[a / b / c / d / e / f / g / gif / h / hr / k / m / o / p / r / s / t / u / v / vg / vm / vmg / vr / vrpg / vst / w / wg] [i / ic] [r9k / s4s / vip] [cm / hm / lgbt / y] [3 / aco / adv / an / bant / biz / cgl / ck / co / diy / fa / fit / gd / hc / his / int / jp / lit / mlp / mu / n / news / out / po / pol / pw / qst / sci / soc / sp / tg / toy / trv / tv / vp / vt / wsg / wsr / x / xs] [Settings] [Search] [Mobile] [Home]
Board
Settings Mobile Home
/v/ - Video Games


Thread archived.
You cannot reply anymore.


[Advertise on 4chan]


World record holder changes the rules to prevent the #2 guy from beating his record
>>
>comments turned off
kek
>>
>>736105295
>TAS
you didin't speedran it
>>
>>736105502
>retard can't understand context
retard
>>
Keyboard should not be allowed period. It's fucking retarded it's even allowed in the first place. Tetris runners don't do it, other NES games don't allow it, and a platformer like SMB definitely should not allow it.
>>
>>736106238
>Keyboard should not be allowed period
what's the context here? why would input method matter if it's a TAS?
>>
Which one is Republican and which one is Democrat in this situation?
>>
>>736105295
I don't think I'm psychologically capable of caring any less.
>>
>>736105295
Speedrun.com is total horseshit, every single leaderboard is moderated by some crazy narcissist that ensures only he and his friends can be on top.
If you take that site seriously you're an idiot
>>
>>736106360
It's not a TAS run
>>
>>736105295
speedtrooning was a mistake
>>
>>736105295
Who are "they"?
>>
>>736106473
>Which one is Zionist and which one is Zionist in this situation?
>>
>>736105295
>woman with power is the cause of all this drama
they will never learn
>>
>>736105295
Speedrunning is the gayest fucking hobby to ever exist. Literally sucking a dick would be less gay.
>>
>>736106637
>capitalizing z*o scum
>>
>>736106579
The singular person in the #1 spot.
>>
>>736106473
Well Nifski has a red pic and averge a rainbow one soooo
>>
>>736106360
He's not TASing, he's working to tie with the TAS
>>
File: 1771323918581725.gif (1.75 MB, 320x214)
1.75 MB
1.75 MB GIF
>>736105295
Trannies are powertripping narcissists?
>>
>>736105295
is this guy is bitching about the community not counting it if he uses a keyboard?
i thought speedrunners only count shit if it's run on original hardware
>>
File: 1732385213756.jpg (159 KB, 2000x1000)
159 KB
159 KB JPG
>Billy Mitchell cheated because he played on emulator and used a different joystick. Now I have to ruin his life.
>This absolute legend just smashed the Super Mario Bros. record on emulator and keyboard. This is the greatest achievement in gaming history.
Why the double standard?
>>
File: 1748606123199221.jpg (173 KB, 601x665)
173 KB
173 KB JPG
>>736105295
I'm not watching this queer's video, can one of you trillion bots infesting this site be useful and summarize it for me? Thanks.
>>
>>736105295
I love how they call cheats "tool assisted" lmao.
>>
>>736106897
>>736107004
He's complaining that they banned controller swapping between an actual NES controller and a keyboard, basically he thinks the leaderboard mods are trying to sabotage his runs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9Kx0kw6Iq0
>>
>>736107004
I was mildly curious so i did a quick look, he summarizes at the start
>community allows control swapping (switching between controller and keyboard controls mid-run)
>recently decided to ban it
>he thinks it was a targeted decision and says he has evidence
Didnt see the rest yet.
>>
>>736106531
Thats not true, if you beat their scores then you will be on top.
>>
>>736106238
He's competing against TAS which is a preprogramed run. This is a different category entirely from the NES + OG controller runs.
>>
>>736107147
>>736107104
I know nothing about nes mario speedruns but I don't need to watch a video to know he's right and also that it doesn't matter.

The speedrun.com boards are a joke, a bunch of power and credit hungry faggots abusing their positions to exert control over the board times.

If you care at all about any individual game's runs chances are you know a run that kicks the shit out of the number 1 board time.

Fuck, man, the God Hand speedrun boards were literally purged and replaced with a hundred cheating BR's. JP runners with like ten years of grinding out the categories just mysteriously disappeared from the list.
>>
>>736107147
not like i give a shit about speedrunning or the troon schizos that do it, but that should be a different category.
doing it on og hardware and doing it in an emulator with a keyboard that let's you do more inputs more rapidly are two very different things.
>>
>>736107294
1. No it isn't. It's basically any% on an individual level basis in order to achieve the best possible time for each level, aka "tying TAS" in an IL.
2. How does that somehow allow the use of a keyboard in a speedrun?
>>
>>736107161
>Oh no sorry this rule change means you're dq'd
>Oh no sorry I lost the file can you resend it :^)
>Yeah no I'll get to moderating the run you submitted real soon (approves three of his friend's runs)
Speedrun.com is dog shit
>>
>>736107535
>How does that somehow allow the use of a keyboard in a speedrun?
Because the rules said it was allowed. Hope this helps
>>
>>736107550
Did you really just make believe this scenario to get mad over? Mental illness
>>
>>736107004
>Dude got 6 world records on SMB1
>A tranny managed to steal one by 0.02 frames
>Tranny spends forever malding and forces a rule change in a conspiracy against the dude in the OP because he just can’t fucking beat him
>Video is proof of all that rigged shit manipulated by the tranny
>>
>>736105295
They targeted a gamer. A GAMER!
>>
>>736107628
I'm saying it shouldn't be allowed period. I don't care what some corrupt and clearly power-hungry leaderboard mods have to say about it. No other NES game allows for keyboard, SMB1 shouldn't either. It's pretty obvious they allowed it to give themselves an advantage anyways. Not a coincidence they went back to ban controller swapping after they started losing their top spots.
>>
>>736105438
whyd this methed out kike do it?
>>
>>736107707
Anon are you retarded?
You clearly have no experience with this, why are you tying your ego to this garbage can of a website?
>>
>my TAS
>my
>TAS
>>
>>736108023
There's a speedrun.com shill/troll in this thread, likely to spread false info and to control the narrative in their favor before it gets too out of hand.
>>
>>736107768
>>736107768
Good summary, for a slightly longer one
>The fastest speedrunners have optimised the game so much that they are frames away from "tying the TAS"
> to do that requires tying the final level down to the frame, which requires like a million consecutive frame perfect inputs which is humanly impossible to do on keyboard, unless you use weird binds.
>averge (current WR holder) couldn't figure out a way to consistently do it using just a keyboard
>Niftski (previous WR holder) could and became insanely consistent at it seemingly overnight, tying the TAS final level over 100 times when most other guys have never even done it more than once.
>Niftski had a special set up that involved switching between keyboard and NES controller which was permitted by the rules - the mods even voted specifically in favour of it a few months prior
>averge starts seething that Niftski is about to beat his WR for good so blackmails some mods and gets his gf to sweettalk some others into creating a new vote to get the controller swap rule banned
>The vote passes in favour of the ban and averge is on record celebrating and slandering Niftski shortly after
It's all highly autistic but averge is definitely the scummy one here
>>
>>736108570
You shouldn't be allowed to use a keyboard for an NES run
>>
>>736108570
What a scumbag. I'd be lying if I didn't say that Niftski being able to do something so absurdly difficult that consistently isn't suspicious - but then again, SMB1 speedrunners are a different breed. It's like a 5-minute run and they live and breathe that shit, so it isn't impossible.
>>
>>736106919
>Billy Mitchell
who? I'm not keeping track of your trannies
>>
>>736109050
Same mentally ill people who care about """normal""" speedruns
>>
>>736108921
Not him but you can just make a new category for the controllers, they love doing that shit

>>736108948
Averge managed to beat the record, even if like 0.02 frames, he could do it, if it was getting stolen then all he had to do was git gud. Otherwise might as well people should just take down his record and have Niftski keep it, who was actually about to recover it pretty much
>>
Isn’t it like a new category now, and the old record isn’t even shown on the list. I don’t get this. How is this sabotaging his record attempt?
>>
>>736105295
TAS is pure faggot shit. I hope that this guy gets fucked hard because it is not playing the game in any way so he should never even be allowed to be recognized for whatever this shit is.
>>
>>736109050
I care more about TAS runs than actual speedruns, yes we are out there. Theoretical time is much more interesting than some guy playing the same game over and over. But the OP is more about an actual run anyways.
>>736109186
The ban is for any% too, so he's not allowed to swap control methods in any category anymore.
>>736109308
It's not a TAS run, retard
>>
>>736109372
>My TAS Tie progress
TAS is not TAS? You are retarded.
>>
>>736108921
True but averge was advocating to allow the use of keyboards on original consoles so he could play at live events.
>>
>>736109446
It's a normal run with an attempt to tie TAS, aka be the best. Stop being a retarded faggot
>>
>>736106919
I recall there was a consensus that "NES emulation is super accurate and trivial so we'll allow it", but even recent videos on SMB1 specifically are admitting that extremely accurate emulation is needed for arbitrary code execution scenarios.

https://youtu.be/bNulp6cDqUU
tl;dw is Famicom Disk System PPU register emulation needed to be perfect to recreate console verified ACE exploits that are only possible due to how the FDS handles soft-resets compared to Famicom cartridge games.
They found a hyper-specific exploit that requires going into the Famicom Disk System variation of minus world, and using second quest and 2-player mode specifically because of goombas being replaced with buzzy beetles.

Have you seen 100th Coin's videos on NES emulation? They are fucking insane, and he got involved in figuring out ACE in SMB1 FDS and updating his NES emulator to match real hardware in this scenario.
>>
>retards think he was TASing
Why is /v/ so fucking dumb
>>
>>736109308
>>736109446
Watch the video fucking retard
>>
>>736109308
Brown behavior.
>>
>>736108960
The short answer is he was famous for being pretty good at an arcade game decades ago. There's plenty more misadventures around him, but that's the main one.
>>
>SUPER MARIO BROS SPEEDRUN DRAMA
Thats almost 40 people worldwide, this is HUGE.
>>
>>736105502
Came here to post this
Who TF actually cares
Its like asking AI to speedrun your game. Its fucking retarded.
>>
>>736105295
I watched the video, at least two of them are trannies, trying to keep the white man down.
>>
>>736105295
>Niftski
None of his records are legit. Pick up a controller, cheater.
>>
>>736109671
I wouldnt be surprised if they hate the guy because his profile pic kinda looks like a chud wojak.
>>
>>736105502
I'm pretty sure its about him tying the TAS aka being a human that matches the TAS. Mario 1 has been very close to it for a long time with frames being shaved off all the time.
>>
>>736109661
Are you fucking inbred?
>>
>>736105295
who fucking cares
>>
>>736109754
It's more simple than that retard. They hate him because he's better and more popular.
>>
>>736109671
Niftski is a based white /fit/chad designed to make trannies seethe
>>
>>736109798
it's literally one speedrun.com fag attempting to misdirect
>>
File: file.png (499 KB, 1280x720)
499 KB
499 KB PNG
>>736105295
I WAS A VICTIM
I SNAPPED
>>
>>736108074
What, do you think a computer creates it on its own? They're all manual inputs made by someone.
>>
>>736107147
I mean, if they ban it, surely they wiped the WR that were achieved with that method right?
>>
>>736108921
Yeah, they fucked up when they allowed it the first time.
>>
>>736109826
Lots of people do, I’m writing a comment on speedrun forum right now.
>>
>>736110053
No.
>>
>>736106238
I don't get it can't you just cut your real dpad so you can press left and right at the same time?
>>
>>736109728
He literally has done races in live events on a controller and won.
>>
>>736110379
WHAT
He learned how to play with a controller?!?!
That's unfair to me!!!!!!!!
I ONLY use a keyboard THEREFORE keyboards should be ALLOWED at live events!!!!!
>>
>>736109661
You don't actually know how a TAS is built, do you?
>>
>>736110272
Anon that's not how a dpad works, even if you did that it would not register both inputs.
>>
Here's my idea to fix every sped autist problem
>Want to play game a certain way
>Create your own category and ruleset
>Play the game the way you want to play it
Wow that was hard
>>
>>736110272
I don't actually know if hardware modifications can force two inputs with that method, but the intention from the original developers is that you can't press both left and right or up and down at the same time on original hardware, so it shouldn't be allowed.

The reason I think keyboard is dumb is because you're removing the original controller from the equation entirely, which was not the intended play method either. I think only official controllers should be allowed, nothing third party. There's a reason you can use two directional input methods in an NES TAS, and it's because it bypasses the controllers limitations.
>>
>>736106238
Basically every NES speedrun allows emulators and whatever you want as input.
>>
>>736111036
Okay, I'll create 250 different categories that all have the stipulation that you have to be me to compete.
Holy shit now I can claim I'm the best speedrunner in the world because I hold record in the majority of categories!
>>
>>736111074
>Basically every NES speedrun allows emulators and whatever you want as input.
(but only for certain games, where using keyboard benefits specifically the top players that make the rules)
>>
>>736111216
Technically, nothing is stopping Niftski from just continuing playing by his own rules, and is excluded from the leaderboard. I don't think the majority of his viewers or SMB1 community members would care, and would still consider him the "unofficial" record holder if the moderators decisions don't get reversed.
>>
>open video
>conspirators have the most obvious tranny voice modulation
Yeah Niftski is in the right.
>>
>>736111216
That’s already a thing, never seen the Minecraft speedruns?
>What version? Java, bedrock, a console?
>What update? From 1.0.0.0 to 27.3 and whatever other fucking list
>Is it a seeded world or a new one?
>What challenge? From beating the game to just fucking baking a cookie or taming X animal

>>736111639
Niftski holds 5 records and Avenge is 100% getting banned and getting his record stripped so that makes it 6
>>
>>736112118
If the video is the truth, and it looks very believable, he definitely deserves a ban but removing the time that was done legitimately seems too much.
>>
>>736112118
>That’s already a thing, never seen the Minecraft speedruns?
This, lol. That dudes jaw will drop when he finds out how many category extensions SM64 has.
>>
>>736112279
I’m not going to be surprised if someone watches Avenge video like a super autist and finds out that the cheated because he only managed to win by 0.02 frames
>>
>>736110720

That's eactly how it works and if you have an old and worn Dpad you can get accidental left/right presses without even meaning to.
>>
File: 1746039388522643.png (83 KB, 1127x895)
83 KB
83 KB PNG
>>736106919
>Emulators not allowed in the competition Mitchell cheated in
>Emulators allowed in the competition Niftski competes in
gee that was hard
>>
>>736106919
In Silly Bitchell's case emulators were explictly banned from the contest.
>>
>>736112507
>>736112659
He's moreso pointing out the inconsistency in speedrunning leaderboards in general, and it's why this whole speedrun.com shit is retarded.

Imagine if the SMB1 mods had authority over Donkey Kong speedruns, they would 100% allow emulator and keyboard. And if the Donkey Kong mods had authority over SMB1, they would be puritans and say that official controllers/hardware is allowed only. That's why this whole thing is stupid.

Sure, play by the rules - but who sets those rules exactly, and why should we follow specifically theirs? Because they were the ones who ended up with the speedrun website domain?
>>
>>736112423
Yup, and in Super Mario Kart speedrunning they allow players to sand off a piece of plastic under the d-pad to make L+R inputs easy to do. They allowed it because some faggots were playing on their controllers for thousands of hours and naturally sanded off that plastic, resulting in having an advantage while playing. So to level off the playing field, they allowed this modification instead of banning worn controllers.
>>
>>736106919
>he played on emulator and used a different joystick.
He did that then tried to pass it off as running on original, untampered hardware. That's the crux of it, it's like swapping an engine in your car then signing up for a race meant for stock cars without telling anyone about your mods.
>>
>>736112748
That reminds me of how you have to have a grimed up/dirty SpongeBob BFBB disc so you can perform lag clips easier. If I'm remembering correctly, the way they got around it was that you are only allowed to do speedruns on the game pre-downloaded to your Xbox. It's a good workaround in that case, but I imagine it's a bit more difficult to try and come up with a solution that involves original hardware that unintentionally gives shitty controllers a greater advantage.
>>
So, which faggot (all people who speedrun seriously are faggots) has the WR with only the original controller?
>>
>>736113481
None of those two, it’s the third place, Lekuke who uses controller only
>>
>>736105502
TASes are the only valid speedruns
>>
>>736113658
A human being playing the game is preferable to software specifically made to play that game.
>>
>>736113332
And that reminds me of the Final Fantasy speedruns that involves putting the NES on a hotplate to fuck with the memory
>>
File: 1759668062485351.gif (1.3 MB, 255x192)
1.3 MB
1.3 MB GIF
Finished watching the video. Holy shit, this is some petty high school-tier drama. Averge, a tranny who is current WR holder, is spiteful towards the 2nd place runner Nitfski who is a gym bro bench pressing 225lbs. The tranny is very displeased with the fact that they have gender dysphoria while the gymbro is proud of being born with a penis. So the tranny coaxes the other trannies (who are in position of power in the community; all major speedrunning communities are ruled by trannies btw) into thwarting Nitfski 's progress towards reclaiming the WR and setting an unbeatable perfect speedrun. This is so childish and retarded that I find it entertaining. It's like watching a bunch of retarded children fighting over who rules the sand pit in the playground. Speedrunning is such a joke and waste of time. Just make a TAS to prove where the theoretical limit is, instead of wasting years trying to press buttons like a fucking robot.
>>
>>736114101
Wasn't that Dragon Quest? But I agree it's just silly.
>>
>>736108570
>which requires like a million consecutive frame perfect inputs which is humanly impossible to do on keyboard, unless you use weird binds
Why are they allowed to use keyboards in the first place?
>>
>>736114569
You're allowed to use a keyboard as long as you don't do any left+right inputs at the same time since those aren't possible on a dpad
>>
I support whichever one isn't the tranny.
>>
>>736114569
This game actually only requires a couple dozen frame perfect inputs, and all of them are in the last level. In all the previous levels they have big margins of error as long as they execute the glitch endings correctly. So, matching the TAS in this game isn't as crazy as they want people to believe. This might be the only game apart from Dragster where matching the TAS is humanly possible.
>>
>>736113969
Thats not what a TAS is.
A TAS is a human playing frame by frame sometimes with inputs impossible on default hardware to see a theoretical best time.
There are bots that can do this but thats not what a tas is by default.
>>
>>736114875
Aren't the backwards accelerations frame perfect stuff? I think there were a few levels you had to be perfect to not miss a framerule
>>
File: IMG010.jpg (506 KB, 1080x1920)
506 KB
506 KB JPG
>>736106531
First I've heard of this being a widespread thing. Any evidence to back up these claims besides OP?
>>
this is fuckin gay
>>
>>736115284
Asuna sexo
>>
>>736114875
Lolwut there's pretty much frame perfect shit all over the place to execute the tricks required to get the fastest framerules
>1-1 fpg
>1-2 wall clip
>4-1 fpg
>4-2 has a bunch to get the fastest wrong warp, easily the 2nd hardest level after 8-4
>8-1 frame perfect fast acceleration right at the start
>8-2 plant jump + bullet bill glitch
>8-3 fpg
>>
Super Metroid runners don't give a fuck what input device you use, long as it's not doing anything programmed like macros. Don't see why it'd matter for Mario Bros as long as you ensure you can't do combined left+right/up+down inputs.
>>
>>736115008
Maybe, but iirc the last few WR runs were tied with TAS when entering the final level. But they always lose like 200ms in the final level since it doesn't have framerules. But the speedrunners love to hype their achievements up and they want the uninformed masses to think that coming within 200ms of the TAS in this game is an inhuman wow sugoi sempai feat. It's really not that crazy.
>>
>>736114223
This just sounds like a bunch of trannies need to join the 41% and stop making everyone around them miserable desu. I suspect the Mario speedrunning community will all support the troons and averge though which will result in Niftski either being banned or made a pariah where they just pretend he doesnt exist and never talk about him again.
>>
>>736113658
no, doing the same thing for 365hour before playing for 5second trying to beat the already perfect normal speedrun is the only true way
>>
File: 1773235540755767.jpg (35 KB, 640x360)
35 KB
35 KB JPG
>Don't harass anyone mentioned in this video
Try and stop me nigga
>>
>>736116270
Thats never going to happen because he owns MANY world records in SMB1
>>
>>736115863
Sure, still matching TAS in smb1 is nowhere near as crazy as matching TAS in all other games. I just wanted to dispell the story that's being fabricated by the speedtrooners that matching TAS in smb1 is some godly feat. It's really not that crazy compared to almost every other game in existence.
Also, you sound like a troon for using all of that smb1 lingo.
>>
>>736116401
I've already seen a bunch of ywnbaw posts on the troons xitter
>>
>Amber
*sighs* This is a tranny isn't it?
>>
>>736116462
On the other hand you're comparing it to dragster which is seriously downplaying the difficulty.
Dragster is akin to solving tic tac toe
Smb1 is akin to solving chess
Something like sm64 would be akin to solving Go or an actual game with continuous variables like soccer
>>
>>736116702
Dude troons pick names like saria and female versions of their real names no troon named themselves amber.
>>
File: 1769313003369.jpg (18 KB, 450x600)
18 KB
18 KB JPG
>averge dude actually said "yes i did that shit but no rule changed should stay"
LMAO that tranny is insuferable
>>
>>736116270
>I suspect the Mario speedrunning community will all support the troons and averge though which will result in Niftski either being banned or made a pariah where they just pretend he doesnt exist and never talk about him again.
This is 100% what's gonna happen. I've had the displeasure of witnessing first-hand how around 2016 every speedrunning discord I was following started to get infested by trannies who quickly got in positions of power and started banning anyone who didn't meet their purity standards of being a trans ally. Anyone who dared to say that "maybe we should focus on discussing the game instead of trying to crucify people for having a different opinion on pronouns" got swiftly cross-banned from all communities. Those who remained silent or pretended to be trans allies could escape the bans, but honestly I left the communities on my own at that point since the people I enjoyed hanging around suddenly started wearing wigs and girly clothes. I'm still not sure if the most contributing factor to this situation was neurodivergence, or indoctrination, or some retard-making chemical they put in USA food, or what.
>>
>>736117025
I don't know, I looked this up and the first link was resetranny.
I was expecting them to side with him but no, in that thread everyone agrees this was fucked up.
>>
>>736117025
Same experience for me, I wasn't actually in any of the discords but I witnessed people who were in them get crossbanned for not sucking the girl dick. Its not just speedrunning too, the SMW romhacking scene is a total nightmare with literal pedo trannies running around making borderline fetish games where you play as little girls and every single member of the community pretends it is normal, but if one person doesnt respect a pronoun of a fat man in a dress they get perma banned, you just know not every single person in that community agrees with it but they all stay silent to protect their livelihoods and friendships because that many people can't all be so cognitively dissonant.
>>
>>736116819
No, matching TAS is nowhere the fuck near akin to solving chess. We are 1-2 years away from someone matching TAS of smb1 while we are 100-200 years away in developing fast enough computers to solve chess. Fucking retarded speedtranny. You're just like all the rest, trying to hype up this feat while in reality matching smb1 TAS is trivial compared to matching TAS in almost every other video game.
>>
>>736105295
This averge nigga is so blatant lmao holy fuck. Every word of text is dripping with seethe. How tf did he get so high up in the mod circles to fuck things up so much? Crazy shit
>>
>>736106238
Is the TAS using a controller?
>>
>>736117359
>other things are harder therefore this can't be hard
Fucking retard.
>>
jay_cee just got another wr
>>
>>736117438
It's not a TAS. It's a speedrun trying to be as fast as the TAS. But it's using Keyboard.
>>
>>736108921
You are correct, but it sounds like the #1 used keyboard and so that issue is irrelevant and this is purely due to the trannies malding this guy is doing better than them at their own game.
>>
File: 1759691551652595.jpg (30 KB, 702x475)
30 KB
30 KB JPG
>>736117384
>How tf did he get so high up in the mod circles to fuck things up so much? Crazy shit
If you're trans, you're automatically treated like nobility in speedrunning communities. Almost all positions of power are occupied by them. They're terminally online and mostly jobless, living from taxpayers money (faking disabilities or mental issues to get free bux). Because of that, they're disconnected with real world and don't have anyone to set them straight. They spend all time in their safe online spaces, getting further indoctrinated and perpetuating the issues they create. It's so sad because speedrunning used to intrigue and absorb my attention in early 2010s. But along the way it's somehow gotten overrun with those freaks. Many seemingly normal people trooned out eventually as well. Maybe they were destined to end up like that. Maybe there's just an ungodly high correlation between someone willing to invest hundreds of hours to imitate a robot for internet clout and someone who is so deeply insecure that they decide to live in a fantasy land to cope.
>>
>>736117778
Apparently averge tranny was seething over Niftski WAY before he even had a record, its in the video
>HE IS NOT THE WORLD RECORD OWNER I AM I AM (Seething over a video thats old)
>>
File: yoshi1.jpg (16 KB, 289x356)
16 KB
16 KB JPG
speedruns should be original hardware and stock controllers only.
you can go ahead and get the world record on emulator + keyboard, but that doesn't feel legit in the slightest.
who's to say you don't have some key macro? just the potential to be running anything in the background is a huge red flag.
>>
>>736117709
Why don't they just make a new category that allows keyboards?
>>
>>736117489
Not saying this isn't hard. Just dispelling the myth that "it's godly gaming because it matches a perfect TAS run". It would be indeed something incredible if it was a different game. Smb1 is in top5 games easiest to match the TAS, maybe even 2nd just after Dragster.
>>
>>736117283
>making borderline fetish games where you play as little girls
This would only upset trannies, this is the kind of game real men play and make.
>>
>>736105295
>using keyboard
yeah, he should be in another category, with a keyboard you can press both left and right at the same time, and i remember doing crazy shit on Mario world doing that, so i guess is the same for SMB1
>>
>>736118159
The category isn't really the point of discussion in this case at least. It's specifically about swapping from controller to keyboard, which is only useful if you're at a high enough level to tie the TAS and was already voted to be allowed beforehand.
The averge tranny found it too difficult and Niftski was getting really consistent with it. So averge used his mod connections to ban the technique in order to sabotage Niftski.
>>
>>736118634
it should be easy enough to split every record already recorded by controller/keyboard.
imagine if the keyboard chad gets both records.
for top players it could be a fun race.
>>
>>736118571
As already mentioned, the context is everyone on the leaderboard is using keyboard.
The real issue they have is that he is using controller for some levels because he actually knows how to play irl and not just on emulator.
Of course the reality is they would find any excuse to exclude someone not from their "community" from coming in and doing better than them.
>>
>>736118634
Why are trannies always narcissist power hungry faggots?
>>
>>736105295
>you should not go out and harass anyone mentioned in this video
You bumfucking nigger buffon, what the fucking fuck do you expect when you make a video like this? You can't claim ignorance on this, EVERY single fucking internet drama video results in harassment and everybody knows that, fucking own up to what you've set out into the world at the very least if you want to be taken seriously.
Also ALL non TAS speedruns should be made on original hardware only regardless of what that entails because otherwise what's the fucking point?
>>
Caring about the WR is peak Nintendo brain
>>
>>736118848
>the context is everyone on the leaderboard is using keyboard.
So the decision invalidated all those runs, kek
>>
>>736119036
Not in this case, because the decision was to not allow using both keyboard and controller in the same run.
>>
>>736106919
Emulator and physical are 2 seperate categories for a reason. Emulators you can map out your buttons and do impossible button combinations, as well as having an easier time cheating.
>>
>>736119294
Okay I get it now
That's fucking stupid and also fucking petty
>>
>>736119410
Yes, the whole deal is "This dude is going to recover beat my record and there is nothing I can do I better change the rules so he can’t do it", the dude literally gloats over having the world record for it
>>
>>736118089
You also have to do it in front of me after I personally have verified the integrity of all components used otherwise it doesn't count
>>
>>736118878
They are a eunuch class for globalists to use to disrupt online communities and corporations. They get off to the misery of the "cis". Trannies are essentially serial killers who've been told their identity and actions are valid.
>>
>>736119550
Everything is high school politics to these people
By the way thanks for explaining patiently, it's rare
>>
File: channels4_profile.jpg (64 KB, 900x900)
64 KB
64 KB JPG
Who does he side with?
>>
>>736105295
damn a guy is going to beat a TAS
>speedrun.com
yeah no, this dude is getting banned for life. if there is one place in regards to speedrunning that deserves to be nuked, its this one.
>>
>>736113332
>It's a good workaround in that case
In practice it wasn't really an intentional workaround, it naturally ended up faster in rerouting anyway.
>>
>>736105295
Isn't the solution here to have a seperate category? If people are willing to adopt the input method then the old categories will fade, and if they aren't then niftski can be in it by himself. An issue I have with speedrunning is practices are typically adopted that are often unfun and ultimately harmful to players. Like turbo is generally accepted in shmups, but not allowed in speedruns, and obviously it's not healthy to make thousands of rapid inputs every day. It's important to consider if a category is something humans are willing to compete in, which can be an issue in highly optimized games such as this one. However, niftski states in the video that his input method is easier and more consistent, whereas other runner unanimously state that they do not enjoy it after they've spent some time using it. So again, regardless of personal drama it seems to me the obvious solution is seperate categories.
>>
>>736119580
for game records judges used to be a thing, actually
>>
>>736119294
That's actually stupider than anyone could've have possibly imagined.
>>
>>736120143
>Like turbo is generally accepted in shmups
Built-in turbo? Yeah.
Otherwise? You didn't beat the game lol
>>
>>736120143
Nope, the dude already admitted to it
>>
>>736118878
>Why are trannies always narcissist power hungry faggots?
They desperately look for something that will make them feel relevant and forget about their devastating gender dysphoria. Please understand their struggle.
>>
>>736114887
That sounds lame as fuck too
>>
>>736120501
JHA permits turbo, which makes then distinct from twin galaxies. The Japanese take is to allow it, which has obvious enormous benefits.
>>
>>736106531
You have to be good and fast at a game before you can be on the leaderboards, chud. Out of all the gaming communities it’s probably the most merit-based (unless you want to just hang out on their discord or whatever). Get filtered.
>>
>>736107535
>2. How does that somehow allow the use of a keyboard in a speedrun?
In Mario NES, Keyboard and Emulator is allowed on the main leaderboard, changing this so suddenly is clearly targeting someone. Unless there is some incredibly strong new evidence against using emulators or keyboards?
>>
>>736111048
>I think only official controllers should be allowed
the NES is 40+ years old, you're not getting new official controllers for it at this point. You'll need to agree on a specific brand of aftermarket controllers at the very least.
>>
>>736119882
he stands with the trans
Billy would stand with Nishki as hes used to faggots doing the same thing to him
>>
>>736113658
TAS speedruns start the moment you first turn on your PC and start editing your TAS. so the average TAS run is about ~1000x longer than a regular playthrough.
it's the slowest way to speedrun.
>>
Isn't there a chance that a sunray interferes with your game console and shifts something that makes you glitch and save a bunch of time in the speedrun? Speedrunning is moronic.
>>
>>736122350
That was a myth I think.
>>
>>736118217
Name a game harder than smb1 that has had its TAS matched
>>
>>736105295
tl;dr? Not going to watch that.
>>
>>736122708
>>736107768
>>
>>736105295
>TAS
>speedrun
>>
>>736108570
isnt this all TAS? what is consistency supposed to mean?
>>
>>736108570
Just split it into a different category. Speedtrunners are dumb.
>>
>>736122801
>>736122882
Watch the fucking video
>>
>>736122801
TAS is the only interesting category of speedrun, chud. Enjoy your “pop offs” or whatever
>>
>>736122350
That was an explanation offered for a specific upwarp in SM64, but in reality the singular person who experienced that upwarp was almost certainly just cheating.
>>
File: j4aichsj2s831.jpg (1.01 MB, 3024x4032)
1.01 MB
1.01 MB JPG
>>736121827
How are you playing on an NES and not have an NES controller? That doesn't make sense.
Otherwise, there's pic related for emulators.
>>
>>736117359
>while we are 100-200 years away in developing fast enough computers to solve chess.
How did you come up with this estimate?
>>
File: Ahfdh.png (140 KB, 824x370)
140 KB
140 KB PNG
>>736105295
How can anyone take this mod team seriously?
>>
>>736112118
>Avenge is 100% getting banned and getting his record stripped
lol you wish
>>
>>736118571
I agree keyboard is cheating, but they do at least disable simultaneous left+right inputs.
>>
File: 1757099244335893.png (141 KB, 1093x657)
141 KB
141 KB PNG
I hate the modern internet.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KbHjOIn45WP0PRdA9GDRB43MTiNiQm2AxURSJ7h84G8/edit
>>
>>736123375
Lmao, its pathetic on both sides, on the tranny for thinking this is a giant insult and on the "dudebro" thinking this is the worst thing the tranny could call him, but i guess the tranny is worse since he is both pathetic and scummy while the latter is just pathetic.
>>
>>736123597
Pretty much
>>
>>736105295
He should just keep playing however he wants. If he gets the first TAS tie nobody will give a shit and nobody will ever really be able to take it from him.
>>
>>736123792
Agreed. Not a single flying fuck is given about what some sweaty discord mods say.
>>
>>736123375
I swear, idiots used to just submit to being humbled and having things explained to them. Now they find things that "support" them on the Internet and have taken over most institutions. These people can't be told anything and regularly launch into these hideously abusive behaviors. The grand niggification of society. Only a society that has become fundamentally retarded has things like trannies openly walking around and politicians who are able to still be electable while calling to turn your children into trannies. Where did it all go wrong? The internet allowed many great things like information freedom from the institutions. But it also has led to some of the most cancerous evils like the psued apocalypse.
>>
>>736123375
The only reason that's there is because the dumbass rigged a vote to fuck over another player. Personal grudges start to matter when you're being anti-competitive.
>>
>>736109661
"Tool assisted" in this case just means using both a controller and keyboard at the same time. Maybe try watching the video or at least look up what it's about before trying to seriously talk about it
>>
>>736107161
In FF7 they found a TAS exploit for the No slots run that was kind of a grey area so plenty of people were opposed to it but the current WR holder and his buddies decided that they were wrong because they've been practicing and getting good times with it.
>>
>>736124050
Tool Assisted in this case is not related anything in the run besides the end time. The run ties with the theoretical limit for Mario Brothers speedruns.
>>
Not gonna watch the video but speedruns should be on official hardware only. If that's what the trannies decided then they are correct.
>>
>>736105295
Is the woman involved in this a woman or "woman"
>>
>>736124437
No, they use a keyboard too. They wanted input swapping banned, which makes no sense. If controller is allowed, and keyboard is allowed, then I don't see how swapping between them shouldn't be allowed.
>>
People need to realize that being a moderator doesn't make you more intelligent, more skilled, or more representative of the community as a whole. Moderators are selected based on free-time and having nothing else better to do. These stupid rules changes always happen and no one stops the think that they might be power-tripping. It just takes slight self-awareness
>>
>>736112745
>and why should we follow specifically theirs? Because they were the ones who ended up with the speedrun website domain?
Yes? The whole point of speedrunning is competition more or less. You set a time and you or someone else competes against it. There needs to be some set of rules around the competition but ultimately they are all going to be arbitrary. The important thing is that everyone agrees to abide by them and that is the point of having a site that everyone uses. Don't like it? No one is stopping you from uploading your videos to youtube and not submitting
>>
>>736124679
Accidental power tripping I can sort of forgive
This is plain malicious though. The mod team changed the rules because their guy was in danger of being beaten by the other guy if they didn't.
>>
>>736109870
>white
Americans are hilarious.
>>
File: 1772678416794132.png (203 KB, 480x272)
203 KB
203 KB PNG
>>736124952
Is he not?
>>
>>736124952
white isn't an ethnicity retard
>>
>>736125209
Looks Whiter than the mongrel population that inhabits a lot of South America and europe. I seriously feel queasy whenever I see modern euromutts, we really did steal all their good people.
>>
>>736125345
it is
>>
Niftski has always struck me as an adderall junkie. Like it's weird seeing a white /fit/ male hanging out with troons and twitch chatters; maybe it's a zoomer thing. In any case, he's okay in my book.
>>
>>736125440
And the Yamato Whites are a populous and important part of it. Paleness is the sign of nobility.
>>
So wait they're trying to TAS tie? I know SBM1 has that weird as shit frame rule nonsense where technically how fast you go in a stage is meaningless because the game only lets you progress to the next stage on certain frames, but is that really lenient enough and people understand the game enough now that humans are attempting to tie with TAS?
That's actually quite interesting, I haven't followed speedrunning since Blueglass got kill.
>>
>>736124772
>Yes? The whole point of speedrunning is competition more or less.
It's a time trial against yourself, the competition shit is played up by youtubers like summoningsalt to be digestible for people who don't speedrun. Ask most speedrunners, they don't give a fuck about being the best, they care about pushing a game to it's limits.
>There needs to be some set of rules around the competition but ultimately they are all going to be arbitrary.
That's the issue. It's the rules are too arbitrary and inconsistent, fully on the mods who are clearly on a power trip.
>Yes? The whole point of speedrunning is competition more or less. You set a time and you or someone else competes against it. There needs to be some set of rules around the competition but ultimately they are all going to be arbitrary. The important thing is that everyone agrees to abide by them and that is the point of having a site that everyone uses.
That's an interesting way of handwaving blatant rigging and corruption, but alright.
>>
>>736125964
>deletes his post to repost a corrected version
dangerously based.
>>
>>736115284
Talk to anyone that cares about an individual game and they'll tell you why their leaderboard sucks. The site admins genuinely don't give a fuck and let the first twat that asks turn games into their own digital fiefdoms. Any game with just one mod is guaranteed fucked.

God Hand is the one I'm most familiar with. The moderator is part of a group of people making mods for God Hand with de/repackaging tools and hex editing. If you watch their runs you might notice the drop rate for ultra rare ultra useful cards is insanely high.
>>
>>736125942
Yeah, I think the only level that needs to be TAS perfect is 8-4, which has done tons of times now. It's absolutely doable.
>>
>>736126147
Terrifying, but also incredibly impressive. Good luck to him then, I'm sure he can do it.
>>
>>736125964
>Ask most speedrunners, they don't give a fuck about being the best, they care about pushing a game to it's limits.
Most runners are not setting notable game records. The amount of time and skill required to get a top 10 time on any relevant speedgame cat is immense. Most runners will aim for a time 70-90% as good as the record and call it a day. Beyond that point, you need to be a turboneet autist.
I understand the distinction, but I argue it depends. Many top runners are only interested in setting records, while others will specialize in a single category.
>>
>>736105295
kek, get fucked runner up
>>
>>736118914
kys sooner than later, tranny scum.
>>
>>736126557
Sure, a good amount of top runners care about being the best...and by a complete sheer coincidence, these top runners are also the people who set the rules, alongside their co-mods, who are their friends from private discord servers who will conspire to vote on rules with they can pull out of their back pocket. Let's just let power-hungry weirdos dictate rules that everyone has to abide by on a game-by-game basis. It shouldn't be surprising that you now have cases where someone new that isn't in this clique is getting targeted unfairly. How about we just make all games have the same baseline rules instead of letting sub-humans decide how people should be played? There's no reason two games with two similar playstyles should have different rules.
>>
>>736105295
I know that niftsky guy or whatever. Always irked me how he used a keyboard but he is still really good at the game. Shame that the rules work against him now
>>
>>736123925
>Where did it all go wrong?
when we gave women the right to vote
>>
>>736125413
>I seriously feel queasy whenever I see modern euromutts, we really did steal all their good people.
thanks for taking in all the kikes as well btw
>>
>>736108570
And they do all of that instead of pursuing a degree, get laid, program an actual game, hang out with friends, or run a business?
Men are so pathetic
>>
>>736127329
Eh, I don't think it's as conspiratory as you're making it out to be. Averge is just a bitter loser, most mods aren't as pathetic as him.
>How about we just make all games have the same baseline rules instead of letting sub-humans decide how people should be played? There's no reason two games with two similar playstyles should have different rules.
Sounds nice on paper, but we're 15 years too late. There are so many games and categories with difficult-to-draw lines on what should or shouldn't be allowed. I do think allowing runners (and not exclusively moderators) to vote on important changes is the right approach though.
A larger issue in my eyes is runners getting their runs anonymized (or, in rare cases, erased) from the leaderboard history because they said niggerfaggot in ten years ago.
>>
>Kosmic is 17th place in the rankings now
Kinda insane to think, if you know who he is. Used to be the best
>>
>>736127749
They aren't too much of an issue because they all live underground or on islands.
>>
>>736127979
Bismuth's video analyzing his 4:55.913 was what got me interested in speedrunning.
>>
>>736113658
Literally not a "run". How did you even "run" if you kept loading save states. A run implies that you play the game in one-go.

TAS should be called TAD, Tool-Assisted Demos.
>>
>>736127979
>now the best player is a Canadian

Why are Canadians so good at speedrunning for the country's population ? Plus he's a normie/chad.
>>
Billy won btw
>>
>>736128235
Nifstki is American though
>>
controller is much more inefficient compared to a keyboard
controller and keyboard should be different categories
>>
>>736128416
Mandela effect, timelines changed
>>
>>736127915
>most mods aren't as pathetic as him
"Moderators" for literally anything are nine times out of ten pathetic, power hungry losers. It's just that this time they got caught going overboard. Too bad it wasn't earlier. Discord mods, reddit mods, wiki mods, speedrun mods, they're all the same flavor of autist.

>There are so many games and categories with difficult-to-draw lines on what should or shouldn't be allowed
Here's an easy ruleset. Complete the game as fast as possible = any%. Do everything that's trackable in the game as fast as possible = 100%. No cheating, all original hardware. The only reason it's gotten to this point is because the community and the mods are picky because they want to be the best without having to perform ACE or some other really hard to pull off trick, or the fact they can't afford an NES with an original controller. So the mods ban certain glitches, or move them to a category extension out of sight (funny enough, what they did to ACE in SMB2 even though it beats any%. Wonder who the mods were there?) I remember seeing even more games where glitches in the any% speedrun were banned by the mods, specifically Get to Work, where certain glitches were banned because it beat the game too fast. So fucking stupid.

Let me be clear, I am all in favor of using whatever control input you want, or if you're using emulator, or if you want to play without a certain glitch or two. Just keep them to a different leaderboard or google spreadsheet and don't have them crossover with these basic rules.
>>
>>736128491
Irrelevant to the rule change. They didn't ban keyboard. They banned switching controllers mid-run. And the only top player who did this was Nifstki who would switch off of keyboard and onto controller.
>>
>>736122315
Yeah, we all know speedrunners never attempt to break records more than 1,000 times. That doesn't sound like them at all.
>>
>>736128605
Did he start doing that recently cuz he's still 2nd on the leaderboard. Was that run without controller switch ?
>>
>>736128702
TAS is just a guy taking his time to edit a demonstration of what can be possible. How the fuck is that a run.
>>
who cares about speedrunning though?
it is just people playing a 2 hour game for 20000 hours cause they rather not master something that actually matters
>could have become a top surgeon and saved countless lives
>could have solved world hunger
>could have become a top tier musician
nah bro I rather just play mario all day everyday!
>>
>>736128786
TAS speedruns are actually cool though as it is 100% efficient
>>
>>736128786
It isn't. It's gay and stupid.
>>
>>736119882
You'll find out like a month after everything is resolved and you've heard about it from 5 other YouTubers in the meantime
>>
>>736128831
>nah bro I rather just play mario all day everyday!
Honestly? Based.
>>
>>736120812
Not as lame as some shut in ""training"" to play a game fast like it's a sport.
>>
>>736105295
*LISP*
AAaaand Alt+W
>>
>>736128831
>anyone can solve world hunger bro, you just have to put your mind to it
ahhh-guy
>>
how do people even know you switched controls midgame lol?
just dont do button recording
>>
>>736129138
There are handcams
>>
>>736129126
if every top speedrunner combined their iq's they could solve world hunger, a single speedrunner would be able to solve city hunger at the least though
100%
>>
>>736129172
dont do it, or just splice fake cam that you prerecord
speedrunner aren't smart enough to figure out handcam splicing
>>
>>736128235
No speedrunner is a normie. Just being a gym rat doesn't make you a normalfag.
>>
>>736129343
Would you also say that every athlete isn't a normie either ? They also autistically practice something until they become top-tier.

So being a normie excludes you from being ambitious in anything.
>>
>>736128831
it only costs $ to play Mario not $$ to get certified if you can even get into school to play a bunch of zelda shit you don't want to
>>
>>736129610
>being a normie excludes you from being ambitious in anything.
Yes. This is why normies are bad. Their mediocrity is a plague.
>>
>>736129175
It's already solved, restaurants and groceries throw away a shit load of food. Just be in a position of power (not guaranteed even if you're really smart).
>>
>>736129610
Yeah, pretty much.
>>
>>736129832
I prefer to use normie as a term to define that you're thriving/surviving against physical rules and with the stability to not get in a downward spiral of mental illness.
>>
>>736129832
What do you excel at?
>>
>Allowed to use keyboard
>Allowed to use SNES controller
>But acthually you can't use both
Can someone give a legit explanation as to why this rule could now exist or is it really just a tranny melty because someone might beat his record soon?
>>
>>736130372
It's a NES controller you pleb, and no, the rule makes no sense. Both controllers are permitted, so how could switching cause an unfair advantage?
>>
>>736130250
Posting on 4chan.
>>
>>736130454
Makes it look "tryhard", it's a bad look for the community.

I mean, keyboards for SMB is definitely tryhard for me, the top records should actually be NES controllers only
>>
>>736130508
Make speed running look tryhard?? Lol
>>
>>736130250
Unamed niche competitive pvp game.
>>
Should trannies be allowed to hold records in female only categories?
>>
>>736105295
Does this have to do with pressing both left and right at the same time with some controllers, because I'm seeing a pattern here with most speedruns involving it.
>>
>>736106645
>speedrunning
Woman-woman or "she/her" """woman"""?
>>
>>736130645
Only if they can become pregnant
>buh my extremely rare disease that affects my-
Don't care. If you can't get pregnant you aren't female
>>
>>736130570
As in going extra with hardware stuff instead of competing with people that play on OG hardware. Mostly for popular classics that are prestigious, you gotta be able to say you did it on regular hardware.

Thats usually how it goes, if you get top tier, people will tell you to do it again on OG hardware.
>>
>>736117283
>literal pedo trannies running around making borderline fetish games where you play as little girls and every single member of the community pretends it is normal
I guarantee they're channers. Lolitrannies are churned out directly from 4chan.
>>
>>736130830
Ok, but the issue here isn't keyboard use, it's switching to the OG controller.
>>
>>736130935
Erm... this is kinda awkward but... you are on 4chan right now
>>
>>736130993
We live in a world where playing with the original controller is cheating. These incompetent fucks should have never been in power.
>>
>>736105295
>his
averge uses they/them pronouns, please respect them.
>>
>>736130993
They just let the zoomies do whatever, but none of them are prestigious until they do it on OG.
>>
>>736131096
Respect is earned, not given. And I have no respect to give for a filthy conspirator.
>>
>>736130935
>came to 4chan as an election tourist in 2016 cause i hated proud pedo bbc trannies
>4chan in 2026 is proud pedo bbc tranny hq
i guess there's always kiwifarms
>>
>>736131210
tbf it's my understanding that keyboard doesn't offer any real advantage over controller. In this case, controller is used since it is an advantage over keyboard.
>>
>>736105990
Yes, yes (you) are.
>>
>>736131348
It doesn't offer an advantage the player just finds it preferable for 8-4/
>>
>>736123375
GOOGLE DOCCY
>>
>>736130784
What about people born with a uterus and ovaries but they don't work?
>>
>>736131348
I mean, the top 2 mainly use keyboard.
Must give an advantage somehow.

#1 got shifted to 2 because he switched controllers. Which is not a good look, imagine at AGDQ "wait guys I have to switch trooncolers for this part"
>>
File: GOOGLE DOCCY.jpg (163 KB, 1080x1887)
163 KB
163 KB JPG
>>736123375
>>
I'm the record holder of most threads on /v/at the same time hit reply limit. Where is the record category to submit?
>>
>>736132196
Tool assisted?
>>
>>736106548
>>736106797
That's completely different then, yeah, he shouldn't be allowed to use a keyboard. Use proper hardware or a fair emulation of it.
>>
>>736122905
fuck no you faggot
lmao
>>
File: 1324380094013.jpg (25 KB, 277x318)
25 KB
25 KB JPG
>dude dominates every category of original mario bros speed running (op video guy) WR holder in every single category
>tranny comes in and beats him in the any% record by 2 frames
>original guy plays both keyboard, and controller
>keyboard and emulator is allowed in all speedruns of the game
>tranny only does keyboard
>there has been an unofficial rule that allowed input swapping (swapping from controller to keyboard mid gameplay) for over 2 years
>some parts of the run are easier on controller, others easier on KB
>it officially got voted to be allowed 4 months ago
>original dude had been practicing for a year before the rule was official allowed
>after it was allowed he shared the progress he had been making with it
>he was on pace to tie the TAS speedrun of the game in a live setting, and being insanely consistent, only a matter of time
>tranny gets butthurt that their record is going to be beaten, and they will never be allowed to be number 1 again, because one the TAS is tied, that's it nobody can ever beat original guy again
>they start going on a meltdown, and doing everything they can to get the rule (that was just passed in a 8-1 majority a few months ago)
>doing everything they can, blackmailing other mods, pulling every string they can
>gets them to revote and ban it to defend their record
>also at the same time the trannys friends start talking about allowing adapters to use KB on console for live events to make the tranny look better
>even though original guy still dominated live events with controller as well, even though he is better on KB
It's pure tranny butthurt.
>>
>>736133247
Switching controllers during a 5min speedtrans is a sign that you're not doing well. He showed his wr to his mom and she wasn't impressed, so they changed the rules.
>>
>>736133247
>some parts of the run are easier on controller, others easier on KB
Is this true? The stated reason is because he doesn't want to change his keybinds. I thought it was just preference.
>>
>>736133247
The logic of switching controllers during a speedrun could get comically absurd. Like dude brings 4 consoles and a cable to link them as he switches to the most optimal console for every part and it happens to makes a time machine during a speedrun event.

Plus Cosmo never got the chance to showcase his 64DD at an event, it's kind of in the same tier.
>>
>>736133247
You're dreaming if you think I'm reading this.
>>
>>736133570
The rule is 1 controller, 1 keybaord. And there are specific requirements they have to adhere to as not to be a physical advantage over controller (key pressing times and such). As far as using multiple controllers in runs, it's fairy common in N64 games due to the nature of the controllers being old, and overall shitty with new ones not being made. They used a shitty controller to due button mashing parts or parts where they have to twirl the stick around a lot (this actually damages them because the controllers are so ass lmao), to preserve their good main controller.
>>
>>736112748
>instead of banning worn controllers.
Well, they might run out of fresh SNES controllers one day.
>>
>>736133048
Kek, based don't fall for his tricks
>>
>>736131783
The speedruns are timed in real time.
That means you can't waste a single frame while swapping controllers which is why you do it when you can't control Mario.
Which means your strawman doesn't even have a chance to exist.
>>
File: Comrade Frog.jpg (130 KB, 1024x1020)
130 KB
130 KB JPG
>>736133864
>>
>>736109661
I'm interested in the theoretical technical limits of the game, not on player skill. TAS RE4 is ultimate lvdo.
>>
NERD FIIIIIGHT
>>
>>736128960
If you don't think this is cool you are very lame.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brSsTm_yz0U
>>
>>736105502
TAS means "Tool assisted speedrun".

While normal speedruns are about player's skill TAS are more like "How quickly can be beaten when everything including inputs and rng is just perfect."
>>
>>736135704
Yes and using a keyboard is clearly superior to gamepads. It's clearly a tool advantage.
>>
>>736135992
The entire community voted that KB does not have an advantage over controller, it's preference. Not to mention it's hard to find some good functioning 40 year old controllers.
>>
>>736136292
>it's hard to find some good functioning 40 year old controllers.
This is something the "original hardware ONLY" crowd will never understand.
>>
>>736136292
>Not to mention it's hard to find some good functioning 40 year old controllers.
That was the whole reason keyboards were allowed.
This is just a tranny melty
>>
>>736135992
The new rule isn't banning keyboards. It's literally just to stop one of the top players from switching to gamepad(out of preference) for the final stage.
>>
File: 1763032493472730.jpg (585 KB, 2451x3189)
585 KB
585 KB JPG
Does it even matter that all the authorities are friends? Who cares if they're colluding?
If someone can't be friends with literally everyone who are already friends, then maybe they don't deserve to be a part of the community in the first place.
>>
>>736137297
Why are you trying your faggy ERP shit in this thread of all places?
>>
>>736115284
The only one I'm aware of is Dragon Warrior 4. A Japanese runner beat the posted world record by over ten minutes, but the English moderators refused to accept it because they hadn't "seen his progress and practice" to know he'd done it legitimately. So basically because he wasn't in the English Twitch streamer clique they refused to give him WR. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TCGDmilIr0w This run is still the fastest recorded to date.
>>
>>736137297
I know you are just a fag trying to erp but.
>person who changed the rules is a jealous tranny
>op video guy was nice and welcoming to them (what a mistake)
>helped them with stuff, host stream raids for their channel and promoted them as a new and upcoming runner of the game
>meanwhile tranny just seethes and is butthurt the other guy is more popular and better than them and shit talks behind their back in private discords
>>
>>736108570
I don't get why people do this shit still. Keeping your leaderboard position based on a scummy technicality isn't worth your reputation.
>>
>>736137610
Aren't they supposed to just go over the video carefully? Expecting every good speedrunner to be an attention whore english streamer and refusing them if they aren't sounds retarded.
>>
>>736138124
It's a byproduct of these mod teams being an echo chamber. They genuinely thing they're smarter than the are. Which makes them believe they can get away with it.
>>
>>736138279
Because cheating is a problem it is suspicious when a players comes out of nowhere and gets world record. Granted I don't believe it's common to reject a normal seeming run for. Usually it just means more scrutiny.
>>
>>736115284
I know the top runner for paper mario got all his runs removed and got banned from the leaderboard because some girl tried to MeToo him. Completely unrelated to the speedruns but since he's apparently a bad person his gameplay doesn't count. Last I checked he still streams and speedruns the game too.
>>
>>736138707
Nah Stryder has been gone since. Completely left the internet.
>>
File: besa.png (249 KB, 1351x748)
249 KB
249 KB PNG
>>736138707
That guy is...I don't know what you call him. Just an absolute unit.
>>
>>736138794
No that's a different guy, I'm talking about imglower. I didn't even know stryder did speedruns, I thought he focused on glitch hunting stuff. It's pretty funny if it happened twice to the same game though.
>>
>>736109446
I know english is hard sukdip, but c'mon
>>
>>736137641
why are trannies always so hateful? is it misdirected self-hate?
>>
>>736139761
Niftski is a pretty handsome dude. Of course a tranny would be jealous. Considering 99% of them "go female" because they are ugly and have given up.
>>
>>736139848
is he actually a tranny? I just watched the part of the video where he's discussing the rule with his girlfriend and some other guy, and he literally has the generic lethargic male zoomer voice, not even trying to sound feminine in the least
>>
>>736140029
he says his pronouns are they/them and made a whole google doc about calling out someone who said tranny
>>
>>736112745
>why should the people who own the website, be allowed to decide the rules of the website they own
They own a website called speedrun. They dont own speedrunning - you're free to make your own website, leaderboard, ruleset and categories.
>>
File: Mario Pissing.jpg (21 KB, 622x348)
21 KB
21 KB JPG
>>736105295
I haven't watched the video, but Niftski's loud, extroverted, dudebro zoomer personality and the way he screeches "LET'S FUCKING GO!!!!!!!!!!" like a frat boy banshee every single time he gets a PB makes me want to discredit everything he says out of pure manlet jealousy. Every single speedrunning community is doomed to eventually succumb to petty, obnoxious trannoid bullshit though
>>
>>736141045
There's a section of the video where he talks about how he did raids and helped grow Averg's streams. This is literally those images of communities getting taken over and the original players pushed.
>>
>>736132746
Plenty of people on the leaderboard use a keyboard, the rules do not disallow it. The rules were just changed to specifically disallow switching from keyboard to controller or vice versa mid run because that specifically targets this particular runner's method of running.
>>
>>736125345
>>736125440
No, it's a humanoid species with different races, such as: Nordic, Baltic, Slavic, Anglo-Mutts, Celts, Franks, Germanic and amerimutts.
Asian/Oriental is another humanoid species with different races, such as: Japanese, Chinese, Thai, Flips etc
Black/afrikan is another humanoid species, with different races such as; Ethiopia, Kongonese, etc
You also have another humanoid species, the semites, which is arabs and jews.
You also got the mongol humanoid species, with races like mongols, sami, the snowpeople in canada, etc
India is a humanoid species. LATAM has like hundreds of different races due to being a mix of jungle people/europeans/afrikans etc
There are more genetical and bioligcal differences between White and afrikans, than it is between coyotes and wolves. Coyotes and wolves are different species (also called subspecies), not different races.
So, just because our skin colors is Pale, we are not the same race, but we are the same species.
>>
>>736106919
Billy Mitchell is a giga faggot who literally takes people to court over it and shills his shitty hot sauce. It's just funny that Karl Jobst was somehow even MORE retarded than Billy is.
>>
>>736123004
>just subscribe to nintendo bro
>give them $60 a year for access to a controller
>pay them even more for the controller itself
fuck off tendie
>>
>>736133570
>The logic of switching controllers during a speedrun could get comically absurd. Like dude brings 4 consoles and a cable to link them as he switches to the most optimal console for every part and it happens to makes a time machine during a speedrun event.
you joke but some speedruns require memory swapping between two completely different games in order to get the best times by swapping cartridges mid run (while it's on)
>>
>>736128831
World hunger was solved thousands of years ago. The only reason people die from hunger is because afrikans dont know how to grow food or fish, on a continent with unlimited sun to grow said food.
>b-but sahara desert
afrika isnt the sahara desert.
>>
>>736142457
They're physically not capable of the long term thought that farming requires. If you read between the lines of the many aid projects designed to encourage farming you see the irrefutable proof of this.
>>
>>736142832
Yes. So obviously world hunger is not the problem. They are the problem. They also have unlimited coastline to make fishfarms on.
>>
File: new5.jpg (263 KB, 1170x1054)
263 KB
263 KB JPG
>>736106919
>>Billy Mitchell cheated because he played on emulator and used a different joystick. Now I have to ruin his life.
>Somehow still can't prove it in court even with all the alleged overwhelming evidence
It's really funny how badly Billy mindbroke, among others, jewbst and that toothless meth addict whatshisname who took over perfectpacman website.
Btw the discount codes like KARL LOST still work for at least some of rickey's products.
>>
File: iq.jpg (100 KB, 664x235)
100 KB
100 KB JPG
>>736109553
>>
>>736142286
not my problem. play on original hardware then
>>
>>736113658
Until they start using tools to do inhuman inputs.
>>
>>736114223
This is what happens when you let one site control everything.
>>
>>736131382
Since you seem to be extra retarded, a TAS tie is trying to match TAS without using tools.
>>
Just finished watching the video and reading the two google docs, and holy shit, trannies not even once. The only way to maintain integrity of your game/community is to just outright remove them immediately.
>>
>>736107004
They Changed the Rules to Sabotage His TAS Tie Progress
>>
>>736108960
18+ website
>>
Isn't it old news that speedtrannies do this shit?

I remember many years ago at GDQ one of the runs was entirely about mocking how rampant the completely arbitrary bullshit decided by nobodies who have placed themselves in charge is in speedrunning.
>>
File: 1772608454209744.png (265 KB, 736x574)
265 KB
265 KB PNG
>>736106531
>find speedrun page of literal who ps2 rpg only i ever played
>only has 2 runs, and one of them is just a normal playthrough
>watch the actual run, instantly find optimizations because i played the game 50 times as a kid
>speedrun for first time and get wr, was fun but nothing i want to do again
>submit run
>week passes, nothing happened
>month passes, nothing happened
>guess the admin just forgot since there were no runners
>check back half year later
>admin only accepted my run AFTER he made a run beating mine using my strats with nothing new added, just performed a bit better

gay, was hoping to get some autism kino for an unknown game but being number 1 to some admin is more important
>>
File: 1656366864106.jpg (332 KB, 1600x1413)
332 KB
332 KB JPG
>>736105295
>play on highly accurate emulator verified by the mods that gives you zero advantages compared to playing on a NES
>don't need to deal with holding a sweaty NES controller for hours on end + its just more comfortable to play on keyboard in general
>every input can be done on a nes controller
literally the only time controller matters is if you meet up at an event and their setup is to play on a NES, keyboard is king and i will die on this hill
>>
>>736115284
>>736146979
>>
>>736146687
It was Mirror's Edge glitchless, which ironically allowed for a bunch of glitches
>>
File: 1774182326610566.gif (2.1 MB, 384x378)
2.1 MB
2.1 MB GIF
>>736105295
I hate speedrunfaggots so much it's barely real.
>>
File: file.png (198 KB, 637x589)
198 KB
198 KB PNG
>>736146979
You deserved it considering you didn't dox him or upload it to youtube.
>>
>>736114887
So you didn't play the game, retard.
>>
>>736106919
billy won btw
>>
>>736107147
He has evidence. They changed the rules as a target to him. I don't know any of these people but good for this dude for standing up for himself.
>>
>>736105295
it's TAS, who gives a fuck about a title
>>
>>736148924
It's not. He is attempting to tie the TAS run in real time. And was close.
>>
File: 1759694873873870.jpg (142 KB, 363x426)
142 KB
142 KB JPG
>>736123375
Screenshots are not evidence. Anyone can fabricate screenshots within minutes and there's no way to verify if they're real or not (alleged discord servers are private).
Will there ever come a day where people stop instantly believing in motherfucking discord screenshots?
>>
>>736149952
Kill yourself averge you tranny fuckwit.
>Screenshots across multiple years can easily be faked
The absolute amount of effort to do this is insane, and then you'd also have to have people corroborate that they are real, and the people mentioned in the screenshots would have to mention that they are fake, but you can see that some of the screenshots reference each other over multiple servers, via multiple people, that it'd be an actual legitimate undertaking to fake this, and fake it well enough to look authentic.

Just face it, this is your death trannytard.
>>
>>736108570
Why are trannies literally ALWAYS despicable? I have never even heard of one that could be compared to a good person
>>
>>736123375
>out of context posts from their private circle leak out to stir up even more drama
EVERY
FUCKING
TIME.
>>
>>736112507
Arcade emulation is extremely inconsistent because catchall emulators like MAME have to contend with extremely different hardware between different games, and even games that use the same base board have extremely different timings and other components to factor in depending on when they were manufactured. NES emulation is extremely accurate and the hardware is fixed and fully understood in all situations, which allows for precise emulation.
Besides that the glitch Mitchell got only happened in that version of MAME if you're using slowdown hacks.
>>
>>736150159
>post real leaked screenshots = people believe them, while the trannies will delete those conversations and claim the screenshots are fake
>post fake screenshots that look real and paint a believable narrative = people will believe them, while trannies will say they are fake
And it doesn't take that much time or effort to fake this shit.
I'm not saying those screenshots are fake, just saying it's not proof of anything. It's some of the weakest form of evidence.
>>
>>736105295
>speed troons

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffu12naB4-Q
>>
File: channels4_profile.jpg (38 KB, 900x900)
38 KB
38 KB JPG
who is the biggest faggot in the speedrunning community
>>
>>736146979
>admin only accepted my run AFTER he made a run beating mine using my strats with nothing new added, just performed a bit better
What kind of a massive faggot do you have to be to do something this pathetic?
>>
Why are speedrunners like this?
Is it the autism?
>>
>>736123375
>usage of slurs
The absolute faggotry
>>
>>736151534
They're largely progressives, and despite claiming moral superiority, progressives are almost always the worst people you will ever encounter
>>
>Speed runner makes a detailed account of what happened
>/v/ just wants to make this into identity politics

Epstein won
>>
>>736152002
>tarnny does typical tranny things
>everyone notices
>this is somehow Epstein related
>>
>>736146979
>admin only accepted my run AFTER he made a run beating mine using my strats with nothing new added, just performed a bit better
let spite fuel you and btfo his run and make sure to rub it in
>>
>>736152115
You'll keep losing until you stop treating pattern recognition as evil and wrong
>>
I've seen no proof that the other guy is a tranny
>>
>>736153134
Here is your proof
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1Tlqfl3CxM
>>
>>736152468
meant for >>736152002
>>736152468
sorry dude
>>
>>736153439
FUCK the "sorry dude" was meant for
>>736152115
>>
>>736146979
>literal who ps2 rpg only i ever played
game?
>>
File: 1744261643590390.png (148 KB, 895x539)
148 KB
148 KB PNG
>>736151278
jorl kwabst
>>
bump
>>
>>736105502
No shit? TASes say TAS in the title, they're not trying to trick you into thinking it's a human playing.
>>
>>736115284
nta but speedrun websites are notorious for being run by draconian troons and psychos
>>
>/v/ is unironically full of "emulators are cheating" boomers
>>
>>736157968
They are when they give an advantage, yes
>>
>>736151739
i just don't see a bunch of speedrunning autists give a single fuck about politics. it doesn't add up.
>>
>>736158369
Entire speedrunning events got taken over because of politics
>>
>>736105295
Anyone who cares about any speedruns in any capacity is either a mentally ill tranny or a mentally ill retard on the way to become a tranny.
>>
Speedrunners just make up rules and categories to justify their autism and then suck themselves off. End of discussion.
>>
>>736158369
Failed men, who never fit in with and may have been bullied by their more masculine peers, and who have also been indoctrinated to see masculinity as toxic and backwards, are very vulnerable to grooming. The groomers tell them they can stop being failed men and instead become cute anime girls, which is of course a lie.
>>
>>736158435
>>736158676
Entryism is also a factor. Groups of socially akward autists who just want to enjoy their hobby are vulnerable to being taken over by politically minded power hungry narcissists
>>
>>736106919
Billy Mitchell broke existing rules
but it's his reaction to people talking about it that makes him so despised, if he just owned up to his mistake nobody would care
>>
>>736128164
lotad's (low optimization tool assisted demonstration) have been a thing for many years, why be so autistic about semantics?
>>
>>736129227
Niftski has to switch controllers because the input isnt possible, you'd be exposed in a second
>>
>>736158598
the funny thing is that speedrunning communities also have their own set of rules. For example I can think of several speedrunners where switching controller during play IS the meta.
>>
>>736113658
based. fuck humans
>>
Speedrunners are mentally ill
>>
>>736105295
>the tranny runner is the community villain
huh thats kind of surprising, arent they supposed to be super inclusive or whatever?
>>
>>736108960
No, he's the one trannies hate
>>
>>736112659
That's bigoted towards the hardware
>>
>>736105438
lmao
>>
why do some people throw out all logic and reasoning the second they see the letters "TAS"?
>>
>>736162318
Because reading with comprehension causes them mental fatigue. It's easier to focus on one phrase and guess the rest themselves.



[Advertise on 4chan]

Delete Post: [File Only] Style:
[Disable Mobile View / Use Desktop Site]

[Enable Mobile View / Use Mobile Site]

All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective parties. Images uploaded are the responsibility of the Poster. Comments are owned by the Poster.