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Denuvo is about to kill hypervisor method!
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>>736082616
They should force you to run an AI tha constantly checks if you are bypassing
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>>736082696
I agree.
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*farts*
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Modern video games aren't worth my time.
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>>736082616
>Irdeto
>warning the new cracks are a security concern
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TWO MORE WEEKS
PLEASE DON'T SUE US FOR SELLING YOU AN EASILY DEFEATED SCAM DRM
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>>736082696
Yeah, they should simply record and analyze all your activity on your PC while denuvo is installed on it, just in case.
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Based. I hope the new Denuvo turns piracy impossible that way, we can usher the last part of you will own nothing.
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>>736082696
I have one spare kidney
Who needs two anyway?
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>>736082616
>Ernesto Van der SAAAAAARRRRR
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>>736082616
Is there any game that uses denuvo that is worth my time? Not a pirate btw. What exactly does denuvo protect? Lost sales?
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>>736082616
It’s so over for them countermeasure my ass. Probably will be a nothingburger for a year or two until they finally beg Microsoft to help them.
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>>736084336
Crimson desert recently. They even updated the crack for version 1.01.02
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>countermeasure to hypervisor
Are they going beyond plus ultravisor?
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i just want to buy the games i like without shit that makes it worse
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>>736082616
So now instead of denuvo making you lose 10% fps it'll make you lose 20%!
Wow! So great for the consumers!
Good thing I don't buy any square, crapcom, sega garbage.
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>>736082616
kek based
denuvo lost
pirateGODS won
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>>736083371
Can't wait for mandatory digital ID verification everytime you want to launch a game.
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>>736082616
Still not boughteding
Still not hypervirusing
Still not executing the malware DRM
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>>736082616
>inb4 they release kernel level anti-drm
waow is it 2005?
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>>736082616
It doesn't matter to me. I support and enjoy games while denuvoSHILLS and piratePOORS fight all day.
Simple as. :)
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>>736084973
Looks like open-world slog that was put into a blender with other modern cancer like tears of the kingdom and rdr2, hard pass
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>>736084336
there's finally total denuvo death and there might be singular amount of games one would actually want to play. the only game i actually want to try is marvel midnight suns and maybe WRC. why not's are CIV 7, SW outlaws and stellar blade, but neither of those three are something to care about. i'm actually a bit shocked how little worthwhile stuff there is.
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>>736082616
great now pragmata is going to stay forever uncracked
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>>736086130
Total Pedophile Death.
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>>736086690
ok pedo
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>>736082616
How would they theoretically do that? Make denuvo a kernel driver? yay
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>>736084336
Not really. I wouldn't call any of the denuvo protected games great. I personally liked Code Vein, Atomic Heart and MH Rise but that's just my preference.
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>>736084336
A pro DRM group did a sales study and they concluded the average sales decay for the vast majority of titles is 12 weeks. Basically the results proved that there is no longer value to the company to retain DRM after 12 weeks.

By their own stats In first 12 weeks weeks the existence of DRM does actually improve sales performance by preventing piracy. After 12 weeks it no longer works at preserving sales.
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>>736082616
How good the hypervisor cracks are? I still haven't tried yet.
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I don't download hypervisor cracks but I'm glad it's making Denuvo execs have a melty
Game Companies are probably pissed pirateGODS are enjoying the latest AAA sloppa unbothered kek
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>>736087092
You're right, true pedos aren't interested in that ugly gremlin.
We prefer cute lolis like Koishi.
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>>736087301
>A pro DRM group did a sales study
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>>736087301
>A pro DRM group did a sales study and said DRM good
Absolutely no conflict of interest there, nope.
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>>736087523
based
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>>736087527
foreheadcumcovering
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>running high-privilege, untrusted code and leaving your system in a degraded state
ISHYGDDT

People found a messy workaround that shifts risk to the user instead of breaking the DRM cleanly
Denuvo was never "cracked" and they obviously will patch this out in their next iteration
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>>736084336
The new Shinobi game is fun
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>>736087865
The arguement is that your gaming machine shouldn't have anything important on it anyways. It should be purely for gaming and your business and personal computers house the important stuff.

Essentially don't buy games but spend $4000 more on computers.
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>>736087865
>>736087993
>t. easy anticheat user
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Zero good games have Denuvo.
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>>736082616
so does the "bypass hypervisor on PC2 and transfer game to PC1" method work or not
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>>736087619
Conflict of interest aside, I mention it because to think their results are probably credible. It is interesting to me to note that these group coax companies into paying for a service for several years by their own admission no longer works after 3 months.
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>>736088229
Digimon SMT edition is a good game. But that's like the single one of note.
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>>736082616
they forgot the most important step though
make a denuvo game that I actually want to play
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>>736087527
>>736087619
The point is that even the pro-DRM group, the group that might have every reason to stretch its qualities to more than they are, found it doesn't make a different to sales after 12 weeks.
Most games that use Denuvo keep it for far longer than 12 weeks. Even the pro-DRM study finds that most games keep Denuvo for far longer than they need to.
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>>736088229
Daemonhunters
SMTV Vengeance
Shinobi
Nigger of Persia
Assorted new Yakuza games
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>>736082616
>Pirates were so desperate to play bottom of the barrel garbage games that they ruin gaming for everyone else
It's kind of poetic, actually.
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Will denovo be dead if hypervisor bypass continues? Why would anyone pay them? I don't really care as denovo games are usually shit. The recent cracks/bypasses made me realize how much I didn't care for any of them. But if they go out of business, that would be funny.
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>>736088985
They will just pay crackers off or actually have them assassinated/framed if it becomes a threat to their business
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>>736082616
It can't be fixed unless they make us install denuvo in the HV as well. The only solution is stop supporting hardware token activation.
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>>736082616
I think its pretty stupid to think this hack would come out and Denuvo wouldn't immediately get on trying to fix it for their next release
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>>736084336
>What exactly does denuvo protect? Lost sales?
The imaginary lost sales the shareholder thinks will happen when the teenager from venezuela with a yearly income of $100 dollars (he's from a rich family) won't be able to pirate the game and will then definitely buy it for $70+tip
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>>736089228
its impossible to prevent it, they're just trying to sound confident while they're selling off their company shares before their value plummets
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>>736087993
>It should be purely for gaming and your business and personal computers house the important stuff.
Maybe this is even worse though. May make you less aware of the risk due to a false sense of security. Because you have to download the games. So you either have your gaming PC connected to your home network or you have to use a usb to get the games on there. Both of which exposes your other devices. I wonder if it would be safe if you made sure that your gaming pc is never connected to the network while any other device in your home is or maybe if you have a second internet connection?
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>>736089590
Just don't install anything obviously suspicious while your security is down. Anti virus and online guard shits will still be up anyway. Your PC just won't stop you from installing anything that isn't corpo approved anymore if you choose to ignore the warnings.
This isn't some movie hacker shit where installing the bypass gives a guy in with a sunglass and raincoat access to your computer just by speed typing.
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>>736089571
They can sprinkle multiple checks during the game execution:
-Are there crack related files or registry entries around?
-Is the game running in a virtualized environment?
-Is every item in the laundry list of security features required by the hypervisor crack disabled?
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>>736089228
They would need acesss to such a basic layer that I’m doubting Microsoft is willing to give it to them unless they form a partnership. And even then what? gonna be interesting what they’ll come up with but it sounds like something they would write to save face.
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>>736090748
They already tried sprinkling multiple checks with the megaman release which some anons thought was working but it didn’t work of course.
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>>736090516
>This isn't some movie hacker shit where installing the bypass gives a guy in with a sunglass and raincoat access to your computer just by speed typing.
Indeed, in real life those are zero-click attacks and require no user intervention :P
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Y'know, the real loss that Denuvo suffered was the aura of invincibility.
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>>736089228
Never underestimate third worlders and their eternal inferiority complex towards the first world. They HAVE to brag about it everywhere to "own the paypigs" instead of just keeping their heads down and playing games. Cant wait to see something new from denuvo to make all the poorfags around here seethe (again) ;)
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>>736082616
>torrentfreak
of all sources you had to pick an MPAA-controlled blog
you're a huge faggot OP
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>>736093171
>all this seething over thirdies getting games for free
I don't get it. why do you even care about them to the point of letting them live in your head rent-free? I thought you only cared about (check script) affluent based first-worlder cis-white heterosexual males?
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>guy on the internet decided to have his user name and pp as his waifu
>many such cases and an internet tradition at this point
>zoomers decided that ackthually this means they're trans
I'm fucking sick of tourists
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>>736088949
So anon was right denuvo has 0 good games.
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>>736090516
>Just don't install anything suspicious while in Hypervisor, like pirated games
Reminder that FitGirl changed xer/xem's mind within a week of saying it was dogshit by the way
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I beat RE9, and it was worse than 7, 8, and 4 Remake. I beat Stellar Blade and it was just two boring giant open world desert zones. I beat Doom Dark Ages and it was very repetitive monster arenas and worse than Eternal in every way. Monster Hunter Stories 3 was open world grindslop 1 hour in.

It's not even worth disabling your PC security to play this shit, that's the biggest defense that Denuvo has against HV.
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>>736090969
My favorite is calling random people at the place and telling them I'm IT and need their username and password to check something. Zero hacks needed, just a phone call and I can get in.
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Black Myth, RE9 and Stellar Blade are the only 3 games that has Denuvo I want to play. But I'm not desperate enough to install this Hypervisor shit
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retard here, why cant pirates use this hypervisor thingy to recompile the game without denuvo?
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>>736095689
latest digimon is cool too. you should give it a try. plenty of waifus too
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>>736082616
doubt it
cat & mouse game is gonna be entertaining tho
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daily reminder about what denuvo thinks of paying customers
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>>736090748
But literally all of that you can just tell it whatever you want
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>>736087865
>leaving your system in a degraded state
Implying ((Microslop)) is a trusted corpo and don't sell or copy your data whatever they want
>Denuvo was never "cracked"
that's literally why it will be a pain in the ass for them to 'patch it', how do you fix something that is not damaged or broken to begin with.
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>>736096291
Sure, it's a cat & mouse game, as always has been.
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>>736082616
How can this be a fundamental shift if the games aren't worth pirating anyway
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>>736086130
if you start saving now you can buy it at release, big boy
if not, just wait a few months for a discount
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>>736096730
I can understand illiterate people scared out of their mind about not having training wheels. But this is the worse cope of it all. kek.
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>>736082616
>promise countermeasure

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

HAHAHAahahahaahahhhahhahahahahahahahah

oh no no no hahahaha

oh no nono no noahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahaHAHAAHAHAHAHA AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA

LMFAO

DENOVU

GOT FUCKING OWNED

O W N E D

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E

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BLASTED

BLOWN

THE

FUCK

OUT THE DIGITAL REALM

LITERALLY
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Doesn't this thing currently use some exploited dll file from afterburner to work? I assume they can patch it by going after this workaround, but that would probably only mean requiring the user to disable secure boot for the HV crack again
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>>736082616
more like cope measures
imagine paying those trannies at Irdeto money
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>>736090969
Social vector is how any serious hack is done anyway, human element is always the weakest link in any system.
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>>736085012
they'll add more checks so the EXE gets even more bloated, the performance even worse
but they won't counter fuck all
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>>736087104
>How would they theoretically do that?
they exploit the security vulnerability and go "see I told you"
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I don't care. My job is to mail all publishers and companies that they should stop using denuvo and post proof that their shitty game are all cracked.

Claming some shit about early sales make you look a snake oil salesman. You're are pathetic. Your company shouldn't exist.
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day 0 hv cracks on the menu

simple as
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does this mean publishers will stop putting denuvo in their games?
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>>736098652
yes
it means nobody will use denuvo why even when you can slap your own DRM and be done with it
they're fucking useless and make the game worse
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>>736098652
>should I give 150k to some faggot at Irdeto or should I rather not do that hmmmm
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>>736085271
Nah mate, you'll need to submit a blood sample to start your pc.
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RE9 got day 0 cracked and Capcom is retarded. MH Wilds a game released in 2015 still has this utter dogshit DRM and the is hv bypassed too.

What the fuck are they paying for again I don't get it.
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>>736097530
>they'll add more checks so the EXE gets even more bloated, the performance even worse
great, so even less reason to buy nugames
remember, fewer than 15% of players play new games
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>>736098652
Publishers will still use denuvo because people think hypervizor is scary. There are enough pirates who won't use the cracks for them to justify still putting denuvo on games.
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>>736082616
The Damage already been done. Even if its patched, all games before this can be cracked
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>>736099443
fake news
hv cracks got pirated over 100k times prolly more by now and nothing scary about that
FitGirl even made it piss easy now to execute making it beyond retard proof
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>>736095960
I brought Time Strangers, I only bu games if I think the devs deserve my money
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>>736099941
no one who slaps denuvo on a game deserves money thougheverbeit
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>>736082616
>popular repacker Fitgirl flagged security concerns as well, but embraced the new cracks as the FSB check cleared
FTFY
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>>736093171
fuck u timmy
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>>736088985
>Why would anyone pay them?
They don't actually have to pay if a Denuvo protected game gets cracked or bypassed within a certain time frame after the release.
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Hyperpoors are so funny
Why are you still a neet?
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>>736089160
They can go the way of Windows 11 requiring TPM 2.0 in processors. That would be checkmate.
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>>736084336
>Is there any game that uses denuvo that is worth my time?
Persona 5. I found Stellar Blade pretty decent so that, too. Maybe Crimson Desert if you want a single player MMO but that's a pretty shitty genre tbdesu.
>What exactly does denuvo protect? Lost sales?
It gives the publisher peace of mind that their vidya won't be pirated. In practice that's all it does. A bunch of jap devs only started doing PC ports after Denuvo was a thing because old japs have this belief that 99% of PC players would just pirate everything. There was an EU study about how piracy doesn't affect game sales but big vidya didn't like that result so it got shoah'd(big surprise).
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>>736087434
>I don't download hypervisor cracks but I'm glad it's making Denuvo execs have a melty
Based. That's the right mindset.
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>>736082616
Lmfao, and when it takes performance even harder and it still isnt enough, what then?
You arent going to win this shit. Focus on making good games instead of ruining the experience for the people that actually pay for it in a vain hope that a pirate will buy the slop.

I cant stress this enough. There are effectively infinite games right now. All vidya could stop being produced eight now and you still couldnt get through it all in a life time. Even if you block a pirate, hes not going to buy your shit because he has a gorillian other games he can play RIGHT NOW instead.
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>>736104394
>about how piracy doesn't affect game sales but big vidya didn't like that result so it got shoah'd(big surprise).
Vidya is like Hollywood. What matters most is always initial sales. Everything afterward barely matters unless its overwhelming. It's how you get games that never have sequels even if it did well over its lifetime, but because the early launch window sales were poor the execs still see it as a risk
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>>736103952
the main question should be why do you keep sucking DRM cocks and paying for it? You must be special tier of retarded.
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>>736104750
Sounds like the execs and shareholders should stop being retarded then, huh?
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>>736104750
Awesome, so then live service slop and infinite dlc pay to win shit will die soon, right? How about gacha? Since continuous lifetime sales and such doesnt matter.
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>>736104824
fat chance
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>>736104890
Gacha and freemium currently is winning over traditionally structured games.
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>>736082616
lol, browns in suicide watch
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>>736104903
Literally whats stopping a company from being like "youree fucking retarded, here is the data supporting that youre retarded, kindly shut the fuck up about things you know nothing about"? Like you lose a few investors from hurt feefees, who fucking cares. You make a good game, it sells, and then anyone on board now knows to shut the fuck up and let people that actually know what they are doing continue to lead.
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>>736103952
got plenty of monies but none that Denuvo gets
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in 2 years quantum ai can crack denuvo
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>>736104987
Yes, thats what Im getting at. That the idea of "DURRRR THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS IS INITIAL SALES HURRRRR" is fucking retarded and outdated, and the data shows this. Yes, there is context and the genre matters, but literally just slap the retarded investor with raw data and tell them to shut their fucking mouth. Its that easy.
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>>736105041
Money. These are the people who pay their way in and go, "no, fuck you, I own this % of the entire company, my opinion and votes beat yours!"
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>>736105143
It's only outdated in the context of freemium games which are not the same as your usual buy it game and nothing else. In the end it's the same old multiplayer vs singleplayer battle in a new form.
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>>736084336
>What exactly does denuvo protect? Lost sales?
To appease shareholders against a perceived threat that is in actuality a complete non-issue. So these companies spend money to get zero benefit and make a functionality worse product as a result.
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>>736105132
they won't be around much longer lil tardboy
after this HV crack dilemma RAPING them on such a brutal basis there is no recovery from this
you get any denuvo game cracked day 0 meaning pirates have the full game available to them before that shit even releases worldwide
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What's a game that released in the past few years that sold gangbusters and had no DRM? If it sold at a full $60/$70, even better.
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>>736082616
Calling it right now: they are going to embed their own Denuvo(tm) malware into the ring 0 as a kernel driver.
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>>736105426
elden ring
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>>736105426
Expedition 33
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>>736105165
"We dont want your business, fuck off."
That easy.
>but what about money???
If you can court literally 2-3 people to stay, you have plenty to make a good game and get a return. You dont need 15 retards trying to tell you what to do. If they wont capitulate when LITERAL HARD DATA says they are wrong, they arent even worth having there.

Fuck, you could probably make an announcement saying "hey gamers we lost an investor because he wanted to co-opt the game with stupid bullshit and we would rather deliver a good game instead, pls send donations if you can", youd probably get an avalanche of people giving you money just because people WANT to support a company that has integrity and prioritizes the game over soulless corpo shit.

This retarded system perpetuates because everyone wants to suck the cock of investors when just being clear and telling them that there place is a walking wallet and nothing else would solve the issue and right the industry.
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>>736105519
ER has an anticheat its just trivially easy to bypass
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>>736105278
But it isnt because you can just have dlc and shit. Or just get more over time, a fucking INVESTMENT if you will
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>>736105580
anticheat is not DRM
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>>736105426
Baldur's Gate 3.
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>>736105519
>>736105526
>>736105843
SO WHAT'S THEIR FUCKING EXCUSE?
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>>736105509

it would mean their Company has to: change their type of software, change legal rights according to this software, get approved by Microsoft, Pay monthly royalty and license fees to MS, tell publishers and companies you are a Kernel Solution just like Easy Anti cheat or BattleEye now

All this and they will still get cracked. Kek. Good luck with that.
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>>736105639
There's no point investing into something that bombs right out of the gate.
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>>736105426
Silksong
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>>736106049
they need to please the shareholders who own stock in denuvo
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Playing monkey game and didnt paid a cent to the communist chinese scum. You don't know how good it feels to me bros. They were pirating for decades and thought they can get away being pirated themselves with denuvo shit. Pure ecstasy.
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How? They don't own Hypervisor and I doubt Microsoft are going to go out of their way to rewrite how the software works for them.
And even if they did update it, just to fuck people, why would anyone bother updating to it?

Sounds like a nothingburger.
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inb4 irdeto decides to force daily token checks to counter hypervirus and offline activation chads end up being caught in the crossfire because of this
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>>736106173
>bombs
Who said this? This is the retarded mentality Im talking about
>DURRRRR IF IT DOESNT MAKE 50 GORILLIAN ITS A FLOP HURRRRRR
If you make back more than 150% of what you put into something, its a fucking huge success that scales up the more your baseline is. You dont NEED to have 50000% profit to invest in something, this is a retarded notion that literally will be impossible in about 10 years times when we have total global market saturation and the infinite growth meme fucking dies.
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>>736106426
I hope they do and I hope it wakes more cattle up but it probably won't.
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>>736082616
And it'll be immediately worked around, because a hypervisor has more permissions than they do.
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>>736105426
Cybergay 2077
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>>736106419
Hypervisor is just a feature that you can enable or disable in supported Windows editions
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>>736106426
>daily token checks
If there's any offline capability then you can forge the same day taking place over and over with a hypervisor.

They will either disable offline play or do what they say they won't in that article(kernel mode driver).
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>>736084336
>What exactly does denuvo protect? Lost sales?
Denuvo probably costs them more than any of the lost sales it protects ever would make them.
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>>736082616
Instead of cracking it, why not just remove denuvo from the game?
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>>736106426
I hope they do it, make normies experience as worst as possible, maybe then they'll wake up and ask the publishers to remove this garbage.
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>>736106738
i refuse to use hypervirus, its too risky. Offline activation is much safer and they're ruin it if they decide to enforce daily checks.
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>>736106426
daily checks already exist it's like 48 hours
you'd have to reduce it to every hour or so but then their Servers would be raped and it's just impossible to do for offline play
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>>736088287
Yeah, but the HV shills on here only want you to install their botnet, not play games
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>>736106908
They're gonna*
>>736106921
Nah, once you get a token you can use it until you do something that breaks it ( updating windows, changing BIOS settings, updating the game etc ). I got a Kazhan token 4~5 months ago and its still working fine here.
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>>736082616
doubt they can do much besides have their DRM be always online at which point normalniggers will get mad
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>>736107059
>I got a Kazhan token 4~5 months ago and its still working fine here.
updating windows will force happen with 11 whether you like or not
also hard to believe that you can still play it when other games won't last that long
HV bypass lasts indefinitely
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>>736107059
one Steam update during the month will make your token invalid
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>>736082616
>IT'S
a stinkin shitte in my pants. love seeing thirdies getting BTFO.
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>>736107515
So just like...don't update steam?
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>>736107643
wtf do I need Steam for then I have plenty other offline alternatives lol
absolute state of token retards
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>>736107515
I updated steam multiple times in the last 5 months and it didnt broke my token. And even if it eventually breaks my token i can get another one in 10 min on discord.
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>>736082616
Imagine being so brown to reveal your only advantage and promptly getting shut down
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>>736107774
Yea, much better to open a gaping hole in your system for the ruskies and chinks to turn your PC into a botnet or worse.
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>>736106340
kek based
I refunded because I didn't like how the combat felt
Maybe I'll pirate it now
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>>736104797
Video games are more important than DRM. Stay poor and stupid.
>>736105097
You seem to be lost. This is a video games board.
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>>736108152
>Video games are more important than DRM. Stay poor and stupid.

Shut the fuck up niglet. You don't own any of your fucking games. DRM ridden faggot.
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>>736108152
>You seem to be lost. This is a video games board.
no this is a Denuvo thread and you won't get my money no matter what game you molest with it
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>>736108549
No I'll keep calling out you poor sacks of shits who don't support video games.
>>736108758
>my monies
Only poor people get angry about denuvo on /v/
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does this work or not
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>>736109161
I would try it on my craptop but there is not a single game with denuvo I want to play.
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>>736109161
I don't see why not? It's activated, so denuvo isn't going to check for a while and goldberg isn't going to kick up a fuss
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>>736109068
>No I'll keep calling out you poor sacks of shits who don't support video games.

Top kek.

it's quite the opposite but your have a IQ of a fucking fish

I'll call you a nigger a niglet and worse that pays for DRM and doesn't support video games at all. You have extra tax just because of it.

You are by definition a shit eating DRM supporting faggot and a anti-consumer stance corporate bootlicking sheep

I'm none of that. I'll never pay for Denuvo trash. Ever. I will not be ridiculed by it or bent over by it. Not gonna happen.
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>>736082616
do these hypervisor cracks work on linux?
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>>736109068
>Only poor people get angry about denuvo on /v/

totally I can't think straight because all the money saved up thanks to Denuvo
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>>736109463
>Does windows hypervisor work on linux
Well . . .
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>>736084336
Not for $70, that's for damn sure.
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>>736109559
I don't know how this crack works I assume you just send some bullshit data to the DRM.
What exactly stops me who runs the game in a contained environment from doing that
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>>736109364
>dont support games
>wtf why are games catered to other people??
Stay retarded and mad.
>>736109539
Massive poor cope. Also, this isn't /biz/ stupid jeet this is /v/. Go back, reddit tourist.
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>>736106768
There's no probably, it's a fact.
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>>736109463
yes we had this question already
it's only for advanced users

https://www.reddit.com/r/PiratedGames/comments/1s3bz8w/hypervisor_bypassed_games_are_able_to_run_on/
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>>736109685
https://github.com/waylayers/hypervisor-info/blob/main/introduction.md
Then have a read.
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>>736109689
>Stay retarded and mad.
I acccept your conession shit faced corporate slave. What I support or not is up to me, not some nigger like you. You are shit dogshit under boots.
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>>736084336
Only Capcom stuff. It doesn't protect anything, that's why only like 5 companies still use it.
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>>736109873
>jeet tears
Denuvo buckbroke you
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>>736109689
>Massive poor cope. Also, this isn't /biz/ stupid jeet this is /v/. Go back, reddit tourist.
I don't think I will. You sure triple check what board you are in and then triple check what thread you tourist faggot are in. You are in DRM thread, not some nintendo e-shop rebuy $80 remastered ROMS thread. Kill yourself.
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>>736109815
oh that's not that hard.
A bit of an annoyance but whatever
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>>736082616
Doesn't matter, there's massive groups of people sharing tickets on disc*rd or selling them for a dollar. Denuvo is essentially broken and that was before HV.
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>>736109969
>n-no you"re the jeet bloody benchod bitch!! DO NOT REDEEM
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>>736109161
I mean, the token is going to eventually expire, but it should work.
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>>736109969
It didn't. We just recently buck broke the entire installation of video games covered by Denuvo.

In fact we buck broke Denuvo and Irdeto employees so fucking badly the went to TorrentFrek (see op) and tried to damage control.

You won't do shit. You are a tumor that has to place in digital media.
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>>736109997
Doesn't change the fact you're lost, hypershill.
>>736110123
>jeet lingo
I fucking called it.
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>>736107515
Why would a Steam update break tokens? I got one for Requiem in one of these discord pubs and it still works, game is on release version as well.
Tokens only break if you change your hardware (or install a windows update).
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>>736110045
This is why I have a second (much weaker) GPU.
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>an Irdeto employee doing damage control on a mongolian sandal weaving board
Remember, denuvoshills, this is what your hard earned money pays for.
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>>736110574
Hypervisor cracks really do scare them shitless, don't they?
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>>736110574
>We got degraded from chink basket weaving forum to mongolian sandal weaving board
Not like this . . .
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>>736110235
>Doesn't change the fact you're lost, hypershill.
why would I shill that
it's pretty common that when DRM companies get obliterated it's the hot news
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>>736109161
Replace your shitbox running the HV with someone's machine and that's essentially how token sharing works.
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>>736109161
Some things never really change
Now, how long until people turn HV cracks into nice and tidy keygen UIs you can just run weekly
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>>736109161
>>736109264
>>736109337
>>736110171
>>736110730
the hypervisor method does not generate a denuvo token so it doesn't work
I tried it
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>>736109161
Even if this works why in the actual fuck would you do this instead of just getting a token from an offline activation discord
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>>736082616
>have tried to break or bypass
Don't they mean have successfully broken or bypassed?
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>>736082696
This but unironically. Denuvo needs to turn even shittier and cause a game to fail that way these retarded companies stop using it.
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>>736110834
No shit... The whole point of the HV method is to trick the DRM into thinking everyone has the same PC specs. How would it possibly generate a token for different hardware? The only way to do that is through the Denuvo servers
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>>736085395
Hypervisor is beyond kernel level, no point
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>>736110721
Because you're a third world idiot who can't help but brag about temporary victories which just lead to more denuvo victories. hahaha
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>>736109161
>>736110834
yeah the hypervisor method doesn't shits out tokens out of nowhere, it's a bypass
the hypervisor environment exists precisely to make your HWID the same as everyone's else, and that HWID is the one that denuvo trusts
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>>736085395
I'm looking forward to the lawsuit for the inevitable denuvo UEFI rootkit
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>>736082616
I hope they put even more incompetent stressful processes into Denuvo games so normies wonder infinitely more why every new title runs like shit. I hope it's retroactive to the old titles as well.
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>>736111451
>retard gets triggered by pirates flexing their victory
good I hope you implode
all your third world accusations are hot air since I got money and Denuvo won't get any of that
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>>736089228
How are they going to fix something that runs before the OS even starts?
Their promise of a countermeasure is literally just
>Company that sells [product] promises [product] will still be be reliable and effective
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>>736109161
some anon said it doesn't work because HV bypass doesn't generate a token
to confirm you have to try that shit yourself
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>>736110834
I would very much like to play crimson desert. It looks like a lot of fun. Final Fantasy Tactics remaster too. But I just don't trust HV because its proven unsafe. Guess I will just wait for a better method. They're only video games, after all.
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>>736111867
>hello, loyal customer, you must now turn on the TPM and secure boot DRM if you wish to run this video game. it's critical to ensure our profi- I mean your safety. please understand
that way they stop unapproved drivers from loading = no hypervisor hacks
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>>736112258
>proven unsafe
By who, exactly?
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>>736111763
>>736112141
>SAAAAR
kek piratejeets are so pathetic
Go back. This is a video games board.
There is a reason why pc building general is on /g/
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>>736112292
Anon, unapproved drivers are already blocked by Windows, you're already cracking the Windows kernel's antitamper with EfiGuard or whatever to do this shit. They can't detect this because with that level of control you can just hide from denuvo.
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>>736112258
proofs?
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>>736111872
If it doesn't generate a token, then you have to have HV active everyone you play, for as long as you play. God no, fuck that. Not keeping my PCs pants around it's ankles while I play a game for six hours, because piotr the pidor might NOT fuck it in the ass
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>>736111872
It's a waste of time. Whoever wrote this has a fundamental misunderstanding of how the HV method even works. You can only get a token with a purchased game, period. The HV is just simulating an environment a purchased game ran once (submitted a ticket and got a token), and thus have a valid token.
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>>736112307
By people who know the extent of hypervisor access? It's not safe by design to allow anyone that access
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>>736112395
>unapproved drivers are already blocked by Windows
nger, they literally enable test-signing mode to load an unsigned driver and then the hypervisor
if you can't enable test-signing mode, the entire method is dead in the water
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Hypervision is literally you switching off any protection on your pc and allowing 3rd party add-ons to run in the background. You have to be a specialist in retardation to be ok with root kits running on your pc in the background just because you want to play a Denuvo game.

Then your also giving access to your pc to any outside source. If you format the hard drive that won't do shit because you gave open access to your pc
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>>736112678
>His handlers won't let him say nigger
Hi, Denuvo employee!
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>>736112432
it doesn't matter because you have a firewall that is active, you can play fully offline
also HV is a on/off setting depends on the script after the restart your settings are restored or you have do it yourself
you are a moron
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>>736112731
Good morning denuvo employee
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>>736112731
least organic shill
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>>736112292
Anon, TPM 2.0 is enabled by default on Win11 and as far I can tell, Win11 users are still able to run Hypervisor bypassed games, since there has been no talk of this only being a solution for Win10 and older users.
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Just get a cheap SSD and install Windows on it. Remove all the other storage when you want to play your HV games.
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>>736112813
>a firewall that is active
Are you stupid? Do you know that hypervisor allows access to everything? Piotr the pidor turns off your firewall because he has greater control over your pc than you do
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>>736112731
driver signature enforcement isn't really about security. if it were, you'd be able to self-sign your drivers, just like in troonix
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>>736112731
>shilltards parrot this shit 24/7
get new material
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>>736083126
i missed seeing this picture
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>>736112512
it's open source
I don't know what the fuck this tardo is talking about
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>>736112962
HV is bios level anon.
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>>736112731
>all those damage control replies from hyperjeets
SAAAAR
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>>736113037
>he relies on windows defender instead of a network firewall
wow you're retarded
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>>736112962
>this is the level of intelligence of hyperjeets
Kek you faggots deserve to get hacked
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>>736113037
Nope. Firewall will block as it did before.
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>>736113123
NTA but even defender will continue to block
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>>736113072
It's literally what it does anon. R u retarded and don't understand? It works via you essentially switching off all protection protocols and allowing unknown background scripts to run.
If jamal gets into your pc and then ransomwares you because of shit like this you can't act surprised because it'll be your own fault. Your giving open access to your pc
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>>736113098
Anything you give admin privileges can touch your BIOS. But it's never happening, UEFI attacks are absurdly hard to pull off, you need to target specific hardware. It's the kind of shit only CIA would pull off if you are some state level threat.
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>>736113089
Cool. Good to know that the code they use to fuck your PC is open source. It's like getting poisoned , but at least it was an organic, locally sourced poison
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>>736113098
computers have a bios? this is the first I hear of it
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>>736113163
I don't need HV, I can get my tokens. It's simply viable if you can't. You are just tech illiterate.
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>>736088785
This begs the question why companies bleed money on keeping Denuvo on games for years on end. Is it really nothing more than stubborn pride?
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>>736113385
>thinks using separate drives protects against bios level malware
>calls others tech illiterate
Man, hyperjeets are not sending their best
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There's one way to own hyperjeets: always-online.
Tick-tock hyperjeets.
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nothing ever happens
nothing will happen

Also, most of the security features are already disabled for W10 users.
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>>736113276
I can think of at least four large scale UEFI attacks in the last ten years..
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>>736113524
Again, tech illiterate. >>736113276
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>>736113524
good thing my PC doesn't have a BIOS
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>>736113301
just ban this retard already
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>>736113574
Again, you're coping.
>>736113590
Good thing for hackers you're retarded ;)
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>>736113564
>large scale
List them. It's always targeted.
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>>736113564
you do know you can easily reset your uefi firmware right? of course, your bootloader settings will be reset as well but who cares?
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>>736113535
That's already what Denuvo is, you imbecilic nigger. You literally cannot be authenticated by Denuvo unless you're online.
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>>736113597
>begging for jannies
Kill urself, my man
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>>736113679
Then why does it work with Steam's offline mode? Hitman doesn't by the way (you can't unlock anything or complete challenges if you play offline)
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>>736113648
Blacklotus
Logofail
Lojax
Moonbounce
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>>736113682
you should
tech illiterate low quality troll posts like yours only get so far
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>>736112731
Denuvo is a rootkit, and a big one. We still can't (easily) use Denuvo on Linux because it isn't easily converted to any kind of sane Linux security model. It's a fucking weird, impossibly huge, overdesigned rootkit.

So of course, to defeat it, you need to install another rootkit. But in that case, if you trust the second rootkit better than you trust Denuvo, it's harmless, you again defeat the first rootkit by using the second rootkit. It's just in how much you trust the second rootkit.

I mean, you obviously have no issues with rootkits, seeing that you have already installed Denuvo.
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>>736082616
I don't care about any games with Denuvo, nor do I plan to use HV. But watching Denuvo devs and shills cope and seethe is funny.
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>HV shills reduced to crying retard and begging jannies to ban people
Maybe peddle this shit on reddit, they might swallow your shit more easily there
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>>736113785
Because the authentication is good for a day or two before it needs to check again.
The point is, the HV bypass is able to just dictate to Denuvo that you are authenticated even though you aren't.
So what you're proposing is just Denuvo getting tricked every few seconds instead of once every couple of days.
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>>736114026
>Because the authentication is good for a day or two before it needs to check again.
false. The token will last as long as your pc doesn't change too much. You a retarded faggot..
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>cs.rin.ru, fitgirl, voices38 and DODI caution against using HV
>Some anon sped on 4chan whose only response is "hurr durr retard" says it's perfectly safe
Sure thing
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>>736114221
>cs.rin.ru, fitgirl, voices38
All three recently backpedalted. Fitgirl said as long as it was done by the open source kernel module, and with the right scripts to enable/disable, it was ok.

You all trooned out without understanding what you were talking about, but as it happens, even the competent troons in the communities are basically saying: yeah, ok, that's ok. The difference between you and the competent troons is that the competent troons are competent, while you're just troons.
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>>736113979
>HV shills
How do you shill for something that is free?
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>>736113979
>/v/ likes it
>plebbit loves it
>only some special random nigger is against it and for some reason always on /v/
underpaid shill or genuinely a complete retard?
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>>736113790
None of these were high scale, they were all targetted. Even BlackLotus that could bypass secure boot was targetted.
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>>736114090
Hardware change will immediately trigger another recheck because at that point, it believes you've installed the game on another PC. You're limited to something like 5 different PC installs a day, don't recall the exact numbers.
But that's not because the token is indefinitely good until you change hardware, you stupid fucking troglodyte.
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>>736114370
>backpedalled
No they have massive disclaimers. If you aren't stupid you can see that they don't condone it. In fitgirl's case, the word HYPERVISOR is given a red flag.

The rest of your post is.. Sperging about troons. Pointless.
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>>736113979
They're scum hackers. It's no coincidence hypervisor is being shilled everywhere on 4chan and russian hacker forums in the middle of the ukraine war where funds are needed.
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>>736114221
The HV itself is safe, FOSS even, what you do to get it running isn't, which is why they were reluctant at first but now discuss/provide them with a disclaimer. If you aren't tech illiterate, you won't have any issues, but the vast majority of retards pirating aren't.
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>>736114683
>safe and effective
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>>736084336
It protects jack shit. People who were planning to pirate but can't won't buy anyway.
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>>736089228
For the games that are already out, it makes no difference. They can't put a fix in past version, and there will already be clean steam file copies of all of these games available. They always get leaked on rin even before a crack is available.
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>>736114823
>two more weeks
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>>736114823
What.
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>>736114596
That shit is still going on? They literally share a land border, are Russians that fucking retarded?
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I love these threads. Anons who didn't install this because it's a terrible idea trying to convince other anons to install it even though it's a terrible idea.
All so they can laugh in a few months time at the retards they managed to gull into a terrible idea.
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>>736105558
isnt it literally illegal to go against shareholders in the US?
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>>736115023
2 more weeks!
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>>736114916
HV shill employed by the FSB doesn't understand a common 4chan meme? Shocking. Lurk moar, vlad.
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>>736115124
I'm not employed by the Front Side Bus.
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>>736115248
Man, Russian humour sucks
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irdeto sucks hahaha
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>>736082616
Nice try hackers. Not installing your malware.
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>>736115023
you aren't installing anything besides the game itself
only shows that the fearmongering shills are clueless apes
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>>736115405
... And hypervisor.
You're being obtuse on purpose, which is quite suspicious..
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>>736113489
The only companies still using Denuvo for every release also happen to be Denuvo early adopters. They probably still got the old deal (or a very favorable one), from before Irdeto bought and turned it into a service you have to pay a monthly fee for.
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fatgirl just dropped monster hunter wilds, quick go make a new account and tell people not to use hv lol
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>>736115776
>quick, put your head in this noose!
>I'll give you candy if you do it!
Yeah nah, most people don't need to be told..
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>>736115776
>monhun wilds
>offline
For what purpose?
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>>736115609
wha the fuck are you talking about retard
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imagine being so retarded you need fitboy repacks
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>>736082616
>despite being a nuisance to many legitimate customers, gaming companies were pleased to pay for this first line of defense
Jesus christ
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imagine being so retarded you need repacks
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>>736115992
>online
for what purpose?
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>denuvo token distributors in absolute shambles
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Why are piratefags celebrating this
You're making life worse for paying customers.
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>>736116010
>can't follow a simple conversation
RKN isn't sending their best
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>>736116335
Retarded frogfag.
Paypigs do this to themself.
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>>736116258
Denuvo killing hypervisors is better for them, though
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>>736116335
devs should focus on making games worth playing. and not worth pirating maybe
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>>736116353
oh yeah
list what it installs I'll wait
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>>736103814
Kek. I wonder how much money they lost with requiem
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>>736116573
Nigger
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>>736116736
that's not what it the script does
kill yourself
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KKHELLO Comr- ahh...fellow anonymouses!
*adjusts Ushanka*
I am to be thinking you install Hypervisor now.
*chugs vodka*
Is good access to fine games of the video, yes?
*begs for bread*
You not pay of the attention to computer while play
*starves to death*
Is NOT being used in botnet to fight boondoggle war, da?

really convincing in this thread, guys
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>>736084336
protects early sales numbers to appease shareholders
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>>736116736
thanks for confirming your retardation
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>please PLEASE install hypervisor first world "comrades" :^)
No, fuck off. We know pablo and rajesh have no money and you're not pwning them and only using them to market hypervisor so you can have a big payday with first world bank accounts. Kill yourself hypershills.
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>>736084336
>What exactly does denuvo protect?
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>>736082696
This
Should also require digital ID verification and the cost of verification should be passed onto the customer as a separate purchase
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>>736116857
>>736116915
see you in the next thread, pidori ; )
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>>736116736
kek look at those goalpost moving replies
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>>736116335
That's the best part
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Irdeto does nothing wrong. Stop with this nonsense, they just protect developers.
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>>736116471
until that happens they can keep seething
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>>736117265
Their seethe is my pleasure, getting tokens with a bot is trivial now
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>>736117119
thanks for confirming your retardation
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>>736117348
>>736116915
Typical Russian. Trying to get paid twice for the same work
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>>736117119
yes but I didn't ask for that you turbo nigger
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>>736082696
Why stop there? They should have remote access to your PC.
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>>736117439
he's a naturally aspired nigger
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>>736117520
Remote? Shit, I should be assigned an agent who sits beside me when I use my computer and moves my hand away from the mouse with a "tsk tsk" whenever I do something Irdeto does not personally enjoy
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>HV shills trying to claim that their shitty botnet is the only way to beat big business
4chan will do it the same way we always have.
>do nothing
>win

You Ruskies can get fucked.
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>>736082616
Now its just an arms race until denuvo goes out of business
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>>736082696
God bless the pirates for making Denuvo's cancerous presence more perceptible to normalfags
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remember when everyone said denuvo was unbreakable and then that only some mental ill troon could do it
yeah
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>>736117256
>(((developers)))
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>>736117894
this isn't breaking it, though. just fooling it into thinking it's running on the original purchasers pc.
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>>736082616
still free on YT
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>>736118002
it's being bypassed and broken, voices38 is cracking everything that is still uncracked and he claims his tools can do 2025 denuvo already
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>>736118114
nobody cares about that hasbeen
denuv0w0 is our guy
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If denuvo stops all piracy, why don't they just release it for free to every video game for the good of the industry? Why sell it to the highest bidder? Don't they want the industry to make billions and billions in lost sales?
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>>736118186
hypervisors are just a temporary measure
anyway, denuvo is done for
hypervisors, tokens, cracks, if you want to pirate a denuvo'd game, you will
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>>736118186
the games 0w0 haven't touched yet are the games voices38 are currently working on
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>>736118114
voices38 is almost certainly a denuvo employee
He only cracks slop no one wants and remasters of games that could be emulated for 20 years
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>>736118203
Why don't video game companies just release games for free? why sell it?
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Can Iran hit denuvo hq with shahed drone? asking for a friend
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It's so easy to get tokens to play these games without the need for cracks that I don't understand why anyone would need to take these retarded lengths and install a hypervisor bypass.

there are discord servers run by bots that pump out these tokens by the hundreds on demand..
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>>736118341
Sorry, good things do not happen
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>>736118329
Because they want to make money for the industry. Which is apparently good. But instead of doing that, Denuvo just scams video game publishers for exorbitant subscriptions. I wonder if it might just be a trump coded kike scam and not actually for the good of the video game industry.
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>>736118318
well, that's what was left uncracked
he just cracks recent stuff as proof he can do modern stuff, his plan is to crack everything that's left
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>>736118486
>well, that's what was left uncracked
There's like 40+ games that are hypervisor-only and are mostly original titles, and about half as many completely uncracked ones
>his plan is to crack everything
I'll believe it when I see it
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>>736118483
Denuvo creates sales for the video game industry. they do more for the industry than you ever will, frogjeet.
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>>736116335
Good. Maybe you'll finally rise up and stand up for yourself.
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>>736118341
No. get a job or open your computer to the botnet
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>>736118932
Denuvo requires both
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>>736118758
customers create sales tho
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>>736116471
>kill hypervisors
I want hyper-v to die, yes. piece of garbage that enables DRM
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>>736119117
t. Oracle/Broadcom
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>>736118758
>Denuvo creates sales for the video game industry
false
games sold way less with this DRM and it has been proven by SteamDB statitics
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>>736119187
without "secure kernels" and hypervisors, denuvo wouldn't exist
any "security measure" that works against the user is not security
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>>736119276
hyper-v is not even meant for consumers, retard
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>>736119378
also denuvo doesn't use hyper-v lol
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>>736119251
Post it
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>>736119276
What? Denuvo doesn't rely on virtualization at all, the bypass does. You tech illiterates are funny
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>>736119505
Post your employee card
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>>736119482
look it up yourself old game releases vs denuvo infested exes
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>>736119251
it was Steamspy
SteamDB is the newer one
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>>736119595
Your opinion is invalid then. Good night
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>>736119378
Yeah, neither is denuvo.
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>>736119718
it's not an opinion DRM shill it's a fact
sold millions of copies less than being "protected" by it
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>>736119582
actual retard
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>>736119876
Still no data still no charts. Meh
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>>736119791
I seriously doubt you know what hyper-v even is. You are probably mixing it with Windows' Core isolation or some shit lol
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>>736119986
that's your problem not mine faggot
lmao
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>>736120013
I'm not even the anon you were talking to. I'm just saying denuvo isn't meant for paying customers.
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>>736120085
Then your post is just a shitpost, not a fact
As a Data scientist i laughed at your shitpost
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>>736096789
nta
it isn't about being able to afford needlessly spending money, its about being able to play the game later down the line without needing steam
t. preordered the deluxe edition as soon as it was able to be preordered
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>>736082616
SHUT IT DOWN
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two weeks HIVfags!
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>>736120239
that's funny because I thought the same fucking thing when Denuvo didn't reach the same amount sales when I checked Steamspy API and compared game releases with and without it

almost if Denuvo DRM'd games are utter trash than not only run like trash but are indeed just fucking garbage
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>>736084336
The goal is not to increase sales, the goal is control.
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>>736106141
Wouldn't this also screw with Linux users? Which would mean the steam deck and upcoming steam machine might not be able to play games with the "new" denuvo?
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>>736120463
My guess is you compared with DEIslop AAA game with actually good AAA games.

Still no DATA from (You) though
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>>736120239
check it yourself
you have everything available to you mr data scientist
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>>736113301
You can read the code to see what it does yourself, that is what open source means. There is no mystery, you get what you see.
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>>736120648
I compared regular releases of video games. I won't spoonfeed (You) tho. Seethe DRM shill.
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>>736120683
Me ? Source ? Data ? Charts ?
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>>736116335
If you stopped buying any and all Denuvo games the problem would solve itself.
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>>736120779
Your dream is not a source
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>>736112731
That's not what virtualization does, at all.
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>>736120861
kill yourself DRM troon
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>>736118974
>m-muh denuvo
mindbroken
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>>736120463
Using Denuvo shows the priorities of the company are all skewed. Games like BG3 and Elden Ring are hyperfocused on gameplay and content, and are confident that there is a big audience willing to pay money for their games.
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>>736121031
>slop shills using tranny comebacks
lmao
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>>736121078
Low IQ take. Certain games need Denuvo much more than others.
>BG3
Tons of mods. Better to have official copy (just like Skyrim)
>Elden Ring
Multiplayer adds a lot of fun.
Seamless co-op multiplayer is super popular too. Better to have official copy
>RE9
Singleplayer one time playthrough. Way more reason to pirate.
>Crimson Desert
Singleplayer MMO one time playthrough. Way more reason to pirate.
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>>736121240
>Tons of mods. Better to have official copy
Completely opposite, forced updates = mods breaking
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>>736118758
Source?
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>>736121240
>BG3
Good game.
>Elden Ring
Good game.
>RE9
Goyslop.
>Crimson Desert
Goyslop.
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No one actually gave me an answer. If Denuvo stops piracy and has no downsides, why doesn't the entire industry just come together and fund it for every game? Surely the elimination of piracy for every game released after a certain date would massively increase sales for everyone?
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>>736121343
Mods get updated after official updates. This is very common. No one wants to check every mod if their outdated pirate copy is compatible or not. You would know this if you played games and modded them instead of waiting for denuvo "cracks"
>>736121391
>(You)
Poor.
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>>736121512
You can update pirated games
Doing so manually at the same time as all your mods, when (you) are ready, is much better than
>In this update we added chinese localization! :D
>btw all your mods broke :(
But denuvo consumers don't get that luxury
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>>736121474
What was the original question?
"Piracy" is just a scapegoat for poor sales of mediocre products.
Publishers aren't getting a dime out of my pocket if their games are shit.
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how long until forced always online to play singleplayer games?
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>>736121640
>If Denuvo stops piracy and has no downsides, why doesn't the entire industry just come together and fund it for every game?
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>>736121701
It's been done several times in the past, but outside of particularly slopped DRM I don't think it'll come to every game, not every company can afford to buy and run a server 24/7/365 for validation
But if any company were to start forcing it as a trend then it'd be denuvo
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>>736121701
That's what the jews want to do with shit like Geforce now
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>>736121745
Because it would reveal the simple fact it doesn't work.
It won't improve the profitability.
People pirate games because it's convenient, not because they REALLY want to play that one particular game.
There is simply too much competition on the market.
If it was only 2 mega-corpos with no indie market then maybe, we could see duopoly cartel controlling all vidya. Not happening any time soon.
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The only thing publishers can do to prevent puracy is just not to port their games to PC.

Emulation for modern consoles still has a long way to go.
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>>736122227
Just casually preventing piracy while losing hundreds of thousands/millions of sales. I wonder if that might be counterproductive, Shlomo.
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>>736122227
>incentivizes console hacking
wow
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>>736122047
>People pirate games because it's convenient, not because they REALLY want to play that one particular game.
This is the level of weak psyop hyperjeets think works on 4chan
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>>736122362
Shalom, rabbi. How's the bomb shelter?
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>>736121623
>You can update pirated games
ONLY if an update torrent is out. So much for "convenience" eh? You would know this if you pirated games, let alone played any.
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>>736122406
Outstanding argument, hypershill.
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>>736122362
The bigger psyop is people like you accusing everyone who pirates to be poor. I've pirated and have spent $4000 on PC games in the last 20 years. That doesn't include my physical collection across 3 gens.
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>>736122362
Anon, I hope you are baiting the shit out of me right now.
You have open access to the whole library of gaming at your finger tips.
But for some unknown reason you HAVE TO play the newest $70 AAA game, you simply cannot play anything else. Your life depends on it!
I just can't stop laughing right now.
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>>736122507
You will get killed by an Iranian missile, lol. You will die screaming like God intended for all christkillers.
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Other than certain special cases like Paradox games and The Sims 4, piracy is pretty unnecessary for anyone with patience. You can get any game on the grey market for <$10.
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>>736122624
Consider this.
Publishers refuse to release demos or shareware.
People who buy cheap games on sales rarely play them.
What is the point of paying for those game if you can't even get rid of them?
>inb4 family share on $team
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>>736122510
>>736122528
>rummaging through repack/torrent sites and checking which version of a game is available and hoping there are still enough seeders is more convenient than just pressing buy/download on steam
Nice try, shills. No one on 4chan is buying your psyop.
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The hypervisor workaround just basically ensures we will never get real cracks again.
It's like when some faggot uploads an MTL doujin to exhentai.
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>>736084149
ManU legend!
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>>736122553
So you admit you're a hacker?
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>>736122835
I haven't bought a single new game since RE2 remake in 2018, don't ask me bro
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>>736122862
>shills
Just be good paypiggie, I don't care.
You can always come up with an excuse.
Why are you pretending to be so stupid Anon?
Are (You)s really worth that much?
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>>736123073
>"I don't care"
>while pushing the most retarded psyop to convince first world lurkers into installing botnet malware that will pwn their bank accounts
Why are YOU pretending?
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>>736123164
>lying
I see Irdeto isn't sending their best today.
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>>736123164
Faggot, I'm not telling you to install hypervisor.
I'm using penguin so I can't even run this shit.
Are you taking any medicine for your paranoia?
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>>736123454
post uptime
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>>736082696
I agree but just to make DRM even more insufferable for paycucks.
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>>736084973
>Crimson Slop
He asked for games worth his time.
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>>736123442
>j-just t-trust us c-comrade
Fuck you. Trying to get newfag lurkers into installing this shit just to rob them, destroy their hobby, and give the government more reason to get involved with the gaming industry. Fuck you.
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>>736116335
>You're making life worse for paying customers.
Irdeto is doing that actually. You're barking up the wrong tree.
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>>736118203
>Don't they want the industry to make billions and billions in lost sales?
What? Of course not lol, they want to make money by scamming retarded companies who think that every single pirate is a lost sale you idiot.
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>>736123880
???
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>>736121474
>If Denuvo stops piracy and has no downsides, why doesn't the entire industry just come together and fund it for every game?
Irdeto wants to make money. It's a company like any other.
The way they decided to go about it is to create a DRM layer that is either hard or impossible to crack.
They sell it to companies who fear and worry that every pirated copy is a lost sale, and that's how they make money.
You really are a bit of an idiot, aren't you?
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>>736124275
nice.
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>>736124291
Well no I'm not, I asked a bad faith question because I know denuvo is a scam.
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>>736124089
>constantly shit on people supporting the industry by calling them "paypigs"
>psyop people online into thinking piracy is "cool" and "based" so more first world consumers feel inclined to be pirates
>spread information on how to pirate easily all the time
>force companies to turn to Denuvo recoup sales
It is 100% you retards' fault. Grow some braincells and reflect on your actions.
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>>736084973
He said worth his time. Maybe you missed that qualifier.
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>>736084973
>all those seething replies
topkek. As if anons forgot all the meltdown threads when crimson desert unveiled denuvo one week before release
fucking HILARIOUS
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>>736082616
They should add a clippy you have to click every 2 minutes and he reports online and if you don't click the game closes and if you bought the game you get locked out for 3 days
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>>736124291
This, its a white collar scam, extortion even.



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