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>"darkwell"
>"dawnwell"
if it's real, lord help whoever takes this shit seriously, or follows it at all

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Genuinely WHO gives a shit?

>>736102692
LOL

>>736102907
WE WILL NEVER BE SNEEEEEEEED

Every wow story is about cuckolding to cuck the viewer. It’s actually written by a type of alien, who had made it legal for him to take all the women, and illegal for anyone else to have any women. Then he draws pictures of cuckolding over and over and shows it to them, and calls it a video game. He got pretty creative with how he installed his monopoly on earth where he gets to own everything, he literally owns everything lol. Those aren’t real people who own stuff. Yeah basically all the humans would gang up and kill him for doing that, so he made all these guns and then he calls them incel over and over, most likely to force them to commit suicide, because they can’t win a war against him, so there’s no risk of any retaliation.

>>736102907
WoD was shit though but the cinematic is insane.

>>736102907
Two entirely different things but alright

>>736102907
wow truly died with garrosh

>>736102907
Top was made for neckbeards
Bottom was made for legbeards

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>>736102692
>Heeellooooo I aaaaaaaam Syyyyylvaaanaaaas Wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiindruuuuuuuuuuuuuuner
WTF IS THIS SHIT?

>>736102907
old wow
>basketball american being shown as heroic
new wow
>cute girl
Glad they finally decided to improve the game.

>>736102692
>Jai'llor died for this
We didn't know how good we had it bros.

As long as they tone it down on a male passing the torch to a female..

Why would anyone care about WoW's story? Even the lifers skip all cutscenes now. It was barely decent in Vanilla and has only gotten worse since

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>people care about wow lore post-legion

>>736102692
>Darkwell
>Dawnwell
I'm not saying that Sunwell was top tier fantasy writing either.

>>736111846
more like post classic

>>736112378
It went from stupid but fun to just fucking stupid.

>sunwell corrupted by void
>drop more void into it to heal it

Out of all the retarded races they added void elves are the worst.

>>736103258
Interesting.
Keep going ...

>>736106712
Actual good bait?
Here?

sylvanus is back from giga hell again?
they raped arthas soul for causing less.

>>736111846
Wows story ended when lich king died.

>>736102692
Who the fuck is playing WoW in 2026? Retards, autists, faggots and trannies?

>>736113438
40 yr old manchildren who can't let go, better part european

>>736102907
competency crisis and enshittification

Funny how little people that aren't stuck with an addiction or holding onto 20 year old memories give a shit about WoW.

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>>736113438
Broaden your imagination, anon.

>>736102692
Isn't this the 3rd time the Sunwell gets corrupted?
>Death well
>Kiljaden well
>Dark well
>Fag well
Never mind, 4 times?

>>736102692
Meanwhile ESO announced today that they removed all of their old business shit and all of the Chapters are getting added into the game through seasons for free as the DLC+ Dungeon content and they finally fucking expanded the player's stash without Premium, and premium mmounts can be bought with gold now with a proper cap because they need to get more asshole chinese dupers.
Also the devs said that if you still pay for a monthly subscription to play a game and not being able to access your character, you are a moron.

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>>736105028
Garrosh was always terrible though

>>736114757
Yes, but deleting himself from the game was probably the funniest thing in Warcraft ever.

>>736114519
the difference is, more people pay for wow than eso

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>>736114965
Because WoW players arent video game or WarCraft fans from classic up to wrath aka the OG players, they all are faggots whom's first game was literally WoW and later OW
These are the people who will defend diablo 3 because all of them were normalfags introduced to the game in cata when blizzard literally sold the game for a Dime for a while

you will never see a wowfag talk about old warcraft stuff like tesfags does and shitposts each other and are ok at the end of the day with it.
they also hate seeing other people playing other games that arent wow

in fact most of the anti skyrim and tesfags ffrom that era were wowfags seething that people quit to play wow to play Skyrim or previously, quit wow and skip all of naxx and early TBC retarded rep grinding to play Oblivion with mods.

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>>736102907
Wasn't Metzen's much-heralded return supposed to fix this?

>>736102907
im so glad they released that cinematic it reminded me not to buy it lol

>>736115429
Skyrim was and is dogshit faggot

>>736115675
Thanks for proving that anon right, wowfag.
Now go shill for the pride parade like the faggot you are

>>736102865
red shirt guy is out there, crying
it would be kinda marvel-quip funny to have someone point out that they only have X more sun-related names to go through if it keeps getting messed with

>>736115973
He is livid that WoW lore is now disney faggotry and even the RPG book and the bane of that that were the shitty comics and goldenstein books are "heckin problematic" now
Watching FF14 and WoW dying while their "tortanic" rivals are alive and well brings me joy

>>736113438
>autists
>i'm a 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20...etc... 45 y.o. night elf priest girl tee hee
>couples who met on wow and built their life around it
>hometown hero nerd, hasn't left hometown, never will
>rotating door of washed up skaterdudebros looking at old dragons to see if they're worth chasing
>mom i'm number one and can't let go
>my dad played this and i can't afford final fantasy 14 or fortnite skins
did i miss anyone?

>>736115521
I haven't even heard about him since his return, what has he been doing this whole time? I doubt hes anything more than just an advisor they ignore constantly.

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>>736102692
>Sylvanas is back
Fucking end it already. Also this voice acting is crap, why are they speaking so slowly?

HAHAHAHA WHY IS SYLVANNAS BACK HAHAHAHAHAHA

>>736116489
>>736116541
Sylvanas is the only character that still has any brand value whatsoever. They milled everyone else to death over their countless joke moments and "epic sacrifices" across WoW, Hearthstone, and Heroes of the Storm and replaced them with the most milquetoast design-by-committee "the next generation" imaginable.

>>736116541
She never left? She was banished to eternal janny duty by tyrande at the end of bfa

>>736116473
They probably keep him locked in a broom closet and occasionally slide paychecks under the door.

The fact that WoW did not set up and end on a duel between Ner'Zhul and Sargeras is the gayest shit and anyone who still cares about this brand is probably too low IQ to participate in international forums and will never read this.

>>736116678
Yeah, and I have a hard time believing she found every soul wrongfully condemned to the Jailer's keeping in the however-many-pseudo-years it's been.

>>736113550
I kinda wish to know what pact with satan blizzard did to infest europe with wow, mainly at bongisthan

>>736116874
shut up retard lmao
goofy ass fanfiction

>>736116874
Ner'Zhul the weak frail shaman vs the creator of galaxies?

>>736113438
40+ year olds

>>736117020
>still saying goofy ass
why do ugly nerds always steal from blacks on a year delay?

>>736117052
that's the deepest story left by the time WoW rolls around

>>736117052
>wanting an eternal powerscaling battle ladder because your brain is shonen-addled
the zoomer-cancer killing media

>>736102692
>blood, high, night, void and nightborne
How in the fuck are there this many flavors of elf?
Also anyone can just come in and drop whatever the fuck they feel like into the well it seems, like a big community cauldron or some shit apparently.

>>736117052
yeah instead they should keep introducing new characters and factions that are each slightly more powerful than the last until they finally introduce a girl boss who takes everything to the next level by proving sargeras was only every a little punk bitch xD

>>736116919
turns out the Jailer took incredibly detailed records of all the wrongly taken souls. He missed his calling as a bureaucrat.

>>736117264
trolls are also elves

>>736117264
all of media is now about cramming in as many Youtube Short-able Marvel moments as possible

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>hey remember that [person, place, or thing] you know about?
>well its back, for extremely lazy and poorly explained plot contrivances
>and now its barely relevant to its original intent and retroactively made worse by its current inclusion

- WoWs story for the past two decades

>>736117264
blood/high and night/nightborne are just different cultures of the same type of elf. complaining about them is like complaining that there are too many humans because they have Stormwind,Arathi/Lorderon/Kul Tiras/Dalaran/Defias humans.

>>736115521

Yeah but it turns out he spent his retirement taking estrogen and now he gets the ick from mean words like "war."

>>736102692
How long until there are no bad guys in wow? I bet that void (?) elf will be a good guy next xpcac.

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Midnight is genuinely worse than Shadowlands.

>>736102692
>umbric a void crystal
ok but... how does that help.

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>>736102692
>Arthas does evil but has no redemption
>Garrosh does evil but has no redemption
>Deathwing does evil but has no redemption
>Lei Shen does evil but has no redemption
>Azshara does evil but has no redemption
>Gul'dan does evil but has no redemption
>Kel'Thuzad does evil but has no redemption
>Raszageth does evil but has no redemption
>Jailer does evil but has no redemption
>Sargeras does evil but has no redemption
>Gallywix does evil but has no redemption
Gee. it's almost as if only females can be redeemed

>>736102692
>it may have a rainbow color effect
lmao, but of fucking course

>>736102692
>sunwell goes evil becomes dark well
Ive never played wow so genuine question when exactly did they stop giving a fuck because this is grade scholl creative writing levels of bad.

>>736117634

Illidan

>>736117634
women have more economic utility as breeding machines for more underclass men to work the mines, which has historically required gentle treatment to achieve a healthy birth

can't have you male goys forgiving each other for mistakes or you'll keep your families together

>>736102692
>the "helm of domination" got turned into the "helm of wills"
>the "sunwell" got turned into the "dawnwell"
what brilliant creative minds they have

this expansion should have seen the return of light hitler yrel so we could get more futa porn of her horsecock being rammed into every windrunner

>>736117634
>Garrosh does evil but has no redemption
he told the writers to fuck off and deleted himself from the lore. there's no greater redemption than that.

>>736117746
the final villain of heart of the swarm literally smokes a cigar, turns around on a swivel chair, pulls out a macguffin, says "i've been expecting you" and deploys a trap designed for the protagonist specifically before she gets deus ex machina'd by her love interest at the very last second

blizzard hasn't cared since before Wings of Liberty

>>736117753
what was maiev doing in legion

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>>736117746
>when exactly did they stop giving a fuck because this is grade scholl creative writing levels of bad.
2007

>>736114757
Fucking incredible webm

>dawnwell
hmm

>>736102907
The WOD cinematic is Blizzard's first bad cinematic in terms of storytelling.

>>736117291
Too often the case, a man turns into a supervillain when he could have easily made his name in accountancy.

>>736117753
As >>736117991 said, makes no sense why he went villain in BC. He was never a villain, anti-hero at worse who did nothing but avoid world ending catastrophes.

>>736117561
warcraft was always gay but now it's lame gay for women instead of cool gay

>>736117991
I hate that I liked TBC, it was so aesthetically pleasing. Every zone was so beautiful, atmospheric and so were sountrics. And made broken classes pretty strong.

But in terms of plot, it just took WC3FT ending and wiped its ass with it, ruining the story and lore forever

>>736118392
to be fair, supervillains benefit society more than accountants, they just get paid less.

>>736118450
Technically he would have flooded the planet by melting Icecrown if Malfurion hadn't stopped him

>>736118495
the biggest fuck you i remember was "oh by the way there's a totally safe faction of pretty draenai because we don't want to put an "ugly" race in the alliance".

>>736117991
the story was totally ignorable before they started doing cutscenes

>>736118595
i was so excited for eldritch warlock draenei too

>>736118595
Broken are so much cooler than the gypsies we got

>>736118834
>gypsies
worse, space kikes

>>736118546
Fuck you

>>736116678
I fucking hate the way they drop the gayesy, vaguest possible "hint" that they'll be milked again. "The Shadowlands are nothing like they seem," is a fucking wild line to drop about an expansion that we already finished.
Like what's the point of visiting these places if you're going to miss some big reveal that'll happen two expansions later anyway?

>>736117785
The "Ashbringer" got turned into the "Firetaker"

>>736115521
Only to people who didn't know that he got cucked. His daughter asked him why Sylvanas wasn't wearing full armour and now there is no tummy armour at all for example.

>>736119769
They technically gave shitvanis new tummy armor in MIDnight, but unfortunately the price was even more lgbt slop.

Can anyone give me a rundown on what happened after Arthas died? I stopped playing after wotlk.

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>>736102692
So the guy is just standing there while the stronk women are talking, huh
We need a reverse Bechdel test

>>736119546
did it actually?

>>736120000
lol same as the last four digits of your blessed post

>>736119861
ceos would literally rather live in a world filled with lesbians than deal with even one chud once

>>736120000
Checked.
>kill big bad power
>Turns out theres a new big bad power controlling them
>Kill new big bad power
>Turns out theres a new bigger and badder power controlling them
Repeat 100 times and you've entered modern WoW.

>>736120000
Sylvanas monologued about him being a big unredeemable meanie with Uther and Jaina quietly nodding behind her while his soul dissolved from existence.
That's literally it.

>>736120868
To be fair, she's got a pretty solid reason to be bitter about what he did.

>>736121220
She told Arthas how to bypass her own city's defenses.
She deserved what she got for being a dumb bitch.

>>736116372
>>rotating door of washed up skaterdudebros looking at old dragons to see if they're worth chasing
it's actually kind of incredible, these guys have to be pushing 40 at this point and they're still playing this game in an ultracompetitve manner. Same shit as it was in 2012. I only know cause my friends still play this garbage and I have exposure by osmosis. Competitive MMO people remind me of what you'd imagine stock market bulls/vesture investments would be like, except they're sitting at home hitting buttons on a keyboard

>>736120864
>>736120868
I dont get it, so either nothing really happened or too much of the same happened? I just came here to remember the good times. I didnt have time for mmos anymore and Arthas was the most interesting thing for me in warcraft anyways so iT didnt really matter. Illidan was okay too.

>>736103293
oh yeah and these latest expansions are so much better

retard

>>736121604
>so either nothing really happened or too much of the same happened
Both, nothing is ever resolved for good. Everything must have a * attached so they can squeeze more content out of it in future expansions.

>>736120000
>deathwing peepeepoopood all over the vanilla zones
>garrosh hellscream was made warchief and crafted war
>pandaria found to exist, alliance and horde go there to craft war
>garrosh rewritten to be orc hitler, defeated, then aided by a rogue bronze dragon to go back in time to draenor and stop the orcs from being corrupted
>uncorrupted orcs led by grommash hellscream chimp out at garrosh's suggestion and invade azeroth, proving every racist alliance character ever correct
>eventually they keep losing and the remaining forces take the felpill, time is a flat circle
>alternate universe gul'dan sneaks into azeroth, steals illidan's dead body, and opens a giant legion portal at the tomb of sargeras
>the emerald nightmare plotline closes with the death of xavius, we find a group of highborne that have been chilling in a bubble for 10,000 years, illidan is revived and did nothing wrong apparently, and he opens a portal to argus after getting a portal keystone from kil'jaeden (they made up some lore about demons not truly dying except in super fel'd places)
>we kill the corrupted argus world soul and the titan pantheon imprisons sargeras but not before he stabs his big honkin sword into azeroth
>azeroth's blood is apparently good for crafting war with so warchief sylvanas gets on it, starts off by burning teldrassil
>kul'tiras vs zandalar turns into nazjatar turns into old god stuff and n'zoth dies in a single patch, also a legion artifact weapon named xal'atath gets a new home (someone's body)
>sylvanas leaves the horde, girlbosses bolvar into submission and rips the helm of domination apart creating a giant rift into the afterlife
>apparently 99% of everything before this point was orchestrated by THE JAILER, the dreadlords are his minions, and he vagueposts about greater evils before dying, also they tried to expand the cosmology but everyone hated it so they're trying to retcon it
continued

>>736107586
it's not for you, weeb

>>736116473
He recently bemoaned the studio was too democratized which basically means that he is there for fake legitimacy and nothing has actually changed regardless of what the story pivot might suggest

>>736103514
One shouldn't exist

>>736120000
>>736122527
>nothing happens in dragonflight except a super proto-drake handing xal'atath the macguffin, also everyone decided not to craft war any more
>alleria (she and turalyon showed up in legion and stuck around) becomes a writer's pet and the main character against xal'atath as we kill some nerubians, some goblins, and then some ethereals
>now we're at the current expansion, xal'atath's vagueposts have come to fruition, silvermoon is under attack by the void and (You) and a bunch of paladins and priests have been called by the light itself to defend the sunwell
>continued preliminary setup for a cosmic light villain arc, zul'aman decides we're alright, some weird bat-porcupine-troll-elves who wuz here before the titans are doing some things, and the void elves continue being a writer's pet project
>arator, who was an adult in tbc, is now acting like a teenager, and after the sunwell gets corrupted makes the suggestion to petition the night elves and the silver covenant for aid
>nobody thinks to go grab the fearless shadow-resistant inexorable zombie army just to the south so everyone just goes along with arator's retardation
you are now up to speed on warcraft's story, and probably are worse off for it

>>736116617
Yep. They ruined her but since the blue haired whores they hite can't write new characters I say bring her back

>>736117634
Azshara redemption is coming

anyone have that jailer explained image
always good for a laff

>>736115521
Metzen coming back was false advertizing to keep the as much as the last of the retard neckbards around but even they arent enough to keep the game afloat. the world and its identify has been completely ruined. They only added housing in the game because they lost so many people to 14 because of it.

>>736122527
Oof, i only understood half of this, but happy to hear Bolvar is alive, i liked him since the early Onyxia quest where he solos a bunch of elites. This reads like a lot of likeable characters got raped by bad writing.
Also
>burning teldrassil
wtf? this was the best city for me, is this final or is it coming back in any way? You cant just undo a city, this is illegal.
Anyways, appreciate the somewhat hard to understand answer. I cant be arsed to read through all that lore in detail, this gives a little bit of context to some stuff i kept seeing over the years. I probably never gonna play again.
>>736123139
ty

>>736123707
>is it coming back in any way?
Nope, NE planted a new tree and were forced to let the Horde in during dragonflight lmao

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why is everything warcraft so fucking gay

>>736102907
Times change.

>>736123707
>happy to hear Bolvar is alive
He was actually pretty cool in Legion. He had a cool fucking voice and bossed the Ebon Blade around. Then in Shadowlands they changed his voice to be much worse for no particular reason. And also his daughter (introduced in BfA) whined about him not saying anything...... while he's an everburning husk, jailer of the damned, and also occasionally the non-consensual leader of the Ebon Blade. Women writers, man.
>This ready like a lot of likable characters got raped by bad writing.
You're right on target.
>is this final or ist it coming back in any way?
Teldrassil is a toasted husk but at the end of Dragonflight they got a new city (more like a village) that is much worse called Bel'ameth.

>>736123139
>fearless shadow-resistant inexorable zombie army
Who?

>>736123961
The Forsaken.

>>736102907
WoW is basically Hearthstone now, a lighthearted spinoff of itself full of gay shit and terrible humor. RIP

>succeeds in corrupting the Sunwell and turns it into the Darkwell
Jesus christ. They *pay* these writers?

Is this written by children?

>>736124045
Oh , I thougth they introduced some evil light worshippers or something lol
So the BE capital gets attacked and noone thougth of asking their neighbours that are on the same faction to help? Nice

>>736124149
God, no. The game would be rad as fuck if it was written by children. It'd be the fantasy equivalent of Axe Cop.

>>736123807
>Nope, NE planted a new tree and were forced to let the Horde in during dragonflight lmao
>>736123891
>Teldrassil is a toasted husk but at the end of Dragonflight they got a new city (more like a village) that is much worse called Bel'ameth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrHY_eqZpXk
What a joke i looked it up and even saw the video with Teldrassil burning. So the Nelves just took it then, no revenge, no crusade, no power up by rage? What a shitshow. Im outta here, appreciate the answers, i can see why people piss on this game now.

>>736124149
uhhh bro.... they REDEEM it into the DAWNwell

>>736124274
It's literally just elves and everyone who was TP'd in by the light. Nobody else. World of Elfcraft.
>>736124448
>So the Nelves just took it then, no revenge, no crusade, no power up by rage?
Tyrande went through an anime powerup thing but then she threw it away because the lead writer at the time waifu'd Sylvanas.

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whenever WoW becomes a subject in a discussion, family, friends, co-workers, etc i always say the same shit: WoW died with the Lichking.

>>736117462
>>736119769
The basedification of late gen x/early millennial men needs to be studied. Pretty much every cool dev from the late 90s-mid 2000s turned out this way.

>>736102865
Well well well

It's so fucking crazy to me that the company that is wildly left-wing, keeps on wanting to redeem the omnicidal character. Sylvanas 100% is worse than Arthas. Worse than Deathwing. Worse than Garrosh. She just wanted to kill everyone.

>>736115521
There's literally nothing Metzen can do. He's a single man against literally thousands of marketers and managers who aren't gamedevs, and probably not even gamers, but who run one of the most famous gaming companies in the world

>>736124556
WoW died when TBC released
WotLK was fucking dogshit and introduced 90% of the things people bitch about modern WoW
Take off your rose tinted glasses, faggot.

>Playing wow after Legion

It was the end of wows Story. They threw everything they had left at it and have no idea what to do after.

>>736102692
>rainbow well
They really try their uber best to make the whole game have one identity and are willing to destroy everything else about it.
>>736115521
He came back to see a council of troons running the show.

>playing WoW after Shadowlands

Anyone who does this deserves the disappointment

>>736124149
and then it turns into the dawnwell
get it? because it's a mix of light and shadow? because the writers are trying to write the light and the void as being morally gray so they are future proofing things right now so they don't have to touch this garbage later?

Guys. What if it's come full circle?
XIV and WoW have been copying each constantly for years. They chose Dawnwell because it's close to Dawntrail and we know that they're both completely fucking retarded and awful

what

>>736102907
Holy shit wow is SO bad now

>>736102692
Looks like WoW if made by Jagex

>>736102692
So the entire point of the expansion is turning the Sunwell into a rainbow

Subtle, blizzard.

>>736102692
Why do they all talk so slowly?

>>736102907
why did you pair it up with a cutscene for their mobile game

>>736126648
So the drooling retards who are still retarded enough to pay for WoW in 2026(or waste their life farming gold to stay on WoW via Token) can keep up

>>736126675
That's an official trailer for their Housing system, not a mobile game, but I can see why you'd think that

>>736126778
why didn't you pair it up with the actual cinematic for midnight?

>>736126878
Because I didn't make or post it. But honestly, given that other webm they post in the FFXIV thread of the half-blind one-armed woman of color with a shield for an arm "running" into battle with the worst fucking animations I've seen since early Myndflame works, it probably wouldn't be any better.

>>736117753
illidan hasnt done anything properly evil he just had plans that would cause incredible collateral damage but never managed to pull them off.

>>736126947
In-engine cutscenes in WoW have always sucked since the Wrathgate
The pre-rendered CGI trailers are still good

>>736126990
He drained the souls/mana out of a bunch of his comrades during the War of the Ancients, and he also fed Draenei souls to demons to gain their loyalty. He's gigaevil.

>>736127096
Draenei deserved it tbqh
there's a reason the path of glory exists

>>736124556
>muscle monster
wtf, we don't have that here? is it good?

>>736127096
>drained the souls/mana
Just use a Mana potion lmao
>fed Draenei souls to demons to gain their loyalty
They were fine. Plus, it was probably the Jailer orchestrating it the entire time, so it wasn't even his fault, really.

>>736117746
TBC was pretty much just as awful lore wise.
They introduce their holy light bulb god conduit things and in the same expansion they invert it and turn it dark.
And when you open such a can of worms you can pretty much flip everything around.

>>736127096
it was for a good cause.

>>736103293
WoD was considered the worst it could get at that point, shows how bad things have gotten

>>736102692
>>736102865
>>736102907
Thank fuck I never got into WoW. I liked Warcraft 2 & 3 but I'd be mortified if I was more invested.

You guys attending the official pride event?

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>>736102907
>allykeks seething that the housing trailer wasn't about them

>>736122527
>>736123139
It started to go to shit with BC when they decided killing off Illidan was a good idea among other stupid shit like BEs in the Horde or Draeneis as a whole.
Definitely went to a no turning back point with Cata shitting up every zones to turn them into pop-culture ref-fest, like Uldum which was basically a giant fucking Indiana Jones parody.

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nothing even happened what the fuck
wow is so fucking gay

>>736128412
>BEs in the Horde
Honestly the way they were characterized in TBC was kino.
>mind controlling dissenting citizens
>torturing a na'aru to siphon its power
>sweatshop slaves
>kill amaniggers behead amaniggers roundhouse amaniggers into the concrete
They threw this away later in the expansion but for a time they were cool. Now they're red high elves. At least someone on the dev team realizes that was a mistake given that they didn't try to whitewash Astalor at all, and also how the non-alleria or umbric void elves act at times

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>>736128159

Rainbow =\= gay you fags
Wow has been shit for years btw

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>>736128734
turn that frown upside down!

>corrupted Sunwell
Didn't this happen like 20+ years ago in Frozen Throne?

>>736121604
They wrote him out of the story, the wrote him out of all possible stories. They really, really, never wanted to revisit him outside of flashbacks or other characters talking about him. Part of the reason for this is likely because they fired Christie Golden who ruined him in the first place, letting him stay dead and gone was honestly a service to the rest of us.

>>736129330
Yes and it happened again in TBC and then again in Legion.

>>736129537
Wow, Blizz is even more devoid of creativity than I thought.

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>>736102692
All they do is crib from XIV in the lamest, gayest, most californian millennial way possible

Why why fucking why??? Your base game is so far beyond xiv it literally can never catch up and all you do is fucking shoot yourself in the foot constantly trying to copy it without understanding literally anything about it

>>736129854
ESO announced today that they ditched all of the shit they copied from wow and are going with the money making shit that is fallout 76 seasons
And all Chapters + DLC will now be part of the game

>>736102692
aren't like all those characters that fix the problem female?

>>736130006
Umbric isn't. But it's possible that he dances on the other side of Silvermoon. If you know what I mean.

>>736129987
Has ESO dropping animation cancelling and reworked its horrendous combat system yet

>>736129987
ESO combat is just too floaty for me, it feels like combat is just watching health bars go down with no real action
Did they make reagent storage not aids for free players?

>>736102692
>turns it into the faggotwell
And then everyone clapped

>>736130247
yes they are doing that since a new combat overhaul is in the plans, and the game will now be more focused on getting more single player and community experience, so... More Dunmer ERP Slavering guilds

>>736130581
They announced that they are expanding the non gold sub stash for players so it isnt a hurdle anymore, still unlimited space is behind sub, but now it wont be a shitty experience for returning or new players.
in terms they are copying everything 76 is doing nowadays

>>736130673
Awesome, I'll give it another try once I've got more free time

>>736117634
Garrosh did nothing wrong thoughbeit?

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WE are ALL attending this event, right?

>>736102907
will dogshit quirky comedy bits in media ever die

>>736102692
>>736102865
>The Sunwell
>corrupts into
>The Darkwell
>purifies into
>The Dawnwell
>grows into
>The Brunchwell
>rots into
>The Badwell
>has a change of heart into
>The Swellwell

wowtroons be like
>i play wow i'm BASED and REDPILLED

>>736109956
Silly bastard

>>736131435
I like the sound of the swellwell, can we call it the swell for short?

>>736102692
So i've been reading about the sunwell and it says the reason it has "sun" in the name is because it was named after the guy who infused it with light.
Who is this dawnwell named after and why are they adding void spice into it{

>>736121685
QA wise is probably the worst the game has been but their content pipeline feels better. They are still having delays like the dark troll zone which released on launch of this xpack but levels up your previous expansion professions. But compared to WoD it is probably better, there was so much shit cut from WoD and huge delays through the middle. WoD launch was probably the worst in the history of the game I think.

>>736102907
>Grom could have originally moved away from the explosion instead of dying heroically
lmao

I've never been glader to have dropped my wow addiction

>>736132156
For the rainbow of course
Void lives matter

>>736120864
why are you talking about xiaxia story in WoW thread

>>736102692
Warcraft 3 chad here, I consider all MMO lore to be for retards and non-canon.
So who are these people? And wasn't the sunwell already corrupted by Arthas resurrecting Kel'Thuzad? Is "Shandris" the chick you play in the night elf campaign? Name sounds familiar. Or was that the prison keeper chick? What the fuck is a void elf or nightborn elf.

>>736132986
>So who are these people
No one of consequence.
>And wasn't the sunwell already corrupted by Arthas resurrecting Kel'Thuzad
Yes. It got better. Then worse. Then better. Then worse. Then better.
>Is "Shandris" the chick you play in the night elf campaign
No, that's Tyrande, but Shandris shows up in WC3. The prison keeper is Maiev.
>What the fuck is a void elf or nightborn elf
Extra elfy elves.

>>736111846
That whole “I am my scars” bullshit still festers in my head rent-free. I have never ever seen such a swift destruction of all narrative structure and consistency than in that moment. Everything changed when the light just became ‘yellow void’ in some cliche whitewashed yinyang bullshit. It only got worse and worse from there. It’s amazing how strong legion was as an expansion until the very end.

>>736132986
MMO lore is canon you coping cuck

>>736133342
Not it ain't, I've never played wow. I can just disregard it.

>>736131967
Swellwell Plateau

>A bunch of women all get together to stop an evil woman and then they have a baby shower together and make a rainbow just in time for pride month ;)
Women and faggy men were a mistake

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>>736102692
>Diversity tranny well
Warcraft is dead
Retail cucks will defend this

>>736134431
Classic cucks will defend this too, you're all part of the fucking problem faggots. stop playing the fucking game. atleast stop paying blizzard the fucking subfee for CRUMBS of a supposed new gameplay experience dressed in classic flavour.

>>736134834
classic fags are giga cuckolds, they enjoy sitting in their little classic corner watching the rape happen before their eyes

>>736134834
>>736137762
Why care about what happens in retoilet? Not my problem.

>>736102692
Who is still playing this shit

>>736138156
You directly fund retail with your cuckbucks

>>736138419
So? How does that affect me?

cant wait for the fagwell

>>736138447
Classic is turned gay and trans (you will deny this because you are a gay retard)

>>736138529
>2 more weeks
lol ok

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>>736138639
already happened gay retard
see yourself out

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>>736102907
What happened?

>>736138792
lmao the fucking character creation screen? that's what i'm supposed to be angry about?

>>736138447
it affects you because you're dumb retard cattle that funds the very downfall of the world he once beheld. you're actually making it worse for everyone by funding the game and keeping it on life support.

do everyone a fucking favor and grow a fucking spine and some standards retard. there are so many private classic server options that you paying for shit makes you even dumber then the retail cucks.

>>736138870
bad faith post, you are obviously a faggot defending your precious fag game

>>736138876
>but they're making retail worse!
i don't care. i stopped playing retail years ago. it's not my problem.

>>736138974
you are still playing and paying for retail. you are a cucked loser.

>>736115521
metzen is fully cucked

>>736139057
But i'm not playing retail. Are you illiterate?

>>736139101
you are. typical body type 1 post.

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>>736102692
If you're still playing WoW, past Arthas' death, and you're complaining about it's current state of the game and it's lore.... you only have yourself to blame.

>>736139101
you're still paying for it. and thats what makes you a fucking retard. how many times do we have to iterate that you paying a sub keeps retail alive.

Dumb nigger cattle.

>>736118450
Because that was Jeff Kaplan's expansion and he was determined to erase 98% of WoW and replace it with raid-centric PvE content to the detriment of everything else. He was gutted when Blizz had to make public: only 25% of players who got to max level in Vanilla ever saw Ragnaros, only 10% who got to level 70 in TBC even went inside Black Temple. Kaplan had appropriated so many resources to destroying WoW as a dev the same way he had as a toxic raiding guild leader in Everquest, it's amazing they salvaged enough to make WoTLK, but Kaplan's hands were taken off the wheel.

>>736139248
i don't care if retail is alive. why should i care about a game i have no intention of ever playing ever again?

The only people I know who still play WoW only play WoW and other grindslop games like seasonal ARPGs. It's kinda sad. Like... they know there are other games right? That aren't just FOMO resets over and over?

>>736139301
gay retard post

>>736139353
I accept your concession

>>736102907
Fuck, I wish I still had my copy of warcraft 3, will check the bay, see if there a clean version there.

>>736139385
we already know you're a fucking retard bro we atleast know you admitted to that.

>>736130982
If everyone is trolling.

>>736139435
>NOOO YOU NEED TO HECKING CARE ABOUT THIS GAME YOU DON'T PLAY! BECAUSE UH...YOU JUST FUCKING DO OK
not
my
problem

>>736133342
It isn't, because they haven't explained how the Orc runes on Frostmourne and Lich-King armour 'came from the Maw' or how Ajol-Nerubian architecture that inspired Ner'zhul's design of the Scourge structures came from the Shadowlands also. Also they are somehow Saronite, the ore created from the blood of Yogg-Saron, despite Ner'zhul transmuting them into being from the demonic ice crystal he was trapped in, which comes from the Twisting Nether that the Old Gods are the planar-opposites to. Also, they were made in the Shadowlands by the Dreadlords.
This contradictory horse-shit can never be canon.

>>736114156
this isnt real right
they didnt do a fucking patrick s tomlinson style "NO STALKER CHILD YOU ARE THE SMALL MINDED" advertisement
right?

>>736114156
christ, this was supposed to be an own.

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just got aotc with the boyz. onto mythic next week.

We've been playing turtle wow instead mostly

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>>736115521
>metzen comes back
>everything just gets corrupted again

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imagine playing retail

>>736102692
So gay, too many females on the Warcraft team.

But people told me that by midnight metzen had full control?!

>>736102692
the only way this rainbow well can work is if the faggot troll pride event ends with all attendants getting thrown into it as a ritual sacrifice

try not to criticize wow without being disingenuous as fuck challenge: impossible

I'm too busy poopsocking eq p1999 to care

>>736102692
oh.

>>736141391
wow is gay, therefore you are gay for playing it

>>736102907
Bottom is indisputably pussification of the series but I still like the visuals and its what the graphics should be upgraded to.

>>736102692
I barely care and neither do the writers

>>736102907
competency crisis. panning shots and slow stills with overwatch graphics are easy to make

>>736102692
>gaywell

>>736114156
looks like shit

>>736119769
Oh it gets even better, his daughter in a later AMA would go on to say that never even happened and she wouldn't have been allowed to play the game at that age. He made that all up.

>p-p-please come play turtle wow..
>aah.. i.. im so hungry.. p-please..
>all of us.. we.. we're all here
>*shows dusty, empty chairs*

>>736115521
I was honestly expecting better writing for the "world soul series" to be a bit better but it has been as inept as it has been. I mean Midnight is not as nearly as boring as DF or TWW but its not great either.

>>736141391
Your gay pozz game looks like shit

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>dusty empty chairs in question

>>736139785
>>736140772
based
ps: your ingame radio rocks

what do people even do in wow these days
my friends dragged me back for war within and it just felt so empty
you hit max level in a day and then get "hero" gear in another couple and then everything grinds to a halt and either you do turbosperg gigafaggot mythic raids made for zoomers on adderall or you get one single piece of gear per week
and there's nothing to even do with that gear besides the same shit you already did but with bigger number

>>736139785
>>736140772
>>736142474
I thought turtle wow was kill?

>>736124520
>Tyrande went through an anime powerup thing but then she threw it away because the lead writer at the time waifu'd Sylvanas.
I think you're underselling it.
Didn't Elune take away the powerup when Tyrande tried to use it against Sylvanas because Elune (who it turns out is a robot and not a goddess at all, further cucking the night elves) apparently likes Sylvanas more than her high priestess who has served her for ~12,000 years? This was after powered up Tyrande and Malfurion got solo'd by Danuser's self-insert, of course.

It's insane how hard the entire writing team has had an unrestrained hatred for the night elves (unless they're named Illidan sometimes) since TBC. Every single time they have a chance to be cool in a way that makes sense they get utterly blown the fuck out no matter how ridiculous or nonsensical it is. And they're Schrodinger's wise, ancient elf race where they have to be "above" petty revenge when it suits the writers (i.e. when they should wipe out the orcs), but they're never wise and ancient enough to actually have any input and will be portrayed as weirdly petty (usually for entirely justified reasons) when the writers want them to be seen in a bad light. It's fucking stupid. There's dozens of examples of night elves just getting casually fucked over for literally no reason even if they're morally, logically, and dramatically correct.

>>736139420
just play the starcraft 2 version. the whole campaign has been ported now.

>>736143260
even vanilla night elves are a pale shadow of WC3
but yes nearly every interesting thing that could have been done with them was utterly squandered

the thing I was most pissed off was honestly during Cata, all the story elements were there to have a genuine full blown civil war between the various NE factions set up, which in turn would have seamlessly flown into the Horde storyline at that time with Garrosh taking advantage of this instability to drastically expand his reach

but then just nothing came off of it

>>736141861
>happily pays $15 a month to Microsoft for Ai R&D

>>736102692
MMOC leaks have always been fanfics.

>>736131435
What about Second-BreakfastWell

>>736111846
Legion was fun but the story went to shit the moment varian died. Everyone talking in ominous marvel quips was so annoyingly bad.

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>>736134196
Don't forget the emasculated cuck they brought along with them. Been a member of the Silver Hand for thirty years, son of one of the first Paladins, doesn't actually know what a Paladin is.

>>736143260
>because Elune (who it turns out is a robot and not a goddess at all
We don't really know that, still haven't seen her. The one bitch in Shadowlands claims to be her sister, but who knows. We do know that Elune is the lesbo lover of Eonar and that Amun'thul is a heckin' chud who wouldn't let them be together or something stupid like that.

>>736102692
>all important characters are women now
>sylvanas is back again
Fucking hell.

>>736131102
Not with 40 year old women who browse reddit making things.

>>736115521
What was he even thinking? Like genuinely, why would he ever do that? It's literally like escaping a house on fire and then randomly deciding to head back in again for no reason whatsoever. He knew blizzard is dead. Or maybe he's just like Kaplan, who still manages to praise and fallate blizzard on every chance he gets, despite what they've done to him at the end, like some weird stockholm syndrome victim

>>736149206
They offered him money.

>>736102907
Cute elf

>>736149206
? its free money and he doesnt have to do shit.

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>>736149358
>>736149886
>money
And what about your dignity? Honor as a man and a creator? Your reputation and the way you'll be remembered? Crazy how you can just buy peoples souls, even worse when it happens to the people you used to be a huge fan of

>>736150682
Everyone has a price, some people just pretend they don't because nobody gives a shit to buy them.

>>736113550
>better part european
No

>>736117150
>why do ugly nerds
that's what you are, stop projecting

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>le everyone has le price!! bazinga
>and I'm definitely not coping and projecting because I'm a defeatist honorless sellout crybaby cuckold

>>736102907
>badass looking knight takes off her helm at the end of the journey
>turns out to be cute girl
>she does a cute dance
>gets teleported, on to her next adventure
TRVE LVDOKINO

>>736120780
>ceos would literally rather live in a world filled with lesbians than deal with even one chud once
You're retarded and wrong

Anyone wanna talk about how absolutely jarring the AI voice acting is during questing this xpack

>no one can escape from the maw
>Except strong independent women!
A bit on the nose blizzard

>>736153091
no because nobody here bought into menopausal. when even the cinematic is low effort gurlboss sewage treatment plant you just know the xpac is going to be just that and don't buy

>>736142125
>DISCORD REQUIRED
maybe i should go play other games instead

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>>736115521
having a daughter made his dick fall off

>>736132590
how was some dumbshit orc supposed to know that demons explode like voltorbs

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>>736153812
GAMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERS
WE MUST BE BETTER MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN

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>>736146898
>entire quest dedicated to taking arator, whos like 50 years old or some shit at this point, through the chapel of the holy light
>every dialogue on examining the relics of past paladins is "WTF PALADINS DONT JUST KILL RAPE AND MURDER THINGS??????????"
>acts shocked when the light can be used for le bad like the scarlets havent been around in canon since the end of the third war
>tries to make turalyon feel bad for being angry and wrathful that a bunch of green niggers hopped up on demon blood killed his mentor and father figure
dont even get me started on the shit they've done to zul'jin

>>736154473
a friend of mine talked me into playing midnight since xiv is a mess and i haven't played wow in like 10 years,i thought dawntrail's quest were fuckin awful but i dont know how blizzard managed to easily make something worse

>>736115521
Isn't he basically one of THEM now? Like he now wished the series didn't have "War" in it's name?

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>>736118450
>>736126990
>>736139263
Nope, Illidan was always evil in Warcraft 3.
He willingly joins and works for Kil'Jaeden of his own accord in exchange for reward. He's fighting the Lich King because The Devil is contractually employing him to do so.
People thinking BC retconned Illidan to be evil has always been retarded.

>expansion has 1 raid

>>736146898
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oRiWJWXVPM

>>736115429
WoW is shit but Skyrim is was and always will be absolutely dogshit lmao.

>>736102692
cute hug

>>736155193
Sure blizzdrone
SUUUUUUUUUUURE

btw buy the brontosaur too

>>736138639
>>736138870
>that never happened
>posts proof
>YOU PATHETIC FAGGOT WHY DID YOU POST PROOF IT DOESN'T COUNT

Why is the leftist 4chan bot a narcissist too.

>>736107683
>Jai'llor
was his full goverment name Jainnifer Llorpez or something and it's shortened to Jai'llor or something?

>>736111846
>people care about wow lore post-warcraft 3
ftfy

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>WoW is a living corpse wrapped in gay flags
>XIV committed sudoku
>the rest of MMOs are somehow even worse

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>>736150682
>Your reputation and the way you'll be remembered
you're obviously too young to comment on these things, so don't
metzen was reviled when he was in charge. he was the butt of every joke. he was past his prime and washed even when he was in charge back in cata or whenever.
but for some fucking REASON, these boomer idiots who still play this god forsaken game believe that even metzen, the soi ridden shell of what was once a half decent writer, can write something better than the drivel of today
tldr: shut up about metzen, he's not changing shit for the better

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>>736155112
>...Uther the... Lightbringer?
He also says that he doesn't know shit about King Anasterian Sunstrider, even though Arator was probably about 20 when Anasterian died and he would have known Arator personally (the Windrunner family being a very prominent noble family among the Elves, and Arator being the son of one of their greatest heroes and nephew of their Ranger General).
>Your knowledge of the land shall be great!

>>736121604
Too much of nothingburger happened

>>736156915
What's a paladin?

>>736102692
I don't recognize any of those names.

>>736146898
The fuck is that hair style?

>>736158730
The "Reverse Samurai".

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>>736158730
That's a trailer park special.

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>>736146898
>Arathor acts like an angsty teen
>When he's like fucking 40 at this point
It's kind of like the women writers wanted to have an angsty teen drama (because that's all they ever read), and they saw that Alleria and Turalyon had a kid, and they were probably like
>he's a kid, right? Let's have him have a bunch of angsty teen drama with his parents
without realizing that he's well fucking past that by this point
But I guess it doesn't matter, because the woman writers need their angsty teen drama

>>736161093
Doesn't really matter, nobody is paying attention to this shit anymore. Lorefags just openly mock the story, and no one else ever cared to begin with.

>>736161719
yeah because no self respecting man should be playing this faggot ass game for faggots anymore