox doesn't count.
>>736058664Trvke NUKE
Just don't play competitive games if you don't want to have to tryhard. That's what I do.
>>736061727I just play Melee the right way and it genuinely scares and BTFOs trannies. Now I'm making my own game cause I'm sick of skipping Foxes and Falcos. I would ask for patreon sheks but it doesn't really look like I even need them yet. I'm a ways out from going to Japan to hire VAs cause Gaijin are slop
>is on your team>Does worse than a bot because a bot doesnt break down every 2 mins for a hit>"Dude chill" to any kind of attack
>>736058615mandatory piss test before playing any online gameI know all of gen z is on amphetamines
All multiplayer pvp games have become competitive slop.Only PVE games are safe from this disaster.
>>736061865Quentin Claws made this post
>>736062174Nope. Not my game. Solved it. https://youtu.be/7Id2PWIm2g8
multiplayer games are for fagsyou deserve whatever happens to you
>>736060356there is a definite separation from>"playing competently and wanting to win"and>"playing so optimally that your gameplay is nigh-unbeatable for the average person, they wouldn't even be able to get at least a few lucky kills on you because you're just THAT good"its one thing to play a game with a high skill ceiling and complain about always getting outclassed by people who have played the game more than you, its another entirely to be unable to play at all because you keep getting killed by some guy who clearly spends all waking hours on this one gameeven still there is a growing number of people who have a "toxic and overcompetitive" playstyle who also do not enjoy playing against other people with a "toxic and overcompetitive" playstyle, which is why smurfing happensit is ALWAYS more fun to be the ones stomping the other players into dust than to be one of the players being stomped into dustsome players realize this and instead just try to have fun without going into must-kill-everything sweat mode, which just makes coming across people who treat games that should be played for fun like a job all the more tiresome
>>736061865I fucking hate playing video games with people who smoke.>constant breaks mid gameplay to go fuck off>anytime we have any kind of downtime>brb smoke>they come back like 15 minutes later while making everyone else wait
>>736062828multiplayer games are the most game possible
>>736058615Gaming? It’s actually the blight of humanity as a whole. Compfags are inherently losers who drag down everyone. >but le competition of le resources Even within the basic struggle of man vs nature, it is inherently a cooperative affair with your fellow man. Being competitive is a trait that only losers have. It was always a coping mechanism. It’s literally why the world keeps getting worse, CEOs and politicians have the same phenotype as league of legend players. They can’t succeed in avenues of cooperation, because that’s something everyone can engage in, they need to basically gatekeep normal human beings by making it needless competitive. And with this weasel phenotype in power they shift civilization to better fit their neurotic incel self, rather than normal people.
As someone who's gotten autistically good at a select few online games, it's absolutely possible to scale yourself down and fuck around a bit when you realize the other team is full of noobs. If you don't do this, you need to admit that your main draw to the game is just dunking on retards to make yourself feel good.
>>736062861>it is ALWAYS more fun to be the ones stomping the other players into dust than to be one of the players being stomped into dustNo it’s really not. Take ganking in an MMO. Leveling while trying to avoid gankers is way more fun and tense than just playing whack a mole with lowbies.
>>736062828>>736062952You're both wrong1v1 is the only way to game.
>>7360631141v1 is just nim with extra steps which means it's a solved game
Its called ranked. But its literally a role reversal where casuals are entering a non casual mode and complaining that they cant win. Its always the same shit. Children just hate the word casual becauae they find it demeaning, until your an adult and learn to enjoy things again. Keep sweaty shit in sweaty mode, and casuals stay in casual mode.
>>736058615>How do we solve this issue in gaming?Embrace singleplayer and PvE games.Yes, this will make PvPfags seethe greatly.Yes, that is already hilarious to watch with the Arc Raiders matchmaking scandal.
>>736058615Have server browsers with community servers next to a ranked matchmaking system. Its simple
>>736058615>How do we solve this issue in gaming?Git good or turn off the multiplayer option.You know the sayin: If you cant take the heat then get out of the kitchen.
>>736063195It’s just a game, it is inherently casual, being sweaty about essentially any trivial activity is deeply pathetic
>>736063465soulless perspective
>>736063462>You know the sayin: If you cant take the heat then get out of the kitchen.Except when all the cooks leave the kitchen because the chef keeps throwing kitchen utensils at them, the chef throws a huge bitchfit over there being no more cooks.
>>736063139You're gonna love this.What you're seeing is a pvpThis is what's known as a pvp 2 or an ascended game that has ascended past an ascended gameAnd THIS...https://youtu.be/lzKNuNsbaX4
>>736063548KEK
>>736063510It’s the exact opposite, only the soulless dregs of humanity are competitive in meme activities.
>>736058615just git gud, deal with it, or leaveI suck at multiplayer games and I still play them if I find them fun, losing a game isn't gonna ruin my dayJust dbab
>>736063625you on the other hand are only competitive for what, money? fame?
>>736063625The mfers who play mobas for 6+ hours a day, it’s like the digital equivalent of fent addicts there is no human left
>>736063630>Git gud, scrub, lmao>WTF you can't just leave the game!? This is some bullshit, now I am stuck with chinese hackers!
>>736063717See>>736063042Only dysgenic freaks are competitive
>>736063535Except that never happens. It's ackshually the opposite where casuals cry there aren't enough people because the only people left are veterans dedicated to the game. Shitters say the darnest things kek.
>>736063830See>>736063738Not true
>>736063768the difference is in whether someone can have fun even when they loseplaying to win for fun is peak humanity, the dysgenic freaks are the ones who get mad about it or can't understand the cooperative delight of competition
>>736063738What the fuck are you talking about? Leaving is an option I mentioned in the first fucking sentence
>>736063830Why are you defending when games die and the only fags keeping it “alive” are a circlejerk of discord gooners
>>736063465soulful perspective. did you notice that competitive players always hangout around gays and trans freaks? that's because you have to be mentally ill to keep playing the same game for hours every day. you are probably talking to a gay nigger right now
>>736063830That's literally happening with Marathon right now its pretty funny
>>736059386Pic unrelated. Every stage was fucking FD.
>>736063830everyone is a casual to the sweatiest sweatlord left standing on the battlefield
>>736063830>Except that never happensIt happens all the fucking time lmao, most recently with Arc Raiders and Marathon.
>>736063872It’s about motivation, I don’t consider sport to be inherently competitive. It’s like how banter with your friends is not inherently insulting. It’s about the essence of why you are partaking in an activity. You can play to win, because it is fun to do so. It is fun to share success with others. It’s why team games are typically more popular than 1v1 which attracts actual autists like in chess.
>>736061069>toku poster>retardationname a more iconic duo. You can't.
>>736064043>I don’t consider sport to be inherently competitive.ah, so you're retarded then
>>736063872>playing to win for fun is peak humanityCorrect, playing to ruin other people's fun is niggardly though. It's a subtle but large difference.
>>736064097correct, which is why SBMM or an analogue is crucial for any multiplayer game whether it's PVP or PVE
>>736064085>lower case ESLFigures
>>736063927>>736063984>extraction shootersCasual babyfests I'm very obviously talking about genres like RTS/T and fighters. I don't give a fuck about clickly shooty man games. Also you didn't post any proof of your claims that those games are facing an exodus of cooks and chefs are crying there aren't any cooks left.
>>736064085This is objectively true and why basically most sports started as some sort of mock exercise for a real activity such as hunting or battle, and are played in teams (cooperative). If sport was at its essence a competitive activity it would have began as 1v1. Especially in early human society with much smaller populations, but it did not. Because the default state of humanity is to engage in cooperation.
>>736058615Make two modes that are completely identical but in one mode, players are explicitly allowed to shit-talk and kick you if you suck.I'm not saying a competitive mode or ranked or anything like that, I mean these two modes are completely identical in every single way except one mode has no "anti-bullying" rules
>>736064148>I'm very obviously talking about obscure dead genres nobody plays anymoreWhy would you assume we thought you were talking about non-games?
>>736064240it's baffling that you can't understand how a team game can be competitive
>people are toxic because they're better than me at gamesWaaah waaah waaah
>I have fun getting assraped in COMPETITIVE queueNo wonder homos are so weak.
>>736064240Yeah the pinnacle of civilization the greeks definitely did not EVER have 1v1 sports yup niggerball is the default state of humanity not wrestling>>736064264>im very obviously talking about games that are still played by dedicated veteransOh nooo it doesn't have 6 million players like muh cawadoodie.....that's too bad no casuals dirtying the place up.
>>736064335>What the fuck why am I being forced to fight all the sweatlords like myself, where did all the chaff and free kills go!?Waaah waaah waaah
>>736058664Over-competitive players literally think every pub game is a scrim and everyone should be in voice and follow in game leader calls.Not understanding most players have other things to work on, and the calls are mostly shit.
>>736058615My solution is not to purchase or play competitive games. Games don't have to be for everyone.
>>736064302It’s baffling you mistake a cooperative team activity with a competitive one.>>736064358You are ESL
>>736064302Team sports are cooperative activities with the veneer of being competitive, not the other way around. Again, if it was about competition then 1v1 would have been the inception of sport, not team based.
>>736063535>>736063830>the chef throws a huge bitchfit over there being no more cooks.In most cases, the difference between players is so high that you're almost worse having them then nobody at all. In co-op PvE games, those players usually result in having to spend 5x longer doing something then you would normally.What really ends up happening is, the people at the higher end become increasingly isolated and exclusive, literally only playing with each other and forming gay little communities that allows them to only join with each other, and the rest of the game "dies out" because PUGs and randomly putting together groups end up with only the worst players who inevitably grow sick of each other.
>>736064454You're absolutely right, a game with players is in a much worse state than a dead game.
>>736064406>>736064445>if it's not 1v1 then it has teamwork in it which means it cannot be competitive
>>736058615arc raiders solved it, it's not that hard
Stop playing arena shooters
>>736064567Still makes me laugh, they just pushed all the sweats to a special snowflake lobby. Where they then threw a huge bitchfit over having to deal with people with the same mindset as themselves.
>>736058615bite their ankles
>>736064548When you’re ESL and cannot understand what is being said, with an incel filename too, classic
>>736058615>UHMM ITS MULTIPLAYER ITS SUPPOSED TO BE COMPETITIVE>overcompetitive meganiggers get forced into lobbies with their own kind>AAAAAAAIEEEE YOU CANT DO THIS TO ME I JUST WANTED TO HAVE FUN THIS IS UNFAIR
>>736064548>I’m going to say you said thing that you didn’t say because I’m retarded and getting mad at imaginary things poo poo pee peezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz boring as fuck newfags still trying this shit in 2026 huh
What the fuck changed that casuals think they belong on /v/ casual is a slur so I expect you to start acting like it. Being bad at things is worse than being good at them. If you're going to play a game of any sort, board video sport, you should be trying to win. Playing with no strong intent to win is some woman shit. Give your balls a tug.
>>736058615Play single player games
>>736058615Filters, stop mixing them, if the game got a competitive scene then stop allowing casuals into it
>>736063872>the peak of humanity is for some subhuman mass of flesh that's melding with his chair to obsess over "winning" in a children's pastime that has existed for just a blink relative to the course of the species' historyuh, huh.sure.
>>736058664>Play for fun>Try hard immediately kills you every time you spawn and prevents you from playing the game>”Come on dude if you’re only trying to have fun you should never complain!”
>>736064804we are more than our flesh puppets, anonsharing experiences together is the apex of existence
>>736064843>we are more than our flesh puppets, anonliteral tranny rhetoric
Being overcompetetive doesn't mean someone's who's good at the gameit just means someone who's playing like an absolute little faggot, doing every meta thing possible that forces you to play a certain waythat or they have a little discord circlejerk to coordinate like there's money on the line; no one likes you niggas
>CTRL+F "Community" >Only Two results.>>736061340>>736063238
>>736064919>rejecting an appeal to spirit and soul because trannies existpottery
>>736058615Add so many random elements that being competitive is impossible without going insane. (then watch as half of the playerbase willingly goes insane)
>>736064930Whoever wins is better at the game short of hacking.
>>736065065they still play competitively. even if it's a party game. even if it's a children's game. autism is medical condition
>>736058615skill based matchmaking solve this, if you (( play for fun )) eventually you ll play with other shit tier players and it s fine
>>736058615top 1% get banned each month.
In the games I play, I play for fun but I'm naturally good enough to beat competitive players which sometimes makes them mad because I'm not hyper or angry about playing a game.I wouldn't call it an issue though, at least not for me. They're mad about it, not anyone else. Let them be mad until they learn not to be.
>>736058615you can't fix men
>>736064751>overcompetitive meganiggers get forced into lobbies with their own kind>AAAAAAAIEEEE YOU CANT DO THIS TO ME I JUST WANTED TO HAVE FUN THIS IS UNFAIR
>>736065329Based>Sorry but your account has been banned for obvious cheating or excessive tryharding>Please buy a new copy of the game to continue playing
>>736065594Dont put words in my mouth. I like playing strong players.
>>736064775That would be antisemitic
>>736064368>>736065594You made this up in your head, retard.
>>736062884*rips bong on mic**coughs*
The only way to 'fix' this issue is to play games with no win conditionAnd even thenEVEN THENpeople will find a way to be assholes
>>736065730Based
>>736058615>this issueWhat, whiny ass zoomers who are quitters and whine any time they're not instantly good at something? I'm not sure, man... personally I just tell them to git gud, or sarcastically say "gg".
>>736058615don't play competitive games if you don't want to compete?
>>736065703Need Monica gfTired of extrowomen
>>736058615You can't
>>736064843Do you not know what the word "dysgenic" means
>>736058664The reality is no one wants to get dumpstered in ways they can't even react against reflexively or skillfully. They can't even get better at the game against twats like you. And no one wants to be your kicking bag.
>>736064368I'm competitive and I never mind fighting good players. I prefer it because it makes me better and I get bored raping noobs.
>>736064804Actually I'm doing clamshells or planking when I game and do pushups when I rage or win.Then I make my own style of fighting game
>>736064919>having a soul is for tranniesNow this is peak /v/ contrarianism.
>>736065594>>AAAAAAAIEEEE YOU CANT DO THIS TO ME I JUST WANTED TO HAVE FUN THIS IS UNFAIRWhen does this happen? Who says this? I've only seen retards on /v/ say that.
>>736058615Game should have an actual ranked system, in league this is basically a non issue once you're in Diamond+
>>736058615you don't. because as long as anything is competitive, there will be a group of people who want to be the best. it's human nature. also the most toxic people are the ones who play for fun because they just want their victories handed to them with none of the effort the competitive players put in.t. lazy asshole who wants free wins.
>>736058615by getting away from the guy with the mace and doing your googoogaga babyshit somewhere elsenot making dogshit threads like these
>>736066269YABBA DABBA DOO!
>>736059739Everyone is shitty on you, but you're totally right. This is why games like sup com: FAF and melee are still around.Though I think trannies taking over melee will narrow the 'viable options' down enough that it'll finally die in the next few years.Having roshambo with >10 options and high but reasonable execution tests is legit the peak of PvP gaming right now
>>736066126Have you ever thought about going professional? I could use a man like you on my pro gamer team. I’m assembling a team of skilled gamers to win the championship game. I’ve already got your home address and will send you an invitation by drone.
>>736066468I'm fixing Melee. Fuck monkeying around on the ledge like a retard.
>>736058615ppl who call themselves casual are low iq retards in denial about theyr low skill being a low iq issue. i enjoy raping them in pvp games and then calling them out on being low iq and making them cry it makes me feel superior but on the other hand it makes me loose hope in humanity since they are proof that the average joe is these days profoundly retarded.
>>736066250Human beings have soulsFat subhuman trannies like you do notSorry not sorry
>736066540>teleports behind you >ruins your irl kdr like i ruined your video game one>nothen personel
>>736058615EasyStop fags who "play for fun" from playingIf you suck at a video game you should just kill yourself
>>736058615Ad-hoc server connections, built in choose your own difficulty setting. Sweats can scrim in whatever 3x3 prison cell they want into eternity and everyone else can play the official and fan maps.>you don't. because as long as anything is competitive, there will be a group of people who want to be the best.I think you are right about human nature, the framing that you can only have one type of player seems like Matchmaking/SBMM fatalism. There are always multiple kinds of players, but these systems only favor one, the metagamer and sweat.
>>736066553These days they’ll just say you’re schizophrenic for beating them, then they’ll go smoke up in their big house and cuddle up next to a big ass which is the normal white experience. Us Asian gamers get to take home their rating at least, I like to also shake them down at the market and charge them more than they want to pay for the same product they could easily find elsewhere. It’s just like a silent thing you can do.
>>736058664This is actually kind of true. >>736058615Main point though, you need a seperate mode solely for pure fun, that's the only option.Both sides have a point. Sure, you wanna "have fun" and that's justified; but if "having fun" means sucking ass and making your team lose, then that's selfish and ruining their "fun"If it's not a team game though, then just stop being a faggot and suck on your own, who cares? Or just play PvE."But I'm getting ganked by better players" so... git gud? Like, are they supposed to play below their own level for you?
>>736058615Ah yes the>i play for fun but i only inexplicably queue ranked for some reasonplayer.my favorite.
>>736058664You're not winning if you don't spike KO or star KO
>>736058664only true in well balanced gamestryhard fags will invade my kusoge and pick the 1 or 2 broken setups, then they say anyone who isn't a meta slave is playing the game wrong. In reality they are pussies who won't play a real competitive game so they pick something where they can stomp on people trying to have fun in a casual game.
>>736058645They do not care.See autistic failures at life grinding for 999.999 points in sonic racing crossworld. They will spend literally years doing it because that's the only thing they have in their lives.Like >>736058664 this specimen.
>>736058615I have a revolutionary idea about a list of game lobbies, some even created and hosted by players themselves, from which people could pick the one that matches their playstyle! I've even thought about having password protection for some of these lobbies, lobby based voice communication, maybe allow lobby owners to customize the map rotation and add wholly new maps! Players returning to the same lobbies would build and foster communities as usernames get more familiar over time. Imagine a future for multiplayer games where you no longer have to trust the black box of matchmaking for your enjoyment and can instead choose for yourself!
>>736058615...by not playing competitive games?
>>736066934This is like engaging in I dunno, stamp collecting as a hobby, and getting mad at people who have a better collection.The guy is 100% right; if you were just after fun you wouldn't care that you got stomped.As is rational, you want to win, and are just angry that you can't. You can win world tournaments with a Pachurisu; you just have to be good and know what you're doing.Legitimately gaming, or at least online gaming, might not be for people like youYou. Play. To. Win. The. Game. As some basketball player said, I think.
>>736066953are you making a snarky reddit-post about having player-ran servers?
>>736058615Quit forcing them to play together.
>>736067062Whatever makes you sleep at night, bro.Just remember, you are literally the cancer killing online games and nobody wants to play with you.Go on and dominate a bunch of toddlers and kids like a tryhard subhuman in fall guys to feel good about yourself.
>>736067206are you comparing your competency in games to toddlers and kids in this metaphor
>>736067062I can't even use half my moves thanks to the punish game, admit it, troon. You've been had!I'm basically forced to skip using counter if I want to (((win)))That's not playing the game.That's playing cheap spammy fuckwit retard drivel
I play for fun. I've gotten people so mad they're cussing at me in a lobby afterwards. Toxicity is just part of the culture and if you can't handle it, don't play online. I keep my mic off, teabag everyone, try whatever sweat tactics I learn about, and am just okay enough to do well. Then I go back to work, gym, fucking my wife, and the rest of my normie lifestyle. Whiners are more annoying than sweats. If I ever meet a talkative sweat I just make fun of them until they start screeching at me.
>>736064940Playing Super Battle Golf made me realize how much I missed server culture, just pure hilarious chaos
>>736058615>hate competition>plays competitive gamesactual casual gamers don't care about this fake discourse because they're enjoying their single player games and friendslopall this bitching is just a way for bad players to cope with losing in a competitive game.they're not "playing just for fun", if they themselves weren't competitive they wouldn't be playing in the first placethey're competitive players who are bad sports about it
>>736067197That's literally impossible. Even games that have casual and competitive modes can't do it. There are plenty of people who only play casual modes but treat it like it's hardcore comp mode.
>>736067206Genuinely bro, competitive games aren't for you. That simple.Just play single-player games, that's what I do.
>>736067283>>736067286Multiplayer is not competitive it's extroslop. Introverts are a superior evolution and we know what's really going on politically and that it's (((extroverts))) lurking around every corner of the globe causing all the world's problems. https://youtu.be/OFp4AJyYzzM?si=s_4vZg9-VkTVsaJw
>>736066063thats why you should play ranked with SBMM so you dont get rekt and play against people of your skill level
>>736067404Interacting with other human beans doesn't automatically render you an extrovert. That's like saying getting a job is extroverted
>>736067245>why aren't you retarding yourself so I can win?!?
>Play TLOU Factions >Hunting Rifle / Shorty>Village>Some dude keeps rushing me in tight corridors>Keep downing him with shorty>Spends the end of match yelling at me in the lobby that I need to stop using a noon gunI like when self proclaimed experts use self defeating tactics and then expect me to change it up for their sake. I'm not even a hardcore player. Some people are just dumb.
>>736067404>Multiplayer is not competitiveYes it is, frog fucker. The rest of your post is now moot.
>>736067404things can have multiple qualities at oncehope this helps
>>736067486This.It's easy to use "meta" against people. Tons of people just don't think, they read what is meta and run it, but if you use your own brain and find or create a counter, many people are left lost and enraged.
>>736064940took like 100 posts till this was posted, /v/ is finished
>>736067453Wagie, wagie, wagie...unless you're battling other men and sexxing women, you're an extroslop. This is why we're the peak of humanity, friendships are gay and a waste of time.Now that self sufficiency technology has enabled us to live our lives completely non-reliant on others, our era is finally here. IntroKings will Rule this Planet with an Iron Fist. Cities will require Visas. Everyone will live on extremely remote homesteads and must journey for days with no obnoxious engines to see their gay little friends...and only temporarily, no gatherings large enough to become a menace and cause all the wars and shit anymore. >>736067457I win anyway, but not with a cool counter unless I'm like 3 lives ahead(a common occurrence) cause all these faggots know how to do is "punish" and (((cheese)))
>>736058615Easy way for extractions is to put up bounties and have some sort of mechanic where you can track places they have been but not currently. A more creative approach is have your game have tasks that requires multiple people for it to work. Something like a wall where you need to push someone up and you both have to activate something to progress.
>>736067523>>736067537Competition is one on one, not a "team effort"Now go gangbang the coach, football faggots. I got some rock climbing to do. Solo.
>>736058615Skill based matchmaking
>>736067557But again this is different in poorly balanced gamesTake Elden Ring, where dual greatspears used to be basically impossible to win against with the vast majority of setups. Elden Ring is not a particularly competitive game, it was not balanced with pvp in mind. So, if the "competitive" players actually cared about competition they would play a different game, instead of looking up an OP setup on YouTube that invalidates the majority of playstyles. Someone who does that is just a faggot who makes the game less interesting for everybody. I remember when I won against one of these fags, using a mediocre weapon, he tried to use a (now-patched) glitch to instakill me. They're just insufferable griefers.
>>736067708i love how retarded you areyou're my pet
>>736058615Server browser/thread
>>736058615my idea of fun is being competitive and winning
>>736058664trvke, spbp, /thread
>>736067746That's fair.I'm speaking purely from multiplayer games, it is a common issue of online elements being shit in single-player games
>>736067747Not an argument.You know what's full of extroverts?Our corrupt government. You know who's the only one capable of being a benevolent prosperous King?An Introvert.
>>736058615Bottom left should read "shitters with overinflated egos" and top right should read "reality".
>>736067708>Rock climbingOh you're one of those fags. Not athletic enough for a real sport and competition scares you. Hear you loud and clear, bitch boy.
>>736067854ok retard
>>736067919Say that to his face on the wall, pussy
>>736067206You are a faggot retard and need to get out of our hobby.
>>736067919I also do cycling. But not in a team. Teams are for faggots. Cycling and Rock climbing are two of the toughest, most challenging sports, but it's nothing for an Introgod. That's why the Romans advised to hire a man in his 40s so he would be focused on his work rather than pining after his friends. IntroGODS are mature from birth. Extrocucks mainly never grow out of it.
>>736068028the romans were all gay and had lead poisoning
>>736067936>splatroon
>>736068125why are you talking, introvertgo back to your cuck wall
>>736068028Cycling is the most fun you can have on your own, especialy in the wilderness.Ever played Lonely Mountains: Downhill?
>>736058615>How do we solve this issue in gaming?Remove matchmaking and force people to use server browsers. Toxic overcompetitive players filter upwards away from casuals unless they are just performative.You even have situations like CS where they make and play in their own separate queues.
>>736068068https://youtu.be/fB8VGJnDUik
>>736068256cuck wall, NOW!
>>736058615Ranked mode, at least for fighting games
>>736068169I just boulder on the rocks on my property whenever I feel like it. >>736068172No I just bike around here often. I've never gotten much into indie gaming and don't have an expansive Steam library. I'm very busy working on my game and also don't have the know-how to get extensively into the depth of gaming, I often hear about and/or play games way later than most people. As any trve Introchvd should
>>736068256Alaric, The king of the visigoths did nothing wrong.Kill romans!Burn Romans!Nuke Rome!Hail Wodanaz!Hail The Goths!
>>736068028>Cycling and rock climbing>Toughest sportsGet in the pool and play me 1v1 in water polo you little bitch. No goggles, hairnets only.
>>736068385Nah you're a bunch of commie spies now.The Romans had SOVL, Germans tried to copy their philosophers and came up with shit like Mainlander who wrote about how everyone should kill themselves like trannies cause it's le heckin noble and trad or some shit. Most German philosophers assume everyone is autistic as they are so their work is mainly partisan.I'm actually writing a book on this and how friends are fake and gay. I have many introhobbies thanks to scientifically proven higher levels of grey matter.
>>736068589>Real Life Experience - RussiaK E KEK
>>736068370Lulus dress was so pathetic, like she was trying to show her goods off but failed to arouse me more than yuna could. I quickly fell in love, her gentle and caring personality mixed with her modest demeaner. When she finally kissed tidus underwater I felt myself being kissed by yuna too. Ended up crapping my pants I was so excited to go to the next area with my wife in my party, we weren’t just friends anymore. Lots of debate if tidus tapped dat underwater but we all believe yuna saves herself for later because she’s too goody two shoes to throw her ass back without a care in spira.
>>736068491As an intro genius I bet I would mog...but how about a bout of fencing instead? I'm developing my own sword style...like water.>>736068589This is also why Japanese make good games ruined by gaijin trannies. They didn't think W*stoids would be cheap retards. Sakvrai noted that even children knew how to use Falcon Pvnch
I like to fuck around and not try and jutsu and tbag tryhard trannies in fighting games while playing like a schizo. Sweatlords can have their fun, I'll have mine :)
>>736058920Highly skilled players in League make brand new accounts just to fuck with low ranked players
I play CS2 with my childhood mate whose the biggest FPS nerd ever, any FPS game he picks up he can top the leaderboard. He's got like 10k hours in CS2 while I've got maybe a tenth or fifth of that. Every single match we get into has a fight between him and some other player because the player may have done a stupid play or don't play with the team, while giving me handy advice on how to be less of a shitter. I believe he's simply a bit ignorant of the fact that he's got way better intuition and understanding of the game than the average player, he's always surprised when people have retard tactics. I think a bit of understanding from competitive players about the fact that not even half a percentage of people spend as much time on 100s of games that he has done with one.
>>736068650?americanstasi.comBeen going on since the end of WWIIDid you really think commies wouldn't swoop in immediately and suppress all free speech?Now it's here and McCarthy warned us. Commies are all soulless conformists who minmaxx
>>736068675>Bout of fencing I was scouted for potential Olympic training in fencing. You'd lose. Check this Saber style, water rock climbing bicycle boy.
>>736068913There are no stylesThe sword moves like water and cuts like the wind, formed by earth and transformed by the fire, in it, holds the fighter's spirit
>>736068987ENOUGH
>>736069075
>>736064063Nta, but>No argumentYou lost, tryhard autist-kun. That's gonna leave a mark on your elo.
>>736058664AAAAIIIEEEEE
>>736069186
>noo you can't kill me im friendly!!!thanks for the free phlog charge bozo
>>736058615Have "for fun" faggots get banned immediately from any competitive games.>b-b-but what about normals/unranked?!Nope, that's for practicing builds/strats without affecting your rank. It's fucking annoying when you're trying out something/theory-crafting and some subhuman stoner/alcoholic faggot ints 20+ deaths and you don't get to do anything with your builds/strats.>loool I'm like sooo high rn sorry guys xDAddicts and shitters don't need to be playing competitive games, even unranked. Stick to playing FOTM friendslop like Peak or Lethal Company instead of ranked PVP games, and that includes unranked.
>>736058645fpbp>>736058664cope
>>736069406
>>736069479Deal, but only because you'll get banned first.
>>736069498>KAKAROT...https://youtu.be/w50zQ67D6wY
>>736069567Seems I struck a nerve
>>736066468That's because my position also looks like a DSP tier shitter's when it's actually acknowledgement that sometimes games ask you to do things that are not in any way fun to get gud at them. Only a retard or an obsessive would continue to play those when that happens.
>>736069663Everyone is a shitter starting out.
>>736058615Anon, this is a self correcting problem. The retards who think they are winning are actually just big fucking losers. You win in a game, so what? Whens the last time someone complimented another person because they won a fucking video game? Never.The solution is to touch grass. Literally all you have to do. Touch grass, stop caring, hit the gym or go for a walk.
Being overcompetitive in anything is a sign you are brown. There is a reason why so many "sigma male grindset hussle culture" retards like Andrew Tate on social media are brown. It's because they come from cultures where everything is based on public perception, i.e., honour/face culture.White people aren't like that; we naturally are drawn to doing things we genuinely enjoy.
>>736069465Based. Friendlies begone.
>>736069760Like being cheap and using nukes?Face it, Whites are Epstein henchman and commie spies until we stand up and say otherwise.https://youtu.be/x5hipSGtGh0
It's quite simple you create a game for hyper competitive players that act like a flare in Jurassic Park, and then release the fun game a week behind itThis used to be the COD/Battlefield Dynamic before COD started fucking up majorly
>>736058615If you are too afraid to lose in any way - why do you go PvP at all?Learn, train, have your earned rank place. Or don't cry and go solo, bitch.
>>736069919I don't want to lose to some faggot who's rewarded more for spamming a single build order to perfection than he is learning the breadth of the game.
By the way, public unranked servers don't solve shit since noob raids exists. Literally overcome and accept or don't go pvp
>>736069479
If the weak don't like being stomped on by the strong, they should stop being weak or stop existing. Only the biggest, strongest and meanest bullies deserve to exist. We're in a beautiful new world of unfettered cruelty now.
>736070016>its morally bad to own people in pvp
>>736070036Morals mean nothing. Only power and cruelty matter.
>>736058615I play for fun, and trying to be good is fun. Not like im gonna sperg out but its not fun to suck so I try to avoid that
>>736070101I think we just found out new CEO
>736070101>gets owned in a video game>"Morals mean nothing. Only power and cruelty matter."
>>736070101how's hell, bibi?
>>736069479I've gotten diamond+ in ranked of like 3 FPS games while drunk and high
>>736070125>sees the conformity for what it is>says something about it>conformist retard fails to see the nuanceNtaMe personally? I don't get owned. I win but have to sacrifice using all my moves and spam A and do cheap ledge shit cause I have to. It's not fun. Its SOULLESS
>>736070101Stirner's ghost get off /v/
>>736070119>>736070139The cruelty is the point. Cruelty is the point of our entire existence.
>>736069714Which is why it's on the devs to account for that and have multiple criteria for matching people.Haven't played the game in a few months or more? Not able to play ranked games at all for several games in a row.Should track hours/matches played too. 200 hour players (or people with only a handful of matches) shouldn't be able to match with accounts that have several times more.>b-b-but muh smurf accountsGet fucked?>b-b-but muh alt I'm not smurfingThey can have a way to link your alt accounts to bypass it and obvious privacy settings to prevent freaks from stalk players between accounts.Again, that's the point of normals/unranked. Practice, not "shooting the shit while I'm under the influence lmfaoooo">>736070154And I guarantee countless of your teammates while you climbed wanted to rope at some point in your games.
>>736070278Give this goy a medalIt's like you're speaking (((our))) language!
>>736070331If I'm wrong, then why are the biggest bullies always the ones in charge?
>>736070391You're right and I'm aiding in the cause of identifying these freaks who now have an expiration date.
>the majority of competitive players hate sbmmabselutly do hate playing with each other
>>736070239Thats what you get for playing fighting games
>>736070440What you think SBMM is>10 players of equal skillWhat SBMM actually is>1 high MMR player and 4 retards vs a stack of equal skill
Just stop playing multiplayer.You are doing unpaid labour by acting as somebody else's dopamine hit. No meaningless currency and cosmetics don't count as compensation. Give me a wage for my labors or suffer from threads mogging your playercount.
>>736070472I'm done now, I've finally played enough to figure out exactly how to destroy these minmax trannies. >>736070440That's why a Falco will just sit there and spam in place like an NPC while you go off to get more water and will still be there 5 minutes later doing retard shit. Desperate to play anyone who isn't a clone like they are.
>>736070440That's because it doesn't actually do what it says it does. It's designed to fuck you at random. Or worse, the shit Activision games do where you get easier matches if you bought microtransactions recently.
its important to keep turbo casuals away from the playerbase at large. dadgamers need to be fenced off in their own space.
Competitiveness isn't the problem. I don't care if people want to take the game seriously or whether they're just flexing their natural skill. People are going to be better than each other and more motivated than one another.Esports hyperfixation, however, is the problem. This tunnel vision on the competitive SCENE is just duping thousands of Koreans that they too can go pro by tardraging over a teammate making a mistake. And the devs funneling all feedback for making the game better into just catering to wannabe esports retards. Esports cancer is the gayest shit ever for aggressive, autistic queers. No different from speedrunning, trannies included.
>>736058664they hated him because he told them the truth
>>736070558By making my own game that is. I ran the numbers on exactly what would cuck trannies and still keep Melee fun.
>>736058664If you ever played an esports-infested shitfest of a game, metagame slaves will intentionally throw the instant they don't get their way. They don't care if they win or lose at that rate, because they already decided the game is lost.
>>736058664You can not care if you win or lose but still have a shit experience if your teammate is a sweaty tryhard who is throwing a tantrum the entire time.
>>736070518>>736070559>I'm competitive but when a game puts me in high skill lobby it is bad actually
Last few years have opened my eyes to the existence of toxic casuals
Gas dadgamers.Stab esports Koreans.Lynch stoners and drunkards.Uncastrate streamer troons.
>>736070591>This tunnel vision on the competitive SCENE is just duping thousands of Koreans that they too can go pro by tardraging over a teammate making a mistake.No that's just Koreans in general. They do that shit even if they're not playing a competitive game.
overcompetitiveness is not realI play one of the sweatiest esports shooters on the market and even at the top 1% rank people still play like retards they just have better aim.
>>736058962This. If you can't enjoy getting smoked by players who are way better than you, that's your problem.>>736058645Cope. You're getting styled on by guys who are at best above average but without having to try very hard. Very competitive players stay the hell away from randos because they're looking to optimize their time input/improvement.
>>736070820It's still over DA METAGAYM and they'll mass report anyone not engaging in that religiously.
>>736070598>minmaxes your game
>>736070786>toxic casualsqrd?
>>736070868Okay Kim.
>>736070786Having a friend group where most of you are decent, average players with two toxic casuals who constantly sandbag / get drunk / refuse to improve / cope is possibly the worst feeling ever. It's not like they don't have the time, they willfully handicap themselves and waste other people's time because they want to play a game in a very specific way every single time.
>>736070596if someone curb stomps right after spawn for 15 mins you barely play the game. people wanna have fun by playing the gamebtw I lost the game
>>736070440Because it's always implemented like total trash. I decided to watch some League streams and videos recently and it's just always gotten worse and worse. People in Challenger getting matched with Masters shitters that lucked their way into their ranks with their fucked LP and WR, constantly fucking with the ladder, etc.Disregarding them putting on blinders and listening to reddit (no shit) on how to balance the game.>>736070591Again, most of the issue is listening to redditrannies on how to balance these games. Fucking cut that shit out of the equation entirely. Also, the tendency to try and equalize winrates of characters or specific builds, or just the winrates of players straight up, to as close to 50% or 50/50 as possible.League is by far one of the worst offenders of that shit and the reason why people can go on insane 20+ loss streaks and totally fuck their LP gains. It legit matches you with people who have been losing constantly if you win too much and this is why several top ranked players over the years have been found win-trading to bypass it or spamming alt accounts. The only competitive games I've seen anyone go on insane win streaks or get insane winrates over the years are 1v1 or solo FFA style shit, because you don't have the downside of being matched with other variables (teammates) that can impact your chances of victory heavily.The highest WR you see in League on top ranks is around 65% at best, and it's people on alt accounts with sub 1000 games, every single time. The moment it approaches that number and more it always goes back down in the low to mid 50%, regardless of player. It's fucking cancer and deserving of the "coin flip" moniker the playerbase has given it out of hatred.I unironically see why so many people quit these games over the years and only temporarily reinstall them whenever something meme shows up, like a new rotating "for fun" game mode they like comes around like URF in League.
Toxic is the gayest descriptor for a person ever. You call anyone toxic, you're outing yourself as being AIDS-riddled.
>>736061069>The casuals don't care that they lostLol, lmao.
>>736070904Can't be done.
>>736070872Not even that. They'll get aggressive on you in MMOs even when you're not even grouped with them. They're just fucking asshole people for no reason.
>>736070972This but unironically. The coddled faggotry has leaked out of it and infected so many other online spaces, too, including this hellhole somehow.All because losers literally couldn't turn off voice/text chat and then they went after gaming advertisers to force devs to add hella gay "anti-toxicity" shit in games, some even going full on in the speech policing and shit with automatic detections and mutes/speech bans.And, ironically, it's made people even more """""toxic""""" since everyone has to talk like an effeminate passive aggressive redditfaggot now and is just constantly-fucking-yammering to avoid getting chat banned/banned straight up.>"oof erm yikers that uhhh hehe wasn't the best play of your life eh my guy? ^_^">"ermmmm can I like get some help down here? UGH!"And I can tell you from witnessing other people who do this that they are physically raging in real life too. Desk slamming, slur slinging, etc. It's made online gaming so faggy and neutered. It's literally just high school preppy girl shittalk, that's why at the end of every game grown ass men write out entire passive aggressive paragraphs seconds before the match finishes to try and upset the other players.I'd much rather deal with people saying epithets on repeat than these effeminate spergouts. Legit as gay as people watching sports.
>>736070906Some variants of toxic casualism are>the game needs to fundamentally change to account for how little time I have to play, and if you disagree you are a sweaty elitistand>if you tell me to play by the rules of the game or pay attention you are literally harassing me. I'm entitled to a spot in your group/lobby and to then do whatever the fuck I want, because I'm more adult and therefore more important than you
>quit game>player counts drop>devs force changes to attract a new audience at the expense of competitive players>continue to ignore game>game goes end of service >competitive players are mad because their game is dead
>>736071358Literally me.I'm so glad sega FINALLY nerfed ultimate charge. The game is actually playable and fun to play online now.
>>736070953servers are better then sbmm in games with lots of ways to customize it.but when it's the same thing with a different name you get 200/2 little birds on half the servers in bf.I don't see many sbmm haters advocation for a third option
>>736070906>>736070906>>toxic casuals>qrd?Casuals are toxic by nature. They are the sole reason modern gaming has become a toxic pile of shit.
>>736071547My theory is the commie spies who are 1/3rd of the population have moved into the online sphere since people stopped going outside after COVIDMany gangstalkers started gaming and stuck with it ever since
>>736071335a sub variant of your first example is the>actually the difficulty needs to be lowered so I can do it while drunk, high, watching something on the second monitor, yapping with my "bros". i just want to chill man, but still clear the game so you just cant have the difficulty you want, because my experience is more important
>>736071624If I was a commie spy with unlimited power, I wouldn't be posting here, I would be finding a way to get you put in a padded cell for the rest of your life for posting a fucking BBC shartyjak you fucking schizo faggot.
>>736070972>>736071294this
>>736071294You can't even say "nigger" in voice chat without some streamer faggot getting triggered.
>>736058615Ranked MMR unironically
>>736058615People that "play for fun" actually ruin the experience for everybody else in multiplayers and cooperatives.It is not funny to constantly wipe in a raid boss because mr. Justwantsomefun didn't even bother reading the 3 mechanics the boss does haveGood bless the toxic gamers that gatekeep them
>>736072283It's not even that, innocuous trash talk like "you fucking suck" can easily net you at least a chat mute/ban and the pussies usually go "PLEASE EVERYONE REPORT REPORT REPORT HIM HE CALLED ME THE N-WORD" even if you just said "you're shit at the game". Can't even begin to recount how many times some fag said someone called him a slur and begged the entire lobby, even the enemy team to report.Also, this disregarding how almost all report/"moderatoin" systems are automated as well, and often see an influx of reports as damning evidence to punish someone.
>>736058615Ton of RNG.Ton of catch-up mechanics.Higher progression rewards for gameplay that's inefficient when it come to winning the match (like melee/environment kills or whatever else).
>>736073032>Ton of RNG.>Ton of catch-up mechanics.These are unironically why so many competitive games suck balls now, though?Unless it's like the 1% crit shit it always feels awful to lose to RNG instead of being outskilled, and catch up mechanics reward shitters because their opponent makes one singular mistake, while they've been making countless the whole match.
>>736058615This is false. It's casuals who follow the competitive meta without understanding why that really fuck stuff up.
>>736073193>These are unironically why so many competitive games suck balls now, though?Yes.Making your game shit for serious competitive is how you push the toxic-est competitive players away to another game.Imagine Smash if items where mandatory and spammed. The amount of showers would be quadrupled.
Everyone is a competitive player now. Streamers made it cool
>>736070753Xir OP and the cavalcade of retards replying to that post aren't mad about someone throwing a tantrum. You are the dipshit tryhards throwing a tantrum because you are not good enough to win and can't find the simple act of playing fun.
>Casuals vs gamersIf you are on /v/, you don't get to be casual.
