"YOU CANT KILL ME! IM ALREADY DEAD TOMORROW" - Psycho tzu
Today I am reminded 4 exists and I have no interest in it.
>>736115237Heard the game still runs like shit.
>>736115272runs like shit is an understatement, the fucking first game runs like smooth water in comparison.
Borderlands 2 was lightning in a bottle. It must've been a complete accident considering how shit all the subsequent titles are.
>>736117226I have come to accept this after beating Borderlands 3 last year. Gearbox doesn't get what made BL2 so great.
you would think when a company suddenly has a good IP on its hand, every decision must be tripled stamped and approved by the CEO himself. For some reason they hire a pack of random niggers to write BL3 and kills off Maya for no fucking reason to plug some nigress' self insert. Boom, your billion dollar IP goes down the toilet overnight.
>>736119005It sure as hell wasn't the writing.
1 and TPS are the only good ones
>>736119005BL2 doesn't get what made 1 great. This stupid fucking company doesn't get anything.
>>7361198283 has by far the best gameplay and the writing in sidequests and DLC is really good
>>736119916Anon, I think there's a distinct tone shift in BL2 specifically because the power vacuum of the crimson lance getting fucked over. I think Hyperion and Handsome Jack are infinitely more interesting imo.
>>7361200491 has the best guns and Moze was the only character i played in 3 and she was boring as shit.
>>736115341yeah your 1060 will probably handle a 2009 game better than a 2025 game
>>736119828That aussie piece of shit was the worst game I have ever played in years. I hated every single fucking minute of it, not one joke was funny and not one character made sense.The Claptrap DLC was hilarious though.
>>736120163>1 has the best gunsit has like 3 guns worth using and the game hardly has any mechanics at all
>>736119174I genuinely could not bear to read or look at anything BL3 related for years and I'm just finding out that Maya fucking died. >>736120224The joke is BL GOTY is a fucking mess and still has less bugs than 4
>>736119005Borderlands 3 was a great game except for the writing. The gameplay would make it the best game in the series but the pure cringe of so much of the dialogue unfortunately brings down the overall experience considerably
I swear it's like everyone collectively understands the issues with the franchise, but refuse to acknowledge they mostly came from BL2 itself. They keep asking for Borderlands 2 2 and wondering why the everything is shit when they are literally giving you exactly what you asked for.
>>7361202621 had grounded and believable guns. Ever since the gunplay has felt like shooting mattel nerf toys because they cant help themselves but be le wacky and quirky with everything.
>>736120394The guns were pretty fun, liked the Atlas smart rifles.Would never play again without a mod to skip all the stand around while Lilith flaps her jaw for an hour parts.
>>736120614>playing borderlands for the realism
>>736120580The problems with 2 are magnified tenfold in 3.
>>736120676>YesAnd also 2 is way too cartoony. Again, this stupid fucking company just doesn't get it.
>>736120746lol
>>736120580When a have alot of salt on my plate, it doesn't ruin the meal but It could've used less salt.. But that doesn't mean I didn't want salt at all or a giant fucking bucket of it. BL2 was better than BL1, but acting like BL3 is somehow on the same level of 2 or acting like people wanted THAT is some schizophrenic thinking.
>>736120580Yeah, BL2 destroyed the direction of the series. The wackiness was present in the background for most of the first game, but it became pervasive with BL2, and was especially bad because they insisted on having a serious, semi-tragic sci-fi melodrama going on at the same time.
BL2>TFTBL>BL3>BL1>Wonderlands>TPS>Legends>NTFTWI haven't played 4 but I doubt it's any higher than BL3>>736120580I find extremely funny how Randy looked at the success of BL2 and decided to use it as the blueprint for BL3Then he goes and cranks the shittiness up while keeping what actually made bl2 good at a bare minimum
>solve the issue of cutscenes and dialogue in a fast paced co-op game by just having the characters jabber at you over the radio while you continue to play>still constantly roadblock the players with lots of long forced stand and talk sections anywayWhy would they do this? Always just used them as an excuse to go take a piss or grab a snack but does the game really need mandatory intermissions like that?
>>736121236based Tales and 3 enjoyer
>>736115237They just released some new DLC. Apparently it's 3-4 hours and 30 dollarydoos.So yeah, they keep disappointing.
>>736120337>avoiding bl3You're missing out on a solid 25 hours of "slowly walking while the npc spouts reddit cringe" inside a 30 hour campaign
>>736121562I remember hearing dialogue from the game and seeing the new villains.... How the fuck did we go from Handsome Jack to these rainbow mohawked retards.
>>736121663Villains were cringe, but the idea behind what they were was good. Too bad the execution was totally botched.
>>736120394>parts don't matter for mayhem 11, only anointments do>endgame content is two takedowns and a single raid boss, and one of the takedowns suck>three out of four vault hunters play as worse versions of existing VHs instead of bringing something new to the table>all non-legendaries are uselessBL2 players didn't ask for that shit.
>>736115129I have never liked how Borderlands 2 shit over the vault hunters in borderlands 1.>yo jack came in and beat everyone up without an issue>new vault hunters, you're the super duper mega strong guys, you can kill anyone and only you can do it, not those stinky old fucks from the first game.It just felt like a shitty way of propping up the new vault hunters. My only consolation is that Brick and Mordecai seemed close in 2 and in future games which I like because my best friend and I played a lot of BL1 together. I was always Mordecai and he was always Brick.
>>736121236Borderlands 3 had solid gunplay, but I remember thinking the missions/story/maps were shitty and so boring that I didn't feel the urge to replay them immediately like 2 or even 1.
>>736122049half the story hinged on having played Tales From the Borderlands so if you didn't you had no context for anything
>>736121921To be fair, that's more an aspect of being the hero of a videogame. Didn't feel like they were shitting on them but more you were an unpredicted number that tipped the scales in a failing rebellion, which.. I mean yeah? Pandora is filled with interesting, and or moronic people, so it felt less like the original characters sucked at their job and more they can barely get everyone to organize effectively imo.
>>736119174>you would think when a company suddenly has a good IP on its hand, every decision must be tripled stamped and approved by the CEO himselfthis actually is what hinders a lot of games. there tends to be a lot of bureaucratic bloat which makes development a slog. I remember hearing a while back that one of the bigger blizzard devs/execs left because making a simple choice for development in their games went from needing 1 guys approval to having an entire chain of hands to go through. Apparently the same thing is happening to bethesda which is why one of the big devs for Skyrim left. Among other things, he claimed that he used to be able to just walk into Todd's office and talk about how development was going and bring up issues or ideas, and now that's impossible.
>>736121879They would've worked as chumps being used by a greater-scope villain, like Handsome Jack.
>>736122426>Following the orders to some automatic bugged the fuck out Handsome Jack AI created so he didn't need to speak with them. Lol lmao even
>>736115237I still can't quite believe the vault hunters look like NPCs this time around
>>736117226I know this board hates Borderlands but Borderlands 2 is probably one of my favorite games of all time. I still play it to this day but Borderlands 3 didn't click for me and only ever go back to playing with Gaige and Maya.
>>736122256the issue with that is that is that the game sucks you off since the very beginning and it repeatedly mentions how jack clowned on the original hunters. Early on it shows that original characters are already organized but are struggling because they're getting their asses beat. Roland already leads the crimson raiders despite them having setbacks with Bloodshots, Lilith faking her death, etc. They have back up plans as shown by the floating sanctuary plan, They're already fairly on top of everything. the biggest issue really is manpower, and that's where the vault hunter come in, so it's not really an organizational skill IMO.Maybe i'm just bitter about it, but replaying the game recently this is how it feels.
>>736122750I find it funny how people on /v/ will eat literal shit out of a trash can but some slightly dated ironic humor turns them to ash like a vampire to sunlight.To say the bar is all over the place, is an understatement, its teleporting up and down constantly.
>>736122817Yeah I do understand tbf. I'm not gonna act like BL2 is spotless, it has its ups and downs, and I do agree they could've given the original vault hunters more elbow grease. To me it felt more like an overwhelming corporate force squashing mercs who were more prepared for a paramilitary group, but yeah I agree they could've given them better credit narratively.
I have always hated Tiny Tina. her dialogue is ass, even in a game filled with whacky dialogue, she is just annoying.
>>736122750For me it was Axton and Krieg, the former for solo playthroughs and the later for co-op with friends when they used to play.Even the characters were all better than most later entries.
>>736122256nta, but they were definitely trying to shit on and humilate every single OG character so they could fellate Burch's OCs. Fuck man, one of Mordecai's side quest reveals he was literally cucked while characters like Ellie and Tine side quests are about how they solo bandits and how everyone loves them or some shit.
>>736115272BL4 has some great graphics but it doesn't look that much better than BL3 to be running so much fucking worse.
>>7361228212, TPS, and even 3 are genuinely funny a lot of the time, especially in sidequests, and 2's campaign is astonishingly well-written and does NOT rely entirely on Handsome Jack's VA performance like people always love to saythey're pretty fucking good games except for 4 and also randy pitchford is a fucking shitbag
>>736122959I sometimes theorize that the fixation on Tiny Tina is part of why later entries were worse. She's a character voiced (and designed?) by the niece of one of the lead devs or something, and he let her suggestions and taste guide development later on. It blinded him to the fact she was the worst part of BL2.
Reminding myself that they brought Maya in only to kill her off in 3 wishes they did the same but to Ava in 4.
Did people like the last BL2 DLC that came out just before BL3? I enjoyed having more BL2 to play but it lacked the charm of the base game imo
>>736123087Again, the game isn't spotless and those are the downs for sure, but to me its one of those eye roll moments to anything.But in absolute defense to BL2, Axton is a divorced military reject who fucks his turret, Krieg is Krieg, Zer0 is a ninja who can't give one liners for shit, and Gaige is a nerdy punk anarchist larper. Kinda equals out....?
say what you want, but the boss in the BL2 DLC that falls down the stairs and dies was a funny gag.
>>736117226in the age of remakes im surprised they havent remade borderlands 1 and or 2, imagine those games with 3 or 4s gunplay. 2 isnt too bad but man the gunplay in borderlands 1 has aged like milk
>>736123114Honestly for me it's 1-3 that aren't bad games but the writing in 3 if god awful. I think the cringe factor of these games is overblown but you can feel it in TPS and 3. TPS is kinda meh but the vault hunters aren't bad.
>>736123567I actually like how the whole combat system works in BL2 best. I guess you could argue there are less weapon types than later on but I'm perfectly fine with it.I don't see any reason to remaster it in any way since the graphics are timeless, using that specific comic-book style means the only problem might be resolution if monitors get any bigger.Like some other anons have suggested, later games look the same but play worse because they're in modern engines that they don't have to be in.
>>736115129Unironically I do wonder what made them think that killing one of their most popular playable characters was a good ideaKilling Krieg would had worked better as they could had made it both tragic and a satisfying end to his character "arc"
>>736117226I'll live and die shillin that the best BL game is the Pre Sequel
>>736123268The DLC butchered some Tales characters and the new enemies are just reskinned Lost Legion from the Pre-Sequel. But, it has some solid new items, a fun generic legendary + XP farm in Uranus, and the best Chubby farm in the game, so I like it.
>>736123859Pre Sequel is overhated imo. Definitely weaker than the first two games, but still enjoyable. It was funnier than 2.
>>736117226Pre sequel is better
>>736124331>>736123859Good old /v/ contrarianism
>>736124446Says the bandwagoner.
>>736124446TPS is great but half of /v/ loses their mind because of an unfunny lesbian in the first few hours
>>736124534I was calling BL2 the best since before it was cool
>>736124535My favorite TPS character is Claptrap. His forced-humor humor works for me. I didn't like the last arc of that game though and the gravity stuff was annoying.
>new vault hunter released >check out skill tree>still can't inspire myself to careI valued my time with Borderlands 2, Pre-Sequel, and parts of 3, but it's finally time to let go.
>>736120224You sound upset.>>736120337The original release of BL1 is fine for what it is. It's the remaster that's the actual hot mess, suffering from a major memory leak issue that never got fixed.
If they brought back the BL2 cast for a new game would it save it?
>>736124925i think randy pitchford needs to die (since this is the only way he'll ever leave gearbox) before borderlands can be good again
>>736124886>saw the early shit of c4sh>"damn he looks sick, finally a normal non woke character">hes fucking jamaican instead of some edgy fucker like zer0its all so tiresome
Nothing is more emblematic of the series losing its balls than going from "midgets" to "tinks".
>>736125796I mean, it's kinda cool that he's Jamaican, but I'm more a sucker for a lone ranger. Like most people.
>>736122959Tina was acceptable in controlled doses. I imagine the latter games completely ignored that detail & shoved her down your throat with zero discretion.
>Best story>Best gameplay>Best skilltrees>Best dlc mission>No slag and get cool cryo insteadBorderlands fans will never admit that TPS was the best game in the series.
>>736121893I love my boy Axton but Moze actually was fantastic to play.
>>736125972They should have become twinks
is Krieg a mutant? Because he's freakishly huge and kind of weird looking anatomically.Like he's a missing link between the regular psycho and a badass psycho?
>>736127839actually the opposite, tiny only appears in like 1 or 2 missions in BL3, obviously she's all over wonderlands but thats more of a spinoff than a part of bl3
krieg FUCKS maya
>>736128431Abysmal content volume is the problem with TPS.If it had a comparable amount to 3, yeah, it'd be fucking fantastic.
>>736124886Isnt the new DLC story with Ellie and Moxxi garbage too? I'm just sick of the old borderlands characters already and the new ones suck too
>>736115237dlc for 4 is ass. i hate Ellie so damn much, i dont get why they brought her back
>>736130689It's alright, but overpriced due to the new VH forced as part of the package.
Ive played all the borderlands game by chronological order over the last six months unbiased and with minimal attention to the gayass storyline and writing 2 > DLC for 2 > presequel > tiny tina > 1 > 3Why was 3 so shit? And is 4 better then 3?
I don't know how everyone feels about this, but Borderlands' art style looks better with less details and choppier animation. The characters were never meant to move like real people at 60fps.>>736128431I've always stood by it. I just wished it had a second DLC. One day, I wish to make a mod for it but I lost all interest in the series>>736129238He's a psycho.>>736130689Haven't played it or 4 yet. My last BL game was Wonderlands and it was a drag in more ways than one. Which is a shame because the enemy designs have only improved though BL2's Hyperion robots are the best
Liked 1, hated 2 with all my heart. Which entry do I play next, if at all?
These games were always shit. But the bug in the first game where you could look at the floor and spam the bird for infinite birds was funny.
>>736132054You don't. 2 is mild compared to everything that came after.
>>736132054none because you lack whimsy
>>736115129Trans franchise
>>736115129This constantly feels like a series that succeeds in spite of its creators rather than because of it.
2>1=TPS=translands>4>33 had the worst writing I’ve ever seen in a game You can almost feel Randy’s brain deteriorating in real time with each game.
4 is so goddamn boring with the open world sloppa. I stopped after the intro where you choose your next quest area.I played as the summoner chick because I like pet classes, and the game just loses me with the open world shit. Why does EVERYTHING have to be open world with shitty ass side objectives now?
>>736132462Correct.And it is SPECIFICALLY the developer, rather than publisher in this case.While 2k isn't a good publisher by any means, Randy has proven REPEATEDLY how much of a scumbag he can be.
>>736117226It still means much closer to 3's humor than 1's, but it was still tolerable.Also, Anarchy Gaige is still the most fun I've had with the series ever.
>>736131262The gameplay and variety of 3 is better than 2 I feel. What I always wished they did was repackage a lot of the earlier game DLCs into later games. Things like the Tourge wreslemania DLC and the pirates into 3 for example. Or even bring back older vaulthunters. I would have loved to play Lilith again, she was broken af.
>>736133239It's just that I can see how the game as a series keeps making logical improvements to the core gameplay that make the moment to moment shooting and looting fun, with the side games being grounds to experiment with ideas. Yet for whatever reason there's a lot of "new" ideas in 4 that feel completely fucking backwards in design. Unless they've fixed or changed it, why do class mods primarily drop for classes I'm NOT playing but not the one I am? Why is the button to melee and use the grappling hook the same key that routinely mistakes one for the other? Why do at best 1 of 3 skill tree per VH actually function out of the box on launch, didn't they figure this shit out after 3 games by now? Why replace the very modular mayhem mode with a retarded system where you replay whole quests, dialogue and long fucking pauses included? Who the fuck thought reducing enemy variety was a good idea, there's less enemy variety even between factions than there were in BL2.The game feels like the worst aspects of previous games mixed with an empty feeling "open world" where once again, the best parts of it are when I'm in a legacy dungeon where things are more linear in design and therefore has (usually) better pacing throughout. I haven't even gotten to the performance issues because buddy, there's a lot. A friend bought this for me as well to play together and we couldn't go more than 30 minutes without the game just crashing on its own fairly regularly.
>>736123119She's voiced by Ashly Burch anon, she's only there because her cuck brother got her a job.
>>736133505Something something blinded by greed, the actual programmers, designers, and balance team don't care because it's a project they aren't enjoying working on, so they half ass it, leaders pretend like everything is fine, then push shit through just to get it done and get a paycheck.Thus far, the game itself is the most highly-rated part of the whole lineup of products at 60%, which is the lowest value for their mainline games.. ever.They fucked up and they don't care enough to fix it.
>>736133778Frankly we should've seen it coming with the Borderlands movie being so shit, the new Tales of the Borderlands doubling down on all the retarded writing decisions 3 made, and even Wonderlands having some questionable choices as well. It's been downhill after 3 which is saying something.
>>736135172>after 33 took the Epic Deal, which basically signed their future away as "we only care about money, you do not matter."They didn't take it for 4 because they probably didn't believe they could afford that big of a sales loss.
So apparently in the new DLC, Moxxi is still seeing Timothy and they shag so hard it powers the casino
>generic black science lady>generic looking sassy latina siren>viking guy >Tan star-lord wannabeWhat the hell was up with Borderlands 4 character design? I never bought the game because every vault hunter looked so uninteresting and after 3 and TTWL I just figured it would be trash.
>>736135812Note that the designs were changed after people pointed out how dog shit the original concepts were. This is the less egregious version of the BL4 vault hunters.
Rage 1 > Any borderlands. Call me retarded.
>>736136820They're not even remotely comparable.
>>736136034I don't know how you can get worse than black science lady. the only place she would look like she belongs is tumbler self insert fan-art.
>>736137064Tru. I just wanted to talk about rage... Also, WTF is this spur.us shit? They seemingly rangeban safe ip's even from desktop.
zane gang
>>736135812now that you mention it, I don't even know who the new vault hunters areI don't know anything about bl4 just that it runs like shit
what was it with 2K trying to push "no death" mechanics in bioshock and borderlands? the vita chambers and the new-u stations were both pretty much the same mechanic and removed all tension from "playing" the game.
Anyone try Gamba Bot yet?
>>736137485Does he speak like a robo-cajun?
BL3 is so god damn smooth and funI even enjoyed its battle royale thingy
>One of the most fun Berserker classes in all of vidya>Nothing comes closeAlso shitty nigger mods tongue my shitty nigger anus.
>>736138146I cannot overstate my love for a melee character who makes so many explosions that you have to aim with the minimap. Tried to force my way through BL3 again recently to play his DLC. Couldn't do it.
>>736137986True, arms race is fun
>>736137483Bot post.
Borderlands 4 is in this weird state where it's not the worst at anything but not the best at anything either. Also it's so strange how the game doesn't even have a soundtrack. The only tracks I can think of are the main menu theme and the track that plays right before you entire the final boss area
>>736138392answer the question or move along. "no death" mechanics like those in bioshock and borderlands are garbage and remove tension from games.>but i lose some dollarydoos when i die in borderlands! there is a cost!dollars are pretty much worthless in the game. they don't do shit.
>>736138721Borderslands is just following Diablo 2's death system and Bioshock's is literally just SS1/2's death system.
>>736138721>wanting punishing deaths in a game that markets casual co-op game as one of it's features
>>736138916it's bad>>736139923>wanting consequence in a game is a bad thing
>>736138435Genuinely baffling that they didn't bother to get Jesper Kyd back who did the soundtrack of the previous games, and just got some no-names.
Borderlands 3 is a step down from 2 but Moze is my favorite VH of all time.
>>736141604What's fun about her? I plan of playing BL3 soon but I have no idea who to play, none of them really reach out to me.
>>736135756>The punchline is....sex!Western writing is so fucking cringe
i'm glad rafa's helmet is on by default because he might just be the ugliest motherfucker in any of the borderlands games
Borderlands 2 still runs like dogshit on amd cards without forcing it to run through vulkan, no matter how low you crank the resolution it still stutters and lags, also the commander lilith op 10 dlc broke half the endgame bosses and they never fixed it.I heard a theory that they broke the game with op 10 on purpose due to resenting bl2s success relative to the later entry’s and i kind of believe it after seeing how little people care about 3 and to a larger extent 4, bl2 is in desperate need of one final stability and balancing patch and im deeply sad we will probably never get it
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