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Where were you when Hitler died again?
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It's not the first time.
And it won't be the last.
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Thr DLC better give us Hitler 4
In fact, each DLC should add an additional Hitler fight
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>>736066120
You know, we could have Stalin, Mao and Mussolini too
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>>736066120
he literally turns into a cat at the end of the credits song so yeah i think we're getting a kitler house boss in hell
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Shit, talk about spoiled for choice.
I'm not sure if I go Unbridled Hits+ since he's an armorless monk, or Fist of Fate+ for movement. Not exactly luckmaxing though.
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>>736066156
But none of them had a cool robot body.
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i had super meat boy 3D wishlisted but I'm not going to buy it now because tommy's a piece of shit
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>>736066225
I never trust random movement.
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>>736066240
Mao is close enoug to meow, Mussolini translates to Pussolini. Just need a cat related pun for Joseph Stalin
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>>736066056
Where is this displayed?
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>>736065996
Drumpf glaze is still in office thoughbeit unc
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>>736066225
Fist of Fate. Not even a contest
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>the peace sign face paint will make me avoid taking damage from my own shadow clones because obviously they would count as allies
>
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>>736066275
>Meow Zedong
>targets any birds on the map over your cats
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>>736066282
Pause menu, randomly.
There's a lot of random scribbles, some interesting tidbits like that, and some things somewhere in between.
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>>736066225
Unless you have some on hit effects, I think I'd go fist of fate, even with normal luck. Wolf form stacks up nicely with it too.
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>>736066339
lol
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Can I get some tips for the crater boss? I routinely struggle against it. I feel like it is so hard to both position correctly and deal damage. I beat bunker + core and that was easy as fuck compared to this.
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>>736066334
clones summoned by dark friend/steven's friend don't copy gear, so they didn't copy the facepaint
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>>736066267
>he hates brownian motion
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>>736066436
>beat it with frontal attacks
>leave 1-3 actions before end of turn so you can cycle its bad attacks away
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>>736066436
Use attacks to cycle attacks. Stay clear from the sides because it counter attacks to sides. If you have cats on the sides, dont attack if they cant tank.

If you have AI controlled allies do calculate if you should rush instead of trying to play conserve.

Stay outside the tile right in front of its mouth
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inspirational song is such a busted ability
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>>736066436
ALWAYS end the round on her one-tile instakill, and never leave cats sitting to her side.
Since her attacks cycle in a fixed order when you hit her you can reliably land 1/5/9/etc. attacks per round without ever being damaged by her second turn.
Follow this and you'll only get hit by her first turn, which isn't that bad. Avoiding that probably isn't worth it since it runs the risk of her turning 90 degrees which can fuck up your positioning with retaliatory damage a little bit. Manageable either way.

Avoid uncontrollable familiars or kill them off at the start of battle.
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>>736066481
what would the kittens look like
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>>736066662
dr cat
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>>736066625
>her
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Why would I play this when I could just gamble in a casino AND WIN MORE OFTEN

at least in the casino you never get negative jackpots where they beat your ass and steal all your money

But here you've gotta do 100 runs before you can even start playing the game properly because you've gotta ship out 250 cats so you can start breeding cats that aren't GARBAGE
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>>736066750
lorelet spotted
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>>736066769
the game isn't that hard lol
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>>736066436
It's much harder if you have uncontrollable movement or familiars, so try to avoid those. I would even consider downing any familiars yourself if you have any from events or items. The two main things you need to keep in mind are the retaliation shots and the changing attacks. For the retaliation, always try to avoid standing to its sides. Be careful with knockback or anything that turns it around. Usually it's best to go for backstabs to speed up fights, but for crater maker I think it's better to just stay in front, at least when you're starting out. That'll help keep things more predictable. The second thing is to plan ahead with the changing attacks, the cycle is always the same between the nuke, the consume, the creep wave, and the charge. Ideal scenario is the consume, because that only hits one tile. Obviously, you'll want to avoid the one tile, but that still leaves two spots for melee attackers. It's definitely worth counting up your attacks to figure out what to use, if you have weaker attacks you might want to avoid using them at all so later better attacks can be used without cycling to a bad move. If you mess up and land on something that's not consume, just try to cycle to wave or charge and move cats out of the attack, whatever you do you don't want it to use the nuke because that hits everyone and can stun.
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i heard you liked cats so i put some cats on your cats
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>>736066773
more like meat plapping sounds amirite?
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>>736066769
>at least in the casino you never get negative jackpots where they beat your ass and steal all your money
not anymore, those were the days...
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>Random event gives cat a trait where they start with 1 HP but a bunch of armor
>Basically every DoT goes through armor
this is the worst trait ever
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>>736066334
this is how it looked when it was working
it's a really consistent setup for soloing with collarless cats if you're lucky enough to roll the 180 passive, reach+ isn't even really needed, it just makes it broken
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What's your favorite boss song and why isn't it Throbbing king?
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>>736067005
i got that shit when i was doing the quest that makes all my cats poisoned at the start of the battle
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>>736066820
It is if you refuse to savescum like a fucking bitch
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>>736067116
weird that he had that specific feeling towards SMB sequels but had no problem with milking isaac for like a decade and a half (granted, the last and best expansion was mostly done by fans anyway)
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>>736067191
It's easy to argue isaac can be expanded because a lot of it's design is randomness. Meatboy on the other hand has have every level designed and the only thing a sequel can do is add some kind of gimmick like what forever did. SMB is just not compatible with expansions or sequels
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>>736067137
save scumming is intended. some enemies are just dumb with one shot kills, and the fact that the game doesn't punish you seriously until four save scums is proof it's intended.
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>>736067191
It was funding his other projects. There's a difference between making DLC for a popular game while doing 3-5 other projects and making literally ONLY ONE IP.
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Rip bozo

Also ffs killing your amoeba while it has man in the moon on top of it doesn't insta kill the fight. Fuck this game
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>>736067191
>>736067331
yeah, but then he made TEIN anyway which is for all intents and purposes just a slightly more-IWBTG-y meat boy
but to be fair my understanding of that game is that he basically made it at a low point in his career where he wasn't sure he wanted to make anything anymore
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>>736067393
how does your cat have 3 passives?
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made it to act 3 impossible and the game is finally fucking me over harder than I can fuck it again
>room with three mega-mutants
>one has mana absorb, evolving, and bouncy
>the other one has health, minus stats, and stats up on spell cast
>can't conserve my mana to cast any big spells
>can't spam small spells because they get 99 brace when you hit them
>high charisma so I take huge chunks of damage from the absorb if I don't feed him all stats up by wasting my spells
>this is the third battle of the run
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>>736067493
it looks like he has another cat skill-sharing super luck
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>>736067393
Does killing an amoeba while it has a rock on top destroy the rock? No.
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>>736063408
this is like those steaks that are slow-cooked over the span of a year in some underground pot in switzerland
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>>736067508
>he doesn't have four bullshit soul jars ready to go with extra turn head mutations that let you kill every enemy immediately
ngmi
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>soul jars
ydbtg
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>>736067626
i'm breeding cats with become entropy on them now and sending them in with mana bags in case the game decides to pull more of this bullshit on me
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>>736066769
jesse what the fuck are you talking about
I killed guillotina 3 and I've wiped once lol
I just throw bad strays into the fray as fodder and they come back as champions
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>>736067571
It SHOULD
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Hunter's Boon is silly in general, but it's VERY silly with Huddle.
>cat outspeeds the rest of the team
>Huddle
>run over to an enemy, kill them (thanks Punch Face)
>Huddle five times
>kill another enemy
>Huddle five more times
>teammates have now given each other more damage ups than they could ever need and can cross the entire map
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>>736063408
The most terrifying part of this is that it makes complete sense for basement 4 to be a flesh domain because throbbing king exists.

The implications for isaac are nightmarish.

>dr. Beanies specializes in mass cloning and extreme gene manipulation, to the point of cloning stacy over 10,000 times, and has experimented on humans before
>maggy was actually going to build the basement floors from the binding of isaac, including womb and sheol
>edmund has long stated that almost all enemies in binding of isaac are actually isaac

Jesus fuck, her basement not just being real but full of mutilated isaac clones.
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i'm too much of a bitch for this game
losing a cat on a run makes me so sad i have to take a lap around my apartment
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Doing solo Fighter run with Blood Frenzy and Turtle Form. At the caves atm. Got Wheezies vs Itchies event, declined it and the next event gave me the parasite that actually helps me
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>managed to already breed a lineage of hunters with love song and charge on spellcast mutations
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>>736068345
Simply do not lose cats.
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>>736068345
Don't worry, the further into the game you get the more mutated and deformed your cats will become, soon enough they'll barely be recognizable as "cats".
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>>736068426
the biggest asshole i'm ever gonna see that wouldn't get banned in a blue board
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Just like Dybbuk and the Creator, C-1000 is a lot harder the better you are at the game
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>>736068472
Only the first time, after you know what they do it's easy to plan against them.
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>>736068471
What about this one
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>>736067508
>this is the third battle of the run
This nigga is lying. You're supposed to fight a miniboss.
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so what is it called the edmundverse or the mcmillenverse?
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>>736068472
Nothing personal kiddo
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>>736068472
Not if you put any decent amount of forethought into them. They hard counter players who just breedmax instead of actually learning to play the game better.
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>>736068579
the steakverse
where the God banishes you to hell for chewing too fast
"Thou shall not swalloweth before you cheweth."
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i love beanies so much
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>forgot to summon the next house boss before ending the day again
I wish I could savescum in real life
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>>736068717
The game makes periodic backups if you don't mind losing whatever cat arranging you did.
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TINA YOU FAT CAT
YOU ARE SO BIG AND FAT
WHY ARE YOU SO FAT
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>>736066275
Meowseph Stalin works well enough.
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to add onto the "Issac is Ash is Steven is etc" fire
the champion version of the small steven slimes in the rift are expressly steven
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>>736068345
I do appreciate the anti-animal breeding message of the game. Nothing wrong with basic moggy.
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>>736068750
>it's time to kick Pebbles off the table
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>>736068798
as seen here
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>so many dictators have the easiest cat puns ever
what did God mean by this
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>>736067508
Your turn 1 infinite, bro?
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Should I give my Soul Jar cat Hagalaz or Caveman Eyebrows for Rocket Launcher spam?
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>>736068232
>chan hung's mind is too powerful and fortified for alice
cute
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>>736067508
you're not supposed to go hard path on impossible
>but muh levels
breed good skills first, you need to be strong right away
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>>736068925
You should become less of a faggot
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>RNGslop
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>>736068968
Hard gives you better rewards and more lv ups
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>>736068942
no issues with frankie though
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You know you fucked up your roguelike when there’s an unironically optimal meta build you can pass from one run to the next
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>>736069031
yeah I know edmund specifically talked about disliking how roguelites often boil down to just knowing the good builds and trying to build towards it every single time (usually by abusing rerolls) and how he wanted to avoid that if possible by making a lot of builds viable, but then the breeding mechanics he put in the game basically made gunning for the same build every time an inevitability
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>>736068925
do you really need six double triple double damage rocket launcher soul jars
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>>736069031
Repair isn't going to survive the balance patch, guaranteed.
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>>736068925
by its wording it seems like hagalaz would fire a second rocket, which is not ideal for a weapon that deals knockback on hit in an area. go with double damage instead.
also i dont think this cat is powerful enough to dupe many soul jars of them at once, even though building cat bots with rocket launchers would be funny. are you just duping them for security?
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>>736068925
>dies to a cherubim
We actually need more bullshit enemies.
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>>736069109
I didn't even know repair affected the "worn" status, I've been avoiding it because it didn't seem that good
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>>736069202
It's the strongest aspect of it and it's not even listed in the description. 100% getting gutted in some way, it completely destroys the game loop.
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>complete dogshit
>except for this one OP meta strat that sucks the fun out of the game
tinkerer was a mistake
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money is such bullshit i have so much money and absolutely nothing to spend it on. i clear out the furniture store every week without making a dent and i already have enough items without buying shitty ones from the shop. give me more things to spend my money on edmund you FUCK.
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i stopped playing full stop when i 107%'d my save file, and the solo runs seem too boring to go for 109%
i have the itch to do a new save file thoughever, the early-mid game is a lot of fun
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>>736069250
they should have started selling rare furniture once you beat the creator. Just make them 1000/a piece or something
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>>736068841
that's not really new lore
delirium steven is ash (and chaos is delirium so this is multi layered)
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>>736069357
one fun thing to do is the 21 run challenge (which actually takes 22 runs if you count the final quest).
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Dead game dead general
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>>736068841
ash if he IRL flesh nightmare
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Impregnating Marshmallow...
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>>736069227
I legitimately enjoy suicide bomber tinker, which is a very legit build if you use a high con cat and get some defensive items on him. tinker's not great but people get way too caught up in minmax meta-autism and miss the forest for the trees.
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>>736069769
human semen cannot impregnate animals of any kind
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>>736069821
objectively false, humans impregnate africans all the time.
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>>736069821
quitter attitude
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>have a fighter with corpse explosion
>Midboss is Morana
Get fucked
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>DLC
>Time Travel to another future
>P-mart level, A dystopian future where P-mart MegaCorp controls the entire world, surface of the Earth is one giant P-Mart Warehouse.
>Maps are huge, and full of pet workers of the company, cats, dogs, birds, rats in cute little P-Mart outfits
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Gotta be my favorite uncommon.
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>>736069949
Overpowered+ shouldn't hurt allies
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>>736070029
The DLC involves beanies time machine arriving in the present, with steven freaking out, and steven is the final boss of it.
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I can't fucking deal with the breeding house management portion of this fucking game
I have 40 cats of various stats and mutations and inbred levels and I just want to scorched earth the entire house and just start over with 4 cats
This isn't fun at all
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>>736068798
We can go deeper
>bumb-o is shown as a bum who lives in a box behind isaac's house, clearly meant to represent isaac's dad to some degree
>organ grinder is a bum who lives in a box behind isaac's old house.
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will this game be supported through decades like issac?
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>>736070080
Meant the literal Necro one, just spamming it because zero cost, fucking cat didn't know what hit her. But I agree, it's bullshit that I can't hit with massive damage without putting my own team in danger, although I guess there have to be advantages for exploding weak familiars like spiders and fleas
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>>736070150
You just gotta settle into a system that works for you. I have an orgy room for the mutations I like, a death room with -120 comfort and ungodly mutation, that generates 10+ corpses and mutants daily, and side rooms for selective preeding and exceptional cats. I just dump every level 1 cat in the death room unless it's perfect. The cream will rise.
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>>736070262
A game like this will never have the last appeal, pick up and play anytime as a game like Isaac
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FOUR OF THEM?
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I don't want to play games where Hitler-sama is a bad guy. :(
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>>736070301
Also the spell is death bloom, corpse explosion just sounds funnier
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>>736070317
yep I'm never going to be able to create something like
I guess I should just give up at this game if thats what it requires
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>>736070262
Edmund has said so, and one certainly gets the impression he considers it his baby more than he ever did Isaac.
Could be honeymoon phase but the game was a decade in development so that's a good sign he's sticking with it.
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>>736070262
Yes because this game is edmund's baby.
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>>736070390
>>736070425
He should have had an abortion then
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Is this a breeding Chad game like the crusader kings series? How deep is the eugenics mechanic? Can I rename the cats? Can I have cat harem with one stud. I am completely serious
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What happens if you bring Mysterious Dice and Experimental Treatment on the same run?
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>>736070468
It's the worst fucking aspect of the game honestly
There is literally no UI and it just becomes chaotic as fuck
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>>736070468
>Is this a breeding Chad game like the crusader kings series?
Yes
>How deep is the eugenics mechanic?
Very
>Can I rename the cats?
No
>Can I have cat harem with one stud. I am completely serious
Yes
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>>736070468
You cannot rename them (without a save editor)
You can have a cat harem but there's probably going to be a LOT of fights between the girls.
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>>736070502
>>736070519
Elaborate please
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>>736070497
It enables passives back into your rolls but good luck with that
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>>736070468
>How deep is the eugenics mechanic?
You can pass along stats, mutations, and skills. The latter two you'll need to maintain indefinitely, while stats you just need to max out and it's easy to keep that way. I would say that the eugenics is secondary to the tactical portion.
>Can I rename the cats?
No
>Can I have cat harem with one stud
Yes but cats get mad when they get cucked and will start fights
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>>736070502
it's a game for crazy cat ladies, not for map painting spreadsheet autists
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>>736070332
>Boss with big HP pool gets oil as one of it's buffs.

Holy cancer batman! Seriously TK seems to love pulling oil in his first phase and I am sorry I failed to build cats that can one tap him but must I really fucking deal with on tile movement for 36 turns?
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>>736070557
The game is designed to make you feel like a crazy cat lady with a hoarding problem. So to a large extent you'll be throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks because optimized breeding is annoying to do.
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>>736068472
>>736068612
>>736068514
My strongest run ever happened on my creator nuke run with:
>druid death metal spam
>600+ damage fighter hamster
>bouncing shot scattershot hunter
Somehow, the boss got ambush on me meaning each of the monsters I just mentioned got a FREE FUCKING TURN EACH on me (and an instant loss if the druid dies) and I still somehow scraped out a win
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>>736070557
You put cats in the same room, they will fuck. You don't have many rooms. In fact, you will only have one room to start.
You do not really get to control WHO they fuck beyond that. Cats get attached to their first partner, but still have a chance to fool around.
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>>736070367
It's not hard at all, the secret is to stop giving a fuck and let the chaos take over. You only need to autistically mijmax breeding if you're doing crazy/impossible runs.

Inbreeding and birth defects are just a drawback of reliably breeding stats and mutations, it's not worth trying to avoid it just let it happen. Most birth defects are ignorable and some come with benefits like the +10% dodge one. If you get the dogshit defects just pipe it.

Disorders are often GOOD, the negatives are there to balance the fact you have a 3rd/4th passive on a cat. I regularly use my fucked up disorder cats if I have items to pair with them. For example, Addict butcher with vurp is getting +3 all stats every time it pops a pill.
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>>736070468
The eugenics is for you to breed good starting stats for future runs and also to let the kittens inherit good skills, passives, mutations and disorders.

You have 5 rooms, you can have harem but cats get jealous and they have big chance to fight if they get cucked
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>>736070807
I've just started selecting for low aggro cats, I think it's just impossible to keep them from sleeping around especially if they have high Charisma.
Stupid chad cats.
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>>736071021
my cats look like this and do this
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broken 1 cat runs have sort of ruined the game for me
they're like 30 minutes long compared to "proper" runs taking an hour and a half and you barely have to think about anything after getting through the first area of a given act
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>>736071051
>I optimized the fun out of the game, it sucks now
no shit, everyone said it would happen
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>>736071087
Bet that nigger uses soul jars too
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>>736071087
it's not even really a breeding thing, you can start a solo run with some trash off the street and they still become uber powerful gods after the first area provided you have some decent items to start them out with
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>>736071137
I didn't mention breeding at all in my post
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>>736071021
>>736071045

>there is no stray stacy
Edmuuuund
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>>736071137
>>736071192
even if solo runs are the fastest way to play, they're suboptimal for stickynote filling because you should be trying to do those 4 classes at a time on impossible
I just view solo Normal runs as a different way to play the game that you can swap to inbetween impossible attempts if you feel burned out and vice-versa
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>>736070807
>you have 5 rooms
only have hundreds of hours of grind lmao
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>>736067116
Sorry, man, but this post is cringe as fuck. I love Mewgenics (296 hours in it at the moment) and don't give a shit about Super Meat Boy post 2010, but Super Meat Boy was a very fun game (especially for the time) that required two different people to make it and we are essentially taking Steakmund at his word and pretending the game's coder is evil just because Steakmund made a fun game we like 16 years later. And then I'm reminded of all the times Steakmund was butting heads with the Binding of Isaac developers to be able to incorporate Chris Chan into the game, or when he made a tweet just a month ago going into depth about Chris Chan's rape. There's probably a million valid reasons on why the coder would have gotten pissed at Steakmund 16 years ago and a lot to this story that we don't know shit about, dude.
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How do I git gud as Psychic? Every time I try to include one in the party, he just ends up doing fuck all. Is Entropy the only good thing about it?
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>>736071523
edmund is an autist but nicalis is satan and deserves no pity
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>>736071540
entropy and mind meld, yeah
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>>736071540
You roll the good abilities, like all the other classes ;)
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I love Lonesome Road. Waking up, making coffee and starting an Act 2 run is comfy
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>>736071550
>but nicalis is satan and deserves no pity
Source: One-sided stories from a spat between manchildren from 15 years ago and the lyrics of a game.
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>>736071512
You can do short alley runs for retired cats, loot, skills, money and food
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>C1000 is attacking in a week again and I don't really have anything prepared
So do I just use those 7 days for act 1 runs and pray I get one of the instant win abilities or items to cheese him with this time?
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>>736069031
as if that stopped people holding R until they can reroll themselves into pyromaniac ipecac brimstone
this is the whole "abritrarily kneecapping myself just to not play optimally" bullshit again
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>>736070150
lmao dude try 150+ cats, everyday i have at least 50 of them labeled as future butchers, another 30 for future rangers, and 20 for future druids
and they're all in one room, i just put everyone else on the other rooms until the comforts of the rooms aren't negative, otherwise i dump on the fight club
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>>736071656
i always try to get a really good solo cat and then just fill out the rest of my party with decent strays
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>>736071601
i would include nicalis shitting on isaac with the broken afterbirth+ dlc release in their list of vices
and also introducing text chat into isaac multiplayer which instakilled all the sovl
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>>736071718
you don't struggle until you actively make your laptop bog all the way down
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>>736071748
How do you get a good solo cat without having invested into the eugenics
Because I havent
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>>736071761
Right, ultimately we're just settling manchildren spats based on who makes the funnest vidya, which isn't a very good metric. I'll go back to discussing the vidya itself now rather than this cringe shit that I have to see every other Mewgenics thread.
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>>736071775
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I didn't beat the game...
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>>736071656
If you want to fight legit, do runs to acquire veterans who dont have big AOE spells or crowd control. Cheap spells lije nail throw to wear out the C-1000's dodge. Loot/mutations to give backstab immunity or front attack immunity. Multiple regular movement or moving skills to kite the boss or leading it to the guaranteed lava pit.

Absolute cheese is to prepare a sacrifical lamb cat with self harm abilities or items
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>>736071812
>this is good game design
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>>736071815
>just do it all over again on a new file
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>>736071836
I'm about done trying to do anything ""legit"" in this stupid game
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>>736071837
half of the fun in isaac is making your laptop lag
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>>736071656
ez mode is familiar spam, he can't copy them
or have backflips on your melee cats
or some source of fear
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>>736071870
This is why I've not bothered with hard mode and might never. I'm enjoying playing the game on proper terms rather than the autistic schizo "You can't let enemies do anything at all LMAO" shit.
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>>736071787
i usually just wait to get a me-stone lol but that's rng-dependent. i guess you could try to bring a really beefy cat with healing of some kind?
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>>736071836
Why does it feel like when anyone gives advice for this game they act like you can just select your exact items/abilities/mutations at any given point
I'm starting to believe half the people here save edit to completely skip the rng grinding portion of this game
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>>736071953
I tried the "good fundamentals" strat the first time and it didn't work out at all
I just want to cheese now honestly, sick of the game not respecting my time
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>>736071954
as insufferable as this infographic is it isn't wrong
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>>736071954
7 days to prepare a team, 7×4 cats, pretty easy to get 4 viable cats and relevant equipment
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>>736072004
That doesn't address what he's saying at all, man.
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>>736071954
Well for C-1000 it's not that crazy, you just need to run druid a couple times and it's highly likely you'll get a bunch of familiars.
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i did not ever consider that these path skills could be upgraded, interesting
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>>736072087
NANI
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>>736072087
idk why you'd want to, you're better off seeing what you got first so you're not wasting an upgrade on a random skill
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>>736072004
Cool where's the intermediate and advanced version
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I nuked god and got all the badges for normal without:
>Doing nothing runs just to grind for food, furniture and uber cats
>Save scumming and getting Steven mad at me
>Looking up anything on the wiki
>Max upgrading anything other than organ grinder and tink
So, whenever I bitch about anything in this game, remember that I do it righteously and from a place of power.
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>>736067116
>tommy could've gotten both isaac and mewgenics if he just let edmund do his thing
>all he had to do was literally fucking nothing and he would have had multiple big indie hits
>seriously he could've stopped working entirely, told edmund "here's the money, do whatever you want" and would have been rich and successful beyond his wildest dreams for no effort whatsoever
Suicide fuel. How does he cope?
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>>736072147
I hope you recorded all that
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>>736072004
>dexterity stat can affect magic damage
Isn't that incorrect? That's just the mage basic attack, isn't it?
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>>736071021
Hello Picaporte
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>>736072147
Ok, and what do you want to bitch about?
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>>736072191
the infographic is made by a youtuber that hasnt beaten the desert so take it with a grain of salt
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>>736072087
path of the void+ is so great especially on a tinkerer or high mana regen
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>>736072220
1) The Lab sucks and is overtuned, particularly Spewer.
2) There's too much grinding with the pipe stuff. To the point that when I got all the badges, I was still 200+ veteran cats away from max upgrading Frank.
3) This isn't a criticism of the game but more of a criticism of certain autismos in these threads, but: Yes, this game is absolutely RNG based. You are expected to wipe multiple times on your way to victory and pretending otherwise is extremely silly. This is just like when people claimed that you can't complain about some bullshit that happens to you in Balatro because of some giga autist streamer that has a 120 win streak or whatever. Also, these threads are more fun with people sharing bullshit that happens to them rather than the giga autismos conjuring up ways in which they could have totally not lost if they were in that situation.
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>>736070807
I feel like lied to and raped. The eugenics part of this game seems so poor and trash. You can't name them, you can't force them to breed with who you want, you can't cleanse their blood, you just toss them away and pray for the best. They should take the breeding part out of their promotional adverts. So bad.
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Man fuck the bunker
>What if everything has 10 shield, advances and counters and also gives itself extra turns
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>>736072564
It's the hardest area of Act 2 and it's not close. I honestly think it's just at the right level of being difficult but well designed, though, aside from maybe a handful of truly bullshit rooms.
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>>736070807
>You have 5 rooms
lmfao
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>>736066336
>once all birds are dead, map is swarmed with bugs
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So is God actually Guppy?
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>>736072379
I think some anons here unironically use save editor and "build" their cats that way
But I mean...the end result is the same anyway just without the breed grinding
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>>736072379
The Future is worse than The Lab imo
>LOL YOU DECIDED TO HAVE A RANGED BASED PARTY? YOU LOSE LMAO
Why would you kill team variety in your game?
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>>736072549
It wouldn't be half as bad if it had some kind of functional user interface with actual organizing and sorting systems in place
Your lineage gets too fucked up? LOL good luck better grab an actual spreadsheet and work on it outside of the game
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>>736072379
So anyone that say this game is a skill based is wrong and coping.
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>>736072845
>RANGED BASED PARTY
Sounds like your team didn't have much variety to begin with
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ngl grinding act 3 is worth the bullshit
i can either choose between farming rare furniture or potentially get great abilities on items
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>>736072874
I wouldn't say that. Skill matters. But think of it like MTG (Steakmund's favorite game with a million references on it here). The best MTG players have a 75% win rate. They too lose to mana flooding and shit like that occasionally.

The most skilled and brilliant Mewgenics players that don't cheat/save scum or do an insane amount of grinding would probably have something like 80% to 90% win rate by the time they get all the badges.
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HATE
HATE
HATE YOU
DAD I REALLY HATE YOU
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>>736072874
It isn't skill based, it's autism based
I wiped a total of two times over the course of the game, both fairly early on
Once I tism-maxxed my breeding program with broken mutations and passives the game became almost boringly easy
And anyone complaining about the breeding part of the game is a complete retard, that was the first part they came up with before even knowing what kind of gameplay the cats were going to be used for
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>>736072958
What "skill" is required for Mewgenics, per se?
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>>736072991
>you are not allowed to have criticisms about the game I've tied my identity to!!!1
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>>736072787
The Guppy we see at the end of the Isaac final ending where he has beaten the Beast and rises to heaven getting his cat back is God taking Guppy's form for Isaac. The Creator we fight in Mewgenics is sporting Guppy's face so I guess they are linked
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>>736072991
>The game is called Mewgenics, so it was totally designed for me to cheese the intended difficulty and fun out of it
I'm not even shitting on you for beating the game that way. You do you. But your advice is worthless for people that just want to play the game normally.
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>>736071021
this synced up with the song i was listening to and i sat and stared at it for 4 minutes
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>>736073050
Look at that, one of the aforementioned retards
I outright agreed with you, you fucking idiot, there is no skill involved in the way I played the game
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>>736073017
Just general tactical thinking and the flexibility to deal with all the shit happening at once and finding the interactions that favor you (Assuming they work right kek)
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>>736073087
You agree the breeding portion is dogshit design?
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>>736073110
The practical skill ceiling for a game like this is extremely low
After that its all about time investment
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>>736073114
The breeding portion is not extremely important unless you're trying to cheese the game. It's basically just a neat way of soft meta progression and adds some continuity in between the runs.
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>>736072991
>And anyone complaining about the breeding part of the game is a complete retard, that was the first part they came up with before even knowing what kind of gameplay the cats were going to be used for
Lmao.
Wouldn't this make it even more atrocious considering the state it's in?
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>>736073167
Show me the vids of someone beating the game using just strays with above average stats and no bred skills/mutations
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>>736073140
I think the skill ceiling for this is probably really high, but it's not necessary and time investment will do it, yeah. I would not be one of the best Mewgenics players ever if I tried and there was a good amount of time where I was basically just playing on auto pilot and not thinking that hard to begin with.
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>>736073247
How can the skill ceiling of "read what enemies do and remember shit" be "really high"?
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>>736073221
I don't have any such vids but I honestly have no doubt whatsoever that it's possible, at least on normal.
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>>736073247
I could literally download a save file of someone who had uber cats they bred and a bunch of imba items and breeze through the game on whatever mode
What skill does that require
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>>736073074
if normal people want normal games they can always play ball and gun
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>>736073274
Zoom zoom~
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Grinding is not necessary to beat the game. If you can't beat the game it's because you aren't playing it correctly, not because you haven't done any grinding.
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>>736073274
>How can the skill ceiling of "Know where the different pieces can move and how to capture the king" be "really high"?
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>>736071601
Uh anon
Did you forget about Cave Story or what
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>>736073354
>niggas out here really comparing mewgenics to fucking chess
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>>736073315
it requires skill to get yourself to a point where you are getting good mutations, good items and passed-down abilities
maybe indians and muslims and blacks can't do it
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>>736073315
>I could literally download a save file of someone who had uber cats they bred and a bunch of imba items and breeze through the game on whatever mode
True.
>What skill does that require
None, but you talked about skill ceiling. As in, how skilled you could be at something. If someone can be so skilled that they would beat the game with all strays on normal (Which, again, I haven't done, but I have no doubt whatsoever it's possible), then they'd be more skilled than someone that did the save importing thing.
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>>736073383
What "skills" does that require, specifically?
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>>736073379
You didn't answer my question, anon. How can chess require high skill if you just need to know that the pawn moves forward and that to win the game you need to have the King locked as you're attacking him?
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>>736073383
You just keep embarrassing yourself don't you
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>>736073398
or maybe they lucked out with events/abilities offered/items received during the run and everything just happened to line up correctly on that particular run?
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>>736073439
I'm not going to humor you over such a fucking retarded question
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>>736073447
Sure, that could happen too, I don't deny it. But again, you're talking about skill ceilings here.
Just because you can beat the game with time investment or luck doesn't mean that there's no such thing as skill at the combat.
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I beat the game while only breeding for stats, completely ignored mutations and abilities. You guys are just bad at the game.
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>>736073481
Yeah, so now you understand how retarded you sound when you post this. The analogy worked.
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>>736073486
and again I ask you what skills specifically are you referring to with regards to a game like this
reading comprehention?
memory retention?
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i'm feeling so jewish right now
>>736073443
>>736073408
>>736073074
you faggots are all complaining about things you can achieve by playing the game
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>>736073523
>comparing a game played by two people that requires wits and outsmarting a real opponent to a fucking single player rpg
also did you just fucking screenshot a quote instead of just...quoting it like a normal anon
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>>736073524
basic cognitive abilities that you seem to not have
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>>736066120
It should cap out at Fifty Hitlers.
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>>736073327
Come off it faggot. You clearly need to progress in the meta sense to consistently beat later acts and harder difficulties. Think back to you're first time in the lap or the future.
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>>736073572
So Chess is easy if you're playing against a bot? You'll find it's actually harder, mate.
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>>736073587
LOL gotem
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>>736067728
>I killed guillotina 3
Congratulations, you finished the tutorial
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>>736073601
He didn't say "consistently beat". You're the one that added that part.
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>>736073601
>harder difficulties
Let's not get into this. You beat the game if you nuke god on normal. Just like you beat DMC if you beat the game on the normal difficulty.
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>>736073601
All you need is decent stats is not something you need to grind for. Unless you consider doing any breeding at all as grinding which would be retarded because the game is named after it.
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I've beating Hitler 3 twice so far and have never seen him take a turn on his second phase, the first just give my cats too much time to scale by the time he comes in and he just fucking dies, I am sure I am not the only one.
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>>736068232
>chad hung
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>>736073612
my god you are fucking insufferably retarded
you are comparing mewgenics to this:

>Chess has a high skill ceiling due to its vast complexity, requiring immense memory, pattern recognition, and calculated decision-making.

>The game is considered a "hyper-complex skill" with an almost infinite number of possibilities, demanding constant adaptation and strategic depth that makes mastering it nearly impossible.

>Key reasons for chess's high skill ceiling include:

>Immense Complexity and Decision-Making: Chess is often treated as a complex problem-solving exercise. High-level play requires evaluating numerous possible moves and understanding deep strategic and tactical nuances, which is often described as a "hyper-complex skill".

>Pattern Recognition and Memory: Strong players, particularly grandmasters, have immense mental databases of patterns, openings, and endgame scenarios, which allow them to recognize complex scenarios.

>Need for Constant Adaptation: Unlike simpler games, chess lacks a full "automation phase" for high-level players, meaning they must constantly analyze and adapt to new situations rather than relying on rote memorization.

>Innate Talent and Training: While training and practice are essential, innate talents like spatial memory and cognitive ability significantly impact a player’s ultimate skill level.

>Extensive Theory and Study: The depth of opening theory, middlegame strategy, and endgame knowledge requires decades of study to master, leaving immense room for improvement.

>Psychological and Physical Demands: High-level chess requires intense focus, stamina, and mental toughness over long, draining games.

>Essentially, the sheer number of possible games, estimated to be higher than the number of atoms in the observable universe, means no human can ever truly master the game, resulting in an incredibly high, perhaps unachievable, skill ceiling.
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>>736073327
you actually rush your RPGs?
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>>736073714
BTFO
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>>736073714
>vast complexity
>calculated decision-making
>an almost infinite number of possibilities
>demanding constant adaptation
All of this applies to Mewgenics, dude.
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oh my fucking god can someone please help me figure how to do throbbing king without hitting exhaustion? managed to burst his balls after ten rounds but then he starts bleeding out all my cats as they can barely move
i was sure they were going to be alright to take because both have heavy defense/heal setups but he just has so much hp
could call it here but it'd be such a waste
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>>736073643
Well you need to consistently beat 3-1 in order to complete the game, like 6 or 7 times.
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>>736073793
....Why do you only have 2 cats?
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>>736073793
You just need to up your DPS. In general, his attacks are fairly pitiful. Even the AoE stuff if you don't follow his commands is only 16 damage. Obviously you should avoid it, but at the end of the day it's about smashing into him as best you can.
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>>736066180
People keep saying this but was I just fucking blind?
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>>736073793
You're underleveled dude
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>>736073793
Just get bigger numbers bro.
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>>736073825
>wipe the first time
>don't wipe afterwards because now I know what to expect
not hard
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>>736073850
Not him, but the first time I got to the meat area proper, I only had two cats. I wasn't even able to make it to the Throbbing King there.
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>>736073793
Um you just have to PLAY HARDER AND BETTER this is a skill based game after all
You just gotta outskill those numbers not adding up in your favor
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>>736071226
Stacy is dead anon
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>>736073884
it's part of the shit he says in German while the credits roll
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>>736073793
Your HP is more than sufficient to beat him. You don't need to worry about that. You just need to up the damage.
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>>736073786
There's literally more possibilities and adaptation in Mewgenics than in Chess. This is just mathematically verifiable. Shouldn't even be an argument.
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>>736073897
....am I the only one that wipes the entire run if a single cat dies and I'm out of stevens?
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>>736073793
>focus on movement abilities so you can get around slow, or anything that can immobilize him
>bring debuff removal
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>>736074015
holy KEK
You heard it here first, folks
Mewgenics has dethroned Chess
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>>736074020
If you only lose one cat, the "?" event is very likely to give you one.

Although, now that I think about it, perhaps the chances of that happening lower if you use Steven.
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>>736074051
I think he's asking how he can salvage that run he's currently on given his current status
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>>736074056
That's not what I said, buddy. You're not the sharpest tool in the shed.
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>>736074056
This but unironically
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>>736074020
I think you have a bit o the 'tism there
Keep going, your other cats may make it
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>>736074121
you are literally holding Mewgenics up to the same pedestal as fucking CHESS
thats literally what you are doing
dumb/delusional fuck
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Don't forget about tape worms :)
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>>736074181
chess is gay and bobby fischer solved it before you were born
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>>736074181
You said that chess is good and skill based because of its vast complexity, calculated decision-making, an almost infinite number of possibilities and the need for constant adaptation.

Those are all things Mewgenics has. And in the case of number of possibilities and need for adaptation, Mewgenics is literally objectively above chess.

You can keep kvetching about it all you want, but you just don't sound smart enough to get yourself out of this knot you tied yourself into.
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No but seriously. Why is this game comparing this shitpost game to chess? What's his end game?
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>>736074421
>Why is this game comparing
Bro BTFO and seething so hard he's just typing shit now.
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>>736074421
Why is this guy*
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>>736073850
three i took minus sacrifice (rest in peace...)
>>736073860
>>736073959
I see... thanks. When I try again on this run, I think I will do bullseye and broken mirror to get a few more good hits in/lay down bleed stacks respectively
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>>736074443
That's the autocorrect... Sperg-kun...
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>>736068143
>the gameplay portions of binding of isaac are actually 100% real and take place post-mewgenics with the endings just being flashbacks to pre-mewgenics isaac and maggy
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>>736065996

>Ice age is easy but has a dangerous boss
>Das future is dangerous but has an easy boss

Which way Car Woman?
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>>736074675
it's rare furniture propaganda
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>>736071738
Just get this mouth mutation on a cat and make them a Necromancer
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>>736074825
>Negromancer
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>>736073481
Concession accepted
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>>736072845
>
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>>736074542
When you add in that Steven is also an Issac variant shit gets wild.
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Check this cool build out, lads.

>Your basic attack inflicts Poison.
>Numbing Leeches: Your basic attack deals 0 damage but its status and hit effects are tripled
>Twiddle: Your basic attack deals 0 damage, but you can use it 2 additional times each turn
Bonus:
>Bruise: Your basic attack inflicts Bruise until end of turn
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I did it everyone! Focusing on Bleed Stacks and DPS really helped!
While I'm at it, I'll ask how to play Necromancer. Outside of the 6dmg seppukubomb ability I really haven't found a solid playstyle
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>>736075287
why is your druid purple
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>>736075287
Here it is in action. Fun!
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>>736075429
Good job.
Necromancer is a below mediocre class but I think it's very fun. Just about my favorite.
Everything he does is good EXCEPT for zombie kitten bullshit.
The strongest strategy with him is basically focusing on anything that is based on leeches and damage when you heal.
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isaac is hitler
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>>736068587
Some of house bosses can be either insanely hard or a joke depending on your preparation. Maybe only hitler 3 and all forms of guilotina require some good party to deal with.

Pyrophina becomes trivial when you bring burn removal spells.

Zaratana becomes a fucking joke when you bring cat with ear rock.

C-800 is easily solo'd by leechmaxxing necromancer

C-1000 literally cheesed by solo cat with scythe.
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>>736075475
ok now do it against the ice age boss
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>>736075764
You'd just need to put yourself in between bunga and a pillar and do it long range, mate.
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>>736066275
Joseph Pawlin
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uh oh, ed just confirmed he is using reddit for balance feedback
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Damn. Rift and Chaos fucking sucks ass.
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>>736076951
Wrong. Great area.
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how do you control whether the crow or the druid gets the turn first?
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>>736076608
yes, that is all wrong. he should come here for feedback instead and add the marshmallow sex DLC
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>>736077278
Unless you can manipulate the crow or the druid's speed after the battle starts I am pretty sure it's a coinflip that stays consistent unless either of their speed is changed.
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>>736076608
Who cares? He is already confirmed he is taking out some cool infinites that he thinks are to easy.

Like leather jacket and immortal. (Don't bring that combo on an act 3 run)
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Gambit!!
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>>736076951
It's fine except for that one room with two Dr. Beanies and a bunch of Stacies. I have no idea what they were thinking letting those fuckers throw three bombs a round, clearing them is fucking impossible unless you're going in with double turn mutations since the they spawn so far away and run away from you .
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>>736079128
what game is that gif even from
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Talked about ancient music videogames with a friend yesterday and he showed me this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRvfxWRi6qQ

I then told him that he wont believe me, but that this guy is in Mewgenics.
Straight up blew his mind.
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MY ASS: WET, MY TEETH ITCH
MY CYBORG FINGERS ARE STARTING TO TWITCH
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waiter please send my regard to the chef this steak is scrumptious
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>>736079681
He doesn't say that....
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>>736067191
The only reason he milked Isaac for so long is because Nicalis offered to do most of the heavy lifting.
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so this is the worst ultra rare item, yeah?
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>Newborn kitten has the same name as your IRL cat
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>>736080162
it's alright if you have items that offset that -6 like those feathers in jurassic
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>medium fries
>MEDIUM FRIES
>MEDIUM FRIIIIES
>ALIENS IN MY ASS
>>736080162
just use butcher the class
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>>736080162
It might work decent with a butcher or a tank with the switch to block attacks active but yeah knockback is always weird. Knockback is great for like 4 enemies but most of the time I would rather just kill the bastards than push them away 2 tiles.
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>>736080162
>minus speed stuff usually catered towards tanks that dump stats into con for HP
>make this scale with strength for some reason
If it scaled with HP it'd be an incredible item
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>>736080345
>Butcher equipping weapons

I'd say go for teleport, Confront, Goad, moving spells and so on >>736080162
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They're calling him born to be a tinker
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>>736080428
Found out you can't equip splinters to over write the hook...
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Bro's getting his stats fucked by the fight room but he might become the champion

>his luck is forever cooked me thinks
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>frank needs 50 cats for the next upgrade
what the fuck man
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>>736080121
this is the real reason everyone sides with pyrophina
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>>736065996
>Hitler died again
WAT NOU?
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>>736080585
more like he got fucked by those -3 defects. Throw him into your mutation room he would be fine
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>>736080298
>kitten has your IRL name
>-int birth defect and bisexual
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>>736080465
You can't get them through the fence event, but then you need the candle to get the off a again. Saw a video where someone did just that and gave the cat a sniper rifle with harpooner as a passive meaning it would kill anything that moved.
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Remember to never give the melanoid a chance.
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>>736080906
The parasite tail works too for removing it, it's just you can't say take the new splinter you have in your inventory and try to put it on your butcher with the hook to overwrite it
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>you can flip furniture
NANI
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>>736081031
No.....no it can't be.....
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>>736070201
It even has the same little lines of hair
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>progenitor god 7/7 cat turned old
>didnt make a successor in time
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>>736080960
light work, he wants to fuck me over? Two can play this game.

Wanna bitch and moan about it? Get yourself a dlc/boss fight and settle this man to man.
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Do you think shoulder check would work with ranged attacks?
It just says if facing an unit after moving then attack. Could be a cool necro/thief
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>>736080960
>get double turn multi attack status druid
>INSTANT rabies
Yep. Last straw.
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I have fully taken the jesterpill
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>>736081573
If we have Jesters, why don't we have Salesmen?
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>>736069109
>>736069202
>>736069221
Repair really isn't that good. Like oh boy, you really wanna use a Tinkerer every fucking run that's just devoted to juggling your items on to keep them from getting a bad Worn roll that adventure? Like, yeah it's fine, but it's a hell of a lot of work and annoyance.
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>>736081642
Thief is close enough.
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>>736081573
>Class souly about rolling for super luck

The only reason to play Jester, even collorless is more consistent that Jester.
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>nuclear knife
>to the fucking rift
is beanies for fucking real
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>>736081658
When all my cats inherit skills from their parents and even my most useless cat can spam a sniper rifle every turn, then yeah it’s really that good. Not to mention some items are just straight-up more powerful than your average gear like Creator's.
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>>736081658
Repair works on adjacent units so you don't have to cycle items on your tinker cat. Also if your not using repair for giving back uses on weapons, one use gets rid of worn.

is it strong? yeah but also it lets you keep the fun items going strong which is a big deal when certain runs can't exist without them. (The hook knockback trinket, the friendly poos, tinfoil hat)

If you want to build random runs out of your house stuff/ what you found last run, you can trash your stuff... no one is forcing you to hold onto stuff
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Does Bird Head (soul link on normal attack) work on Druid's song?
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How does reap and infested work on dybuk? Does it 1 shot him or does he still possess?
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>>736081805
Just kill the head in a couple turns bro.
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>>736081921
Yes, same for anything that apply on hits like burn or rot
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>>736081680
cool it with the antisemitic remarks
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>>736081816
I've been having tons of fun with multiplier (you can use a weapon twice), Copycat hat, Rune of hagalaz (your weapons hit twice), and ruffle or whatever fun stuff I find for the body slot.

It's fun to take basic weapons and see how far I can push it, spawning 5 fleas in one use was hilarious, I used the zodiac's six shooter to shoot one unit that moves for all six shots (it only did like 12 damage so it wasn't exactly a game changer)
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>>736081921

Never got that one but the song picks up poison, bleed, burn, bruse and even knock back, so I assume yes.
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>>736071540
>breed a bunch of cats with a "you can remove cursed items" mutation
>get a cursed sigil that gives you +3 magic damage and debuff immunity
>equip a callus as well so your corpse doesn't explode
>never have to get new items because those 2 are enough to carry you and cursed items don't become worn
gg ez
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>>736071540
as a former league of legends player, psychic is very much a crowd control support. you aren't gonna do damage with it unless you breed a harpooner with sniper rifle
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>>736082078
Same here. It's nice to run some glass builds that don't have to worry about exploding turn 0 turn 1 when I don' t nuke everything in one action.

Cooties has been tons of fun just based off the rot and infection (butcher is fun but also anyone who can use basic attacks multiple times)

Naegleria Fowleri got fixed in the beta branch (the brace now actually works)
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>>736081921
Yup, that shit hard carried me once. Although I also had the druid passive that prevents applying debuffs to allies.
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>>736082078
>You fail to kill the Creator the turn he falls below his HP threshold for phase 3.
>Throws his shield at that Cat

See you space cowboy....
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>>736074056
chess isn't that fun and despite being hundreds of years old I haven't played it for more than 50 hours
mewgenics is a month old and I've played it for 250 hours, and it has a good soundtrack
chess doesn't even have a soundtrack
mewgenics > chess
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It's fucking windy out in fall, should I torture myself by going desert?
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>>736081151
Use save editor to make a worthy succesor.
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>>736081921
more people use druid as a mass debuffer than an actual white support
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What was your reaction when the cats started meowing the biome theme for the first time?
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>>736082451
I save them if they're funny
https://streamable.com/m24ep5?src=player-page-share
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>>736082374
He is good at both, I want versatile vocalist for it though, those damages ups can be scary on the wrong mob.
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>>736082451
I thought my game glitched and the cat meowing got stuck on a loop

I like that the game is full of small things like that, it adds soul
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>>736077640
Two-piece infinite combos are way too cheesy and I actually agree with Ed on nerfing them.
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>>736082372
God, Marshmallow is pure sex. Im gonna have to beat my throbbing king again
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>>736082708
Half the monk's kit needs a rework then since you can boost yourself to infinity if you have a sleep solution, or give yourself controllable blood frenzy with a zero cost skill. And that's just 2 skills
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>>736081728
>The only reason to play Jester
What about having fun?
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I am surprised there isn't a cat that does normal meows, or at least as close as possible to normal only to yell "fuck" when downed.
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>>736071523
Chris-chan did nothing wrong.
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>>736066251
Whats this meatboy drama about?
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>>736082859

The other classes are more fun
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>>736067116
HE’D TAKE THE RIGHTS FROM EDMUND UNIMPEDED
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>>736082859
You don't play Mewgenics for fun. You play it to win.
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Have you apologized to him yet anons?
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>>736083043
What's the prize for winning the game
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I want to have sex with a cat
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>>736082930
The specifics aren’t really clear but Edmund and Tommy aren’t on speaking terms anymore. Tommy now controls the rights to Super Meat Boy by himself, while Edmund owns Mewgenics (which was originally supposed to be a Team Meat game).
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>>736083146
[Spoiler]fun

In theory.
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>>736083146
You finally get to swallow the steak.
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>>736082930
He used the throbbing king as a chance to vent about his relationship with Tommy Refenes
>>736067116
>edmund a few years into game design
>meatboy is winning awards
>edmund doesn't know how to run a business
>tommy picks him up and tells him he'll take care of the business side, and they create team meat
>edmund considers tommy his best friend
>meatboy makes a lot of money, but edmund wants to explore other projects
>tommy is an asshole and thinks that he already has his cash cow, fires edmund from team meat and gets other game developers who will just make more meat boy games
>publicly gloat about how he got all the best kids in the breakup and doesn't need steakmund
>the new meatboy games all suck ass
>binding of isaac becomes bigger than meatboy ever was
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>>736067116
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uIQHePi7k8
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STARS....
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>>736083129
The more personal messages are definitely intentional, he’s on record of how his own religious upbringing inspired Isaac, but I’m pretty sure in Edmund’s mind politics just aren’t real.
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If I'm being honest the original incarnation of Mewgenics did not look promising at all, and I kinda don't blame Tommy for not having any faith in it.
In fact I'm pretty sure Edmund and Tyler were brainstorming a bunch different design ideas for the combat for a long while before finally settling on the tactics grid.
I do have to appreciate Edmund's dedication to hyping up the game back then with all the comics and other little things he made for it.
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>>736080960
>we didn't beat the game
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>>736082930
Once upon a time there was a boy, born with a silver spoon for a toy
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>>736083269
Who needs Steakmund when you have the steak?
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>>736082372
>green anon

Did I enter /mlp/?
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>>736083523
He grew up nasty and he grew up mean he'd steal a Edmund's ips just to hear him scream
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People theorize how Mewgenics will conect more into Isaac are fools.

Isaac is a spin-off of Mewgenics, not the other way around. Man in the Moon was the telepreacher that twisted everything.
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>>736083845
are cat kinda like pony?
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>party detonator quest
>all 3 cats are fucking cracked
>boneyard
>it dawns on me right before dybukk that all 3 weren't making it back home no matter what I did

The key to happiness is leaarning to let go
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>>736084043
I found out Dybukk can possess zombie cat familiars and it makes his fight risk-free.
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>>736083863
Learned to swindle what he needed, he took the steak from Edmund unimpeded
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>>736084108
I didn't roll any familiars and no mini-me or apprentice to cheese him with. My high luck hunter shredded him with sentry, so I couldn't do much
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>>736084108
Look, the only good use for zombie kitties
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>>736082451
my top 2 favorite thing about the game
which is why i'm waiting eagerly for a custom song mod
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>Somehow, Hitler returned...
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hey fuck you pal
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>>736083129
>the most surface level reading of the game
Stop huffing your own farts and internalize that you're a midwit.
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>>736083129
>leftist faggotry
media literacy and its consequences
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You WILL buy Meat Boy 3D. BOW DOWN.
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>>736084996
He gets away with murder
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>>736085203
GETS AWAY WITH MURDER
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>>736085203
(Gets away with murder....)
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>>736075429
>>736075475
Cool
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>>736079776
kek
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>>736080662
Anon. Old pal. Dearest friend, closest comrade. It's only gonna get worse. The catpipe grind is insane.
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>>736082451
Honestly, the particular first time it happened was really annoying and I wanted him to shut the fuck up cause I was trying to think. He wouldn't stop. It went for like 9 seconds straight.
But for the most part, I like it.
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>>736085418
Man I am hundreds of hours deep and I still haven't given the mystery man 100 cats.

And before you say it, I know he will want 150 after I'm done. At least Butch is half way reasonable and gives good upgrades.
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>>736083269
A lot of speculative headcanon, but the funniest part is this:
>edmund doesn't know how to run a business
>tommy picks him up and tells him he'll take care of the business side, and they create team meat
Oh yeah? Is that why Steakmund needed Tyler Glaiel this time around? So he'd run his business? No, retard. Edmund can't code these games. Super Meat Boy was a team effort and Tommy was obviously a significant part of it just like Tyler is a significant part of Mewgenics this time around. We don't know shit about what happened there. See: >>736071523
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>>736085608
shut up tommy
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>>736085667
Shut up about Tommy. No one gives a fuck. You sound like a gossiping bitch and you have no clue what happened between them. This isn't the Super Meat Boy thread.
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>>736085418
that's what i thought too until i remembered it took me half a year to get all marks on tainted lost
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If I got a quest to go to say, The Core, can I unequip the quest items afterwards and freely do The Rift?
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>>736085759
Unfortunately not. And obviously if you die, you lose, even though you already completed the quest.
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>>736085759
Nope, get fucked nigger. Hope you like holding on to that knife during a part 4 boss
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>>736085759
you cant take them off dumdum
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first time getting the guillotina boss, the game forcing you to keep some cats around to progress is neat, they're still disposable but at least there's a reason to keep them around a bit more, even if they super die during the boss they already fulfilled their purpose, cool gaem
still I wish there were more reasons to keep some cats, if cats aren't breeding, doing runs or defending then they're a waste of space
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>>736085972
if you put a bunch of mutation in a room you can stuff all your non-useful cats in there to farm new mutations as well as injured cats to pawn for furniture
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>>736070332
how can people stand to have the "low number of status effects shown" option enabled?
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>>736085789
>>736085856
>>736085880
that's really dumb
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>>736085972
I'd really like the DLC to give shit for home cats to do and add personality to them. Events where they interact with each other besides fighting and fucking and shit. I'm already building a cozy home for them. The heroes that beat the super home bosses and beat the final boss should get to live like kings before they die of old age.
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>>736071540
entropy build
ping build
vaccuum and suggestion
vaccuum and the passive that spawns glass from gravity spells
vaccuum and the passive that deals damage for every tile you move units through
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>>736085735
>>736085608
We get it tommy, we're all expecting to kiss the ring.
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>>736085856
The knife quest was ridiculously easy for me.

>Slap it on a Tinkerer with an ability to charge weapon with electricity and give it extra damage
>He's on knife duty and able to actually deal a decent amount of damage
>And if I somehow can't do that my Butcher and Druid have familiar summons to give easy kills

I'd go as far as to say the quest might've been the easiest one I ever did. A freebie in fact.
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People say you can't take quest items off but I've been able to swap them on cats without issue and still got paid for it.
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>>736086381
oh yeah i forgot you can swap them between cats
i don't know if all of them let you though e,g, angry face
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>>736086325
I agree it's a easy quest, It's just I fucked up once redoing it not expecting to fight Soahc with it on after taking it to the moon.
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>>736086381
Some of them are cursed, like the me stone and angry mask. The rest you can swap around but they must be on a cat until you get home or die.
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>>736086850
Well....one of them is surely going to get fists of furry and high luck....surely
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>>736086850
do it, don't be a pussy
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>>736086850
ugh too many actions per turn, pass
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>>736086103
Imagine if you could make specific rooms give effects, like a cat gym, a cat lab etc
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>>736086850
is the little checkmark a thing you get for doing solo runs or single-class run
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>>736066334
you didn't chew slow enough...
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>>736086850
nta but heh i finished the rift with 4 monks
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>>736079776
>What Timmy gon do
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>>736087050
Yes but it's overwritten by solo runs instead of having its own mark for some reason
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>>736087391
solos are considered single-class
i don't like the idea of overwriting it either but soloing is harder anyway
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>>736087015
personally i wish there were toys that had a small chance of appearing alongside the furniture in the furniture box
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>>736073538
that's tonetta btw
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>>736084441
act 3 raid bosses felt kind of disjointed compared to the previous ones and I wasn't a fan of the terminator cats that much, but any moment where the music melds with the gameplay like the end of the hitler 3 fight is peak kino cinema
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>>736080960
how do you change event outcomes anyway?
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>>736087724

You are right, the 800 is easy and Hitler 3 never gets his phase 2 because you spend the first phase scaling.

The 1000 is tricky, until you realize how his gimmick works and make a team to fuck that liquid metal bussy
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I got 80 cats but piping them takes so long...
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>>736087786
>leave the folder where your savefile / folder of the savefile is located
>copy it
>do event
>if fail / non critical success, close the game
>delete save
>copy the copy
>rename the new copy back to original name
>open game
>give the cats appropriate items if possible
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>>736087786
>>736088083
that's a lot of work compared to just dealing with it
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>>736088158
clicking a few things is too much work for you?
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>>736074825
>>736074850
how does edmund keep getting away with using these sambo caricature lips in his games
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>>736088083
the only reason I don't savescum is because this shitty ass game takes forever to load and if I click anywhere it fucking crashes
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I'm angry, angry about the bunker
>let's just zero on your fucking thief at the start of each round before you can even move so you can't use piercing damage against every fucking bot and armored unit
>The Steven event showed up TWICE
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>>736088501
how slow was your thief if he was getting outsped in the bunker?
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>>736086850
>free win

I'm shocked more people don't talk about how busted monk is. You'd have to TRY to make a monk worthless
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>>736088559
He got his speed fucked up after being surrounded by securybots, that one was my fault I went for a damage spell instead of getting out of the way
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>>736088245
innocent fish lips used to be perfectly okay in media until 2016
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>>736088245
What's wrong with drawing characters with big lips?
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>bring the air horn to the infinite

Well time to drop down to normal and gimp my cats.
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When repair removes the worn status on equipment it includes armor slots and not just weapon/trinket right ?
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>got the hot potatoes weapon to moon man
>forgot to use it on him, just killed him normall
>mfw
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Did Edmund ever even make a black african american character?
And don't try to be a smartass and say Steven.
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>>736088792
I wouldn't even attempt it desu, if you get champion gatekeepers the run just ends
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>>736088792
Man fuck that shit I am scared of it even taking it to the Throbbing Domain
I think I have been ambushed like 3 times total and every fucking time was a disaster
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>>736088935

Well of course Steven isn't a nigger, he is far too articulate
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>>736088935
Gish
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jesus christ The End might be the worse song the cats have attempted to mimic so far.
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>monk with blood frenzy
this is fucking awful
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what if i kill all my other ally cats during the very last fight of an act, and kill the boss solo from there
does it count for solo marks?
also how the hell do i use cat rib? it feels confusing to have it when you get it
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>>736088935
McMillen's games are for White people and will only contain White people.
And just like a good White advocate he is a mixed Hispanic/Irish mutt.
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>>736089184
>Second event on the hard path in a blessed run in The End
>Get blood frenzy on my fighter/monk/main man
>Write off sending more cats to Butch and go home after killing Mother

I fucking hate this event so much, could you at least hit my buffer or healer?
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>>736089293
Kill a cat, destroy the corpse, recieve a kitten of that cat
Use case is to use it on the last fight, a kitten cannot be a veteran so you can take it out for another adventure, it will also proc from stuff that doubles/triples trinkets
I would not fucking trust a Irradiated Object to work for Catrib considering it doesn't give rerolls for the reroll one
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>>736089374
Bloodfrenzy checks will always hit the cat that does the most damage
Just like how Imposter Syndrome will only hit a healer
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>>736089637
I had a run with a varied team and my Druid got Blood Frenzied despite having low Strength and no attacking moves
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>>736089374
Truly nothing quite like a cat becoming an instant deadweight or near threat out of nowhere with no way to avoid it simply because RNG says so
A Steakmund certified classic
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>>736088817
Same. In my defense I used a water feeder so I didn't even think about having a burning rock that needs tossing around until I killed Moon Man. I just assumed I'd "feed it to him" after in a scripted event like the Guillotina quest items.
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>>736089762
I think it accounts for familiar damage
Most cases it feels like very targeted afflictions/cursed items that would have been manageable on the other cats, but a fucking nightmare on the one it hit
This is why I don't fuck with going less then 8 luck
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>>736088501
skill issue, the post
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>>736088801
all of them yes
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>>736089935
>In my defense I used a water feeder
me too, and I'll do it again, I had 2 one remains
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>>736066334
I learned this much earlier when I realized my shadow clones never copied by buffs, so they always do fuck all damage.
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>>736090503
What? They are both Red? I don't remember no dead girlfriend humming sweet delicious down there.
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>>736090503
I liked that creepy pasta, even if the ending was meh on some points, I should read it again. I wonder how the creator is doing with the ongoing sequel.
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Hey do you guys think Maggie goes with the cats on adventures? Some events seem like it's only the cats but others and the ending make me think Maggie is going with them, barking orders like a demented pokemon trainer.
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>>736090639
Final levels that are short/straightfoward a fleshy theme.
Both even share the same gimmick of having only 1 tile of each level type. (Zenith has 2 for each type, but it's close enough)
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Just went to the Infinite for the first time. Took me this long to notice using the time machine gives a cat a mutation.

Meanwhile I failed to pass down the mutation that gives +1 extra turn at the start that I got from the first time licking the orb at the end of The End.
Should I be licking it every time? I skipped it this time cause it was my first go into the ∞ and I didn't want a cancer cat.
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>>736091076
You might as well if you don't plan to kill God otherwise only try it with high luck or a cat that can afford to lose a few points given there are two more fights before the final boss. 6 stat downs for two mutations, that's the trade
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>>736090008
Yeah, the crow was the murderer thanks to multiple Encouragement from Druid to the Crow



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