When did marketing your indie game become a matter of invoking more popular titles and sometimes even other indies?
indies were never good
Around 2018 probably.
because thats the easiest way to communicate ideas, indie devs don't have the luxury of being one of the 10 games that kid will have for months until their parents buy something else, so they have to pitch their games well.
>>736119560ThisI think I bought like two, on accident
late armor games into kongregate era, so i'd say about 06 was when it really crystalized.
>>736119513Hold on anon, I gotta give you the indie hate image
That's every indie developer since the beginning of time. "It's like Adventure, but with frogs!" They're children and can only steal other ideas.
>>736119513video games have existed for 50 years. what original idea is left?
>>736119513As an enjoyer of some of those titles, I played the demo of Mr. Sleepy Man and thought it was horrible. The worst part being how bad controlling the character felt.
>>736119874absolutely disgusting
Imagine needing to ride the coattails of a superior video game just to sell two copies (that is, if they even finish making the game).Twitter "gamedevs" are a joke.
>>736124753you haven't finished your game though
indies are good
>>736119513>>736119874This shit is just AI, isn't it?
>>736126592Nah if an indie even smells a hint of slop they go absolutely ape shit and get all 3 of their followers to harass you endlessly for using AI.
>>736119513>See an indie game "inspired" by Parasite Eve>It's literally the same UI and first enemyI hate that indie devs have the Divine Spark™ but end up using it completely wrong
>>736119513That's been a cornerstone of marketing since marketing was a thing.
>>736119513>When did marketing your indie game become a matter of invoking more popular titlesThis was always the case, old indie games were invoking popular NES games
>>736119513>If you liked games that are nothing like each other you will like mine!Not sure how this works
>>736126592This is an epidemic, no AI involved.
>>736119874It's funny how this feels more offensive than the 8-bit platformers and depression walking simulators from 2012
>>736119513You will like my indie game if you played these games:- Rapelay- Princess Maker 2- Daytona- Tower of Trample
>>736119560>>736119852FPS indies are pretty solid imo
>>736125382Love how putting out a game for sale no matter how shitty and derivative is considered a badge of honor. They taught this way of thinking to people during gamergate when women and transfolx were being invited into the industry.
Oh I saw that game, I like the look of it.
>>736126592indies see an indie game post taking off so they all quote reply it with their own game, forced meme marketing if you will.
>>736119513Because everything has been done before.
>>736119513I hate the notion of devs having to become algorithm slaves for marketing and especially abhor this type of post, but I think that naming other games to make potential fans understand what they're getting into at first glance is a good thing. As an example, both Metroid Prime and Super Mario Galaxy could be referred as 3D platformers. But the games couldn't be more different despite them belonging to the same genre technically.It does feel like indie devs lack inspiration or try to ride the coattails of other successful games if not beloved classics by "associating" their slop to them, but to people who play a fuckton of games (surely the norm on /v/) being told immediately what you can expect saves a lot of time. For all the memes around roguelites or indie JRPG walking sims, a lot of games under these tags offer a variety of unique experiences depending on the niche they target or the fetish(es) of developers involved.With that said end your fucking life twitter screencap poster, there's a non-zero chance this thread is just another ragebait created to make people waste their time
>>736119513Because it's easy and effective, especially in thisbday and age when everyone has the attention-span of a gold fish.Just tell me what your games like, and I'll check it out if I enjoy those games.Expecting people to watch a trailer and determine for themselves whether or not they'll like it is asking too much.
sadly algorithms do shit like that now, you have to say what popular thing that they already know is like so they aren't "blind"
NO MATTER HOW POOR PEOPLE ARE, WE CANNOT FORGET OUR DIGNITY
>>736128059you can't dab on people for not finishing their games when you still haven't released anything
>>736119513Because they don't have an established studio name or IP name to use
Saying a game is like a game I like is the only marketing that can possibly work on me.
>>736130412same
>>736119513my game is just a derivative copy of x and y, but you cant call me soulless because im indie
oversaturation of vidyathe music industry does the same thing to indie bands"for fans of"
>>736130190You absolutely can. Just because Hollywood or AAA "finishes" their product doesn't mean it's good or that it should exist
>>736119513Soulless indie devs are those who are looking to make money instead of just for the sake of making a good game
>>736128019kek
>>736128019So you kidnap a young girl and have to drive away with her, then you raise her but she becomes a mesugaki who bullies your dick if you don't do good enough in races?
>>736119513I dislike indie developers because their lack of output in the stealth-action genre outside the exception of real time tactics. I will not ever treat them seriously as game developers until they start putting out games of the same caliber of at least early 2000s double A releases. Also utilizing light levels and sound propagation instead of line of sight detection, not crucial but it is preferred. There's still ways to utilize line of sight.What they're attempting right now in RE style survival horror and may have reached the same levels of early mid 2000s double A development in some regards if we're judging some newer releases. But that's also a cop out in terms of design because it doesn't rely on having to program competent enemy AI, just basic functions for you to walk back as you shoot the enemies. The same is true for things like boomer shooters, all you need is the most basic braindead AI to get the job done. So i have a very biased opinion about why i don't think they're attempting slightly more complex things. It's usually because they still cannot achieve AA levels of design.I'm playing Hitman Codename 47 right now and even i know that not a single indie developer is capable of designing this. In the rare non existent scenario that someone who might have an idea of what to do they'll just ask for crowdsourcing funds anyway and it will take them an an inordinate amount of time to develop. But I've seen no such attempts so the indie scene are practically making amateur games in my eyes.There are some projects that might have the potential to be impressive like Core Decay but those are too few and far between. As far as i know that games ambitions are too high. I should say I'm unimpressed with a majority of them and i don't think anyone who could design something good will ever go anywhere.
>>736119860Shit someone smart still posts here
>>736119874What's this? Indie games for ants?
>>736128019First laugh i've gotten here in a while
>>736131912My bad, I'll give you the bigger one.
>>736132452>We are ripping off the rip-offs of Hyper Light Drifter, Palworld, Fields of Mistria
>>736119513Why do creatively bankrupt people always just mash different things together like it is some groundbreaking concept? It feels like a crude imitation of how smart people think. I'm personally making a game and sort of taking cues from vampire survivors type gameplay because I know that is trendy and good for a first project. But other than a few similar gameplay loops, I'm pretty much completely making it up as I go using stuff like universal themes to build something that feels compelling. Are these people incapable of coming up with something without directly having a reference to copy?
>>736119693it's the "putting the entire plot summary in your light novel title" of indie games
I hate friends
>>736119513isn't that just an elevator pitch
>>736132452This almost reads like discord login token stealing "games"
>>736132452Why did top left list 2 anime? Indies need to cannibalize anyone who can't get the template right.
>>736134361Anime inspiration would honestly work out a lot more than videogame inspiration as you are bringing something new to the table. But given most of these people, it is probably just a vague label applied because they liked something.
>>736131412wtf I need to play this
>>736126592I really like your post, anon. It's very difficult to imagine 70 iq people existing -- you must "function" on a very different level cognitively than me -- but sometimes people like you just pop up. It's even funnier when they try to act smart and sharp. It's AI, right?Literally anyone with a healthy brain would have taken a glance at that image and understood that it's indie devs replying to the same Tweet and using that same format as some sort of joke/meme/viral marketing tactic. Only an idiot could have gone "same? It be out of control bot!"
>>736119860Nice disingenuous comparison of literally free games with 20 dollar price tags
>>736119513When 60 hour work weeks became the norm.
>>736119513When did describing wine become a matter of invoking more delicious foods and sometimes even other wines?
>>736119513It's like a food analogy: People don't like it because it's overused but they're still very effective at getting the point across.
>>736135362There are layers to it. The next one after the trendy ironic marketing is that the irony is lost on the devs themselves, because this particular joke happens to perfectly expose what their game amounts to (very little for the rare discerning consumer)
None of the good indies do this shit.
>>736119513
>>736130834and why should your unfinished game exist?
>>736127681I swear people are slowly starting to act more and more like brainless AI bots
>>736131412NINTENDO HIRE THIS MAN
They wouldn't do it if gamers didn't eat it up.
>>736126592Nah. It's people trying to game the twitter algorithm, and get additional hits on their tweets from people searching similar topics.
what is the game though
>>736140073Mr. Sleepy Manhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RmMhWiXdV8
>>736119513I'm not sure when it started exactly, but I hate it. Let the genre tags tell that story. Tell me about YOUR game.
>>736119513like 2004
