>Toby Fox will not give an official Spanish translation to Deltarune because it goes against his creative vision. Toby would never compromise his v- AAAACK
Toby Fox will not translate UT/DR to anything else other than English/Japanese because HE DOESN'T KNOW ANY OTHER LANGUAGE. I hate that stupid wannabe Jap but how is this so hard to understand?
>>736107319>singular visual alteration is the same thing as translating thousands of sentence and jokes into a different languageWhy are South Americans so dumb?
>>736107423Then pay somebody else to do it. Toby has a team for a reason.
>>736107319That scene was about lesbian rape btw.
>>736107423Why can toby fraud hire a jewish lawyer to issue takedowns for music inspired by the game, but he cant hire a translator? Knowing the underground community, they would do it for free too.
>>736107319Would you consider deltarune and Undertale thematically deep and complex compared to other games?
>>736107757Correct. Lesbian relationships are built on domestic violence, so it's an accurate representation.
>>736107319Can you shitskins die in a shootout already. When will you learn that no one gives a fuck about you or your third world shitholes.
my english is not the best. why dont toby just hire translater for other languages. does he hate fans
>>736107757>Noelle liked it in the end>the Player liked it>Kris hated it the entire time (or liked it too but was in deep denial, assuming Eram was telling the truth)Hmmm
Sorry, brownoid, Toby only wants to be friends with Japanese people.
>>736108145What's preventing Spanish/Portuguese BR speaking fans from making translation patches themselves? Doing an official LATAM translation would just already add on to the inflated dev time of Deltarune, especially if people are thinking he's going to have said translation launch the day of the new chapter(s) coming out. If he's ever going to do more translations it will be after the full game is out, and even then he'd have to scout for the right people who are up to his standards. The west gets super fucked on anime/manga/vidya localization, and trust me you don't want to have some fuckwit who happens to speak your language bastardizing the art you love to appease people who have zero interest in it in the first place.
>>736108069That's hot...
Imagine doing a cartel execution to Toby lol
>>736108804i thought he was like hideo kojima and befriends english too
>>736108861I think people want it to avoid a situation like OFF's English translations where there were two and people couldn't agree on which one to use due to differences in accuracy and prose quality. I don't know if the remaster's translation has been backported to the original game or not, or if it's superior to the previous two in the first place, but for most of the game's life you had multiple fan translations competing with each other
>>736107319You seem to be mistaken, child. Here: let me help you.Toby will not translate the game into your language because he doesn't want to.There need be no further explanation. No amount of crying on 4chan will change his mind.I know it's hard because you have awful parents, but you're going to have to learn to accept "no" as an answer. Preferably before you end up maced.
>>736108145He hired people to translate Undertale into japanese. The issue isn't that he can't hire people, it's that he can't be involved in the process as part of the translation team.
>>736108861>workshop not supported so people have to fiddle with files>zoomers are tech illiterate
>>736108167Kris seems to have had problems with violent impulses (see egg room in Chapter 4). The Weird Route is probably only possible because she still has those impulses deep down, but just like an intrusive thought having it doesn't mean you wanna act on it.
>>736107319When you see another Latinx like OP having a melty over this, just remember that the reason they're so booty blasted is because they read a shitty mistranslation of what Toby actually said, proving him right
>>736107730>Pay someone to do it!Nah, I'm good.
>>736107730he saw what happened to Silksong when they trusted someone else to do that, he doesn't want chinese reviewbombing
>>736107319>>736107573>Sans in japanese just uses a random ass regular font>still called sans
>>736109575Yeah, that's his name.
>>736109293And that's really the crux of it, it's a lose/lose situation for Toby and the LATAM fanbase. He either bends the knee and fast tracks a translation to not balloon dev time which would have a high chance of failing to meet the expectations of the community or he ignores them driving fans to make competing fan patches and endlessly bicker over which is the superior one. At least in the latter scenario the game gets finished sooner, so that's the road I take.
>>736109546>no Chinese translation>chinks reviewbomb game>pay for Chinese translation>chinks still reviewbomb gameThere is no winning with Chinks.
>>736109575>cocoa pickers are unironically reposting their Facebook memes hereFlags and IDs on all boards NOW
>>736107319I wonder how long this drama is going to be milked for. He really shouldn't have responded.
I find it ironic that brown people will invade other countries and not learn the language but have an absolute meltdown when their tranny game isn’t translated
>>736107423Are you retarded? Do you actually think Toby wastes time doing the translations himself?
>>736107319We are NOT doing this.
>>736109613>>736109763>Sans, Papyrus and WD Gaster talking in regular text>artistic vision
>>736110076>WD Gaster talking in regular textPlay the game senor
>>736109475this post is true, though?
>>736109575Japanese has serif and sans-serif fonts too you know.
>taco taco burrito tacoI'm not reading your slop.
>>736110228So why didnt he use those?>>736110135Sorry kiddo, thats not UT
>>736109905I'm thinking five more days if he keeps his mouth shut. He could launch another wave of the smile arg as a distraction
>>736110074Why are they rewriting history? The only ones who called it a rape allegory were 4chan. Nobody else cared.
>>736109909TRVKE
MEXICANS...They only think about Tacos... THEY'RE BROWN!
>>736107319noelle was raped, toby trying to "correct" this won't change a thing
>>736110279Go ahead and post Entry #17 in UT's Japanese translation. I'll wait.
>>736110285>who called it a rape allegory were 4channo, alot of people on xitter/bsky did>only 4chan caredtrue
>>736110279>So why didnt he use those?but... he did. all the normal npc dialogue uses a standard serif font. sans uses a sans-serif font. papyrus uses an old font and talks in vertical text
>>736110343>noelle>rape>correctionhnnng
>>736110360>UT's Japanese translation>giving a fuck about some secondary language
>>736110318Who would be Caine in a UTDR AU? Gaster? The Player?
>>736110409
>>736110318actually they only think about tamales
>anons continue to have a crying meltdown because toby told spic america to get fucked for the time being
>>736110279>>736110439nah he has you on the ropes there lol
>>736109475>just remember that the reason they're so booty blasted is because they read a shitty mistranslation of what Toby actually saidYou know it just hit me. Toby's getting crap from Latin Americans about releasing his games in english but not spanish and made his response to try and pacify them... in English.This is the guy who made a game all about pacifying people and Toby apparently sucks at in irl.
>>736110521This shows you how much of 4chan is literally brown third worlders.
>>736110512Unironically the player.>tries to help kris>kris throws him into cages or hits him with a hockey stick>kris does this nonstop despite every good thing he does>finally just stops caring and does bad shit for fun/weird route
>>736110587>Anon finally realizes all of Toby Fox's actions are purely perfomative to milk children out of money and engagemente via theoryfarmingHomestuck 2, everybody
>>736107730I would expect it to be a possible font issue with how shitty Gamemaker is. If the game's font doesn't support all the unique characters you'd need for other languages, that's almost a nonstarter for localization.
>>736110140>Yeah? Well, I didn’t wanna play your JEW game anyway!Mexicucks and their ilk are too funny when they cope.
>>736110521We are genuinely getting raided by Latinx facebook kids and sharteens just posting whatever bullshit they think will get a (You) out of people
guys i have a bad feeling that on april 2nd, toby is going to delay chapter 5 for a full deltarune spic translationi only hope he starts AFTER chapter 5, but even then, the game will be delayed
>>736110515Okay now compare that to this font, Pablo.
>>736110587In his defense, or not really, Undertale's message is utterly retarded and only works in its fantasy world, applying it in real life is naive at best and completely idiotic and counterproductive at worst.
>>736107319I hope Toby get radicalised to become a racist chud.
>>736110758It also doesn't help Twitter's currently shitting itself, so the Latinx are extra furious that they have to go into yet another gringo community to bitch and moan about this.
>>736110785Thats toby's jobI dont worship japanese cock like he does anyway
>>736110835being a racist is the most normalized thing you can do
>>736107319>game is based heavily on idioms, innuendos, double meanings, and plays-on-words>why wont he translate itnigger how would it be translated? literal translation wouldnt make sense and there just arent parallels in every language for all this shit. if it was translated, it'd be nothing but Treehouse posting because the literal translation reads like a 1990s eroge and actual localization would lead to all the word play being changed.
>>736110785ningen nantesassatohoron jaeNo problem.
>>736109905All the way until Chapter 5, then all will magically be forgiven. Even if this drama blew over, another one would start, and it'd keep going until Chapter 5 because ultimately all of these dramas are stemming from terminally online cunts who don't do anything except obsess over UTDR.
ATTENTION EVERYONE!I am fat. I am brown. I am retarded. And I am from a third world country. My opinion of myself is overly self-inflated and I want everyone to know I'm angry at Toby Fox o algo!
>>736110280Yeah, that's his best bet. Keep his mouth shut and release new ARG lore. Hopefully that distracts everyone from this drama and we return to regular posting.
>>736110953>says this while japanese is one of the most boring fucking languages everIt cant be helped
>>736110835>implying he wasn't already
Premarital unprotected baby-making teen pregnant human-on-monster sex with Noelle HolidayThank you.
>>736111081cope trannylator
>>736111146>trannylatorUh... isnt that anything english / american based?
>2 jevils instead of 1 black joker and 1 red jokerlaaaaame
>>736110976>>736111081People who don't know Japanese or English are not entitled to have an opinion here.
>>736111104As your pic shows, all he had to do with get away with it is not talk about it. It's that easy, and he blew it.
>>736110521I think it's just Toby haters using this as a chance to shit on him. All because of no news. Oh well.
>>736111137This but it's Noelle impregnating Kris.
>>736111283Given that this involved a production company for live concerts, I can believe there was probably more pressure to make a statement.
>never cared to look at deltarune r34 cause I only expect to find retarded fetish shit like vore and diapers and whatever as is common with furry>Noelle and Kriselle living rent free in my head ever since chapter 4 came out>find butterchalk's artgood lordthose few pieces might be enough for me but would be neat if people commission more
>>736111283No, he got away with it because he was an edgy teenager when he made Halloween Hack and declared HH an old shame that people shouldn't look into.
>>736111457
>>736110995Chapter 5 is months away...
>>736111465So hw got away with it because the internet worships him and decided to make him an exception exempt from his past work?
>>736111137Haha, imagine sticking your hand out and catching her pussy juice droplets so that you can taste them. Wouldn’t that be so weird, haha.
>>736111226Seam was supposed to be the red joker... Toby FORGOT him again.
>>736107319What a hack spanish and Portuguese "people" have "determnatiõn" word too
>>736111521Would Kris be a good mother?
>>736111665Determination was just a concept stolen from MOTHER 2 anyway
>>736111457>Futaslop
>>736111437Notice how the "humans" in Toby Fox's games are not brown
I, for one, am glad this controversy is adding yet more evidence FemKris is real.
>>736107319I'm not sure why you'd translate anything into Spanish for any reason. Tell the subhumans to learn English, its better than they deserve.
>>736111750My wife Clover...
>>736111753I wonder how much Toby regrets having The Girl mural be depicted using a sword instead of an axe if THIS is the kind of mentally ill and utterly illiterate conclusion people can reach.
>>736111807your wife is retarded
>>736111671Frisk would be the only good human mother.
>>736111804Since america is already 3rd world, people realized mexico is thr only placw where people still make fun of trannies, faggots and women openly and even on live tv
I-Is anybody going to the Undertale concert ITT?
>>736111876It's okay I still love her.
>>736111940You cant be underage and on 4chan, anon
>>736111750They're all white or asian, Toby HATES browns.
>>736111463We love the doe, don't we folks?
>>736107319I like when tranny pixelshit is so bad that you can't even tell what the fuck is going on
>>736111940>closest one to me is in San JoseI'll think about it.
>>736111753Unironically how? Toby won't gender the humans in anyway, FemKris or not.
>>736111750I like how Frisk is basically an asian caricature but japs and troons alike just let it slide.
>>736112093Toby is an honorary jew, so he can get away with anything>>736112070He wont translate the game to any gendered language.
>>736112006Yes, but I love the Doelester more.
>>736112093>EAT THE CHICKEN, SANS!
>>736111554Yeah
>>736112070Latin languages are not gender-neutral. The neutral option is masculine, meaning Kris's gender ambiguity would not work. The twist of "well, we never said Kris was a man :^)" would fall flat.
>Tony doesn't speak spic so he doesn't let others officially alter his vision and let it be misinterpreted, since he's unable to personally oversee it>Tony changes a graphic because retards were misinterpreting it>somehow this is contradictory behavior
>>736112070You're talking to a delusional schizo, just ignore it
>>736110140I don't get it. If you can understand what is being said in those screenshots, why are you complaining? Why make a seething "comic" about something you can comprehend?
>>736112265So does kris need his soul to exist in the dark world, anon?
Spics are genuinely the bane of the modern internet. Makes you wonder how people this retarded even get access to the internet.
>>736111986I'm 30
>>736112379I dunno, we haven't seen Kris's soul
>>736112379Seems like it
>>736112265Meanwhile, Japan gets a direct statement that Kris needs the SOUL to be in the Dark Worlds, which is actually vital to understanding why Kris puts up with (You), something English did not communicate in the slightest beyond the extremely vague "Kris... SOUL... Dark World...".
>>736112452Why would Carol talk to Kris like he isn't there
>>736112171Fair enoughbut I want to be the one doing the raping
>>736112215So you're saying the gendered language would force Toby to reveal Kris is a girl, then? Because I feel like Toby would just not let Kris be gendered anyways, FemKris or not.
>>736112501>dog nosekill this stupid drawfag immediately
>>736112379I got that from what text we had in english, anon.You might just be fucking stupid.
>>736112452Kris will die in real life without his soul? Omg
>>736112093Japanese women would rather self-insert as Frisk. They love her.
Deltatroon
>>736112549They're retarded, gender neutral declensions are a thing
>>736112493>something English did not communicate in the slightest>... Kris... dark world... no soul... can't...>Without... soul... Kris... will...WOOOOOOW HOW WERE YOU SUPPOSED TO KNOW?
>>736112549Yes. In English you can be a girl and still use neutral they/them pronouns. That doesn't work in other languages without marxist neologisms.
>>736108861Pretty sure there are already a bunch of Spanish fan translations for both UT and DR. No idea about the huehues though
>>736110587>Toby's getting crap from Latin Americans about releasing his games in english but not spanish and made his response to try and pacify them... in English.To be fair most of those latrinos are bitching about Toby in English too
>>736112651>kris cant enter dark world without soul>kris will fail without soul>kris will die without soul>kris cant fulfill the prophecy without soul
>>736112694>In English you can be a girl and still use neutral they/them pronounsNo you can't.
>>736112651This line conveys nothing about Kris's inability to enter dark worlds without a soul because it's too busy being vague and mysterious to fuel ESL theorizers for months on end into coming up with some Woody Theory bullshit. It could just as much mean>Without the soul, Kris will not be able to seal fountains>Without the soul, Kris will not be able to light the darkness that creates TitansMeanwhile the JPN line is incredibly direct and clear about the intention "Without the soul, Kris cannot enter the dark world", because Toby trusts his JPN fans to theorize within reason and come to their own simple conclusions that are usually correct.
>>736112651It's perfectly reasonably to interper that to mean "Kris cannot seal dark fountains without a soul", which we already knew.
>>736112379>>736112452>States he wants translations to not be misinterpreted>Details slightly vague shit more clearly in Japanese because of the structure of the language being radically different and it having difficulty with incomplete statementsAgain, no contradictions here
>>736112495>>736112452How do we know it's Carol and not someone else? Sans for example (cell phones are symbolically related to Gaster and the meta narrative)Separately, there are two knights as per the image used in Ralsei's first explanation of the Roaring and Titans.I am also a believer that Ralsei and Eram are sibling entities (cherubs in fact), the game itself, Hometown, and the dark worlds are all Homestuck kernels
>>736112396That goes for all third worlders in general, giving them cheap Chinese phones was a mistake
>>736112694I guess, but I feel like if FemKris had to happen Toby could just make it a reverse trap situation in those languages. His autism is what stops him.
>>736112921>so the original language never gets updated so they can misinterpret it as much as toby desiresI see anon genius gaijin
>>736112797They/them doesn't change your birth sex, anon.
>>736112921So why didn't the English script get updated to clarify for the sake of parity? Why does Japanese get the more direct and clear meaning of the line, I.E. favoritism and a direct advantage in understanding Deltarune's narrative because there is no vague mystery to unravel based on a fragmented sentence, while English theorizers are stuck mulling over what he meant by a line that's deliberately vague and doesn't actually convey any real, concrete information?
>>736112939I think you're grasping at straws here, it's safe to assume Carol is talking in the cellphone, especially considering Kris calls her again when Susie gets her hands on the guitar, and at the end of Chapter 4. I'm just saying tread with a bit less autism.
>>736110835someone post the negro town post from starmen.net
>>736112171Based and same.
>>736110587
>>736112749So you agree that "Kris needs the SOUL" was successfully conveyed to you in English.>>736112834Toby did not include additional information in JP as a secret treat for the fans. "can't" became "can't enter" by necessity of how Japanese grammar works.>the JPN line is incredibly direct and clearThis is just a lie. It doesn't tell us anything about why Kris "can't enter."The English line is "... Kris... dark world... no soul... can't..." It is already clear that Kris needs the SOUL in the Dark World. The conveyance is the same, there's no meaningful distinction here.You don't know Japanese, stop repeating bullshit you got from Reddit.
>>736113229Carol isn't necessarily the only caller
>>736113095That wouldn't work because aside from maybe Susie, everyone knows Kris is really a girl. Going the reverse trap route would require them to be actively lying.
>>736107319don’t carepost more off-model anthro women>>736110318hey buddy, you have to be 18 or older to visit this ‘site, okay?
>>736113346Yes but you don't need something to be explicitly told to be true to assume it's true. Just as some things are true because they're agree with a previous pattern or because the consequences of that are true.From a writing standpoint, telling things straight up without any sort of nuance and vagueness is bad writing, and Toby isn't a bad writer.
>>736109763>cocoa pickersKek, thats a good one, surprised this is the first time I've heard it.
>>736113307Which part of Resident Evil 4 is this? The cabin attack scene?
>>736112006Indeed
>>736113225>>736113113Because only absolute retards don't understand what the english is trying to convey
>>736112921Does that logic also apply to "LOVE FINDS ITS WAY TO THE GIRL"? Because the jap version of that phrase also has a completely different meaning to the OG.
>>736113314>>736113452>Kris needs le soul for... um... something in the dark worldVERSUS>Kris needs the soul because soulless beings cannot enter the dark worldIt's not just about confirming that Kris needs the soul, it's confirming a major fucking worldbuilding detail that raises serious questions about the nature of the dark worlds, and furthermore, adds EVEN MORE intrigue to the origins of The Roaring Knight, because if the Knight isn't a Darkner (since it can exist in the light world, something no Darkner can do), then it can't be a soulless Lightner, otherwise it literally cannot exist in dark worlds.
You are NOT allowed to enjoy Undertale if you can't speak Toby Fox's preferred languages.
>>736113349I see, but you can say the same about they/them in general. They are already hiding their gender in your theory.
>>736113450uhhh sauce?help a brotha out
>>736113726i wonder how many little kids learnt english by either playing undertale or engaging with the fandom
lMAO
Hey at least he didn't call them "latinx"
>>736113704So, you're retarded, then? Nice to know.
>>736113756I gotchu senpaibutterchalk
>>736113726Actually you can't enjoy it if you aren't japanese. You will always be a second class citizen if not (spics don't have human rights)
>>736113748All Undertale/Deltarune characters refer to humans as they/them due to a cultural quirk. Nobody is actively trying to deceive anyone about Kris's sex, which allows for the twist to happen without a conspiracy involving the entire cast.
>>736111463retard just search noelle_holiday order:score rating:e on e621 and most of the art will be goodyou can add stuff like -futa, -lesbian, -bestiality, -vore etc. to the search to filter away shit you don't like but besides futa/lesbian/bestiality/loli there's not much that is objectionable and makes it to the high score pages
>>736113756bro read the first post from the chainit's that very same artist I mentioned, hence why I posted it
>>736113609>LOVE finds it's way to the Girl>The Girl finds out the true meaning of LOVEFun fact about Prophecy, anon:Neither of these are going to be literally what happens. The event described by them will only loosely fit either description.
>>736107319That's just Toby being nice mi firjolito, the real reason he's not translating shit is because you faggots are insufferable
>>736113827Again, nothing about the English line hard confirms "Kris can't enter the dark world without a soul.""Without soul, Kris will..." and "Kris, dark world, without soul, can't," can mean any number of things.It's vague for the sake of vagueness. But the JP version concretely, as was previously stated, iterates that "can't" was localized into "can't enter." which IMMEDIATELY gives clear meaning to the fragmented dialogue.
>>736107757Jaru…
>>736112396I thought that was supposed to be indians? Can't keep up with you lot.
>>736114083Jaru believes in FemKris yet will never EVER make a video about it. Hypocrite.
>>736113994monkeys, translate this
>>736114021Anon, he caters to trannies. No one is more insufferable than them
ok genuine discussion time what the hell would happen to kris without the spul in the dark world?im assuming the dark world assumes they are an object and they would turn into a darkner but what? i dont think it would just be another knight because i feel like theres some additional deep darkness/the depths shit going on with it i bet were gonna see it since THE GIRL will get the soul
>>736114210No, he caters to japs. It's just that trannies co-opted a lot of their likes from japs (cross-dressing, yuri, yaoi, loli, shota, etc.) so there's overlap.
>>736113756@MerrowLover
>>736114039Retarded and Autistic? Nice combination.One last (you) for the road, and I hope you get the treatment you need.
>>736114210>Anon, he caters to trannies.Proof?
>>736114147qrd?
>>736114210No he caters to Gnostics.
>>736114108Spics, jeets, niggers, towelheads. They all shit up the web
>>736107319>Niggers posting the rose scene every fucking time like clockwork.Whats the matter? Afraid Kris might get called ella?
>>736113994Damn, trannies look like that?
>>736114318>no refutation, no effort to prove the english script is just as comprehensive as JP localizing "can't" into "can't enter", IMMEDIATELY conveying what the dialogue is supposed to be about>just leaves it at "lol retard autist, get bent" and declares himself the winner of the argumentI accept your concession. See you in Chapter 5 when Toby makes more vague, meaningless dialogue for English while Japan gets the straight dope yet again!
>>736109763>cocoa pickers
>>736114342That is the QRD. He's a coomer who headcanons Kris as female but will never talk about the actual FemKris theory because it's wrongthink. He'll cover literally anything else besides that (see pic).
Gonna laugh if a bunch of spics cause Kris to be revealed as a guy.
>>736112396>>736114396blame trump's decision
>>736114342Closest he will ever get to implying FemKris is when he theorizes that Kris takes Dess because she took Asriel from her.
>>736114326he's probably talking about the lion tranny wearing a dress and mew mew
>>736111463>butterchalk drew noelle nsfwsexoooooooo>Wait, What?Butterchalk is Gen Z???
>>736113372kys cumgarggling faggot
>>736114631I can believe Toby is into incest. He did give us Chasriel content in the anniversary after all.
>>736114039>>736114318>actually check the japanese text, curious cause of all this crap and this sperg>it's just as vague as in english, if not even more vagueJesus fucking christ these spics are ridiculous.Just parroted some bullshit from somewhere, probably some other spic's video full of misinfo, and has literally NO idea what he's talking about.
>>736114693Oldest Gen Z are in their late twenties, I'm turning 25 in a couple of months. Time flies.
>>736111753>toby is a faggot who refuses to translate his game to “chud languages” that won’t let him keep kris an ebny troon>this somehow proves kris has a pussyGenuinely HOW
>>736107319zun refuses to localize touhou in any language yet people tongue his ballsack daily.
THE WHITE MAN IS LOSING ANOTHER CRITICAL ARYAN ALLY AGAINST THE JEWS, REPENT RIGHT NOW, WHITEBOI, OR FACE YOUR IMMINENT EXTINCTION AT THE HAND OF THE BNWO/ZIONISM
>>736114885Those two don't even count as pseudoincest.
>>736111580I wonder if /v/ or /k/ lusts over deer more often these days
>>736111940No we’re all poor
they isn't a neutral pronoun, only trannies think otherwise.
>>736107319Why do Spaniards sperg out instead of using this as an incentive to learn English? Why do they act so entitled and cocky?
>>736114318>>736113827>>736113314embarrassing concession, not even that anon, christ.
>>736114945>enby>not a mentally ill woman who hates herself what planet are you from
>>736115094What gender is "they"?
>>736115106Inspired by the superbowl half time show
>>736114435no
>>736109635Yeah but one option involves paying someone to localize and the other option involves not paying to localize
>>736114908>26 in two monthsOmg Toby please hurry up, I don't want to be playing this in my 30s
>>7361149564chan is an anime imageboard anon
>>736115106Comes with low IQ. If it's too hard to learn a language then the alternative is to try your best and be as prideful as you can of your own language and ask others to accommodate to you.
>>736114889Don't forget, this whole drama especially started because of disingenuous reports that interpreted and summarized Toby's statement as "THE JEW GRINGO WILL NEVER EVER MAKE SPANISH OR PORTUGAL TRANSLATIONS, EVER" just so they could all FINALLY start lashing out at him after 10 years of resentment that didn't yet have a justification.
>>736115137Erm sorry chud but Shayy was/were non-binary. CHECKMATE
>>736115121>>736114448retarded confession, still denied like your pregnant mom
>>736115348>of disingenuous reports that interpreted and summarized Toby's statement as "THE JEW GRINGO WILL NEVER EVER MAKE SPANISH OR PORTUGAL TRANSLATIONS, EVER" jThats literally what he said, though, might even be putting it lightlyThe mistranslation narrative doesnt work when he had the ALT text on bsky written out for anyone to translate
>>736115204You're already older than Toby was when he made it big with Undertale.
>>736114448See, anon, the thing that makes you retarded is the fact you took the bait twice.Thrice is just glorious.
>>736109546do people really not hire playtesters to test their translations?
>>736115106They already do speak English that’s why burgers know about them complaining. Spics might just be the most cucked people on earth even pure Spaniards are jobbers
Speaking as an ESL, if your country has average IQ the population will know English well enough to play video games. Our TV stations air English shows with subs. Only literal toddlershit gets dubbed. From this I conclude spics are just too stupid to learn English.
>>736115250Wrong
>>736115171Truely a sad day.
>>736115420Anon didnt abuse and use child labor for homestuck tho, nor lived with his hero Andrew
>>736110701fantranslations can do it fine without access to the source codethe main roadblock would be just the way the text is done in the game in the first place, it is a mess
>>736115140schrodinger gender.
Didn't know spanish only plebs (SOPs) were a thing.
>>736115204You won't.I hit thirty and immediately lost interest in this sort of chungus-aesthetic/style/genre whatever you call it.I enjoyed chapter one, when two came out I replayed chapter one for ten minutes and couldn't give less of a fuck.
>>736113913True, but Toby could say they're lying in the spic version. There's changes in translations. Not like this matters as Toby will never ever gender his humans because of his autism.
>>736115540Is the entire game's text still stored in one giant switch statement?
>bro just use a fan translation
>>736115517It's pure entitlement. They hate that their native tongue has to be treated as secondary whenever they want to do anything that isn't with their own homeland, so they lash out at Americans and call them the equivalent of niggers every step of the way, all while simultaneously demanding they cater to them.
>>736115573How the hell is Deltarune a chungus game? There's nothing ironic about it.
>>736114885Chara and Asriel were only considered siblings by the random monsters though.
>>736115629Kek
>>736115546An interesting pivot by the spics, but ultimately futile. The Toby Engine will easily be able to deal with this.
>>736107319When Toby talks about his "vision" for the translation, he's referring to his autistic need to codify every character's Japanese speech pattern and nuances. It has nothing to do with fonts, as some others have suggested in this thread, or a subconscious rape allegory.
>>736115140Most of them.
>>736115629>Making Kris a FTM yet again.
>>736115573Then what the fuck are you doing here?
>>736115770>>736115557You aren't answering the question. You said there's no such thing as gender neutral pronouns. So what gender is "they"?
>>736115527>abuse and use child labor for homestuckbut that was Hussie, not Toby. if anything, Toby would be among the kids mister juggalo took advantage of. wasn't he like 15-16 when he first started making music for Homestuck?
>>736115629Translation?
>>736115827No matter how many ways you have to doll it up to seem woke enough, the consensus is the same: Kris is so obviously a boy that everyone who can't see that fact is delusional, and if it wasn't for Toby's autism about being vague with human genders and Shayy grooming the entire fandom into "THE HUMANS ARE NONBINARY, CHUD" despite Toby offering zero confirmation of this himself, then everyone would agree Kris is "probably a guy" without hte performative bullshit..
>>736115890Something something Kris is a man but born as a chick so she's trans. Sans wants to laugh about it.
>>736115849Literally unknown. As in "huh, there's someone at the door. I wonder who they are."
>>736115849I didn't say shit, anon. I just answered your question: Most of Them
>>736115931But they made Kris into a biogirl in thar meme????
>>736115621not this time but it is stored inside each npc object in hard coded strings, plus it uses a boolean to switch from english to japanese text
>>736110025he checks all the translation work himself. how the fuck is he going to do that if he doesn't speak spanish, german, etc.
>>736115250Facts. Anime website. Loli website.
>>736115652Isn't that pretty much what the average burger does? They can't even tolerate having to read subtitles.
>>736114908I know how old Gen Z is.>>736115204Honestly, it ain't so bad.>>736115573Damn, it hits hard to realize it's been almost 8 years.
>>736116085>it is stored inside each npc object in hard coded stringsOof. That makes adding additional languages a pain in the ass. It really isn't that hard to load it from an external json, Toby.
>>736116025Again, performative wokeness. You can't just say Kris is a boy, you have to woke-ify it by saying "yeah Kris is biologically female, but became nonbinary, and then decided to present transmasculine" so you don't get canceled, with a few "relatable" memes about Kris dealing with periods and Susie going "holy shit cool scars dude, where'd you get those".
>>736115890>Sans I want you to meet Kris.>He is my son.>He is a guy, he was born as a girl but he is a boy now.>And I feel proud.>He's a trans guy!>(You sense how Sans holds back the urges to say)>("hi trans, I'm Sans")
>>736116269I think it's more so they don't like Kris being a normal guy so she got to be gay and trans.
>>736116273Huh, I don't remember that sequence happening in Deltarune. Must have missed it.
>>736116364>guy*girl
>>736115684Nigga toby fox is the most irony poisoned fag around, you fell for the meme.
>>736115687>lived under the same roof as the Dreemurrs>Ate at the same table as them>shared a room with AsrielThough perhaps not officially adopted, she was very much part of the family. I wouldn't dismiss what those monsters said, that dialogue was written in such a way for a reason.
>>736116470No he isn't. He shits on irony poisoning in chapter 4. The games may be full of chuuni shit, but that's because he likes it. It's all genuine.
>>7361152042029 full game release date. Enjoy WAITing.
>>736116273>Sans holding back a single jokeTruly the worst localization on the planet
>>736115830Saw his post when scrolling the front page, and came back just when I took a shit.
>>736112006At what age will Noelle lose those spots?
>>736115578>Toby could say they're lying in the spic versionThat would change the plot. Currently, Kris can setup the facade all by herself by getting rid of all the shit in her room. Getting the entire town to lie for her is far harder. That's not longer a translation, you're rewriting the story.
>>736116545>he shits on irony poisoning so he's 100% legitYou.Fell.For.The.Meme.
>no muffet>no flowey I big sad
>>736116490>Asriel only calls Chara his best friend>both Toriel and Asgore never refer to Chara as their kidRather than adoptive incest, it feels more like that weird custom royalty used to do where they would allow the future spouse of their kids to live with them.
>>736116821It's clear Asgore had sky high expectations for Chara too, given that he gave her the "You are the future of humans and monsters" label to live up to, so it's not unfathomable that they might have had a royal marriage in mind now that they were beginning to hold hope about reconnecting with humans for the first time in forever.
>>736107730>>736107773>he cant hire a translator?He doesn't want to run the risk of his works getting Nintendo Treehouse'd if his text is translated to something other than English or Japanese.
>>736116490I meant so that Asriel and Chara don't see each other as siblings, so it wouldn't be incest for them. Just for society.
see? He shouldn't have responded
>>736117048>muh visionAlready debunked the rose fiasco. Money > vision.
>>736117048can't believe toby is a FUCK LOCALIZERS chud...
>>736117171He should have responded with a tweet, not a giant essay. That shows he cares, which is blood for the sharks.
>>736117048Toby's vision is already fragile because he censored the Weird Route rose to avoid getting heat from consoles and the ratings boards.
>>736117186the flower was extremely stupid anyways. The cracked glass effect looks infinitely better
>>736116776Probably the reason he will never ever make a translation for these languages, they will compromise his vision, and he is very autistic about that. Even in JP he was autistic about what determination should be.
>>736117281absolute cope
>>736117317See>>736117186>>736117269
>>736107319>old effect looked like a vagina being deflowered>new effect looks like an anus being shattered
>>736107319Why don't they just do it themselves? Fan translations have been a thing since the early days of the Internet.
Localization that makes Ralsei into a girl.
>>736117341low iq nigger
>>736117398Impossible spics love femboys
>>736117390>why dont they just hold a giant ass concert themselves?
>>736113704>Kris needs the soul because soulless beings cannot enter the dark worldIt didn't say that. You made that up.>it's confirming a major fucking worldbuildingNo, you jumped to a conclusion. You're just running with your headcanon.>>736114039>the JP version IMMEDIATELY gives clear meaning to the fragmented dialogue.It modified "can't" to "can't enter"Why can't Kris enter?Once again, you don't know Japanese. Stop repeating bullshit you read online from other people who don't know Japanese.
>>736117398TransFemRalsei is unironically more popular than FemKris.
>>736117454That's why it's an italian translation.
>>736117467So the japanese translation literally gives out more info for free?Got it
>>736107319What could Toby do that could possibly top making doe breaking canon
>>736117467"can't enter" is brand new information that was NEVER CONVEYED ANYWHERE IN ENGLISH.Even if we don't know WHAT Kris can't enter or WHY, it still raises NEW INFORMATION NOT PRESENT IN THE ENGLISH SCRIPT.
>>736117497Transfem Ralsei is also more controversial though.
>>736117497That's just because trannies weren't able to get neither trans!Susie nor trans!Noelle to be wildly adopted across the fanbase.
>>736117398>>736117454True, but I like gender bender even more.
>>736117586Only if it's presented in the "everyone is trying to groom Ralsei into a troon" sense instead of the "part of Ralsei's 'discovering what it means to be Ralsei' arc is realizing that 'being Ralsei' involves trooning out" way, which actually adheres to Ralsei's character.
>>736117586Maybe to normal people. For the fanbase, it's nowhere close. Transfem Ralsei gets regular discussion and videos, while Fem Kris is verboten.
>>736116821>>736116994I actually have this headcanon sometimes even if I feel like Asgore and Toriel setting a marriage between the two of them feels a bit freaky compared to their regular characters even if it isn't uncommon for royal couples.
>>736117534>>736117583>"can't enter" is brand new informationNo it isn't you fucking monkeys."Kris can't go to the Dark World without the SOUL" is already perfectly clear from the English text.Neither version of the script clarifies why this is this case. There is no new information here. Stop repeating secondhand bullshit, you can't even read English.
>>736117724>"Kris can't go to the Dark World without the SOUL"That's new information. In the English version we knew Kris couldn't do *something* in the dark world. Jap clarifies that it's entering.
>>736116821There's Asgore's pink sweater that says Mr. Dad guy on it. Can't say for sure it's from Chara but the genorun dialogue does imply it is. Either way, I think she was close to being considered as part of the family. It takes time for outside blood to develop a family-like bond.
>>736117452low t autist
>>736107319He changed it because some people interpreted it as literal rape and that wasn't his intention.I'd tell them to learn English, but we all know how well that works.>>736110835He donated to BLM and urged his fans to do the same.
>>736117497>implying Femkris is accepted by the normalfaggots so long as you don’t ACTUALLY call kris a chick>”oh look at kris in this dress ain’t sh-THEY SO GENDER”>”krusie and Kriselle is hecking yuri GOTTA LOVE THOSE GENDERLESS DYKES”>”look at kris’ surgery scars imagine he-THEIR period syncing with Noelle’s literally me”Literally the one faggot who directly CALLS kris a girl is hated for it (also because she regularly bitches about troons lmao)
>>736117497Because one makes a character woker while the other removes the wokeness of a character.
>>736116676Hopefully never
>>736117724>"Kris can't go to the Dark World without the SOUL" is already perfectly clear from the English text.No, it isn't.>... Kris... dark world... no soul... can't...Can't? Can't what? Can't seal fountains? Can't shine light unto absolute darkness? Can't suck dick for crack in a back alley?You CAN intuit "Can't means 'can't enter the dark world'" but it's not set in stone because it's a dialogue fragment that lacks context.Again, JP says "CAN'T ENTER." That already narrows it down massively as to what was meant, and instead of the mystery lingering on a nothingburger "what is it Kris can't do related to dark worlds without a soul?" it now becomes "why can't Kris enter without a soul?"And subsequently, if Kris can't enter without a soul, that raises important questions about the nature of the dark worlds, The Roaring Knight's origins and true nature, and other such things.
>>736110791Flowey states this in the ending, making the entire game pretty pointless.
>>736117963I feel like half of the fandom believes in nonbinary Kris only due to fandom pression.
>>736117457What does that have to do with anything? Hello?
>>736117642>nor trans!Noelle to be wildly adopted across the fanbase.I fucking wish you were right about this
>>736117586For this tranny fanbase, no. Giving the human genders is the worst thing ever for them.
>>736117998And Asriel reaffirms this for IRL with "don't kill, but don't be killed".Which also sucks for IRL because most people now know we live in a world with satanist cannibal pedophiles who sacrifice newborns to Baal and Moloch, and the only way to get rid of them is to completely and utterly wipe them all out, total death, and anything else is a circus act like the No Kings protests.
>>736117998The biggest irony of it all being this is arguably the best part of the game story wise along with the waterfall.
>>736117680>>736117694I know TransFem Ralsei Is more discussed, but at least there's always someone complaining that it's just imposing gender roles on a character that acts out of the norm.
>>736117642Tranny Noelle is still popular.
I just like seeing Toby get pissed on.
>>736114485That's not one of his videos.
>>736117816The conveyance is the same. Learn to read.>>736117984Hey anon can you tell me where you quoted this from earlier?>Kris needs the soul because soulless beings cannot enter the dark worldThis is new information you got from the JP translation, right?You weren't just pulling bullshit out of your ass because you can't read Japanese and are relying on fucking Redditors to tell you about a language you don't understand, right?
>>736112006I FUCKING LOVE RAPING TEENAGERS
>>736118251>t. Dess
>>736117048None of this at any point makes sense.He still had to work with a 'brilliant translator' to bring Undertale to a Japanese audience, he can do the same with other languages.Also him saying he's fine with fanslations is retarded because if he truly cared about>muh integrityHe's be saying he doesn't support them and wants the games to be experienced in English or Japanese.He's, in a way, promoting people to play the version without his integrity.
>>736117998>Flowey states this in the ending, making the entire game pretty pointless.
>>736118125I wonder where the idea that both Chara and Frisk are nonbinary came from. Is it because they both are gender neutral? Is it just trying to impose a gender headcanon like with Kris?
>>736118192>kills trans noelle, femkris, and Asriel knight through sheer retardationI kneel
>>736112495>third-entity fags thinking they have the right to climb out of their hole
>>736118295You would be able to understand what he's saying if you knew English.
>>736117857It's mostly likely from Chara but I still don't think she saw Asriel as an actual brother and vice-versa. I guess Toby just loves keeping things vague for interpretation purposes.
>>736118141Hey now, some of those satanist cannibal pedophiles are on our side. Don't you know that makes it all worth it?
>Toby getting so hot under the collar he breaks his autistic Japanese quirky dev LARP to speak like a normal personFucking hilarious, you love to see it.
>>736115441No one's hiring your broke ass. You aren't qualified.
It's obvious that Toby uses specific words and word combinations to craft themes and foreshadowing, and that's something translators can't translate because only himself knows where these words will lead to.But if that's the case, he should've just said that he needs to finish the games first so the meanings become clear to everyone.And let's be honest, he did let it get to his head a little bit.
>>736118317propaganda and the backwards logic of "if Kris is canonically!!!!1! non-binary, that must mean all other humans are nonbinary too!"
>>736118463Making an apology where you don't actually apologize and take responsibility for anything is spiritually Japanese
>game dev courts leftists>they turn on himEvery single time. Why don't they ever learn allying with leftists is making a deal with the devil?
The memes are funny
>>736118570But Toby is a woke lolicon by nature.
>>736114631what goes wrong in your life to make you talk like this?
I've gained new respect to toby by making so many spics and wetbacks angry that no one respects their garbage ass """"anguage"""""
>>736118624Proof?
Ralsei makes a great dickgirl (m) :3
>>736118570>courtsThey're mad at him because he is explicitly not doing that
>>736118247>はいれな…Literally every translation I've looked at reaffirms that the JP script literally gets clarification the ENG script is not permitted. Nowhere in the ENG script does it say, with zero uncertainty, "can't enter" or anything of similar merit.
>>736118073That’s unironically true. The only reason why retards go along with the “kris is hecking non-binary” slop is because they’re afraid of being yelled at for being bigots by the five troons who actually care. The same applied to suselle until everyone realized the ship isn’t actually popular and it promptly got tarred and feathered(also because troons hated it because susellefags openly see kris as a dude)>proofredditors unironically ship noelle x soul. I somehow doubt this braindead fanbase magically became “more moral” no one cares if they aren’t afraid to being called slurs
>>736118684He loves (kitsune) lolis and is woke. Ergo, a woke lolicon.
>>736118819Soulelle is cool because even women want to rape the doe. Also Krisoul is better.
>>736118317Back in the day people saw Frisk and Chara as whatever they wanted (with most of it being them as sexy girls) and non-binary fags were a minority, but as time passed and Deltarune chapters released, they started gaining a voice until Chapter 2 came out and then they decided Frisk and Chara were also canonically non-binary like Kris supposedly was. I blame e-celebs like Shayy.
>>736117186>>736117269By this logic the vision for snoot game was fucked because they removed the allosaurus scene
>>736118684I have it but I shan't be posting it and giving the burritos any more bullshit to start shit withTrust me bro
>>736118708hes in a lose lose situationhe wants kris to be nonbinary because the idea of gendered humans makes him sorry for being a straight white cisgender manbut if he introduces nongendered language into a spanish translation, he will be crucified even harder by his latam fans
>>736118570Aren’t troons defending him by unironically calling other languages “bigoted”?
>>736118909I unironically blame covid for forcing everyone to be online and join fandoms. Too much terminally people in a fandom will only bring disaster.
>>736117048I don't except Toby to learn every language in the planet, but why not, like, add as many notes as possible for the translator, along with pointing out which lines are very important for his artistic vision (which he could review later with the translator)?
>>736118585This
>>736119025DudeToby takes +3 years per chapterChapters are like 3 hour longs full of reused assets and mostly dialogue writingYou think he cares?
>>736116087That's his choice to be that anal about it.
>>736119025That would take a lot of work and he still wouldn't be able to verify the quality and accuracy of the end result because he doesn't speak their fucking language
>>736118957maybe this fiasco will lead to a linguistic revolution in the latinxsphere
>>736116609He held one back furing the Eggs Husband scene for sure
>>736119104Yes, it is. Glad you understand his position.
If Sans got killed off in chapter 5 by some force outside the player's control, like he gets struck the fuck down during the Roaring and dusts on-screen, would that break the internet?
>>736118909It's basically one big hodgepodge of>modern fandom feels old shame for OG UT fandom, especially the Frans shippers>pedophile groomer ecelebs virtue signaling to make themselves seem innocent because it's IMPOSSIBLE that the guy calling out a coomer for being a coomer is ALSO a coomer>Mandela Effect memory of the "let's play Chapter 1 for no reason" stream where Toby DID say "they" as a correction towards Seam getting he/himmed, but no such thing was ever said about Kris; naturally no one bothers to look back and correct this because it would be problematic and "nonbinary erasure" and Toby is too afraid of poking the hornet's nest by going "uh guys I never actually said that" because fandoms know better than their creators do (see: Homestuck, Steven Universe, etc.)>COVID amplifying the nature of terminally online mental illnessThat led to this whole shitshow, and there's no undoing it because someone's going to get killed or kill themselves over it.
>>736119224A little, especially since it kills the theory that the Sans from Undertale is the same Sans from Deltarune.
>>736118295>>736119025Okay, but why? Why do that?
>>736119202So when the FP says>how is this so hard to understand?The crux is that people are criticising him for being so anal. Question is why the FP finds that hard to understand.
>>736117668Based
Which character will have "the" theme? Whether it's Megalo, Penumbra, Reverie, whatever "the" theme of Deltarune will be. Who will get it in their boss fight?
>>736119343>The crux is that people are criticising him for being so analif you know anything about the history of videogame localization you will understand why
Has this thing really made femkris more popular? I thought even the troons defaulted to Kris being masculine-coded in fanart
>>736119498it's Xeno
>>736119196in that case he wasn't holding on, he was straight up stunlocked
>>736119498
>>736107730You are so fucking stupid.
>>736119498ME.
>>736115931I would argue with you but even the two girl kris truthers have unironically argued “well everyone EXPECTS kris to be a guy so him being a girl would be more subversive for tony”. Not I single soul would be shocked by kris having a penis.
>>736119498Assuming the Weird Route truly does go out in a big final boss fight all of its own, the meme song probably goes to Susie.
>>736119610>Falling for the ruseshiggydiggy
>>736119706
Kris is the girl.
>>736119512But by that logic that game is already doomed because it'll be translated by fans regardless.Hell at least by having an official translation Toby would have means to minimise the damage himself. Even if he has to hire someone to tell him if there's anything weird going on.
>There will be no official translations aside from jap or english because it's done in houseIn other words, Toby is telling localisers to go fuck themselves.
>>736119498>>736119610>>736119706>confirms to penumbratroons that its not in the game because the creator fucking died>STILL coping about it to this day and its all apart of the ruseKEKAROO
>>736111940I'd consider it in Indiana if I had a reason, but I have no friends desu
>>736119554technically nobut it does lend credence to the idea that the majority of male kris enforcers are just self inserting latinx kiddies
>>736119631No shit, Kris clearly presents as masculine. That's why the whole gender ambiguity shit doesn't make sense unless it's meant to be a twist.
>>736119610Only applies to Motifs from Homestuck that Toby didn't createPenumbral Phantasm's already appeared in HOLY without the Doctor's motif.
>>736118907>even women want to rape the doeIt's amazing how that deer somehow managed to turn so many people into deranged freaks for her and her only.
>>736119887People always say this but I cannot hear it. I'm convinced it's another audio hallucination, like Gaster's theme. You hear it where you want to hear it.
>>736119781those aren't official so who careshe already said he's fine with fan translations to begin with, because he knows that in the "canon understanding" of his work no one would be dumb enough to think an interpretation based on a fan translation would be more "canon" than an interpretation based on official text.but if suddenly an official translation slipped through doing shit like NoA does and completely changing stories and characters for whatever reason, then that would be a problem.>but its just one language!what do you think will happen if he gives in and does a spanish translation? soon every other esl under the sun will beg and harass to have their random ass language get an official translation too, and if he declines, then well he must be racist!
>>736119610Wasn't this article fake? As in the writer used AI and pretended to interview Toby to get clicks, and focused on the Penumbra Phantasm craze at that time.
>>736119823That person didn't make Penumbra you fucking drooler, they made Doctor. The alpha versions of Penumbra Phantasm available reference Doctor, but a significant amount of Penumbra Phantasm is an original composition. Doctor itself was not composed explicitly for Homestuck either, by the way, it was conceived of as a Cave Story fansong.I'm not even a PPtruther or whatever, I really don't care, but you shouldn't act so high and mighty about something you literally have the facts wrong about.
>>736118409Given enough time I think Chara would end up as part of the family like Kris but that's just me. I can definitely see how people could think they could have been something more, especially after the 10th anniversary stream. What with changes to Asriel's speech and Gerson hinting at human monster relations
>>736119750>DURRRR SUSIE IS THE DRAGON WHICH MEANS SHE CAN'T BE ANYTHING ELSEGerson also encouraged Susie to pick up the white pen of hope and write her own story, create her own destiny, rather than being stuck within the boundaries of the prophecy.Susie is also the character who regularly, constantly affirms the message of "fuck fate, do your own thing" just by existing.Susie is literally the only reason you can do the Weird Route, which is an active defiance of the game's intended structure, i.e. fate itself.She can be The Dragon AND The Girl rather than ONLY being able to exist in one role. The Dragon wasn't even meant to last as a character past Chapter 1 according to the prophecy and Lord of the Hammer, but here she is in Chapter 4, battling the great smith for the terrible weapon.
>>736119498Dess probably
Bro, an entire theory was created purely based on the *very precise* wording Toby chose for the prophecy. That shit would not work if he used a 3rd party translator.
Toby is objectively correct here btw, he didn't even say "no" he said he's looking into ways to do it it just might take a while considering he's working on finishing the rest of the fucking game first only to have a bunch of retards throw a petulant tantrum at him over wanting it right now, if I were him I'd fucking cancel the game over this because where do these people even get off
>>736120149>if I were him I'd fucking cancel the game over this because where do these people even get offthat would be the most japanese thing he could ever do lol
>>736119750Kris is bouncing on my dick
Any resident LatAM posters: can you explain why your peoples are Like This?
>>736119738>>736119823Sure. Who created it and supposedly died?
>>736120101Yes, which means that Susie is not the original girl, but is a role she stole from her. Thanks for agreeing.
>>736120212inferiority complex over being treated like a pet minority by our former colonizers
>>736119261anon, I agree this shit is retarded but toby and the other guys were talking about kris during that part of the stream everyone quoteshttps://youtu.be/rksOYId-cNA?t=12539
>>736119963https://youtu.be/63ehbOZTByQ?si=YC7zORkWKON-rw9sIt's motif C
I think Toby made W.D. Gaster a Doctor because he wanted to quote Doctor in Gaster's theme.
>>736118907Player x human girls is best ship.
>>736118684
>>736120241Yep. Because Kris, Carol and The Roaring Knight didn't want Noelle getting involved since The Girl is a key figure in The Last Tragedy, and the whole point of fulfilling the prophecy is trying to save Dess (i.e. Kris's promise).Susie got roped in because she proved extremely convenient, and the conflict is Kris realizing Susie is actually wife-tier and not wanting her to die for the sake of someone who might not even be all that worth it anymore now that he has someone right here right now.
>>736119887>>736120306My jaw literally dropped when I heard THE HOLY, like it's really clear to me, but I understand why people don't think so because it's pretty brief.It would be cool if Toby releases a finished PP, and I'm sure if he didn't then whatever songs he uses instead will also be amazing. Definitely not something to get worked up about.I wish everyone online could take a chill pill.
>>736118684hes friends with omocat, any regular wokester would have dropped her on the spot come cancelling time
>>736120191Incidentally, saying no without explicitly saying no is also a very Japanese thing>>736120236George Buzinkai
>>736120421Your proof is that he likes Tohou? That much should be obvious.
>>736119025He did this with jp UT. He just hates spics.
>>736119612Pokefag
>>736120434>tfw THE HOLY is my favorite motif but forced to share it with PPfags
>>736119989>those aren't official so who caresTo all intents and purposes all that matters is how people end up experiencing the game. Whether it's official or not is ultimately trivial.
>>736120212it's very common here for people to start shit as a joke and then for that very same shit to evolve into pure hell once enough retards take it seriously
>>736110587Unlike monsters in Undertale third worlders cannot be reasoned with because they lack a human mind Maybe Chara was actually right after all and Toby is learning that firsthand in some fit of ultimate cosmic irony
>>736120549anyways, platfformer games languages are optional and doesn't affect the gameplay.the RPG is a problem for non-english speakers.
>>736120306It's been a while but I'm pretty sure motif C is just a Homestuck motif. The only part of Penumbra Phantasm that felt original was that initial piano bit after the Doctor's motif at the start. I'll stand corrected at the mildest pushback though, I haven't read Homestuck since it finished.
>>736119887THE HOLY was first used in Deltarune before Buzinkai died though.
>>736120575not to toby clearly.I mean by your logic he should have a problem with mods because they change how people experience the game. but they are obviously unofficial so who cares?
>>736120360>Heart is kidnapped, imprisoned, and held against their will>"Actually it's Kris who is the victim and the heart is the evil manipulator"
>>736120549I forgot how insanely important proper translation is for Pizza Tower being so dialogue heavy and all, these are in fact the exact same issue
>>736111750Yeah. It takes place in what is very likely Japan and only 3 humans have been seen in the entire canon.
Leftists eat their own over the most retarded miniscule bullshit to satisfy their eternal psychotic harassment bloodlust: Chapter 5534543863450
>>736120212We love furry chicks and feel bad that our SFL hermanos are missing on deltarun pum pum doe tail.Also the "artistic vision" excuse is complete bullshit no matter how much mental gymnastics you hamfist into it.
>>736119261>>modern fandom feels old shame for OG UT fandom, especially the Frans shippersThis is the lamest part, this fanbase acts like teen kids afraid of looking childish. I fucking love big booba Frisk art and the creativity from that era versus nowadays where we only have schizo theories and this non-binaryslop.
>>736120926>Also the "artistic vision" excuse is complete bullshit no matter how much mental gymnastics you hamfist into it.This whole thing started because Toby's statement was mistranslated into portuguese
>>736119750>>736120192Based. Blue girls are hot.
>>736120856>he wants players to miss out on the real storyKeep playing your tranny game
>>736120149>if I were him I'd fucking cancel the game over this because where do these people even get offCancelling what you clearly consider your magnum opus mwould be a really gay move, what he should ACTUALLY do is exclusively release the next chapters in japanese
>>736119610The actual quote>>736120717It's also not a Buzinkai created motif.
a way they could solve the gender issue is make two variants of the script for both pronoun sets, then choose which one is used based on a hash of the file name (or an RNG call if a "canon" name is used like chara/firsk/kris)
>>736120926Where's the Shadowman edit?
>>736121124But Kris's pronouns are they/them.
>>736121042The real story is that there isn't one. McPig's taking the piss out of everyone who tries to take Pizza Tower seriously because it's a dumbass game about a broke ass pizza chef trying to stop an evil pizza from blowing up his restaurant.At most there's foreshadowing that said evil pizza isn't who he seems to be, but you get "fuck you'd" with the reveal that the evil pizza just a robot piloted by ANOTHER evil pizza because that's how unserious it's meant to be.
>>736120081Maybe. We can't fully know. Personally I think they would be lovers based on how much Asriel simps for her at least, but I can also see the family interpretation. Toby left it vague so anyone can make their own stories about it I guess.
>>736121203So to understand delta rune you should just watch an omori lets play?
:p .
>>736120529He said he likes dodging bullets from loli kitsunes.
I fucking hate all of you.
>>736120649>Maybe Chara was actually right after all and Toby is learning that firsthand in some fit of ultimate cosmic ironyThis is what made him into a Charafag in love with his mommy.
>>736121294Certain people would've lynched him already if he actually had said that
>>736121195Sure, but we don't know what Kris is actually meant to be because neither Toby nor the game has officially stated anything.Just going "they/them" ad nauseum without stating something outright is misleading people, and gives credence to schizo retard theories like "Kris is trying to be The Cage but is actually meant to be The Girl" simply because Toby is so autistic about divulging information about his characters that he'd rather let misinformation and slanderous caricatures run rampant for TEN FUCKING YEARS than be transparent about his intentions for how the character is meant to be known.
>>736120649>third worlders cant be reasoned withT. Guy who celebrated when a man got executed in broad daylight
>>736121420There is literally no chance in hell that Toby "BLM" Fox reveals Kris actually prefers to go by he or she.
>>736120718Your typical mod wouldn't be something that ends up being someone's first and only experience of a game. But that is the case with a translation.
>>736121195Not true, those pronouns don't exist. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1jD_FpkTPM
>There are people in this thread genuinely mad that Toby isn't going to waste his time on another translation that will push chapter 5's release all the way to late 2027What the fuck is wrong with you faggots?
>>736121007Post the mistranslation. I wanna see what the huehues wrote.
>>736121178The usual places, don't pretend you don't know.>>736121313GO GO GADGET GENDERBENDINATOR
>>736121473And there's equally just as much no chance in hell that Toby bites the bullet and just says "Kris is nonbinary and that's why everyone refers to them with they/them pronouns".You see the problem here? No one gets to be happy, absolutely no one.
>>736121545>And there's equally just as much no chance in hell that Toby bites the bullet and just says "Kris is nonbinaryWhy? Isn't he a proud leftist?
>>736121473but fwug "eat shit, faggots" radiation would
>>736120529>>736121408Look closely
>>736120835Yeah that's gay af. I just like the art
>>736121478No one here is mad. We're just taking the chance to dunk on Toby.
>>736121574The leftwing UTDR community would allow an "EAT SHIT FAGGOTS" in Deltarune because "he earned it".
>>736121195sure, and most people in the know would still know this. since it's not really possible to do without making the script read weirdly in romance languages though, making the character "genderfluid" is a nice way to simultaneously keep most of the value of not letting the fanbase's perception at large one way or another, look innocent to conservative soccer moms who'd flip out if they know their kids were playing woke shit, read naturally, and actually still be woke.
>>736121478>there are people on this thread genuinely sucking tobys cock so hardLmao
>>736121473Hilarious cope.
>>736121595loli kitsune is an accurate way to describe the character. it's not like he mentions jacking off to her.
>>736121625based
YIIK WONHUSSIE WONEVEN ALEX YARD SOMEHOW WON
>>736121641Because Toby is an honorary jew that can get away with bs every once in a whileThe perks of being worshipped by people with low standards
>>736121476Stop posting your channel
It would be extremely funny if having a horde of screeching favela monkeys try to deplatform him for the most retarded shit imaginable ends up souring him and Deltarune becomes less happy go lucky power of friendship "we can all get along" down the line but people like Toby have spines made of jello so he will do a full on dogeza, apologize profusely and waste his and every normal fan's time by delaying the game even further so he can waste money on a taconigger translation
>>736121719
>>736121595>Ran>loli
the amount of chud deltarune accounts just raised all of a sudden
>>736121682Most fans interpret Ran as a busty MILF and most people these days think if you call any character a "loli" you're a pedophile
>>736121573I don't know, I'm not Toby. But what I do know is that in the eight years we've known about Kris, he has not once EVER made the statement "Kris is nonbinary and uses they/them pronouns", whether from his own accounts, or in Deltarune itself, despite how easy it'd be, and how much misery it'd save everyone over countless hours of gender discourse.But again, this is Toby, the same guy who let Chara be mischaracterized as Literally The Antichrist for 10 years, and only after 10 years did he offer his intention behind the "Maybe Chara wasn't the greatest person line" by pointing out that was just Asriel idolizing an idealized version of Chara in his head, but he still cherishes Chara deeply which is why he's choosing to spend his final moments as Asriel to tend to her grave.
>>736121767Would truly make up for the stupid amount of time he just spent milking the fanbaseLmao
>>736121420To be fair does Toby even bring up the fag shit in his games. Like has he even directly called Undyne a lesbian for brownie points?
>>736121682Toby would bone this
>>736121767>>736121837>toby pulls a phil fish>deltarune ia cancelled good night
>>736113307Refugees or identitarians?
>>736121787>Most fans interpret Ran as a busty MILFNo one actually thought this in 2007
>>736121878You would not.
>everyone shitting on Toby for not translating his game>yet pic related hasn't received a freaking ass translation to English for YEARS much less localized and nobody caresHuuuuh?
Toby is based. Nuke Brazil.
>>736122001>Nintendo literally knows the team behind the translation and acts dumb>allowing people to play an uncensored version, for free.Gee I wonder
>>736122001People STILL want a translation for that game but can't get it because of jewery regarding music btw
This topic is inviting literal subhuman golems who are unironically posting dogshit Facebook memesKeep that in mind before you bring it up in another thread>>736109575>>736115228>>736115546>>736115914>>736120549>>736120971
>>736122037It's not them playing dumb. Nintendo CAN'T issue a C&D since they'd need Itoi's permission to do so and Itoi has told them they can't.
>>736122001>>736122037>>736122071>no one mentoons the true reasonThe main characters and villains literally have to kill trannies
>>736117963>Literally the one faggot who directly CALLS kris a girl is hated for it (also because she regularly bitches about troons lmao)i remember that femcel
Posting the truth unironically doesn't make the truth not true.Never forget this
>>736122093these latinx kiddies need to get rangebanned asap, just like the jeets
>>736122001If you try this shit with Nintendo all you're met with is cold uncaring silence
What if monsters menstruated but instead of blood it was dust?
>>736122001MOTHER 3 won't ever get a translation because of legal bullshit surrounding the music, and Nintendo respects Itoi too much to do a remake that removes the offending music without his blessing and direct involvement.Even beyond that, it'd be censored to high hell because there's no fucking chance they'd be able to get away with shit like the Magypsies (literal drag queen faggots) or Fassad (literal mudslime) in the west.
>>736122173reminder theres an undertale deltarune thread on 8ch(an)[DOT]moe
>>736122093>>736122173>LEAVE MULTIMILLIONAIRE INDIE DEV BLM LOVING TRANNY WORSHIPPING FURRO PANDERING HOME STUCKING ROOTIN TOOTIN alone
>>736122214That'd be fucking gross
>>736122149>gave Kris and Susie hairy legs for no reason
>>736122246>toby is a racist jewish white supremacist zionist because he wont translate ut/dr into spicese o algo
>>736121535I miss Nuvex.
>>736121931Wrong. Check the /jp/ archive.
>>736122329Literally saying the opposite but didnt expect less from a deltatroon
>>736122287many western artists always have to uglify their art as to not get lynched by their own
>>736122242>its downnevermind
>>736122287she hates troons i never said she wasn't autistic
This drama has just confirmed every assumption I had about latinos, especially brazillians. There should be a separate internet for thirdies. It's the only way.
>>736121931Nah, all the 2hus were lolis unless they were depicted with big tits in IaMP, the one Touhou game of the time that wasn't ZUNart.
>>736122329NTA he's not a Zionist but he is a massive faggot for making the release dates of deltarune be connected to Japan and the translations for it. We used to shit on indie devs for less, but just because he made Undertale we're giving him a pass.
>>736122287Look me in the eye and tell me either of those two would ever shave their legs.
>>736121826>"Maybe Chara wasn't the greatest person line" by pointing out that was just Asriel idolizing an idealized version of Chara in his head, but he still cherishes Chara deeply which is why he's choosing to spend his final moments as Asriel to tend to her grave.This was pretty obvious since Monster Kid does the exact same thing with Undyne during the ending but most of this fanbase is retarded.
>>736122287Zoomers are a lost generation, they were born wrong
>>736122420even the mirror?
>>736122476Susie is a lizard and Kris's skin below the scalp is naturally smooth and soft and beautiful>>736122535Feminists have been promoting "women don't have to shave" long before the zoomers came along
>>736121878Why not just post the actual fox loli from that fangame?
calling a tobyfox racist for being a lazy ass and a weeb is stupid, BUT all the spanish speakers posting "I'm a latinx and I apologize on behalf of my community" are massive faggots
>>736122490Yeah, but Undyne got screentime to be a quirky chungus meme lesbian to prove her redemption from "FUCKING NINGEN GIVE ME YOUR SOUL".Chara has no screentime outside of Genocide and scenes that are the consequence of Genocide, the route where you explicitly prove her humanity-hating views correct and subsequently deprive the world of all things she considers valuable.
>>736122605Kanako only has one tail.
>>736109498>1 post by this tripcodeit's over
>>736122093>Keep that in mind before you bring it up in another threadPersonally I would rather just discuss Undertale and Deltarune.
>>736122673CYOOT
>>736122093Redditon poster
>>736109498The one with this name shouldn't step into any Latin country in his lifetime.
>>736118916>removed the allosaurus sceneqrd? you mean when a writer on the team inserted his NTR fetish into the game?
>>736121719the fuck did yiik win?
>>736122765Actually releasing (twice)And eventually being good
>>736121676>>736117341>>735733806
>>736122765It has a physical release now and luckily didn't get into more drama with the I.V. update plus it's a lot more fun now imo.
>>736121753Why?
every time i see this doe an unsatiable desire to rape her emerges deep within me and it's starting to get a little bit worryingno other girl provokes such a response from me
>>736122287Women can have hairy legs chud.
>>736107319
>>736122796Did people ever find out what was the deal with the third ending shit?
>>736122631Ceroba doesn't even have one lol.
>>736122987She does in her boss fight
>>736122931Well there's technically 4 endings you can get now but one is new game plus related and the 3rd ending is connected to the Japanese translation apparently
>>736122931Nope, the niche of YIIK diehards are STILL trying to figure out if it's legitimately achievable to this very day.
>>736122853Your videos suck and you're clearly doing it for a monetary objective.
>>736122626Technically making NarraChara definitively canon would solve that but I get what you mean. We barely see Chars in ways nobody can argue it isn't her.>>736122727He cute.
>>736123048>He doesn't knowThe devs said that was her hair.
>>736123183The devs are retarded.
For me, it's Chujin Ketsukane liking Ben 10
>>736122473Japan is superior to your favela hell
>>736122149>femcel>hates troonsis this delicious chudette still up for grabs?
>>736122473Nippon always wins sorry not sorry.
>>736123364*oniontown inferno
>>736122854faha Kris please
>>736123227Yes but it means that ceroba is retarded
>>736123551Correct
>>736123364I'm American
>>736107757lesbians cannot legally do anything that could be considered rape. Rape requires sex, which requires penetration.
>>736123614we know, burger.
>>736122854natural prey triggers predator instinct
>>736123614la creatura...
>>736123227Just like Ceroba!
Nobody is entitled to a translation. He's also not entitled to anyone's money/support. You asked for it, he said no, take your business elsewhere.
>>736123660Muff divers still enjoy using dildos and the sort to simulate penetration, seeing as how a core component of female pleasure is penetration.
>>736123771Imagine burying your nose in her asshole and huffing for hours.
>>736122473i cant really blame him when my fellow westoids act so fucking retarded
>>736122854She's a doe and literal prey.
>>736123079No, I'm doing it for fun. There's a little Jevil in all of us.
>>736123867It's still an objectively terrible decision.
>>736123905tailsmell
No tenéis lengua para traducir un juego de Tobias Fuchs
>>736124003Maybe if you're a golem
>>736123867>Vote with your wallets against Toby Fox Surely you jest right? The guy that's people have been dick riding for a few years will still have an insane amount of people playing even if the entirety of south America and mexico chose to not buy.
>>736122287asgore asked sans for THE EGGS
>>736124004
