>>736101225depends if it's multiplatform
Yup. Rebirth shed players like crazy and it barely sold as it is.
>>736101225>Is part 3 going to flop?don't care. I just wanna fight the weapons
>>736101225No but the inevitable re-release where they smoosh all three games together with new content will sell better than any of them alone
theres only FF7 and the AC movie though?
Probably, by their standards it will flop. Shouldn't have made it three games across like ten years.
Probably. I'll get it but I get why it will flop. I'm just glad it's guaranteed to release and we won't need a part 4. This should have been two parts.
>>736101225Rebirth flopped pretty hard, so it would only make sense if Part 3 flopped harder. The audience becomes smaller with each part.
It won't do great, but wont flop. I say this as someone who fucking hates what they did with these games to shit on FF7's fans and remaining legacy. But there are enough retards to lap this garbage up especially when it's eventually bundled and 15% off.
>>736101225'fraid so
>>736101225Take a guess
>>736102135>Square Enix's expectation wasn't methttps://files.catbox.moe/dsrmgc.mp4
The only hope is to de-woke Tifa's design.
>>736101225I'm surprised you think it matters. It doesn't. Remember, the two girls who made 1488 received three quarter of a million usd from the Italian government to create it, so it never needed to sell a single copy from the very beginning. I'm sure it's the same for Square. There's bound to be assets tied to it well beyond what will it won't be sold. Video games have gotten too big to rely on the product itself.
>>736101410>>736101845
>>736101225Let’s do some math>FF7R sold 7M units>Rebirth sold 2.5M units>That’s around 35% of the first one>If Part 3 sells 35% of Rebirth would be 875k copiesIt’s over
>>736102759Rebirth had 3mill after a month at most and is probably at around 5 mill by now
well no but we can pretend it is
>>736102894Probably not.
>>736102894Post your source.
>>736102894Post the sales milestone then
Don't let the one autist spamming and bumping threads from page 10 for literal days. No one sentient cares.
>>736103018It was ahead of tekken8 which sold 3mill by march.And it released on PC later whilst having more players than Remake there (which sold 1mill+ on PC in a year)
>>736101225Obviously. Rebirth flopped and episodic game releases ALWAYS sell less and less every episode. The model doesn't work, we have known that since they first tried it in the 2000's. SquareEnix is retarded for even trying it. There's a reason no other company does it anymore. If it worked every game would be episodic.
>>736101410How much of this do you think was because it was PS5 exclusive instead of being on ps4?
>>736103184Zero. It flopped worse on PC and even worse than that again on Switch 2. People had multiple chances.
>>736103305let it go jimbo
>>736103162>no sourceEverytime.
>>736103385Kek that's abysmal my man
>>736103402What's your source? It was ahead of tekken which sold 3mill by that time. And if you think it didn't sell on PC well you are just retarded.>>736103470Uh huh meanwhile remake sold 1mill + with those numbers
>>736103517Where's SE sales announcement then?
>>736103517Square just updated Remake’s sales to 8M and surprise they didn’t update Rebirth, I wonder why
>>736103760Where did they do that?
>>736103517>What's your source?Here
>>736103385>my shit was the best performing shit amongst this extremely curated list of shit games (all the games performed like shit btw)i'm sure square enix looked at that screenshot and thought: the billions of dollars were worth it
>>736103948
>>736104065So no actual number, figures. And later on hamaguchi said it's selling well but of course that doesn't count >>736104139So not SquareEnix. Probably waiting for the 10mill.
>>736103760Hmmmmm must be doing TOO good!
>>736102759the 2.5m number for rebirth was from the first month where it was exclusive to ps5, it's sold a lot more than that now right?
>>736102898>>736103162When part 3 releases I will have spent almost a decade telling people to buy each part on day one and to not wait for the triple pack because they'll get burned out playing all three in a row.But as soon as all three are out I am going to drop that concern immediately and switch to pushing the trilogy pack as hard as possible.Anyone else doing the same?
>>736101225Depends if they announce a trilogy pack off straight off the bat or not.
>>736103162Ahead in what way exactly? What chart are you referring to?
>>736101225You think Square Enix will actually just stop trying to take the remake "seriously" and just revel in pure fanservice for Part3? every playable character has 20 alt costumes, Jess Bigs and d Wedge are revived and playable, Sephiroth pulls a "yea, sorry" and is playable.
Who the hell is even excited for part 3 other than shipping faggots?
>>736101529that should be fun, also the snowy areas
>>736104139>still counting the free PSN downloads as sales>still counting a photo of an empty walmart shelf as proof of an "explosion" of salesI don't even give a shit but look at how desperate they are. They are so hungry for validation and have been yearning for that 10 milly since the beginning. If they got it would they finally stop crying? Until the PSN number is wiped from the total all these numbers mean nothing, anyway.
>>736106367It sold about 1.5 million on PS5, on PC it didn't even sell 500k.
>>736103184There are 90 million PS5s out in the wild now. Install base in no longer an excuse. The issue Rebirth had is that only 30% of players finished Remake because it's a bloated mess, so those are the only people who would potentially bought Rebirth.
>>736101551>Rerelease>246337748 GB
>>736104139>Less than FFXVBarry won
>sales sales sales>flop flop it flopped!!>look at the steam charts dead game it's lower than [other game]Why should I care about any of this, I'm not a Square Enix employee
>>736107157Then they make Rebirth even more bloated. I finished Remake just fine even with the padding but Rebirth was too much. I'd say even Intergrade was too much, I didn't finish that either.
>>736103385is this a falseflag? or are you seriously using this as a win for rebirth? lmao
>>736107009Well, they already did that with Part 2.Kind of>>736101551People are already bored and burned out by the mid point of each game.The pacing in those games is just awful and it got even worse with Rebirth
>>736101225>Is part 3 going to flop?For the last time jimbo no it won't.
>>736107382their best bet might unironically be a huge sale on remake/rebirth 6 months before part 3, and when part 3 is out, have a 'collector's edition' that includes all 3 games for a very heavy discount.i'm talking 90 for the 3 games.
>>736103184I fucking hate this fucking excuse.With a simple quick google you can see how much PS4 is in the market when Remake comes out vs PS5 when Rebirth did. Hint; Its about the same fucking amount.
>>736107334Rocket Town cut, Wutai cut, no snowboarding minigame, 90% of the content will be just be reused assets, no Weapons or much side bosses at all, Northern Crater will be an underwhelming final dungeon, kind of a big deal when they still have 40-45% of the original gane left to adapt.
>>736107734May we see the sales number?
>>736107978Sold 2 million on PS5 at best, less than Coomer Blade of all things.
>>736107871That's basically what they did for Rebirth. If you bought the digital version of Rebirth at launch, they threw in Remake for free. I do agree, they should run a deep discount on PS5 and PC shortly after the Switch 2 version of Rebirth comes out. These are long games, and people are going to need some time to finish them.
Sure, a bundle might entice people to buy the game... but the idea that you have to go through at last 40~50 hours of padded slops in order to reach the game you actually bought for gonna be a big factor.
>>736101225I just want them to push it out asap so we can move on. It's been two generations now. Im fucking sick of FF7 getting glazed and I'm glad this shit ass trilogy as tarnished that legacy. Only good thing to come out of it was Tifa's tits.Maybe they'll finally give other games in the series some recognition for once.
>>736107734How well is it selling? Could we have some numbers?
>>736107871They did a bundle like that for the KH series. It was like $300. You're dreaming if you think those kikes will give these games out for $90 bundled
>>736101225Part 2 was a 70+ hour reminder to drop this jeetslop and never look back. Square Enix is too out of touch to make games anymore, this shit felt like it was made by people that don't know what a video game is.
>>736108673>How well is it selling?Naoki Hamaguchi: “The second entry, FFVII Rebirth, has been doing very well on both PS5 and PC. I know some fans have expressed concerns, but please rest assured, we’ll be able to deliver a proper, high-quality third installment.”
it literally doesn't matter, people were afraid of part 3 being canned but it is being made anyway, the project will be finished regardless.
What will be the mechanics for the explicit sex scene we'll get in part3? Something like press x to slap titty?
>>736101225I dont care, i just want the game to be good.Im sure it will be judging Rebirth
>>736108798So zero numbers, got it
>>736101225Will the low sales finally push square to show us Tifa's bare tits? It would drive up sales, stellar blade is doing good
I see BA7RY is really doubling down on his "nathan" posting since getting exposed.
>>736108798Obviously that stopped, or else it wouldn't have been considered an underperformer>>736104065>>736108810I don't think anyone expects it to be cancelled. That would fuck any loyalty they have left in their fanbase. The question now is how phoned in is it gonna be.
>>736109023explain the lore of this
>>736101225Part 3 will probably do better than part 2
>>736108997If they weren't faggots, they would at the very least give us a non dei version of her outfit, like the Dissidia NT one>>736109023Barry was exposed years ago. He's a jeet living in Melbourne. I would post the image, but he has jannies in his pocket that'll give me a 3 day vacation
>>736109138Nathan is some greek autist that argues with Barry on another website. So he's Barry's scapegoat
>>736109138>>736109163Ba7ry is a different guy who acts the same way. Everything you can say about Barry you can apply to Ba7ry. The only difference is Ba7ry defends 7R instead of XV. But he does it in the same way. Just as dedicated and just as schizo.
>>736109158Third game won't even hit 1.5 mil in it's launch month. Less than 45% of players actually finished Rebirth.
>>736109319It'll be boosted by people waiting to play the whole trilogy at once
>>736109246Barry ended up defending stillbirth because XV was dead in the water and he needed something to defend and say was better than XIV. It's the same faggot. He tries to change his persona constantly (miserably) because he knows people know who he actually is irl.If he's saying shit like 'yoshitpiss' or crying about Nathan, then it's Barry.
>>736109138>explain the lore of thisShitposter is really angry at remake/rebirth.Shitposter, rather than being straight with it, falseflags and samefags.Shitposter gets angry when someone asks "why do you think that?" or disagree with someone saying "everything about remake is shit".Shitposter decides that anyone that does this is one person, called Ba7ry.
>>736109406Nobody is doing that, the vast majority people who still give a shot about FF7R have already played the first two.
>>736109246>>736109478See, this is a token Barry post. It's laughable he thinks people wont see through this. It's just the same dumbass poonigger
>>736109478oh hey ba7ry.what would a valid criticism of 7r be?
>>736109478This is very dishonest of you Ba7ry. Anyone can look up the Ba7ry Test in the archives to see exactly how people know when it's you.
>>736109218ba7ry is doing the exact same thing right now
>>736109138See? i got 3 replies IMMEDIATELY.
>>736109478If that were true then why are you the only person ITT being called BA7RY? Shouldn't all the 7R fans ITT be getting called BA7RY? I think you're just chimping out because you've been spotted. (Again.)
>>736103385>>736103470>>736104138>>736107603Lol. LMAO even >loses over 20k players in a month
>>736101225I hope not. I want FF17 to be a sequel to the FF7 remakes and I'm not joking
um if you compare rebirth numbers to something worse it actually did okjust ignore everything that did better. do NOT look at the digimon numbers.
>>736109568Bro, fans will obviously buy it again when it's bundled. One thing square enix did right with ff7 is that people are so obsessed they buy the games and merch multiple times. Idk why it doesn't work with other good ffs like 10, but 7 makes fans foam at the mouth.
>>736110067Lmao, you know Square is finished when they have to rely on the niggers buying Tifa boob mouse pads.
>>736110046>just ignore everything that did better. do NOT look at the digimon numbers.ah yes that game that was actually kinda mediocre
>>736109568Saying nobody is retarded.
>>73610931945% is actually high
>>736110046Stillbirth did Troonguard numbers, maybe even less.
>jimbo insists ff7r stopped selling at 5 million for years>they update the numbers to 7 million then 8.5 lmao
>>736109767See>>736109434
>>736110282It did vastly better than DEIguard on PS5 alone. PC was released a year later. It's a surprise it even managed 40k concurrent players, which is still 400 - 600k sales based on that alone.
>>736110291>Muh Demake numberRebirth costed almost double the amount to make as that gane.
>>736110354>costedGood morning, saar.
>>736110194They should sell Tifa's boob mouse pads to get rich, don't know why they hold back with fanservice merch
>>736101225I completely forgot about this shit. Somebody at Square has been sniffing their own farts way too much,
>>736110458Square merch is average in quality and overpriced. You don't want it. Just stick to third party stuff
Japan lost
>>736110554>I completely forgot about this shitsure you did
>>736101225Depends really. Does it have Rebirth's budget? Does it release only on the PS5?If the answer is yes to both, it'll flop. I do not think it will flop, because they'll be reusing assets to cut down on cost and will launch on at least PC and Switch 2 in addition to PS5
Considering no one bought part 2, I don't know how people are pretending part 3, a direct sequel, will somehow have a better chance.
>>736110615I'm saying that if they sold a figure with Tifa's bare tits, or Tifa tit merch in general, they would sell tons even if it's shit quality. It's just a bad financial decision to stick with boring bad quality figures instead of mass producing titty merch
>>736110747There's a (low) chance that 3 is really good, which in turn would make people buy 2 to play 3. Also what is going on in that image? Is that from Thor or something?
>>736110918You overestimate how many people actually buy r18 gooner figures lmao
>>736110642looking at this, you see wy anime games from Japan are so behind technically. everything on her has physics with minimal clipping, if any. while Japanese devs pat themselves on the back for doing physics only on hair.
>>736111042Just sucks 90% of chink games just devolve into overused chink mysticism stories. ZZZ being a prime example
>>736110221>rebirth mogged by a mediocre turn based gamereally makes you think
>>736111042And even still I'd rather play Rebirth over any chinkshit game, keep in mind it's only being critiqued compared to other older Final Fantasies.
I just read about the ba7ry test in the archives and suddenly viir threads make a lot more sense
>>736110926She did a panel after Black Swan, a film where she dykes out, and the questions from the audience got a perverse. It's on YouTube if you want to see a Hollywood actress slowly realizing her feminine lipstick-lesbian role was enjoyed mostly by perverts.
>>736101410fpbpStillbirth killed Final Fantasy
>>736111327oh yes please random anon that just showed up, tells us about the baryrwq...er...*check notes* bar7y test! we just need this right now!
>>736109138One person on here likes FF15, and he spent so long whining about how FF15 must be the best game in the series that people recognized him on sight by name. That's Barry.
>>736111003You underestimate the demand for Tifa's tits, it's literally the main reason people buy the game
>>736111327Once you see his tells, he's so blatantly pathetic. That's jeets for you though. Their mental capacity is like a low tier logic machine
>>736111371Kek beautiful
>>736111421you still haven't answered >>736109612 ba7ry
>>736111421I curse your mother
>jimbo jimbo jimbo jimbo jimboShut up ba7ry>BA7RY ISNT REAL BA7RY ISNT REAL SHUT UP NOBODY EVEN KNOWS WHAT YOURE TALKING ABOUT YOU JUST MADE THIS GUY UP NOBODY CARES ABOUT THIS STOP MENTIONING ME I MEAN HIM I MEAN URGH I DONT EVEN REMEMBER WHAT HIS NAME WAS BECAUSE HES NOT REALFunny, isn't it?And so busy running defence all his nathanposting stopped immediately.
>>736111469Thank you for giving an understandable explanation
>>736111796>namefag namefag namefag>NAMEFAGNext-level self-awareness. Take your meds, schizo.
>>736101225Since they killed Aerith I won't buy part 3, they just lost themselves a player
>>736111942Who started it?
>>736101225no shit retard it has no audience that justifies it's ridiculous budget
>>736101225A random gookslop completely crushed a 30-year-old IP in sales. Final Fantasy is dying.
>>736111991Not me. I have 2 posts with a few (You)s.
>>736111796he didnt have any issue with namefag posting until it was him being called out. I notice >>736109612 has still not been answered. the ba7ry test literally never fails.
>>736101225Part 3 won't even make any sense and be rushed condensed garbage.Remake was a half decent game but rebirth was a car crash with so much wrong with it.If there going to end on a 3rd chapter they'll have to either remove sections completely or compress them to something else entirely.Let's not forget the retarded shit with zack they'll also force into the game that won't make any fucking sense.>>736101529The weapons are just giant fish now anon
>>736107609They'll presumably streamline and rebalance a lot of it, and it'll be a huge amount of work especially if they add content, but they are 100% going to bolt them together at some point
>>736112528The one you see in Rebirth isn't one of the major weapons. Sapphire will still be a giant sea monster.
>>736112528>The weapons are just giant fish now anonNo fucking way
>>736112649Yes, Anon.They said in a recent interview that all the weapons were cut since they were too big for part 3 and they are just a waste of time, so instead they put whales and called them weapons.
>>736112757But don't they need Sapphire for the plot? Which then makes no sense having jist one weapon and it being fucking Sapphire
>>736112617He doesn't know....he actually doesn't know....anon you might wana sit down for this
>>736112823You might want to take your meds, anon. Your doomer drone brain is bordering on delusion.
>>736112810They said they are restructuring everything so no cannon shooting weapons.
>>736101529I don't know what is going to happend, if the kept a formidable ace in their sleeve, but one thing is clear: better if they optimize it as much as they can, for the future of tech is obscure and the cannot count on "hardware horsepower" to fill the games they left in their products. Better if check and double-check again what they have in their oven, before bringing it out to serve, otherwise this will backfire heavely and believe me there will be a lot of troubles for every one, this time on.
why do zoomers defend this slop like their live depend on it?
>>736101640This.>>736101754
>>736101754Part 4 will be camouflaged as DLCs.
>>736103760They're waiting about releasing it for Switch 2, before showing the number.
>>736106869It think that the "pack" you're getting is just an offer of all the three titles, like what happened with Rebirth. Don't expect a remade game with all the three parts melted together. They're never going to do that, you can be sure about that.
>>736107038No one. People are just curious to see how much deep is the blackhole they have put themselves into. Just curiosity.
>>736107038Why are you like this?
>>736107913They can't cut Wutei because they have a massive plot point set up around it.
>>736101225As long as Tifa and her great big breasts are in it, it will succeed.
>>736114410They emphasized her boobs in part 2 and it wasn't more successful, nobody cares about them
>>736113681Zoomers aren't playing Final Fantasy
It baffles me that Squeenix had a golden ticket to make massive amounts of money and all they had to do was to update the visuals and mechanics of the original game while keeping the story intact.How fucking dumb can one company be?
>>736114002I'm genuinly curious to see how much of a rushed mess Part 3 will be in terms of the pacing and story. They have a huge chunk of the original game to cover as well as their own new bullshit to resolve.
>giving a fuck about profitso who do you work for? competition of FF or something related to FF?
>>736115229Companies do everything they do for profit, anon. They're not charities.
>>736113928No one expects that retard>>736115229You're a retard too. I just wanted you to know that
>>736115308what about the vlc guy or the winrar guybut anywayand the only reason you should care is, if you work for said company. so who do you work for?
>>736115620The reason I care is because this massive fuckup robbed me of a real, actual remake of FFVII. Every penny Squeenix loses over this is deserved.
>>736115620You're a double retard who thinks in a very linear fashion.
>>736115503>i'm a retard for not giving a fuck if a game sells 10 copies or 10 billion copies because it doesn't affect me anyway since i wont profitok>>736115746makes sense,dunno what you expected . FF hasn't been worth playing since 9 was shit
If they save Aerith and deliver a satisfying ending it will be successful
>>736115857It does affect you if you want more games from the company. They have no money = you have no games. I await your dismissive response of somthing gay like>Well I don't want more Square gamesbecause you're a triple retard
hope my dead wife makes a return
>>736114336>>736107913They already said they cut wutai and rocket town because they were too bigthey are massively cutting the game lmao
>>736116035>Well I don't want more Square gamessorry i don't careevery franchise i loved was ruined and rapedget fucked with your fanboyism
>>736115951>If they take a massive dump on the legacy of the game their abomination is based on, they will succeedThat is exactly what they have been doing for two games now, and it has resulted in extremely poor sales.
>>736116116>Gets btfo for his retarded take>I-I don't careSit the fuck down you stupid nigger
I never played jrpgs and dismissed their quality before but pirated ff7remake a while agoThe exact moment I knew I was in for some kino was the 1:41s melody in the first mission. I ended up playing the pixel remaster for 6, orig 7, 16, 15 and 10 after. Eagerly await part 3 as well. Love the soundtrackhttps://youtu.be/ewZK8pizAxA?t=1m41sThank you for reading my blog
>>736116248>can't accept somebody being neutral>starts to insultlike clockwork with you guysanyway going to play some games while you get paid to shitpost
>>736112567>especially if they add contentThey literally need to do the opposite. The pacing is so ass.
>>736101225the 7R series seems to be losing players with every installment and the shitty gacha games are killing the 7R brand. It's not drawing in new people and now the 7R engine is outdated
>>736116343There's nothing neutral about you. You asked why people care about profits. You got an answer and preemptively called out on the cookie cutter response niggers like you always give then suddenly you pretended not to care? Give me a break.
>>736103517>It was ahead of tekken which sold 3mill by that timeSounds like you're quoting one of those regional or time period charts that have nowhere near the full picture of total sales. Why not link/post it if it's not?
>>736104139>Square just updated Remake’s sales>According to Eurogamer
>>736101225Why does /v/ have such a hate boner for this game?
FF7 was ruined by everything released post original game. Worst of all 7 Rebirth is packed with continuity porn. Most people have no idea what in the ever loving fuck Broden is talking about in Kalm and why its so different. Well you should have played some stupid japan exclusive mobile game.Leslie is another case of this except its some novel
>>736117027It does everything/v/ hates>Destroys nostalgia by rewriting the plot>Open world>Action rpg>Censorship out the wazoo>Diversity That's just the stuff i can think of off the top of my head
>>736117430I don't mind them changing something if its at least, equally good. But its 99% for the worse. I also dislike how the world is way more modern and the death of the original dieselpunk art direction.
>>736117697>the world is way more modern and the death of the original dieselpunk art directionhas been since AC
>>736118231At least AC is post FFVII, you could argue that type of technology died with mako energy. But Crisis Core a prequel has more modern tech than OG FF7
>>736117027do you ask this about every game /v/ calls bad or just this one?
>>736111229ZZZ is barely a game Its even more shallow than musouslop with retarded progression system MTX rng gear to top it all off
>>736118454Sure but what is it, just 2 years later? The entire vibe of it all is just very different and has remained that way til this day in all FF7 products
>>736112567Of course they will add content, there's a bunch of new unanswered stuff
>>736101225>Is part 3 going to flop?It's going to sell worse than Rebirth (which already sold poorly)
>>736101551The AI upscale remaster is not happening until at least 2037
>>736112528>The weapons are just giant fish now anonthose are baby weapons, they're gonna grow up
Say anything negative you want about OG, but if you insult AC there's going to be trouble
>>736101225Yes.Final Fantasy is irrelevant these days.
All the assets are already in Rebirth.
Worst of all with the game being split into three parts there is no coherent vision. They are just randomly reacting to shit.FF7R ends with arbiters of fate croaking, whoah the possibilities are endless. They show us Biggs, Wedge are alive and the OG timeline is gone.Then comes Rebirth and basically retcons it all. Dumbest of all there is a scene if you get RedXIII date where he goes something like man we can't fight fate. Yeah except for killing the arbiters of fate at the end of Midgar tardo.
>>736118950dont worry, month one was slow but the following month rebirth sold MILLIONS of copies
>>736101225How are they going to resolve all these unfinished plot points in Part 3?
>>736104139This is really embarrassing
>>736119327Regardless of what happens it will be defended to the death by people who would have loved it no matter what. All they want is more time with the characters. It doesn't matter if it's tedious, boring, nonsensical, badly written, insulting to their intelligence, utter trash. They could make a 100 hour game set in Seventh Heaven and they'd like it, because they get more time with the characters. At some point fans like them became obsessed with the characters, but don't actually care about the story or the game they're in.Is AC good? No, but it gives us more time with the characters, so they like it.Is BC good? No, but it gives us more time with the characters, so they like it.Is CC good? No, but it gives us more time with the characters, so they like it.Is DC good? No, but it gives us more time with the characters, so they like it.Is EC good? No, but it gives us more time with the characters, so they like it.Is 7R good? No, but it gives us more time with the characters, so they like it.
>>736119327They won’t
Are they gonna call the 3rd part "Reunion"? Because that's already the name of Crisis Core
>>736119327>How are they going to resolve all these unfinished plot points in Part 3?lollmao
>>736119327it was all a dream
This faggot posted this 70 times for his dogshit to get it's royal edition cancelled kekhttps://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/U_0elUjOSHDZHUwbA9brsw/
>A den of the worst scum and cutthroats>Basically seen as a death sentence >In Rebirth its just a bunch of weirdos What the hell happened?
>>736119613I was wondering where you were anonThis was the first FF thread I ever saw without you dumping your "seethe at SEGA" folder in it.Anyway, please continue. I enjoy your mental illness.
>>736119703they dont make these games for you, they make them for women to stream while smiling. they dont want to see anything yucky.
>>736119424It saddens me how true this is.You would think these people would get upset at Square completely bastardizing these characters they supposedly love, but nope. Fuck some of the real diehards will gaslight themselves into thinking the new versions of these characters are how they always were
>7 seconds
>>736101225I'm past caring.
>>736103184I don't believe SquareEnix's excuse that exclusivity made it flop. Exclusive FF games used to move console sales. Remake just sucked and turned people off. It's as simple as that.
>>736119703Dei unironically
>>736119613>Muh samefag schizo
>>736119424https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/text/No%2C%20but%20it%20gives%20us%20more%20time%20with%20the%20characters%2C%20so%20they%20like%20it./
>>736119868is that all he can spare to play with me?
>>736120260>not an argument
>>736110046>do NOT look at the digimon numbers.retard
>>736120260And he's right
>>736101225People who played original FF7 will be pushing 40s now. And kids dont care about Jarpig uncsloppa. Really shows nips cant innovate.Their last hope was to count on there being enough manchildren who will want to play their nostalgia game in a premium movie format.
>>736120687hard to prove since there arent numbers, but majority of the culture around ff7 states quite the contrary.But i guess this is 4chan, you can say whatever you want and you WILL find someone who says "yeah you are right"
>>736120754The entire remake trilogy will be forgotten after a month when it's finally done, doomed to only be discussed by the obsessive nohopers who cling to this IP due to an unhealthy attachment to the characters. The world will move on, but this dwindling group of autistic balding millennials will still insist the trilogy was a phenomenal success and continue discussing it like the shit movie that came out 20 years ago that nobody but them cares about.tl;dr: The OG will continue to be a classic, the remake trilogy will be tossed on the garbage pile like all other compilation trash.
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/text/The%20entire%20remake%20trilogy%20will%20be%20forgotten%20after%20a%20month%20when%20it%27s%20finally%20done/
>>736120816>"yeah you are right"This sounds crazy but there's a guy here who actually gets most angry if you agree with him. So be careful. Saying someone is right could be dangerous.
>>736120912And he's right. You know it too, which is why you can't bring yourself to say otherwise.
>>736119327
>>736120260>the same deranged retard enters the same threads about a game he doesn't like, to post the same copy pasta, to reply to himself the same thing, thousands of timesthat's some commitment Barry, i'll give you that
>bad game sells poorly because its bad>will sequel to bad game sell better?Hmm
>>736121125I wish I could say hes wrong but hes not
>>736119424Why does this post make me so angry? I get really mad at it every time. If I had one wish it would be to refute it and have everyone agree with me. I hate it so much.
>>736120260>>736120912So... how is the copypasta wrong again?lmao stupid schizo
>>736121358I used to argue against it but I kept accidently proving it right
>>736121495Nobody is saying its wrong im just pointing out it was posted before
>>7361202604chan is smaller than i thought
>>736119327They'll save some for the dlc, which also doesn't answer them. Please look forward to more mobile games with more mysteries.
>>736121495see >>736120816
>>736122009You failed to explain how he's wrong. You imply there is some kind of evidence he's wrong out there... somewhere... and then top it off by with "people saying hes right mean nothing"So what's your actual rebuttal and how does it have value when the posts you don't agree with have none?
>>736122424>So what's your actual rebuttalNo need for rebuttal when you have no evidence to support your claims. You just took a wild guess out of thin air. That's not the scientific way.Want to prove >>736119424 right? show me. Its gonna be hard though, since the evidence shows generally speaking, the compilation is a mixed bag for fans. Some like it, some hate it, some like some stuff and others hate just some stuff.
>>736121556>im just pointing out it was posted before>Ahhhh people post things on an imageboard im literally going insannneeee
>>736122567Sounds like you can't prove it wrong
>>736122859I think i already did, go to any gaming forum and you'll find that the compilation in general has a mixed reception.
>>736122567>No need for rebuttalFunny you saying this when you've malded over that post at least 30 times before. Glad to hear you're no longer bothered by it.
>>736122984Take your schizo pills.
>>736122859the burden of proof is on you. It's your claim.
>>736122917Yeah you're right, the 7 ip has driven a lot of people away. Part 3 will probably sell quite poorly due to how SE handle it.
>>736123045The proof is you can't tell me what could happen in part 3 that would make you dislike it. You will enjoy it regardless because of the characters. That alone proves it's true.
>>736123070Can we close the case on >>736119424 then?A simple "yeah, you are right. I was wrong, i'm sorry" will suffice.
>>736123174>please... PLEASE stop posting that ;_;Nah we wont know if its wrong or not until part 3 is out
>>736123154>X game sucks>proof?>NOOOOO IT'S YOU WHO HAVE TO PROVE THAT IT DOESN'T SUCK! AAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>736123245Ok, man.
>>736123174>A simple "yeah, you are right. I was wrong, i'm sorry" will suffice.You know better than anyone how difficult it is to say those words. When was the last time you said them in earnest? And what was it about? Did you ever say them?
>>736123276Do you ask people who say the game is good to prove it? Of course not. Why ask the people who say otherwise for proof?
>>736119424Currently writing my 500th post in reply to this. Not that it needs refuting or bothers me. This will be far from my last post on the matter.
>ba7ry never answered >>736109612The ba7ry test never fails
>>736123276I didn't say it sucked, it's not out yet. I simply asked for an example of something that he would call bad in part 3. But he can't because he will like it no matter what because of the characters.This being true is why he's so mad about the post in the first place.
Why are ff7r shills so mad when people dont like their games? Like this is schizo seething butthurt tier mad lol.
>>736123356>>736123430>>736123642>>736123521look at him go!
>>736123667There are some painful objective truths they simply can't stand to hear
>>736116149If not the changes they already made are meaningless, idiot, what would be the point of all the arbiters of fate stuff?
>>736123697he beatin yo ass
>>736123309Nothing? How nice to have never ever been wrong
>>736123356>Do you ask people who say the game is good to prove it?I don't, i take their opinions as fact every time. And then i strawman whoever's opinions i disagree with in order to make my argument more compelling. And then i reply to myself over and over, to make it seem like everyone agrees with me.
>>736119424True
>>736123921Since you've already lost composure, let me ask: which makes you angrier, the "will like whatever they get" post or the ba7ry test?
>>736123642That's how it looks to me
barry won btw
>>73611631390s and early-00s JRGPs are unironically the peak of the entire medium.
Still makes me laugh to this day that thia guys autism or whatever tricks him into always framing this as a war of VIIR and SE and the fans etc but he's always the one lone anon biting and bitching and sulking and eventually snapping over and over again and never does he think "wait, am I a retard for being the one guy, every single time, getting wound up? over the exact same things?"Look inward, I'm begging you. You are a lolcow. Why tell you this? Because you can't help it. You'll do it all again.
>>736124424This must be that explosion of sales I heard about
>>736124491Take a good look at your post, say it outloud and tell me how autistic it sounds, if you can.
>>736124630I just did and it sounded great
>can't give a single example of ever being wrongHow insecure can you get?
>>736123642Shit you're right
>>736123921And you were doing such a good job of pretending you were a new anon and not the same crybaby wailing over that post for the 1000th time. What a shame!
The sausagefest with Cid and Vincent entering the gang while losing Aeris permanently (while we all know she's going to be a tulpa hounding every chapter) will kill the hypePromote Kyrie and Cissnei as replacements to Aeris and give them scenes with Kuraodo
>>736120816The fuck you mean the culture? FF7's culture purely revolves around memba berries and riding on 30+ year olds nostalgia for the original game
>>736121358You're angry cause it's correct. It's derivative to an extent, but ultimately correct. It's also sad that's it's so accurate cause it means we're living in such a sorry state that many people gain comfort from seeing old characters get dragged out to be bastardized over and over
>>736125579You are still going, holy shit
>>736122567>Um source?!
Square Enix is going to learn why we stopped the whole episodic games thing. You naturally just bleed players from installment to installment not gain them. And FF7R has extra baggage since it's not a remake and imo necessitates having the context of at least FF7OG. This whole remake project has just felt incredibly stupid to me.
>>736123667FF7 fans are the biggest faggots in the FF fandom because it's filled with normie scum
>>736120871This isn't a prediction, it's already happening.
>>736123667Their unhealthy hyperfixation on the characters has been going so long that it has become their personality to like it, so they take it personally if you're mean to "them" (the games)
>>736123174But it's not wrong. You and many others will like it no matter what happens just because you'll see the characters again and that's enough to ignore any issues it may have
>>736124630Autistic types aren't self aware, you're wasting your time
>>736125629Different person. Sorry I can't be your boogyman
>>736107382>Intergrade was too much, I didn't finish that either.It's not very long, where did you get stuck? I did everything as I progressed and the only thing I had any real trouble with is the final boss, which once you know the gimmick you can build around it to pretty easily defeat it.
>>736125987What's wrong with having autism? Asking for a friend who regularly spends hours arguing with posts that don't bother anyone else.
>>736126323Your lack of awareness in social scenarios is tiring for everyone else around you (yes I know "your friend" = your autistic ass
>>736101225I doubt it. I hope there are endless side quests that take endless hours to complete and the reward is nothing.
>>736101225FF7 fanboys in shambles kek
>>736101225It already flopped. The fact SE cant make a full game nowadays proves the point that they are a dead company.
>>736107382Its when you fill your game with pointless filler just to pad it out
>>736103184>PS5 exclusive instead of being on ps4?Why would you bring up PS4 instead of PC and Xbox? The PS5 install base was already large.
>>736107038People outside of /v/'s echochamber maybe? Outside of this place the game was received overwhelmingly positive reception. Retards still don't know literally every game will be shit on here.
>>736101225It's crazy how uncanny this game is, the OG game did not know it would be some major hit so it was authentic and raw, but FF7 the remake (tm) is so far up its own ass it sickens me.
It's gonna do the same numbers as it did as a ps exclusive. The dumbasses at SE backstabbed Sony for some quick bucks but all they'll do is make the other platforms take sales away from the ps version rather than grow every platform. They'll announce a sales milestone pretending going multiplat worked but then it'll immediately drop off a cliff like many recent titles that sold a lot in the beginning
>>736129779Reviewers only gave it good score because "OH its FF7 the fucking classic! Look how great Clouds butthole looks in HD". And user reviewes are mostly 30-40 year old faggot fans who cant see furthee from their fandom smeared asses
>>736103305For games like this zoomers and below will literally watch their favorite streamers or a youtube video about it instead of waiting for the PC release so square's whole delay on that was rightfully retarded and they essentially only got ps5 sales. For any story heavy game you cannot wait anymore. It would be the same for RE9 if it wasnt multiplat and why capcom doesn't do exclusives.I work with tons of zoomers who have said "Oh yeah I saw a video with all the cutscenes". PC launches and nobody gives a fuck anymore anybody who anticipated the story already youtube'd that shit.
>>736109897Game was genuinely horrible, I liked part 1 it felt like a KH game, boss fights were well made and fun to replay, combat was strategic.Rebirth is too big of ubi slop with dog shit characters like red xiii and yuffie (there's a reason a lot of characters had minimal screen time in the OG , square knew they sucked) and the combat is way less refined cause they have to fill the game with slop. Something about rebirth's open world pisses me off, but I'm the type of player who only enjoyed BOTW/crimson desert/ dogma and elden ring, an open world game has to REALLY be putting in effort for me to care.
>>736119703>trafficked women>implied they were going to whore out Aerith, Tifa and Yuffie if Cloud didn't win the chocobo raceThey're just a bunch of goofy guys!
>>736130043Heavy cope
>>736130343I'm in the same boat as you. What pisses me off about it is how it's all copy pasted. All the open world activities look plopped down into the world without them actually looking natural to where they're placed. The Moogle mushroom houses being the most egregious. Looks like a fucking unity asset. Not to mention 90% of them have you using that out of place contraption Fagley gives you
>>736130343FF7 Rebirth has better combat than all of those games tbf
>>736101225Redditbirth floppedShills btfo
>>736106641Explain to me why the freak you would recommend people to play all 3 FFVII remakes when they can be playing Expedition 33 instead. With superior writing, combat, map design and WAYYY better pacing.
>>736130343Rebirth's combat was super refined. The challenge modes were so finely tuned that you were forced to utilize nearly every aspect of the combat to beat them. I can't get even go back to Remake's combat honestly. I'm not saying Remake's combat is bad. It's just way too one-dimensional in comparison.
>>736136976It's not a long list. I say play both. Expedition 33 and Remake/Rebirth are probably the only "JRPGs" that I've enjoyed in the last 10 years.
>>736129779reminder that like 5k reviews under 9/10 were deleted in the first few months the game was out and most of them weren't even spam 0/10s
>>736137260>>736133062I do not like synergy attacks, at all. The bosses also felt less memorable because they had to include more of them. Even random shit like Abzu in remake were fun as fuck to fight, better mechanics, better balance. Rebirth just has too many things to avoid the ATB system that remake excels on, it's like they just wanted to make an action game at this point so they said eh fuck it let's give them 1000 ways to not have to interact with it whereas in Remake the atb system is basically the devs going "Let's just make every character Tifa!"
>>736139914In rebirth* the atb system is the devs making every character Tifa. Anyway call it what you want, I played remake twice, normal and hard mode. Rebirth I finished by avoiding every single open world slop and turning it into a movie game basically. It sucked
>>736101225It will easily sell worse than Rebirth. That said I don't think Square has put as much money into part 3 as the other two games. I expect a very short movie game to quickly get the plot done so they can finally move on to making shitty mobile and pachinko games
>>736137260I could see that, personally like I said don't like synergy attacks and I think the game has maybe too many options at this point at the risk of sounding like a mouth drooling retard but my #1 complaint is so many meh bosses whereas in remake every single boss was trying to wow me.
>>736104065Are you pretending to know what that image says? This modern illiteracy issue is crazy to actually see play out
>>736116313based enjoyer
>>736101225>Two years out from Rebirth>Still not even the subtitle for part 3God damn it GOD DAMN IT
Boy, I can't wait to FIGHT SEPHIROTH FOR THE THIRD TIME ALREADY
>>736142512Not gonna happen. You'll join him and he'll be proven right. Trust the plan
After part 2 catastrophic sales? Snowball's chance in hell.
>>736137856bullshit
>>736101225This game is for Redditors. I’ve never met anyone irl who gives a shit about this waste of time. 8 years for a remake of a game you already played but it’s worse now. Dumb.
>>736143252
>>736142386Thanks. ff7remake enjoyers need to support each other
Kill Chadley, make all his materia just shit you find in the world.Summons also need a rework, I'd honestly just prefer them taking like 6 ATBs to use a cool ability instead of sitting in the fight doing fuck all until I spend ATB.
The ba7ry test literally never fails, its quite impressive
>>736101225Day 1 on switch 2, home of the jrpg enjoyers
>>736129779You'd think a game that literally everyone outside /v/ loved so much would sell better
>>736107038Literally no one. Lots of people played Remake, saw it was Nomura time ghost bullshit, then checked out. Then Rebirth solidly turned Final Fantasy VII into a brown and gay version of Kingdom Hearts, but it's also an ubisoft collectathon fake open world game, and it justifiably only got like 2 million sales that Square Enix is still so embarrassed about that they wont comment on it, while they give sales updates about just about every other game they've released before and after Rebirth. Part 3 is going to be Rebirth, but even worse. The budget might be lower due to Rebirth flopping, and if the budget is not lower there is a good possibility that it's even more ubisoft slop, even more brown and gay, and even more like Kingdom Hearts.
>>736144917This. I have yet to meet a single person who played Remake who also bought Rebirth. I highly doubt that number is going to grow exponentially with Retarded.
>>736112868Lies and slander
>>736101225This is not how you spell GOTY