This really shows the state of American culture when they think Undertale is some high culture overly complex that can't be translated.
>america*tumblr
>>736110571>crying about le americans while begging for a translation of one of their gamesWhy are sudacas like this?
Reminder Brazilgods don't give a shit about this, it's all spanishits
>>736110571Undertale wishes so desperately to be a mother game.
>>736110571>taking this directly from twitter>from a fucking macaco
>>736110571I definitely assume an American is stupid until they prove otherwise. Still, if you assume something is horrible, you shouldn't want it to get translated.
Toby relying on unpaid fan translators is lame
>>736110571Such a non-issue, forgetting that Toby had always had retarded takes; like when he was pissed about people spoiling the secrets online
>>736113030>throwback to when toby got pissed people datamined UT at launch when he told them not to so he made an entire stream about showing people new content he'd never put into the gamefucking petty dog bitch
>>736110571>Types meme out in perfect EnglishWhy do you care so much? You can read it just fine. Is it a pride thing?
>>736110571I wonder how much this Anti Toby campaign cost. What do Indian bot farms usually charge for this kind of thing.
>>736110571Why would you want to translate anything from English into anything else ever? The endeavor of translation is meant to filter works from other languages into English and for no other reason.
>>736110571Why do you monkeys keep whining about it though? Can't you(you specifically) read english?Why does it matter that it's translated to your fucking language of all things. I don't even play these games and it's all I fucking hear about them nowadays.
>>736113030i like that after 10 years he has changed nothing at all and continues to self sabotage himself.
>>736110571Why do all of these monkeys think that toby (who already translated the game) thinks translation is impossible
If you're angry at Toby for not giving a shit that his game gets widespread representation, then you shouldn't be complaining when AAA studios insert "diverse characters" in their games for similar reasons:)
>>736111058>Rainbow flaglollmao
>>736111058>culo
>>736110571I just don't want to. Deal with it, beaner.
>>736110571Toby is a weeb who always dreamed of being one of those cool japanese game devs. That's really all it is.I wouldn't say he's racist to any particular nationality, so much as he's obsessed with one and doesn't put much thought to any other. It's just the spanish speakers in particular acting like they're being singled out, as if a french translation exists or something.
>>736110571Maybe some dumbass beaner should pick up a Spanish-to-English diccionario and get cracking instead of bitching. You know, like how Mother 3 had a translation for years before the official one because some Americans gave a shit. Maybe all the spics with an IQ in the triple digits got beheaded by the cartels lmao
>>736110571Why is it only Spanish speakers complaining?
high culture that could NEVER be translated to other languages right here
>>736119002It could.Not gonna happen.Especially now.This isn't how you ask for favors.
>>736119002It already was translated. Nobody is saying the game is impossible to translate
>>736118924It's one of the most spoken languages in the world. But unlike Chinese or Hindi speakers who tend to be isolated into their own communities, spanish and english speakers have a lot of crossover and tend to interact with each other a lot.
ban spic threads
>>736110571Japanese and English are much closer to each other in terms of gender pronouns. They don't assign gender to every single object like spic languages that lead to spic's annoying machismo culture.In Japanese you only have gender pronouns for yourself and other people. In English it's for other people. And both have gender neutral pronouns unlike spics.>>736119336>spanish and english speakers have a lot of crossover and tend to interact with each other a lot.Brazilians shitting up western forums isn't "lots of crossover", it's mosquitos shitting up the place and being annoying parasites. You'd think they would be learning russian or something since they're a part of BRICs but no, they just have to shit up everywhere I browse with their shitty machismo culture. There's a reason the average spic IQ in America is 89, only blacks are worse (85 IQ) and spics in their home countries are even more retarded.
>>736118794>Spics with IQs in the triple digitsThis was never a thing, Anon. There aren't any now, there weren't any then.
>>736113030You do know Toby knew they'd be spoiled right? The game being spoiled and datamined is literally part of the narrative.
>>736120348brazilians don't speak spanish.lmao at american education
>>736111058>literal faggot of Lesser Tacostan jealous that America and Japan won't share their delicioius goat twinks with himSOUR GRAPES
I don't give a fuck about trannytale or deltatroon but I'm really fucking tired of beaners spamming threads about it
>>736110571What's the fallacy where an opionion held by a small number of people is applied to the entirety of a group those few people belong to?
>>736120908>deletedtoby pls
>>736120708Venezuelans, brazilians, who cares about the difference.
Why the hell are people upset that Toby wants to ensure that a Deltarune translation would be loyal to his writing. And doesn't want to just pay some random company that could butcher the translation and he wouldn't know since its in a language he doesn't understand. Surely these people have gotten disappointed by a badly translated game that sounds stilted and unnatural cause the company outsourced the translation. Hell a good chunk of Japanese games get shit lost or altered in translations because of deadlines, or one of the translators felt like being a writer that day. And the devs in Japan don't know enough English to know if the translation team was doing a good job. Do they really want Toby to shit out a Spanish translation that bad even though there complaining about it in English so they already know enough of the fucking language to play the game and complain about it online so English speakers can hear about it. God I fucking hate twitter.
>>736110571>Nintendo refuses to translate Mother 3 into English>Anglos took matters into their own hands and translated it themselves>Toby Fox refuses to translate Undertale and Deltarune into Spanish>Instead of translating the games themselves, Spics just whine and beg for an official translationWhy is it like this?
>>736110571Who the hell says that about Undertale?
>>736110571im 100% convinced such decision was made because pic rel, toby is avoiding thr internet equivalent of chernobyl reactor 4 meltdownthere is no such thing as a genderless-neutral word in a romance language, doing such translations would force toby to finally decide kris' sex unless he would use some some neolanguage yank word like 'elle' who nobody serious usesthe moment kris becomes a dude in an official media his fanbase would collapse
>>736121592afaik it's mostly their zoomers cause millennials had to learn English to play any vidya. So it's a zoomer issue on top of that.
>>736110571And yet, you clamor for it to be translated to your dogshit language, Paco.
>>736121648Toby Fox needs to just call him a he already despite him being canonically female as confirmed by Femkris man. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1jD_FpkTPM
>>736121648>>736121952imagine if halo fags were this obsessed over chief's gender. What the fuck is going on with zoomers
>>736122085That's because gender is an actual plot point in Deltarune. The MC having a confirmed sex has story implications.
>>736122085You mean like how 343 made Halo about identity politics and introduces left wing organizations as in-game events?
>>736121648Which is funny because apart from an extremely small number of GirlKris schizos, EVERYONE in the world sees this character subconsciously as a guy. Like EVERYONE, including the most woke lunatics, know deep inside that this character has a dick and balls. If someone draws him dating Ralsei, it's considered yaoi (that is, gay, because THEY'RE BOTH MALE), and if someone draws him dating Noelle the SJWs will start screeching about "lesbian erasure" for making the deer girl straight... because, guess what, despite everything they say THEY SEE HIM AS A MAN.I've never in my entire life seen a bigger more retarded game of pretend than this whole "non-binary" nonsense.
He didn't say it couldn't be translated throughHe just doesn't want to put his stamp of approval on a translation he doesn't have any involvement with
no offense but why can't yall bum ass mexican niggas learn english? shit, you even have fan translations at your disposal https://deltaesp.site/!this "drama" is just a nothingburger of pettiness and entitlement.
>>736119053>1 post by this tripcodeit's over
>>736110571>White people and Toby Fox are being roasted by 15-year-old Latinxs on xitter probably one of the funniest things this year.
>I can't translate my ironic oelvn furry dating sim because I don't know Spa-- ACK!!!!!!!
>>736122162How.
>>736110571>>736119053>>736121541>>736122526>>736123337ANOTHER 1 MILLION TO ISRAEL!THANKS FOR YOUR PATRONAGE GOYIM!*rubs hands*
>>736122789>Telling a mexicant to learn EnglishThat's like asking a monkey to invent a rocketship anon. They're fundamentally unable to learn anything more that "no" and "noooo"
>>736123479All of the people complaining are doing so in perfect English.
>>736123337
>>736123534They're probably just virtue signalling 3rd generation Americanised immigrants
>>736123458based
>>736123458The BR cries out in pain as it strikes you
Undertale is a game that has shaken this world. We’re entering the 6th gaming Industrial Revolution thanks to their hard work and sacrifice. Even my mom has sent her warm regards to the team of undertale workers she said “thanks to you, my life has changed for the better. Thank you from the bottom of my girl feet to the bounce of my breasts undertale worker.”. Early this morning I recieved a call from Google analytics Fortune 500 sister company (working closely with FAANG students who studied STEM and game dev) and I was told that undertale had exceeded all expectations and recieved a rating of 10 in every category, which has never happened before. I had a good breakfast with bacon and coffee sandwiches, smiling off at the horizon of my beach house in San Francisco. I knew the world was improving thanks to undertale and its new age business strategies using very wise game development skills that have shaken this world in ways we cannot comprehend mortals.
>>736120594Regardless, this was faggy as fuckhttps://tcrf.net/index.php?title=File%3AUndetale_(PC)_-_abc_123_a.ogg
>>736120594Obviously, the root of the issue is that within the files he wrote >"Part of this game's charm is the mystery of how many options or secrets there are. If you are reading this, please don't post this mesage or this information anywhere. Or doing secrets will become pointless."Which I feel that believing it could work is naïve, It would have been fine if he dropped it entirely, because its his game. But the stream he made is pitiful at best and retarded at worst
>Kris is male!>nooo Kris is female!>Kris is neither you heckin' chuds!Boring ass shit, the real question is if Susie is a dinosaur or a dragon.
>>736124296She's a gecko, like Alphys.
>"NOOOOO!!!! TOBY NEEDS TO TRANSLATE THIS IN MY LANGUAGE!!!!">he said in English
>>736122489>EVERYONE in the world sees this character subconsciously as a guy. Like EVERYONE, including the most woke lunaticsTrue...
>>736124296Alligator
>>736123379if kris is a girl then suddenly she would become a candidate for the second hero instead of the presumed first like it or not, gender actually matters this time, since there is a role that demands it
>>736124296leans more on the dragon side of things, but closer to the drake classification if we're being pedantic
Just learn english
>>736124507that's Bratty
>>736122489Completely agree, I know this character has dick and balls deep inside.
Fill in the blank_____ Won!
if i was toby i would personally find the most retarded egotistical localizer i could and let him have free reign to butcher whatever he wants for the spanish translation
>>736124705Japan
>>736124705Susie
>>736120594My bad, I meant the audio that >>736124196 posted, I still stand that that believing it could work is naïve, It would have been fine if he dropped the secrets entirely because its his game. But the stream he made is pitiful at best and retarded at worst
>>736110571>American culture
>>736124705kedouin
>>736124705>Fill in the blank>_____ Won!
>>736124887Oh you think you're some kind of funny man don't you?
>>736124804Damn that's a nice picWhat game is this btw, i vaguely recall seeing that girl on the right somewhere before
>>736123379The second hero of prophecy is described as a girl. In fact, it's literally the *only* description she has. Whether or not a given character is a girl is plot critical.
>>736124887NOOOOOOOOOOO
>>736124296Her axe description states what she is, along with the smouldering cake. Play the game, maybe?
>>736124994>the girl, with hope crossed on her heartCan't see this being anyone other than Susie, "hope" is her entire thing from what we've got in ch4
>>736125043Yeah but she does look like Barney, you know, a fucking dinosaur?
>>736124804Dead Patient when? Darkness Distortion when?
Noelle will understand the true meaning of love by having YOU inside her non sexually of course
>>736125137I read that as non consenually.
>being a fan of tobyfox and his crap at all
>>736124705Kriselle. The rape has been sublime, thank you Tobias.The endless animations of Noelle, pictures of her ass and even other things have also been nothing short of peak. God I need another Snowgrave like event, the mutual attraction power dynamic shit is insanely good.
>>736110571Untranslatable EOP kamige, learn the language SOP slave
>>736125204Well I'm a coprophilliac and I like crap. What now. bitch?
>>736124705Yiik won
>>736125271Well you should try adding a little bit of peanut butter next time you jerk off then.
How do we stop this menace?
>>736125396This image is Deltarune in a nutshell
IDGAF about culture war nonsense, UT and DR are good games that made me feel better about being alive
I have immense contempt for Toby Fox as a creative and a writer
>>736125471Krusie made me believe in god
This is the only time in my life i can confidently - and with complete honesty - say that I HATE everyone involved and BOTH SIDES ARE RETARDED. I don't feel not one piece of pity for - nor agree with -anyone making any argument. I feel good.
>>736125548That's fucking pathetic actually
Again, how are Lisa and Omori's foreign translations?
>>736122085Speaking of, I really liked Halo's Spanish dub.>Abuelita de batman!
>guy who skinwalks one of the most racist cultures in the world has to kowtow to retarded third worlders demanding gibs.>he apologizes>they draw him as an ice agentthis is what he gets for walking away from his Christian faith.
Kris is a they because they're not human.They have "Human parts."
>Miss TLD SusieThis is the only part of this I don't get.
>>736123734Anónimo yo....>>736124705LOVE won! =)
>>736110571>wordswordswordsLatinx can't meme
>>736110571>another thread about this topicThis going to last for awhile.
>>736126290Fuck, forgot to reply to >>736125396
>>736126290Total Latino Death
>>736124524>thinking toby will risk to lose his powers by making kris a girlis going to be, literally anyone else, there are chicks to choose.>>736124705el congo, broly
>>736126290Total Lesbian Death?
>>736126357It's either this or keep WAITing.The first chapter of Deltarune released in october of 2018, just to remind you.
>this writing is shit>but I'm shitting myself over not getting an official translation of it
>>736121648Yeah he can't translate it into spic languages otherwise the humans won't be special genderless blobs for imagination purposes anymore.
>Ok dude I get they took our jobs and all, but all I asked was whether you wanna jump in this big Dark World hole or not.
>>736124296She is canonically a dragon.
>>736126763Kris doesn't look like he would be very into politics.
>>736110571I hate mother. It is the animal crossing of jrpgs.
>>736126817>they/them fag>not into politics
>>736124705Nippon. As usual.
>>736126853categorically wrong, everyone's played animal crossing, mother fans haven't played the games
>>736124804Hot.
>>736125396Pure schizophrenia.
>>736126616Extremely grim but I know how long the WAIT is already. This is not a fun way to go through it.
>>736126861Enbies would be pro immigration, I would guess.It's a strange world, I'm not America's biggest fan and I live at less than a day's time in a bus to get across the border and yet I DON'T support illegal immigration.mmm, I wonder if I could exploit Amerindian social programs to get in, I have this extreme aversion to look or act like a beggar, tho.Noelle's pretty cute.>>736127182There is no "fun way" to go through it, you just do it.
>>736126435>Miss Total Latino DeathSusiebros we can't stop winning
>>736110571heh
>>736125204I liked Undertale but Deltarune looks TOO troony for me
>>736124296she is my cock sleeve
>>736124296Dragons are dinosaurs and she is both
I voted thumbs down on steam. I’ve never been this disappointed in their development team. What started as a humble Pokemon 3DS clone quickly unravelled into a tale of two thrones. Was not expecting to be used by their development team for illuminating tier scientific experiments on my sphincter. That felt good to get my sphincter pounded by undertale, thumbs down tho because I’m straight.
>>736124296Dragons are the fictional work of devil worshipers and dinosaurs are Satan's great lie spewed by his followers. She is pure, therefore she is neither.
>>736127632>and dinosaurs are Satan's great lieDon't try to tell God how to build his worlds, faggot
>>736127259>There is no "fun way" to go through it, you just do itI like waifuposting or discussing theories over this, but I am powerless to this as I am to the WAIT.
>>736125204I still like Ren & Stimpy in spite of John K.'s status as a pedo.
>noelle raped this
>NOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST ASK FOR SOMETHING THAT EVERY OTHER INDIE GAME ALREADY DOESjust hire a translator tony vox
>>736127791Being fair she didn't know it was rapeBut I did
>>736127673>implying the six days of creation (and a day off) was actually billions of years because something something metaphorical copeEnjoy being lied to for the rest of your life. All Satan had to do was just put those bones in the ground and befuddle the most weak-willed and godless of men. And now their demonic influence has spread to all of God's children thanks to idiots like you.
>>736124981corpse party, i don't recommend playing any of the sequelsyou probably know seiko as the 'butter up my pooper' girl
>>736126267there is zero evidence that kris is anything but an ordinary humanthe 'glitter in the creases' imply messy work with graphite, not that kris is a grey copy of some one elsethat's what the vessel is
>>736125114darkness distortion this year trust the process
Rent free.
>>736127925Like most of Genesis, the creation of the world is a metaphorical and etiological myth. There can't be a literal day before the sun existed, you fucking idiot. Also, why would God even care what you think about how the world was made, that Satan would need to trick you? What would that accomplish?
>>736126267But enough about Kris's genitals.
LATAM undertale fans:https://files.catbox.moe/n0dptx.mp4
>>736110571The only takeaway from this whole debacle is I hope now everyone can realize how much of a pathetic Japanese larper Toby is and the lengths he goes to make everyone think he’s some anonymous small jap dev, it’s been bugging me for so long and it’s good it’s now being put into light.
>>736128246I think it's completely understandable that actual people(the japanese), get a translation, compared to subhuman spics
>>736128124What are you, a fucking C*tholic or something? You know your oh so holy church and the false prophet who heads it is responsible for the birth of Islam, Bolshevism, Nazism, and Freemasonry? Why the fuck should I even take you seriously anymore? Oh right, I shouldn't since you're an imbecile deluded by Satan's illusions! Now if you excuse me, I must collect more Susies for my collection.
will he find happiness?
>>736128409>Nazismdidn't they hate catholics because they were too soft or some shit like that?>>736128458probably not unless he forgets about Toriel
>>736128370I don’t care for the nips either, for so long deltatroon trannytale fans have defended Toby countless of times no matter what and turn a blind eye at his shitty larping giving him a pass because he made their fav quirky earthbound indie rpg game
>>736128246Only takeaway from this whole debacle is that third-world twitterfags are an even lower and dumber class of people than i could ever have imagined, and that the world of today is somehow much more insane than i thought in general.
>>736127632>>736127925>>736128409get the fuck off of 4chan noelle
>>736128613At the end of the day any potential spic Undertale translation is still far away, so you can at least enjoy the fact that they'll be crying about it for years to come
>>736128409>What are you, a fucking C*tholic or something?Of course not. >You know your oh so holy church and the false prophet who heads it is responsible for the birth of Islam, Bolshevism, Nazism, and Freemasonry? None of that is true, and Nazism isn't even bad
>>736128872but what about monster kris?
>>736128409>>736128875but>I must collect more Susies for my collectionBased regardless, schizo creationist anon
>>736128559>>736128875>Satanic propagandadisregarded>>736128924Thank you for your open mindedness, may God be with you.
>>736127412calm down ralsei
>>736128409Nazis were more atheist than anything considering they used a subset of Nietzsche's Nihilism
>>736129049So you're calling Jack T. Chick a liar?
>>736129120Yeah
>>736129246Well maybe you should educate yourself. Study up and get back to me.https://www.chick.com/products/tract?stk=1077
>>736124196>gaster got so mad that he decided to add 50 layers of metanarrative to deltarune just to make it impossible to discern meaning from dataminer findsYeah, I'm thinking the doc is based.
>>736128140>bodrio de familia And there's a better gag about this joke.https://youtu.be/cFN46vwg0M0
>>736120903Compositional Fallacy
I don't give a shit about the ideological conflict of morons on Twitter
>>736129430You don't actually believe this shit do you? Surely you're doing a layered bit?
>claims to believe in God>posts lust provoking images Anon, what the fuck.
>Chapter 5 gets delayed to add Spanishplease do this, it'd be so fucking funny
>>736129723I wonder if this would be controversial enough to cause a counter attack on the south american community from the rest of the fanbase
>>736129687>it's a sin to appreciate god's creations why are christians like this
>>736129679>Romans 16:17your mother will die in her sleep tonight if you do not respond to this post
>>736110571I'm gonna assume there are a few brazillians in here that might appreciate this, considering the topic of the threadUndertale on the PS2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Uhun4hzIQcThis isn't just a port, this is a reimplementation of the GMS runner on the PS2, meaning it can run all sorts of games including Deltarune. Hell, you might even be able to run one of those fan translations on there. So maybe you could get Undertale translated on console. Just IMAGINE(tm) seeing a boxed bootleg copy of Brazillian Undertale for the PS2.
>>736129790>spics vs tranny dick suckers >both lose
>>736121592Downfall in computer literacy over applying a fan translation patch when there exists tutorials and guides and entitlement
>>736129898Jokes on you my mother is already departed but even as a Christian. Jack's stuff always was extremely schizophrenic and his reasoning didn't work.
>>736129898kill yourself
>>736129898Get parried
>>736120708American education isn't great, but lmao at you thinking that's worth teaching.
>>736128872I blame spics for drawing kris as a nigger rather than yellow
>>736127632And yet you take no issue with the Dreemurs being based on baphomet.
>>736128872FTFY
>>736130198
>>736110571I think Toby Fox's reasoning is retarded and incredibly weeb-adjacent "muh localizers" culture war nonsense.But you can mod Deltarune if you really want to translate the game to your language. People will even commend you for it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPfaPEe_svA>Toby Fox's Theme
I, for one, support my Latin American brothers, no matter how annoying they get. You've gotten Don Quijote and 100 Years of Solitude translated. Surely you don't think translating Undertale and Deltarune is harder than that?
>>736110571Toby would never say this, he'd just learn Japanese and play Mother 3
>>736124705In your heart, you already know the answer.
>>736130637Kamiya won?
>>736129687I am suddenly aware that I have never seen art of a big girl manhandling a small guy with one hand and jerking him off with the other
>>736125335If I had a nickel for every mother inspired RPG with a dead sister I’d have 3 nickels it’s getting a little excessive
>>736110620America indeed
Why are there so many angry latinx fans chimping out? I thought you guys were against localization and shit.
>>736130782I've genned an AI image of exactly that because it didn't exist
>>736130985toby told them he doesn't want to drag out dev time even longer than it already is and that he doesn't know spic, so the translation runs the risk of being incorrect or misinterpreted unfortunately, the latinx kiddies can't read and got a poorly translated version of toby's message and accidentally proved his point by sperging out like a bunch of spoiled children
>>736129898FUCK YOU
>>736130179pretty sure that was mostly done by burgers
>>736130357>lowkirkenuinelyPlease explain to this old man what the hell is that supposed to mean.
>>736131454most burgers are latinx at this point
>>736110571the fuck point is this image trying to make?
>>736131545"lowkenuinely" was a meme tiktok phrase among teenagers that got popular around the same time political podcaster and overall retard Charlie Kirk got his neck circumcized
>>736130357>incredibly weeb-adjacentDo you know who we're talking about here?>culture war nonsenseToby's position is not "I fucking hate localizers and annoying latin teenagers fuck you," his position is that he's not comfortable endorsing an official translation that he can't personally verify the quality of.>duh just hire a professional translator that's their jobNo fucking shit, but like many weebs Toby has been a fan of JRPGs and other foreign media for a long time and has seen plenty of examples of games getting completely butchered in the translation process. Even people working in good faith with passion for the material can make honest mistakes that cause important details to be changed or lost in translation.Toby is not anti-localizer, there's literally a book called "Legends of Localization" that talks about the process of localizing Undertale into Japanese in detail and how Toby supported the translation team he hired in that process. He works directly with 8-4 on Deltarune too.He just doesn't want to put his name on a half-assed version of the story that he's poured so much of his life into, it's as simple as that.In his statement he acknowledges that maybe his standard is unreasonable when he also wants more people to experience his work, and he does want to try to work something out that he can be satisfied with, but devoting his time and attention to that while Detlarune is still in development is just not possible.
>>736130954Actually it's 4 games
>>736132362What's the fourth?
>>736132619Lisa,Deltarune,YIIK and omori
>>736132664>Yiikno wonder I didn't know what it was
>>736124804>that VNThe most unforgettable horror porn game I've ever played. No other game had a bunch of elementary schoolers gangbang a teenage girl against a wall. And the teenage girl loved it. No other game I've played had a 17 year old bishonen guy drink a 14 year old girl's piss and chase her down the hall to rape her, only to wind up getting anally raped by a 32 year old fat man. I still remember the scene where a 16-17 girl was hiding under a bed as her same age best friend was having sex with that same 32 year old fat guy on top. She heard every moan, bed shake and sound. In the wrong end she was discovered under the bed by her friend and made to join. A most terrifying scene was when an unwilling girl relives another girl's sex memories. The girl in the memory consented but the reliving girl didn't. It didn't matter that she was mentally screaming, her body in the memory did all the motions and actions as in history. It's like mind control rape except the victim was fully aware. Another scene the same girl and a friend were almost raped in a magic sex ritual, saved by the girl's older sister, and the backlash made the older sister want to rape her younger sister and friend.The loli in this pic is freakishly lewd and once disguised herself as a teenage girl, fucked a boy until he nearly came, transformed back saying>You thought you were having sex with a highschooler weren't you? I'm an elementary schooler all along!And leglocks that boy, forcing him to cum inside her unprotected, when he screams in fear upon learning this. This isn't even getting into the tentacles, the gay sex, the lesbian sex, the incest, the sequel's mother/daughter lesbian scene, etc. The first chapter alone contains lots of lesbian sex scenes with an unavoidable girl masturbating in the bathroom. Truly horror is intrinsically connected with sexuality.
>>736131797I don't believe even for a second that translating UTDR to other languages would be particularly burdensome or vulnerable to mistranslation, at least not for important bits. All he would have to do is give a translator he trusts some notes on important lines/concepts to keep intact and delegate the translation to them, similar to what he did with Keiko. Then he could patch it in later, minimizing the impact on development.99% of the script is unimportant nothingburger slop anyway, like references to media he grew up with, so it would probably be a really easy translation job overall. The one stickler being the genderless blob characters which might cause controversy in languages in which enbies do not exist and are not valid (which most of them).Also, Earthbound, one of his favorite games, was translated like shit and that's part of why he fell in love with it, so him being such a perfectionist not only doesn't make sense, it's also hypocritical.Genuinely, his response is so dumb that he's almost definitely not telling us the real reasons why he won't add more translations, and rather than being racist, it's probably just because he's being an indecisive pussy over how he would localize the genderless characters.
>>736131545meme phrase. lowkey + genuinely + charlie kirk who got a hole in his neck (lmao)
>>736132798>99% of the script is unimportant nothingburger slopAnd there it is How come every single person who wants this game to be translated soooo fucking badly also seems to hate the shit out of it? You are a mentally ill insect
>>736133060>Implying someone who enjoys deltarune can't be critical of toby fox's writing style
>Stanley Kubrick (one of the greatest filmmakers of his generation) was completely fine with his work being localised overseas, even having a hand in the (poorly received) Spanish dub>House of Leaves has been translated into numerous languages, including Dutch, French, German, Greek, Italian, Japanese, Polish, Portuguese, Russian, Serbian, Spanish, and Turkish.>Tobías Zorro thinks his work is too heckin' special for localisation, tho
>>736110571You esl morons claim Americans have no culture lmao
>>736133176He said fan translations are fine. He also already localized it before, so he doesn't think that.
>>736132785>You were having sex with a ghost girloh no?
>>736129932Damn that's crazy. Always thought that modern engines were all too heavy to run on old hardware like that. Weaponized autism is a hell of a drug
>>736132798>99% of the script is unimportant nothingburger slop anyway
>>736133060Objectively, it is. The vast majority of the text in the game isn't important to the narrative and doesn't need a perfectionist's eye going over each and every line in order to preserve Toby's artistic vision.And no, just because I recognize that random reference to 90s media #459, or random one-off irrelevant gag #624, doesn't need to be expertly and meticulously translated doesn't mean I "hate the shit" out of these games lmao.
>>736133235That's more what his non latin fan base thinks
>>736133147>>736133365Let me offer some criticism of your writing style:Kill yourself.
>>736130985Blue checkmarks on xitter told them to, please understand
>>736133259What is she looking at?
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>>736133393Toby isn't gonna let you get early access to chapter 5 for defending him.
>>73613336590% of what makes Undertale good is the flavor text. The plot is the unimportant part.
>>736110571>An entire week long melt down of Latin Americans mad that they cannot find someone to do work for them, or even fund their own translation so they get mad about itIt's been ten years. Scrape up a few pesos, kids. You can find it behind your abuelas couch cushions at this point.
Really shows the state of South of the USA culture if all they have to cry over is shit in a language they can barely speak.
>>73613336599% of your post was irrelevant slop. I've fed it to an AI to create a shorter, optimized version. Here's the inal product:>nuh uh
>>736130985The straw that broke the latinx's back was the absence of a Latin American venue in the Deltarune (or Undertale?, dunno I don't care enough to remember every detail) world tour.
>>736133513The best part of this all is that everyone complaining is so competent in their English that they can break into the English speaking Internet and whine about it. They don't give a shit about the translation being official. All they want is performative nods towards their culture. Just put in random Spanish/Brazilian cultural nods and they'd be satisfied.
>>736133265Whats funny is that the developer isn't even some prodigy C programmer. He's a self described amateur who knows more about java, who needed claude to help him code it. Its open source though, so anyone is free (and encouraged) to improve on his amateur slop code.I'm hoping it gets more attention so it can actually be turned into a fully working runtime, that'll let you play Undertale start to finish without any major issues. And Deltarune too.
>>736133474I'm not defending him, I'm condemning you for being a fucking golem.The communication of shared experience that makes a person a human and gives meaning to our lives would be wasted on a soulless wretch like you, so I won't elaborate further. Kill yourself.
>>736125574Latam is sperging out but what is "the other side" in this case, people who think that huemonkeys are retarded? Even if you fucking hate deltarune/undertale, it's retarded to think you can "force" the guy who makes it to properly translate it. That shit didn't work for mother 3, it's not gonna work now, and it won't work in the future. " The game is heavily pirated by them, so it's not like you're gonna make money anyways on a translation, plus it's the authors work. Is this what the Japanese feel like whenever the US begs for a translation? Because I'm starting to understand the vitriolic hatred they have for us, interacting with these people online makes me want to glass the entire fucking continent. Toby isn't even saying "DONT PLAY THE GAME" he's just telling them "hey just play the fan translation because I won't be making shit and I'm too concerned with the two languages that actually matter. I feel like people would riot if he says that chapter 5 is delayed for latin american translation lmao
>>736133393>>736133523You seething this hard means you know I'm right btw.
I don't get it. You all bitch and moan about how pozzed and shit localizers are when it comes to games, but then you bitch and moan when Toby says he doesn't trust anyone but himself to translate a game the way he wants to?
>>736133698*your
>>736133779>your know I'm right??? nigga
>>736133456That's Kris' search history tho
>>736133671You're actually this tilted over a translation? Actually pathetic.
>>736133773
>>736133694I don't think its really comparable though, because Americans are perfectly content to enjoy fan translated manga. Meanwhile these people are complaining that its not officially translated, even though they can read english and already have fan translations.
>>736133869Whhy did you replace the goombas with these random guys
>>736133916Those are the originals.https://x.com/supersylvie_/status/1752088688115253737
>>736133915>because Americans are perfectly content to enjoy fan translated manga.Are they? Are they really?
>>736134039Yeah, since officially translated jujutsu kaisen is abysmal dogshit
>>736134039Official distributors of anime and manga in the US are complete dogshit, why wouldn't anyone prefer a better fan translation you don't have to pay for?
>>736122162people worry about kris' gender yet miss that the SOUL was gendered in the spamton sweepstakes believe in him, and his barrier will protect you
>>736134039I've never heard anyone bitch about not having an official translation when they have a perfectly good fan translation. I don't see why they would either. I could see wanting a physical release to be available, because often times those are region locked and you can't just inject subtitles into a DVD. But bitching about a digital release not having an official translation when it has a fan translation just seems retarded on the face of it.
>>736134256But it's also on console too right?
>>736134226If the soul is gendered that means Kris is male then right?
>>736134330>"what if someone bought the game on console and doesn't understand either language the game is in so they can't play it"I don't know man it sounds like they're kind of retarded and wasted their money
>>736134226Wait what. Where????
>>736134226>>736134485No it wasn't>>736134474No it doesn't
>>736110571Giving you monkeys access to western technology was a mistake
>>736134330Yeah, but no physical release, so what's the point? Just play on PC. Or hell, you can play it on your phone if your PC can't run it.
>>736132798translating and localizing deltarune would not be an easy job. for example, localizing this line would be very difficult.if the analogous latin american media reference were chosen poorly, the irony of toby getting rich by whoring his characters out via merchandise sales while referencing the work of a man who was famously opposed to commercialism would go tragically unappreciated.
>YOU OWE ME A TRANSLATION BECAUSE... BECAUSE YOU JUST DO OKAY!?what's wrong with south americans
all these fucking threads keep hitting reply limit, is /v/ all spics now????
>>736134731That is pretty ironic
>>736134226Hold on. Are you talking about the heart locket?https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=61zGGtTdv5s at 16:38
>>736134731The fact he's getting called a Jew for not taking the easy paycheck of just getting some studio to shit out a cheap and low-effort localization is a level of retard logic that I'm not quite getting.
>>736134731OH THE HYPOCRISY HE REFERENCED A GUY BUT DOESNT ACT EXACTLY THE SAME AS HIM
spanish deltarune fans are mentally ill man i've seen some people genuinely say it's thanks to the spanish fandom that undertale got popular. they think they're entitled to a translation like they are God's chosen people, and then also shit on Toby choosing to do a japanese translation despite the fucking game being inspired by Earthbound.
>>736134764A combination of low IQ, victim complexes, and narcissism. Only twitterfags are like this btw. Us sane brazillians never had issue with using translation patches back in the UT days. This whole drama is a gen alpha thing.
>>736134969 (me)Because that was about Spamton, not the Soul. See https://deltarune.com/sweepstakes/#gallery__your_best_heart_locket-3 for proof
>>736135023i did not say it was hypocrisyjust ironicwhich it is
>>736134997If he does that, he reveals he doesn't actually care about translations being accurate the way he's been harping on and on about it for the japanese translation. It's an image thing.
>they've finally weaponized COME TO BRAZILi don't think you people realize how terrifying this is
>>736135291Yes people tend to give a fuck about their public image and they usually maintain it by not doing the opposite of what they said they would do. Your point?
>>736124705
>>736135772My point is he has no choice but to tell them to fuck off or learn spanish to keep up the appearance he cares about accurate translations. He won't do the former and the latter will take years to become proficient enough to be involved with the translation himself, which means an extra delay.
>>736130637>why did toby translate the games to japanese instead of MY language!?
Latin Roulx Kaard would be funny because he'd speak in shitty latin and then start speaking like a cholo when angry
Is 4chan really just south america now? Who gives a shit about spanish
Most of the posts in this thread were all mine btw.
>>736110571>American cultureJapan loves Undertale
Reminder that the va11 hall-4 devs are fluent in spanish but refuse to make an official spanish or portuguese translation despite that. Seeing the retarded shit I've seen latam post over the past days I can understand why. Toby should've flat out ignored these monkeys instead of even giving a response.
>>736136463Those are chuds who know female bisexuality is hot and based, and male bisexuality isn't real, though.
I won't lie, I don't really care about the spanish translation, I'm just glad toby is finally catching some heat. Chapters 3 and 4 were disappointing and there's no reason this shit should be taking this long.
>>736136682Are you implying that's impossible for a guy to find both men and women attractive, or that a guy finding effeminate men attractive isn't gay?
>>736136682>male bisexuality isn't real10 minutes in a UT/DR thread should tell you this very much isn't the case
Why Spanish of all languages? No Esperanto, cyrillic or Chaos language?
>>736136273I don't trust him, I feel like he's gonna pull some Guilty Spark shit and say "You ARE The Angel" or something like that. I also want to have rough sex with him so all-in-all I'm very confused.
I don't hold Toby in the highest regard but I completely understand why he wants to insulate himself within the Japanese community. His wider fanbase/hatebase is fucking psychotic. I wouldn't want to deal with them either.
>>736137079Something something swamps of our sins.
>Are you implying that's impossible for a guy to find both men and women attractiveThat's certainly what Ortiz and Damas seem to think, reason why they created gay characters, lesbian characters, straight male characters and female bisexual characters, but no male bisexual characters.God bless their hearts!
>>736137230Meant for >>736136926.
>>736129723It would also get the brazilians mad so I hope that happens>>736129898Fuck you
>>736130198>>736130274The Noelle gave me a boner so I doodled herhttps://files.catbox.moe/n9x46f.jpg
Doe
>>736129898Kill yourself.
>>736136928To be fair, that stupid goat is the exception for a fuckload of people.
>>736137558.../k/ might have had a point after all
>>736136727>there's no reason this shit should be taking this long.don't worry. he can get right to it after he spends another year working on the spanish translation ;)
>>736137079>Implying japs aren't crazy too
>>736137487I like your drawing, anon
>>736137612Gay.
>>736110571Every time I see one of these spics seething that they cant go to a concert because Toby Fox doesn't want to get tetanus from the corrugated steel walls of whatever favela these ass clowns live in, I feel that much more validated in my ticket purchase.The best part is my like $200 ticket cost more than what these idiots will make in a year. Im going to a concert these heorine apes can't get to come to their own continent, for a game they can't get translated into their own language, that they couldn't afford to go to anyway.
>>736136682>and male bisexuality isn't realSomeone should let Toby know
>>736134880UTDR threads are mostly them and Slavs. I wonder many people in this thread going “grrr kill all spics!!!” are either self hating or think they’re white because they’re from Mexico instead of Peru or something.
>>736113030why are you guys defending this fag so hard now?after shitting in him for years lol
>>736138268We're racist
No onions fan de los racistas.No onions fan de los colonizadores.No onions fan de Estados Unidos.No onions fan de Toby Fox.No onions fan de Deltarune.
>>736124415It brings a tear to my eye seeing people just completely reject the they/them narrative. Word of God in this instance isn't as important as just calling it like you see it, and saying what feels natural.I saw this a lot less in the Undertale times. Just the occasional person calling Frisk a she.It's always funny to see the panicked flailing of the pronoun crusade trying to shame you into referring to the pixels correctly. I'm sure they think that if they just get even more loud and annoying, we'll all just switch sides.
>>736138268>Why would you defend Toby?>Why aren't you on the side of literal tumblr twitter latinx faggots with trans flags in their bio?I dunno.
>>736138528Are the onions in the room with us right now?
>>736138528guys, why is 4chan so latinophobic?
>>736124296Susie is a horse
>>736138549Nigger, he invited the trannies in.
>>736138549i can understand the sentimentthere are lots of untranslated vns that i want to play and that fag of a country doesnt give a fuck about translating to anyonei wonder if rance x will be in english before 2030...
>>736138578>give browns telecomms technology>they shit up the internet when we were already having problems with normies on smartphonesThis isn't difficult to understand
>>736138651You're not even gonna try to swerve it? Just wearing the big FAGGOT label with pride.>>736138662This is expanding it into a societal issue which is pretty unrelated and maybe going too far.
I hate all shitskins I wish them a very good lifetime of suffering and poverty
>>736110571
>>736127182>>736127259I think the only "fun way" to go through a wait like this is to theorize the shit out of everything.Of course, this is more like front-loading your enjoyment in practice. Unless you've got a lot of mental discipline to separate the real from hypothetical, anything is going to disappoint if you spend long enough wondering what it could be.
>>736138662these spics are clearly zoomers who never lived in the era of the early internet where niche otaku interests were played by either learning japanese or coping with machine translationsrance on steam was a shipost for at least a fucking decade and here we are finally getting it, eventually
>>736136682>literally the opposite of reality
>>736138795I feel like you didn't get the joke so I'll explain it. The spanish words in that anon's post got hit by the word filter for asian bean that you make sauce out of.
>>736137612It’s still another man’s erect penis at the end of the day, anon. Him being snugglebait doesn’t negate that.
>>736138645all of it? I didn't know Kris was such a slut
>>736121541le heckin eggs husbanderino... untranslatable kamigekwab
>>736138971Why do you hate bisexual womxn?
>>736136928They're not real bisexuals, they're just prison gay because they're starved for touch.
>>736139015I've fucked more women than probably 90% of people on this board and I would slurp on god form Asriel's cock in a heartbeat, he's so hot
why are favela monkeys seething about this 11 years after the game came out?did toby say something they didn't like and they just needed some shitty excuse to shit on him o algo?
>>736139201>>736133525
>>736139176>I've fucked more women than probably 90% of people on this boardThat would work out to a decimal lower than 1 mathematically, so unless you're rounding here, I have questions.
>this thread
>>736139098I can't hate something that doesn't exist, women literally only ever fuck other women for male attention. I dated a girl who'd dabbled with other girls and she got really upset that it didn't make me horny and I was just sort of ambivalent about it and didn't ask her to recount the stories of her scissoring, she said other fuys she dated would beg her to tell them about it but it just did nothing for me
>>736121592Spanish fan translation exists since the release of the game, imbecile
>>736133060not even toby himself cares that much about the script, he blamed the later patched out susie line "furry degenerate" on someone else you trannies are so insecure and got triggered so badly over this nothingburger, its such a bewildering sight to me
>>736139269Bragging about sexual exploits on the internet is cringe, but the number is closer to 10 than 1 and I would still worship Asriel's cock or get him to worship mine, he's got breeding hips
>>736139201There's an Undertale "World Tour" concert that's just a couple dozen performances in the US, a couple in Europe, and a couple in Asia and Australia. They're mad that the entire southern hemisphere got ignored.Personally, I just think its funny that they're calling it world tour, when over half of it is in the US.
>>736139283Bananas fried in a pan of hot oil
>>736139176I hope you end up with a bisexual woman, anon.
>>736122489True, I saw the other day some guys asking their families what they thought about Deltarune characters and all of them said Kris was a guy
>trannies vs shitskins: the threadThank God I don’t play this dogshit tumblr game
>>736139418I hooe you end up with Asriel Dreemurr, anon
>>736139414Fired banana is a great palette cleanser, really helpful for one of those all you can eat Brazilian steakhouses.
>>736139501Bananas aren't that good and I will never understand the obsession with them, they're like mid tier fruit at best. Berries, peaches, and even pears are way better
>>736139491I hope Asriel Dreemurr ends up with a bisexual womanwait...
>>736122489>If someone draws him dating Ralsei, it's considered yaoi (that is, gay, because THEY'RE BOTH MALE), and if someone draws him dating Noelle the SJWs will start screeching about "lesbian erasure" for making the deer girl straight...I've seen people arguing both because they see any relationship between a non-binary person as queer, but also justify the latter because they think that lesbians aren't into anyone who's not a woman (and this includes of course non-binary people.)
>>736121648I feel that he would use the infamous 'le'/'elle' pronouns (like in Spider Man 2's infamous LATAM/Castillian Spanish dubs).I mean, imagine how many latinos/spaniards would get angry over this vs. how many americans would get pissed if he dared to give Kris male / female pronouns.
>>736139573I tolerate them for the potassium, the texture makes me gag on occasion.
>>736139594I mean, lesbians aren't (under the progressive logic) into non-binary people.
>>736139573I hate bananas, can't stand them. The texture makes me gag. But fried bananas are actually really good.
>>736134474The soul isn't kris' soul it's a unique character. It's the same shit as UT where the soul didn't belong to frisk or chara.>>736134538Yes it was you're just a brainlet>>736134969Yes.>>736135213Spamton alongside jevil both represent the player soul. The spinning top stuff is a reference to the world revolving/pirouette stuff, "will kill your other toys if you let it" is also a jevil reference AND a genocide reference, and "beast inside" is about the soul being the mark of the beast. Speaking of the mark of the beast, "don't forget" and "raise up your bat" are both about the red soul, which is why it's so important. The red soul being the mark of the beast, aka the devil.>because I'm with you in the dark>with your heart as MY MARK>which shall shine you the way through the waves
>>736139594Noelle is never stated to be a lesbian though. She could be bisexual, or if we want to use their terminology, dating Kris would make her pansexual.
>>736110571Toby...bro let kris be a ello already
>>73613936799% of "World Tours" always skip Latin America and the rest of the "Global South", guess the kids who were fan of Undertale/Deltarune finally got a taste of that.
>>736139721Well, the people mentioned by anon apparently think Noelle is a lesbian. I just explained to him why pairing her with Kris can mean BOTH that is lesbian erasure, while also thinking that Kris is not a man. I haven't played Undertale nor its sequel, nor I intend to. I was simply explaining a reasoning that can be seen as confusing at first.
>>736139201UT has always been huge with latinos, the recently-announced supposed world tour symphony event not going through the southern hemisphere ignited a little bit of controversy but it was actually Toby's shitty response that turned it into a powder keg because he pretty much implied his script is some high art that can't be localized unless he himself watches over it. Nobody who's sane and has read through the game could possibly agree with him, and many have mocked him for this excuse. Hilarity ensues because UTDR fans are autistic people who can't take crticism of their god Toby, so there's a huge split between regions and even within latinos themselves.A much better excuse would've been that you can't translate the niche they/them bullshit into other tongues (at least cleanly) but he's never gonna come clean with that. Unsure how untenable it is since I don't speak Japanese and can't confirm if they do away with the fagshit in the moonrune tl. I know for a fact they removed it in the Deltarune fan translation DeltaESP (not made Kris explicitly gendered though, just removed most of the pronouns that painted him as a heckin wholesome chungus enbie, making it easier for non english speaking southamericans to misgender him)
>trivia captcha as this year's aprils foolugh.
>>736139796I think its just the "come to brazil" crowd doing their usual schtick. Anyways, like I said, the whole thing being basically a US tour with a couple tacked on foreign performances (not even any in Japan where Toby lives) is pretty silly.
>>736110571To this day I'm still not interested in UT, the game and it's characters look very unappealing.
>>736139862You don't actually have to answer correctly, you can just type whatever.
>>736139862I haven't gotten it yet
>>736139860>Unsure how untenable it is since I don't speak Japanese and can't confirm if they do away with the fagshit in the moonrune tl.You can get away with not gendering a character in Japanese, especially if said character never speaks
>>736139673>It's the same shit as UT where the soul didn't belong to frisk?Does the game ever imply that the Soul isn't actually Frisk's? She never shows any sort of pushback to anything we do like Kris does. It seems like she's always on board with whatever the player wants because in essence, she's the player's vessel.I can see an argument for Chara being there, but it's clearly not his soul as he only "takes control" if you go all in on Genocide. And even then, he has to ask you to relinquish the soul at the end.
>>736140084The game specifically addresses you as being separate from both chara and frisk.
>>736139972I don't think so. I got that guy from Dark Knight Rises everyone loves to post. I typed "I don't fucking know, I've never seen this movie" and it failed the captcha.
>>736140084The game makes it clear that we aren't frisk in true pacifist when asriel tells us to fuck off and let them live their life. Also there is push back in a few scenarios like frisk refusing to drink pop. It's the turd entity scenario of frisk, chara, and the soul.
>>736139860>A much better excuse would've been that you can't translate the niche they/them bullshit into other tonguesyeah that seems to be it, he's always been a fence sitter despite the obvious woke propaganda, lots of anons here are still in denial about the non-binary thing toothen again, it's not like 'they/them' to refer to one person in english makes sense anyway
>>736140162I got some random anime girl, said goku, and it let me post.
So are the Latinx really mad about this or is it just a very loud minority? and for anyone saying it would be easy to do there's multiple Spanish dialects. Toby does one or two and the rest would still be mad they got left out.
>>736139594>they see any relationship between a non-binary person as queerI really don't give a shit about what any of this nonsense means, Kris is a boy. "Nonbinary" is a meme that bi-curious people come up with to cope with societal pressure against being attracted to both sexes, and in fact, most of the time they aren't actually attracted to both sexes. They saw gay porn that hit a specific nerve or fetish and it got them porked up one time and they decided that they aren't male or female because they jerked off to a cock or rubbed the button to a pair of tits once or twice. 99% of this phenomenon exists solely in drawn/3d animated porn form, I've blasted massive loads to gay anime or furry porn but I have literally never once in my entire life seen a real man I actually wanted to fuck
>>736140260Toby is going to obliterate his fanbase like a nuke when kris' storyline concludes in them confirming their true gender as part of "learning to love herself"
>>736140315Phonk is blaring in my mind right now
>>736140315>Toby does one or two and the rest would still be mad they got left out.something something neutral spanish, as long as is not the dogshit español de españa no one would be mad.
>>736140084>She never shows any sort of pushback to anything we do like Kris does.I mean, there's 3 instances where Frisk makes it very obvious she doesn't want to do something>being very reluctant to opening the curtain in the True Lab>refusing to laugh at Snowy's mom >straight up saying FUCK DRINKING SODA during the date with Undyne
>>736140260I think Toby is trying to have his cake and eat it too with Kris's gender. He's trying to include non-binary as an option caught under gender ambiguous.
>>736140084>sheTake it from an autistic she-frisk poster to not actually know shit about the game.
>>736139201temmie sexo
>>736140328... OK?
>>736110571It shows everyone is a total retard, actually.>Toby is a retard because he cares about "muh vision" when he already compromised it for the sake of the ratings boards and to not piss off Nintendo>American fans are entitled retards>Spics and BRs are entitled retards>Japs have no say in the matter because they're Toby's favorite children so they're retards>all other languages leaping in to go "BUT WHAT ABOUT US" are entitled retardsAnd the absolute FUNNIEST part about ALL OF THIS is that as soon as Chapter 5 gets a release date trailer, all bitching and moaning over dramas like this and Doelester will completely stop and everyone will go right back to sucking Toby's cock as if they hadn't spent the past several days/weeks arguing over whether or not he's Adolf Hitler and also an Israel-supporting Jew.
>>736140151that's because the player isn't Frisk or Chara. I'm referring to more of a literal sense.We as the player aren't the soul in either of these games. It's just our vessel of control over the world. We control the soul, and through it, dodge bullets and walk Kris around.That doesn't have to mean that Frisk is a puppet to be controlled outside of her will. Even if she's overall fine with what we choose to make her do. I don't think she really knows that her choices aren't her own. Maybe it's the other way around, and we control Frisk who controls the soul. it's left intentionally vague so that we don't try and spend all our time working through the philosophy of identity and control when we should be talking about funny skeletons and gay fish.It's more or less like any other game. We aren't Link, but we still make the choices on what he chooses to do on a moment to moment basis. That, I think, is the big thing Deltarune is trying to explore. Which is why it's at the focus of the opening and the stinger at the end of chapter 1.Also, wtf, I got Pen Pen from Evangelion as my captcha, and it was still marked as wrong.
>character who presents as masculine is perceived by most to be a manNo fucking shit. Kris has zero femininity. People only theorize she's a girl for plot twist reasons.
This is the 12th thread complaining about no Spanish or portuguese translation of a 11 year old game.Holy fucking shit you Brazilians schizos need a new hobby besides gay furry sex games.
>>736140315https://youtu.be/cCEwUFtjAr4?si=55IClmwYpog00-h0
>>736140393The ratio of teenage girls who look like Kris to teenage boys who look like Kris is like 90/10, he looks exactly like every dorky awkward loner guy everyone saw in high school
>>736140315Spics are infamous for being childish niggers that want everything handed to them.
>>736140469And that's only because Toby is an autistic fuck who refuses to divulge even the most basic information about his characters, even if it allows misinformation and mischaracterization to run rampant.Remember, he happily sat there in silence for ten years watching Chara get bastardized into "yandere antichrist", solely because of his own self-imposed code of honor to not talk about Chara in the event someone that somehow still hasn't heard about Undertale or been exposed to anything about it somehow doesn't know who Chara is or why Chara is narratively significant.
>>736140469But anon he has unkempt neck length hair, he could be PERCEIVED as a girl :^)
>>736140460Maybe it just randomly decides to give you a correct or incorrect alongside a random image that it doesn't actually keep track of.
>>736140439Not reading all that shit but you just made me realize that rouxls' shop gag where he accidentally sells his shit parallels the spamton "don't win this you'll take everything I have" sweepstakes prize
>>736140509He even has the generic bottle of apple scented shampoo that every dorky awkward loner guy in used in highschool.
>>736140595>inb4 Rouxls is chapter's 5 secret boss
>>736140460We are the soul, and the soul is it's own character. Did you ever notice how when someone attacks a darkner their damage is displayed in their color? Ex. Kris has cyan, noelle has yellow, etc.
>>736140439toby's vision was compromised because it was unfeasible to do it the way he wanted it to be 100% due to how long it was taking and the absolute state of his wrists, not because of nintendo or the rating
>>736140469>latinx esl can't readtale as old as time
>>736140556Chara was actually evil though. Asriel is just a simp who doesn't care.
>>736140734Chara wasn't even he just needed a therapist. True pacifist is literally about redeeming chara's soul.
>>736140728Kris is small, which we already know. That does not make him feminine.
>>736122489girl kris art is cute but I def see them as a dude, way moreso than frisk
>>736140728Kris is a girlThe soul is a boyTogether they are them.
>>736140776Evil people can be redeemed. Redeeming them is the act of making them cease to be evil.
I personally find great enjoyment within these recent autism wars>The english speaking UTDR fandom, composed of heckin wholesome queers, outing themselves as actually very intolerant and thin skinned racists (nothing new under the sun actually)>Even people with no stake in the matter trying to stoke the fire by calling Toby Jewish (which he literally is) and even making fanart of him as a Rabbi>All this drama forcing Toby to either out himself as conceited and form more bad blood in the community or address the they/them issue>>736140260The thing I find interesting is that translating they/them is entirely doable in spanish, (not that Toby knows this.) You can look into "leismo" and how even spaniards in specific adopted gender neutral pronouns for 99% of situations within their accent by default. You could reword a lot of sentences in the game and have them come out nearly the same. But in english, they/them is rather uncommon and more specific because it's plural. It serves to draw attention and make it more visible that Kris is meant to stay ambiguous. I personally believe that you can't just localize that to spanish, since "le" "su" "es" are widespread, but I'm not an expert on the topic. If it comes to treating Kris as gender neutral, it's possible. But you *can't* make him explicitly nonbinary.
>>736140241He tells that to the player, not the soul. That's the whole point I'm trying to make.>>736140379The first one feels more like taking a guess on how the player feels. (a pretty correct guess for almost everyone)The second is meant to highlight how the Amalgymates affect the gameplay mechanics itself like the UI. This was always meant to show how determination gives you the power to see outside the boundaries of the game to an extent..And the last one is a joke and clearly meant to be. Punctuated by the tea being labeled as the Obviously Correct Choice.It could be evidence to point to a dissonance between the player and Frisk, but it could just as easily not be. Not saying you're wrong, but try to see it from more than one point of view.>>736140417I ain't using they/them. you can't make me.
>>736140315It's a loud minority but a REALLY loud minority here. It's the only place you hear people talk about shitty fangames like Yellow and most of it is just images of donut steel characters they want to have sex with.
Im siding wirh br because I laugh everytime I see a jewish toby fox dog
>>736140734You only think that because the only confirmed screentime she has is at the end of Genocide, when you directly prove her human-hating worldview correct and she's been corrupted into a metanarrative embodiment of power and completionism.She's severely misguided, traumatized and abiding by a twisted sense of morality, yes, but to call her evil is to justify the humans who drove her to climb a mountain with the express intent of killing herself.
>>736140796most teenage boys are taller than 5'0" at age 16 unless they have dwarfism or some other growth defect and there has been zero indication that kris has either of thosekris also has no issue wearing makeup, a decidedly unmasculine practice
>>736140854Yes because the soul is THE PLAYABLE CHARACTER. NOT FRISK. IT HAS AN IDENTITY AND HISTORY AS A PERSON BEFORE WE ARRIVED, HENCE THE PRE-EXISTING BIRDCAGE. THE SOUL IS THE LINK, THE MARIO, THE MASTER CHIEF.
>>736140854Fridk is a dude not a chick.
>>736140916She's evil in the flashbacks too. She fell into the monster kindgom, got a second chance at life, and a wonderful family, and just used them to get a chance at revenge against the humans with a murder suicide plot.
>>736140945>most teenage boys are taller than 5'0" at age 16 unless they have dwarfism or some other growth defectOr they are Asian. Sure is interesting that Kris is yellow, isn't it?
how is being jewish, he is literally choosing to miss out on a massive bag of money because he's too autistic about his artistic integrity.
>>736141002Source?
>>736141049The rose.
>>736141040And it came from a place of genuine love. A twisted love as a result of trauma, but love nonetheless. She loved her new monster family so much that she hated that they were trapped underground by the very same species who drove her to a suicide mission, and wanted to set it right by her beliefs, especially after Asgore put the onus of being "the future of humans and monsters" in her head.
>>736140439gemmy post, seeing it for the way that it is
>>736140945The guitar hero section outfits were a reference to glam metal, which was known for its many male musicians who wore gaudy makeup.
>>736141114She didn't do it to free them, she just wanted to kill all humans. The monsters were just a means to an end. The monsters wanted peace. That's why she consistently acts like a manipulative sociopath in the tapes.
>>736140840Unironically, I think Toby's main problem isn't the fact he's worried about Kris getting he/himmed, she/herred or anything like that, it's the fact that if he did have to supervise a localization for a language where he can't completely obfuscate Kris's gender identity naturally like English and Japanese, he'd have to directly divulge to the localization team what Kris is supposed to be to make sure they don't fuck it up, and that takes away from how he handles Lightners in this "they're people too, so I'm not going to act like they're just characters in a videogame, it's not my right to say these things or make merchandise out of them" sense.Sure, Kris is they/themmed constantly, but at no point from Toby's own words or the game itself is it confirmed Kris is actually nonbinary. He's INCREDIBLY autistic about making sure this detail is never officially addressed, which is why there's even schizo theories about "Kris is The Girl but doesn't want to be The Girl so she's LARPing at The Cage" in the first place, because they're born from a lack of hard confirmation, even though he could've instantly put this meme to rest as early as Chapter 1 by having a character point out that Kris is nonbinary proper.
>>736140968That doesn't mean the Soul isn't naturally Frisk's though. That's what this whole talk was about.we can be the soul as our playable character without the Deltarune meta explanation that they're different entities.
>>736141248I think even Toby knows how much of a fuckup it would be to include verbatim terms like "non-binary"especially after veilguard.I think he's in a "damned if you do. damned if you don't" situation right now. He sees how the cultural tide is turning against gender identity politics being the "in" thing, and turning it into a red flag for a game, but he can't go back on any of it lest he risk alienating his most hardcore fans. I'm pretty sure he doesn't want to back down on the woke stuff, but he also doesn't want to bathe his games in controversy and distract from the actual game.
>>736141441He'll translate it to spanish 5 years after thr games' release
>>736141245if all she cared about was to get revenge on humanity, she could've just killed any of the Dreemurr and taken their souls instead
>>736141441And the only reason he even responded to the angry beaners and macacos in the first place is because if he didn't put the target on his own back by effectively telling them "if you have a problem with ANYTHING currently happening related to UTDR, bitch at me and I WILL respond eventually" simply because he knew they'd start harassing his longtime Starmen.net buddies who make up Fangamer, likely escalating to doxxing and real life danger with how deranged things can be, as well as genuine corporate problems when they also start lashing out against Materia Music and Lambert Jackson Productions, who are the responsible parties for the Undertale Determination Symphony World Tour.It's a really shitty situation overall and goes to show that even if Toby learned from watching Homestuck to be as hands-off as possible from his fandoms, he still has to pick and choose who he associates his IP with extremely carefully by making sure they practice that exact same level of diligent hands-offness (if at all possible) so they don't get roped into the danger zone when something invariably goes wrong.
>>736140638When I was in highschool I used strawberry scented shampoo because I thought it smelled good and didn't understand that girls don't like that on guys yet, he's the most archetypal dweeby awkward teenage male loser ever portrayed in any medium
>>736141571dude, what?a human can't take a monster soul. It was an integral part of the plan to have Asriel fuse with Chara's soul to become a god-like being able to destroy humanity.
>>736141739If that was the case, then why did Alphys straight up lie to Frisk about "the only way you can leave is if you kill Asgore and take his soul so you can cross the barrier"?Why did Asgore straight up lie to Frisk about "human... take my soul and cross the barrier, leave this cursed place"?
>>736141248>... he'd have to directly divulge to the localization team what Kris is supposed to be to make sure they don't fuck it up, and that takes away from how he handles Lightners in this "they're people too, so I'm not going to act like they're just characters in a videogame, it's not my right to say these things or make merchandise out of them" sense.I've heard previously that Toby refuses to make merch of the lightners, but I'd never expect it to be for THAT reason. It would definitely feel thematic given with how he was pushing the "we're here for you but please go outside and meet real people" thing with Ralsei in Ch3 and this sort of in-world fiction split he pushes in the narrative. But again it's such a conceited and contradicting take to have as a developer, because it's a goddamn game and ultimately EVERYTHING is fictional. Par for the course for Toby of course, nothing is easy with him.
>>736141825Asgore is a boss monster. Those souls are stated to linger for a short moment.You need to use a monster soul to cross the barrier, but a human can't fully absorb it.
>>736141672Nah. Shit was already starting to wind down by the time Toby posted that retarded statement. If he ignored everything like he usually does, I bet you this would've turned out to be yet another Nothing Ever Happens(tm) episode.
>>736142098Then Asgore is a retard, because he expects Frisk to suck up the fact that Asgore was just killed, grab his soul and bolt through the barrier in the three-four second window before his soul shatters and Frisk has to reload and go through the whole fight again just for another attempt.
>>736142152>even toby was tired of nothing ever happening and responded for the sole purpose of shit stirringbased or cringe?
>>736142202Yeah, maybe he should have told Frisk something like . . . I don't know,"Take my soul and cross the barrier, leave this cursed place"
>>736142296Yes. While Frisk is still processing "jesus christ I just killed the king of all monsters and likely cursed this place to a new era of hopelessness, one that will assuredly cause a chain reaction of deaths because monsters literally can't function without hope and enter a comatose death state otherwise."
>>736142098Just wondering. Anyone got the exact line that says a human can't absorb a monster soul?
>>736142098>You need to use a monster soul to cross the barrierNo you fucking don't. Monsters need a human soul to cross the barrier, not the other way around. Frisk would have had no trouble at all leaving the underground, the barrier was made to keep the monsters in, not humans, humans could walk in and out as they pleased.Asgore could have used one of the human souls he had to leave the underground at literally any time to gather the other six he needed to destroy the barrier.
>>736142558Then why the fuck did the monsters make such a big deal about "NOOOOOOOO THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN LEAVE IS IF YOU KILL ASGORE AND TAKE HIS SOUL TO CROSS THE BARRIER"?I can understand Asgore not wanting Frisk to leave because he's literally monsterkind's salvation if he gets the kid's soul, but what does everyone else have to gain in this lie? All they're doing is encouraging Frisk to go kill their king, because this kid has proven again and again that he is fully committed to his mission, and the king is stated to be the main reason most monsters aren't depressed lumps falling down and dying from bleak hopelessness.
>>736142558>Monsters need a human soul to cross the barrier, not the other way around.Nigger, just play the fucking game. Here, straight from the dialogue dump. >A human SOUL isn't strong enough to cross the barrier alone.>It takes at least a human soul...>And a monster soul.>If you want to go home...>You'll have to take his soul.
If Undertale was translated into my language I'd have a heart attack
>>736142662>THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN LEAVE IS IF YOU KILL ASGOREBecause he's stationed right next to the barrier, there's no other way past him>AND TAKE HIS SOULThis was never stated, by anyone. Humans can just walk right through the bloody thing. A monster that absorbs one human soul can walk right on through as well. It takes seven human souls or six and every last monster soul to destroy the barrier.>I can understand Asgore not wanting Frisk to leave because he's literally monsterkind's salvation if he gets the kid's soulThis wasn't the case. It was in the beginning, but Asgore's not a fighter, or he would have taken the first human soul and gone through the barrier to get the others. He was a coward hoping he'd never gain all the souls needed to destroy the barrier, but also doesn't want all the monsters to lose hope in escaping. Frisk forces his hand by coming to him, otherwise Asgore would have planted his ass where he was and never gone after Frisk, even if he had chosen to live the rest of his life in the underground.
If deltarune was translated into Bosnian, toriel would be named toriel dreemurić
>>736142873>This was never stated, by anyone.READ MOTHERFUCKER, READ>>736142801
>>736142873Straight from Alphys's mouth.>I...>I lied to you.>A human SOUL isn't strong enough to cross the barrier alone.>It takes at least a human soul...>And a monster soul.>...>If you want to go home...>You'll have to take his soul.>You'll have to kill ASGORE.
>>736142801Alphys is not correct, she believes this because the only instance of someone crossing the barrier is Asriel, who absorbed Chara's soul. Frisk doesn't absorb Asgore's soul, but successfully leaves the underground after their fight.
>>736142978>Frisk doesn't absorb Asgore's soul, but successfully leaves the underground after their fight.Because Flowey uses the literal god powers he obtains from the six human souls to transport Frisk out of the barrier. He wants Frisk to leave, barrier still intact, monsters still trapped, now without their king, all so there's a pristine sense of dissatisfaction and a drive to pursue "a better ending" by reloading and doing things differently/doing more things.You're ignoring the fact that Frisk ONLY gets shat out on the other side of the barrier AFTER Flowey uses his god powers.
>the text very clearly explains several times that humans can't make it past the barrier on their own >autist still refuses to accept that his headcanon is wrongdamn, sure wish I had that much conviction
How does he do it?
>>736143152I don't think there's any indication Flowey does that after Frisk beats him. Unless Toby clarifies otherwise, I think humans can just cross the barrier at will and the monsters only believe they need human level soul power plus one to cross the barrier themselves so they don't just combine and cross it as a monster godzilla or something.
>>736140315it's more about availability than accurateness
>>736143370the royal sceptre and family jewels aren't just for show
>>736110571It's funny as hell how much they've been shitting on him and the Deltarune fans are going overtime defending him.
>>736143192Undertale fans can't read, anon
>>736143657...And we now know definitively it's because the majority of them are ESLs who can't actually understand the English language, and that's why they're seething so hard over a lack of Spanish/Portuguese localization!
>>736110571Nobody cares about LATAM thoughbeit.
>>736143830>All the bad theories are from ESL playersI can imagine it
What's he up to?
>>736144146Fucking Susie.
>>736121648>im 100% convinced such decision was made because pic relno it's a decision he made because he learned japanese and saw how god awful japanese localization are and decided he doesn't even want to begin to deal with that unless he can do it himself or have extreme supervision, which he is 100% in his right to do, it's his game and his writing, the only people who complain about this are people that will never create anything they care about in their entire life
>>736144259are ENG -> JP translations really that bad?
>>736140916>You only think that because the only confirmed screentime she has is at the end of Genocide,asriel tells us she wasn't a good person at the end of the pacifist route
>>736144346it depends on where you get them, some are made out of love and some are made out of pure vitriol hatred out of anything japanese, which is also why toby literally ENDORSED fansubs, almost like he comes from an era where the only places to get actual good subs were people that cared too much
>>736144213God, I wish. Imagine if Ralsei gets pushed to the edge, and becomes the fucking MAN for a scene, looking like a badass. Then cut to Susie looking even wetter and thirstier than Noelle did when around Susie in chapter 2.That would be cool.
>>736144372And Toby had to clarify, ten years later, that what Asriel by that line is that he was idolizing a romanticized version of Chara in his head who never existed, a Chara without flaw, a Chara who did not guilt trip him into helping her kill himself so she could massacre a bunch of human.But he still cherishes the real Chara dearly, faults and all, because she was still someone worth caring for in his eyes.If Chara really were a bad person, he wouldn't be choosing to spend his final moments as "Asriel" tending to her grave.
>>736142346>FB_IMGkill yourself spic
>>736140916>but to call her evil is to justify the humans who drove her to climb a mountain with the express intent of killing herself.Evil begets evil, murderers and rapists often grew up in violent environment and suffered abuse that made them into twisted beings, but this still doesn't change the fact that their actions are evil. It might not be their fault that they are evil, but they are evil nonetheless. Now, if you want to claim moral relativism and say that because of your particular moral interpretation makes you believe that Chara isn't evil, then that's all well and good, but it also means my beliefs are just as valid as yours.
>>736122162>deltarune's basic idea was laid out before undertale released>kris' gender is central to ittobias fox was truly ahead of his time
>>736110571>play tons of japanese games>notice tons of japanese games have dog shit translations that genuinely ruin them>think how fucking gay it is that consistently official translations are just shit>wish devs actually cared about their products instead of just shipping out dog shit because they don't care>see toby only has official translations for his games in the languages he actually understands so they don't get dog shit official translationsYou'd have to be brown to not think he is based for doing it.
>>736141002Frisk is a cute girl
i miss my wife
>>736141049>Massive bag of moneyThey're going to pirate the game
>>736134017wow that sucks. i hate xitter can make better oc than a lot of the chans these days.
>>736121648>>736110571That's what you get for being a fucking subversive jew Tobías Zorro.That's what you fucking get for letting your fanbase think Kris is a tranny>>736144259Localizations for Undertale and Deltarune are done by 8-4. A company famous for they god awful localizations.
How come Russians just organize and make a translation for like every game since the early times of gaming because no one fucking cares about this region yet all the other people are stinking up the place about having no official translation
>>736128246We love how much of a weeb he is.
>>736130198Sex with Frisk!Susie and Chara!Noelle
>>736137487I was going to appreciate human sexo but the link is gone.
>>736140315BRs have no self awareness.
>>736139591Chara is not gay, it's just that Frisk is irresistible to everyone. She doesn't count.
>>736110571Nobody cares that you don't have a spanish translation and they think your tantrum over it is hilarious at best
>>736110571>think it can't be translatedDid anyone say that? The creator is an auteur who doesn't want to produce a translation he's not directly involved in. It can be translated by fans just fine
>>736113260It's a spite thing. They don't care about the translation, they want to force him to bend the knee before progressivism and globalism
>>736151508>A company famous for they god awful localizations.toby personally had a heavy hand in the localization into japanese, it's why chapter 3 and 4 took so long to fucking come out you absolute fucking retard, there is literally documented news letters about this
>>736152585i genuinely do not understand where this victim complex comes from, i'm also spanish but holy fuck it is genuinely not that deep, the writer doesn't want his writing translated officially unless he can know what is actually being translated, is that a concept that is genuinely impossible to comprehend? also why are they acting like there isn't decades of japanese games that never get translated into english
>>736144213Fact
>>736152585I'm a weeb who can't read Japanese very well. You know what I do when there's an untranslated game I want to play? I say "damn that's a shame, guess I should wait for a fan translation or get better at the language".
>>736152906ESL can't follow a conversation?>no it's a decision he made because he learned japanese and saw how god awful japanese localization are>But he hired the shittiest localization company, 8-4>NOOO YOU ABSOLUTE FUCKING RETARD
You really can't hate brown people enough.
>>736139594>antisocial>loves knives>dude haircut>sword user with a cape>main color in the dark world is blue>lives in brother's shadow and is constantly compared to him>victim of bullying that nobody did anything about>wants to be a dog>may or may not have a sense of disdain and ire for his entire race (chud phenotype)There are close to no "girly" things about Kris, the best you can get is unisex things like liking chocolate or wearing ribbons. Idk what you'd even say he's a girl for. No I'm not watching your retarded theory channels.
>>736153016>also why are they acting like there isn't decades of japanese games that never get translated into englishBecause then they can't be victims and throw a cancel-tantrum
>>736153093anon, the post toby made is literally him saying if he hired a company to translate into spanish he would have no way of knowing if they did a good job or not because he cannot speak or read spanish. he knows how to speak and read japanese so he could oversee if the translation was actually good or not
>>736152585better liked race is better liked.
>>736139673>It's the same shit as UT where the soul didn't belong to frisk or chara.Undertale's soul is just Frisk's soul. She doesn't have an alien soul like Kris.
>>736153535japanese fans didn't ask for a translation, he's a weaboo who took the time to learn the language and wanted the game to have a japanese translation
>>736153172Translations should be focus-tested by multilingual purist chuds who post "total localizer death" on 4chanNo, I'm not joking
>>736140084The player is still a separate entity from Frisk and Chara even if that isn't super relevant outside of the endings of pacifist and genocide. The SOUL is still just hers, though.>>736140417Female humanbros usually know more than anyone else though from my experience no I'm not biased.
>>736153203I'm pretty sure they wouldn't be putting words like "dirty, stinking entitled" into the mouth of a person who didn't pander to them, for one
If I ever make a game I'm translating it into every single language except Spanish
>>736140734Chara is morally gray, not fully evil but not fully good.
>>736153828First you must learn all of those languages. You wouldn't want to compromise on your artistic vision, would you?
>>736141739Humans can take boss monster souls which is what the dreemurrs are.
>>736152891but beaners hate the fact that toby is a faggot
>>736139501how's the banana gonna get a job?
>>736143370He is 12 inches
>>736153872You misunderstand. My artistic vision is pissing off entitled dickheads like yourself.
He should just delay chapter 5 so he can translate it into some random language no one cares about. Like Swahili or Finnish
>>736154272A true creatividad in our midst... Forgive my rudeness.
>>736154248
>>736151002Me too...
>>736152585They need to cope that Toby LOVES nippon.
>progressives who don't get their way with their latest petty hysteria start openly mocking concepts like artistic integrity, free speech or journalistic ethics, and show everyone exactly how morally barren they really areEVERY TIME
>>736154343Forgiven.
>>736152557What's up with catbox links lately? They keep on dying just a few hours after being posted.
