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Fuck jannies
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I love Star Ocean.
Play Blue Sphere.
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star ocean is just poor mans sci-fi tales but worse
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I typed out a whole fucking reply, jannies are cunts
To the guy who couldn't play meracle, long and short of it; every press of the button does 2 attacks, one swipe with each claw. If you hit the button twice, she is locked into 4 swings. This is why she feels bad if you don't test and don't read this bit of info
But also basic attacks stop being used before this point. Star ocean is about spamming special move chains as soon as you get enough mp and/or enough in the mp recovery after battle skill - or in the case of so4 enough purples on your battle board I think. Meracle should not be basic attacking. Her moves are all a combination of launchers and multi hit long animation attacks intended to be chained together. Or, alternatively, intended to be used after blindsiding and freezing the boss so you can do longer animations raw, like wind up punch
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>>736120214
Tales combat is restrictive combos, Star Ocean is a spamfest. They scratch different itches. My monkey brain prefers Star Ocean.
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I wish there was a way to murder powertripping tranny jannies over the internet.
We had a good thread going and now it's probably gonna die with a few replies.
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Are any of the Star Ocean games post-Second Story good?
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>>736119981
Honestly would like to play SO5 if only because i find the idea of an Action RPG with 7 party members at the same time, sounds chaotic enough to be fun at the very least.
Also jannies are niggers for literally deleting two fine threads, wtf.
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>>736119981
I 100%'d this game and it was fucking trash hated every second of it
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>>736120214
It's fine because it makes up for mediocre storytelling with hot anime babes and good soundtrack.
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SCATTER BEAM SCATTER BEAM. MAGNETIC FIELD. ENERGY BURST
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>>736120882
>Are any of the Star Ocean games post-Second Story good?
No. Star Ocean 3 effectively killed the franchise 23 years ago.
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>>736120882
I feel each entry in the series is different enough that you have to form your own opinion. I've seen just about every order imaginable on series preference (yes, even 5 is a favorite for some) and aside from Second Story/First Departure there isn't enough correlation to say "if you like x you'll also like y"
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>>736119981
Maria is still my favorite girl of all time.
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>>736120882
Star Ocean 3 is great, and fuck reductive haters like >>736121186.
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why talking about Star Ocean 5 suddenly today? are we getting a PC port finally?
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>>736122347
Man, I kinda just assumed it got a PC version already. It must have flopped that hard huh?
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>>736122347
I think somebody just wanted to post Fiore.
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>>736122560
yeah
it's a shame.
I'd like to play it but I don't want to give Sony as much as a fucking dime.
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>>736122347
Its 10th anniversary is today man today's been dragging on...
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>>736122593
understandable, I want to play her game and I've been hoping for a PC port for a long time.
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>green lipstick
Disfuckingusting.
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>>736120214
>star ocean is just poor mans sci-fi tales but worse
Thats funny because I've always thought of the Tales series as a poor man's Star Ocean with no identity.
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>>736122601
Does it still not emulate well?
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>>736122769
I don't know, I haven't bothered with emulating anything past 6th gen because most things do eventually get PC ports if I want them.
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>>736122724
she can turn my whole cock green, I wouldn't complain
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>>736119981
I only played 1-3 to the end.
I tried 4-6 and they all disappointed me.

Potty I really want them to be good
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>>736122769
PS4 emulation is still in its infancy, and SO5 was only released on PS3 in japan.
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>>736122769
pcsx3 does run it but you still crash often. SO1 to 4 is where its at anyways.
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>>736123185
English can still be enabled on the PS3 version with some file edits, they didn't remove anything.
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>>736122347
It’s because the Phantasy Star Online thread had over 350 replies. PSO and Star Ocean were made by the same people.
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>>736123649
shame I was hoping.
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>>736123649
No they weren't. tri-Ace made Phantasy Star Nova.
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>>736123649
The only Phantasy Star Tri-Ace had any hand in was Nova. They aren't Sega.
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>>736120882
Yes but 2fags like you will never admit it. 2 had mediocre plot, characters and quite frankly, gameplay that has since been surpassed by the rest on the franchise. The only thing it has that you fags will harp about is it's systems, which, being real, do stand out. But as whole packages, even 4 and 6 have it beat.
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>>736123929
Quite frankly, the only interesting thing about those "genre defining" systems is the "hurray, I can get Le Ultima weapon 20% into le game and make the rest of the game even more of a snoozefest".
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>>736121186
Mate there's canon material spelling that it was a different world/universe and not a game
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Raymond is the most based main character btw, even if he's a jew...

FUCK THE FEDS
FUCK THE KENNY
FUCK THE UP3
AND FUCK YOUR ROBOMOMMYWIFE
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>>736124328
She's objectively the only correct option because other than the autistic nepo baby Space Fed, all the others are native Third Worlders.

Fuck your robomommywife.
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>>736123929
2 also has the best visuals and sound (ps1 version not trannymake) and the best and largest cast of playable characters, and the best post game dungeon which leads to it having the most replay value. but I also think 3 and 4 have wayyy better combat and are both great games. 3 also has the best story in the series
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>>736124821
>3 also has the best story in the series
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Im really torn between playing so1 on snes or remake. on one hand the original looks 100x better and more soulful.. BUT you are restricted to the protagonist as the only playable character in combat which is mega gay. any thoughts?
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>>736123692
>>736123736
>>736123858
Okay, next you’re going to tell me that Muv-Luv’s cinematics weren’t made by the same people who made Virtual-On: Marz
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>>736124896
and which one is better? I like the twist and the story kept me engaged the whole time which I cant say about the others. deal with it
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>>736124927
Remake is better but way too short and feels like half a game
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I dont understand why the last thread got deleted when theres a million blatantly off topic and coombait threads on the catalog 24/7. we were actually discussing videogames
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>>736124896
It absolutely does tho? Blame Edge and Lymle for fucking their game's potential
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buy a ps5 just to play so6 or hold out for a steam machine?
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>>736119981
It truly was the beginning of the end, wasn't it?
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>>736124941
oh I don't know anything about that I don't know why you quoted me, I was just hoping for a PC port. Star Ocean isn't a main series for me but I find it fun
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>>736125124
they could solve a lot just by making the characters canon 18+
Like that's literally all the western media can criticize (and why the fuck do Japanese developers care so much about Kotaku running hit pieces on them? They don't have political power)
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>>736125103
>ps5
>The base PS5 (disc) rises to $649.99, Digital Edition to $599.99, and PS5 Pro to $899.99 in the U.S.

Buy a series s
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daily reminder 4 would be the best game easily if edge and lymle didnt exist. they were so close
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>>736125251
>Like that's literally all the western media can criticize
Hah! As if, they complaint too if they characters are attractive, have big boobs or act like, well, girls
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>>736125270
I didnt realize it was on xbox too. Can anyone attest if it runs well enough on a series S? Im not picky a stable 30 is good enough for me
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>>736125281
I enjoyed 4 gameplay wise but no, the story was really weak for that one, Lymle definitely didn't help, though.
kay?]/spoiler]

but Arumat, Bacchus and Myuria were good characters, great designs.
I didn't mind Edge too badly he was kinda stereotypical and had a stupid name, and he lost his shit for part of the story, but otherwise he wasn't the worst.
Faize and Lymle take that crown
Meracle, Sarah, and Reimi were tolerable.
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>>736125489
ah shit I typoed that bad.
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>>736120214
The only one I'd compare SO to is the first Tales game and that's mainly because they share a decent amount of mechanics. Tales games are more about fine control over a single character while SO has a larger emphasis on controlling your whole party.
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reimi is best girl. not in the game, but the whole series.
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guys will play a game like this and say it's fun
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>>736126028
Eeehhhh, she's quite up there with Elena, Maria and Nel
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why is she like this
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>>736126296
Girls like to be appreciated.
I like appreciating them.
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>>736126028
WRONG. To be fair this series is absolutely packed with semen demons.
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>>736126296
Literally her culture. The elite symbologists of her nation show off by putting symbols in risque locations and then never cover up. It's a borderline pornographic practice that captures the vanity of powerful magicians.
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I’m trying to figure out if this game is at all worth intoing and all I read is how shit and one-shotted this franchise is.
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>>736126404
SO5? No, it's the shittiest Star Ocean game by a mile.
3, 4 and 6 are the best.
2 is ok I guess.
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>>736126404
Just play the even numbered ones. They're all on Steam.
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>>736126404
Well, it isn't beyond character design and the endless fight about SO3's twist.

The space travel and different worlds? Kingdom Hearts did it better because outside of Last Hope (iirc anyways) most of the time you're stuck in a fantasy medieval world
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>>736126404
like most tri-Ace games it's got a lot of ups and downs, they're quite an avant-garde company who love to take risks, and those risks don't always pay off (as seen with SO5 and Infinite Undiscovery)
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>>736126028
Used goods is better for that game.
But for me it's Chisato
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>>736126645
I want a new Last Hope planet-hopper where we don't fight over that one character's English dub. That's all I ask.
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>>736126598
2 is best
4 is okay but had weak writing and a few characters that fucked it up.
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>>736126745
>"Weak writing"
>Implying 2's writing is any better than 4's.
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Anamnesis is probably the most fun I've had with Star Ocean in a long time. They should just make a single player game with that exact system and gameplay
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>>736126862
Yeah it was kinda neat. Could have been sold as a singleplayer mobile game and I would have been happy, but they just had to take the gacha pill.
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The gacha had some neat lore and banger designs, that A2? Delicious
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>>736126730
Another game like 4 jumping around the universe would be fun.
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>>736126745
Bro 2's plot was anemic and nonexistent and every character after joining your party got flattened to "making casual Marvel quips about plot events" because the system couldn't keep up with the freedom of party selection.
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Honkai Star Rail is the new age Star Ocean. Time to move on gramps.
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>>736126783
yeah, it's better. The narrative at least makes sense. The only kinda weak aspects of it are just that Claude being on Expel is coincidental
but otherwise superhumans created to maintain order in an empire being reprogrammed to destroy everything and then exiled, they find their way back by causing chaos on a planet in effort to steer it back to where they were exiled from to destroy the universe.. as cliched as that is....
makes more sense than just some random ass force that influences evolution in the entire universe taking your weakest party member and making him into the big bad.
"the missing procedure" never made sense unless you view it as malware in the Eternal Sphere MMO
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>>736126730
the planet hopping and combat were definitely 4's strongest points.
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>>736126862
I miss Anamnesis.. it was fun to do real time co-op boss battles, I don't know how they did it on a mobage.
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>>736127228
>The narrative at least makes sense
The narrative makes perfect sense in 4.
>"the missing procedure" never made sense
Every single star ocean plot is about common conspiracy theories. 4 is one you should be very familiar with by now.
>highly advanced space Lizard people.
>Archons feeding on energy.
>The demi-urge/missing procedure.
>Manipulated evolution.
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>>736119981
2 > 6 > 1 > 4 > 3 > 5
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>>736124821
the remake is fine you niggerfaggot
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>>736119981
Love 1 and 2 but I fucking despise missables in longish games
Fucking HATE missing party members, endings, events
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>>736127331
>it's the best because you think it's about Jews and gnostic bullshit
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>>736126164
yes? marielle is incredibly fun to play, a screenshot of a big attack of hers going off at the same time other people are doing their own shit doesn't change that anon
i spent the majority of my time with so6 playing elena and marielle
star ocean games have always been a clusterfuck visually
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>>736125251
>muh 17 year old loli
actual retard in this thread
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>>736127579
look
I don't care
but apparently journos and politicians do, and it causes a shitfest, so just changing the arbitrary number to 18 takes away their talking points.
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>>736127228
It makes a lot of sense if you care about the terminology they use, such as Satanael/Satanail.
In conjunction with 3, it's pretty obvious the Missing Procedure is most likely someone from 3's 4D space, just like how a lot of characters in 4D space have biblical names and 2's antagonists are named after angels.
Satanael was the "first born son of god" who created his own, separate earth and a new heaven to rule it, mirroring 4D space creating the Star Ocean/Eternal Sphere universe.
>>736127510
Jews didn't invent gnosticism, and a ton of JRPGs draw on religious inspiration, not just gnosticism.
Acting ignorant doesn't make you look smart.
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>>736126745
4 has the best main protagonist, yes, im. back, fuck you
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>>736127618
they don't fuking care either.
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I'm going through SO5 right now and it definitely feels low budget, but I'm having fun with it just building up the roles and destroying encounters with the right setup. Wish there was bunny travel though. Trekking back and force through maps reminds me of Suikoden 3.
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>>736127704
but they do.
they always throw a shitfest if you show the panties or any sexualization whatsoever of an under 18 year old character.
That's why games get censored, because they have an issue with Japan using 16 year old characters and sexualizing them, because in Japan they figure, it's legal age, no problem.

So I say in the west just change the 6 to an 8 and be fucking done with it. It's an arbitrary number.
Do they have to be under 18 or you just.. can't accept that character? Is that the hill you want to die on?
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>>736127102
t.
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>>736127228
>The 10 wisemen broke out even though it was impossible to do so and they have no idea what allowed them to get out of their prison
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>>736128404
Oh thank god, I thought people missed my bait.
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Still mad there's hardly any good lewds for the SO6 girls!
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>>736128441
Also naming them after angels makes no sense without 3.
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When are they gonna move the fucking timeline?
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>>736126395
We may not like it, but we must respect other cultures.
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>>736128945
Never. 3 is the end. It's literally called "till the end of time."
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>>736126598
>2 is ok
trannymake of 2 is ok. ps1 2 is best in the series easy.
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>>736128945
SO3 was so far ahead in time of SO2 that there are 4~ centuries of technological advancement we've effectively skipped over, only really glimpsing any of it with SO5 and getting some actual meat with SO6. I'd rather another game or two in between 6 and 3 before it goes "Beyond The End of Time."
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>>736127352
1 above 3 and 4 is mental illness for sure.
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>>736127374
its "fine", sure, but still a downgrade.
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>>736128441
its ok to not know things sometimes. the ten wise men were cool villians, that's good enough. better than the shit villians in 3 and 4
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>>736119981
That game was fun if you constantly change characters and micro your entire party. Unfortunately 99% of /v/ is incapable of doing that
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>>736126395
What happens when they get old and wrinkly?
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>>736120214
Better than generic bland Tales animu sloppa
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>>736119981
F-Flayn? you're dad's gonna freak!
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>>736125124
>FUUUUUUUUCK GAIJIN in hiragana
Lmao
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>>736119981
Wow those faces are awful
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>>736119981
Dead franchise
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>>736126862
I miss Anamanesis so badly. Was genuinely the most fun I ever had in a gacha and even suboptimal f2p builds had no problems contributing in boss fights.
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i wonder what tri-ace's been up to for the last 4 years
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>>736137274
VP3, trust
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>>736137387
I trust it will be shit
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>>736139919
Such a waste, their females are on the attractive side in modern SE
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I miss Anamnesis.
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I also..
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>>736119981
>phantasy star for turbo bums
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>>736129857
>10 wisemen were cool
The only ones people remember are Spicule.wav and the final boss. Most of the others are complete jobbers.
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>>736120882
I played 3 and thought it was okay enough to climb the tower. Second Story is the best though.
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>>736126645
>Well, it isn't beyond character design and the endless fight about SO3's twist.
I still think it's funny that SO3's twist was hated by pretty much everyone, I don't think anyone actually LIKED it maybe they just didn't care that much either way... then E33 comes along and the narrative is that you're a brown retard who didn't play the game if you didn't like Act III. I can't tell if it's all paid shill marketing tactics or if gaming has fallen that far in 2026 or if E33 was just the very first video game that actually has a story that the zoomers played.
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>>736145693
I liked SO3's narrative and I'll defend it unto death. People misunderstand it often thinking it's meta. It isn't. They're not in a video game called Star Ocean 3. They're constructs of callous and bored gods, living within a manufactured spacetime, not unreal in the least, only artificial.
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>>736144792
after my first gacha experience I swore off all mobileslop for good but man I really shouldve tried this one out.
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>>736145387
IV is the only good phantasy star and its turbo mogged by so2
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>>736145693
I have loved and defended the twist since release. I still dont understand why it gets so many retards angry.
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>>736145693
>if E33 was just the very first video game that actually has a story that the zoomers played.
ding ding ding
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>>736128630
Seriously what the fuck?
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>>736146310
It could've been handled better. Luther's motive should've been he was callously quelling a possible future AI revolt from his perspective instead of this weird megalomaniac.
They wanted to do the standard demiurge thing but with a technological angle and didn't quite hit the notes right.
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I cant remember a single thing about 4's story besides the twink being the bad guy
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>>736148129
I remember that and the alternate timeline earth part.
The rest is kind of a blur.
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>>736146918
it's so fucked, she's designed to look amazing, but then she plays like ABSOLUTE DOGSHIT
like, the ai can't use her. her entire gimmick is that she's a hybrid melee caster with an ability to hold a button to charge up spells whilst attacking at the cost of hp, but the ai WILL NEVER DO IT
and it's fucking awful to try and do yourself whilst having to micromanage 3 dickheads who keep getting themselves killed by standing in aoes (90% of my gabriel fight was reviving these fucking clowns every time they saw him 50 miles away at the edge of the arena about to do his attack that specifically covers one giant line and they just stand and wait to tank it)

>>736148129
evil lizards being assholes
evil human suits and human spaceships yoinked by the same thing that made the lizards evil being evil assholes to you too
crowe being cool as fuck at all times yet never actually around at the same time to carry your ass he's always there before you
meracle trying to eat sarah 50 times
crowe time travelling and being the father of roddick from so1
bacchus being too autistic to even understand his devoted wife
FUCKING PURGATORIUM BEING 8 YEARS LONG (on your first playthrough)
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>>736119981
>oh cool a sci-fi jrpg let's check it o-
>medieval shit
every fucking time



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