>ciritcally acclaimed and beloved by fans at release>considered the best shooter to come out in 2004, ahead of other classics like Half-Life 2, Halo 2, Far Cry, F.E.A.R, Metroid Prime 2>fast forward 20 years>it's considered boring, not a "true" Doom gameWhat happened?
>>736151925>what happened?Gamers are mentally retarded
>>ciritcally acclaimed and beloved by fans at release>>considered the best shooter to come out in 2004No.
>>736152034It literally was though, and most people at the time played it on Xbox or PCs which were nowhere near capable of running the game at full fidelity
>>736151925>>ciritcally acclaimed and beloved by fans at release>>considered the best shooter to come out in 2004, ahead of other classics like Half-Life 2, Halo 2, Far Cry, F.E.A.R, Metroid Prime 2Why would you go on the internet and tell lies?
John Romero didn't like it.
>Gay Low 2 >half-gay 2: DRM trojan edition>classicsROFLCOPTER
Original release is genuinely a fantastic shooter and decent survival horror game. BFG Edition fucks everything up.
>>736151925>>considered the best shooter to come out in 2004, ahead of other classics like Half-Life 2, Halo 2, Far Cry, F.E.A.R, Metroid Prime 2Even at the time, DooM3 was considered to be mostly eye-candy by fans. It still looks good to this day, but with time the game has actually gotten better with mods and addons made by the community. People were still preferring the original doom games back then for the gameplay. Quake 4 was received a little better but not by much.
>>736151925None of that happened, what is this revisionism?
>>736152245>>>ciritcally acclaimedHe's not wrong about that.>>>and beloved by fans at releaseDoom fans were disappointed with the greater emphasis on horror but the idea everyone hated it as a result is a modern fiction.
>>736151925I enjoy using the shotgun in DooM 3>no rangethen treat it as a berserker punch>it can't reliably one shotThen pepper them with the pistol or smg a little before closing in for the kill like the doom eternal zoomie you are
>>736153753>then treat it like [not a shotgun]>then use a different better weaponok cool
>>736153753>>it can't reliably one shotIt would be pretty ridiculous to single out Doom 3 for that. The shotgun is notoriously extreme RNG in the first two games.
>Making shitposts, Marine?>Your reddit-humor is futile...>You will be b&. And your thread will be saged!
This is my favorite horror game and you can't say shit about it
>>736151925It's because of Bethesda's Nu-Doom marketing. They marketed Nu-Doom as a "return to the source", which implied Doom 3 was not being close to it. This changed people's perspective. The game was and is still good tho. Really spooky.
I love when zoom zooms who weren't even an itch in daddy's ballsack in the 2000s try to authoritatively explain things to me that I was there for and do so while being confidently and completely wrong and making up completely bullshit.How eagerly I would love to strangle them and watch what passes for life slowly extinguish from their glassy, soulless eyes.
Cuz' you know, the one thing the Doom franchise is famous for since the beginning is being a spooky survival horror.
>>736154182I dont know if you're aware but a lot of people actually found Doom 1 to be scary at the time, especially with the music off.
>>736153890>treat it like [not a shotgun]I did not cry over Quake's shotgun >then use a different better weaponDooM 3 shotgun is still good.
>>736154247>a lot of people actually found Doom 1 to be scary at the timeIt always surprises me but there are actually people like this out there.I remember meeting a guy in his 20s once back in the day who loved FPS. We started talking about them and I brought up how FEAR was one of my favorite FPS and he admitted he tried playing it but it was too scary for him so he stopped. That just blew my mind. I would have never thought of FEAR as being a game too scary to play for anyone, much less a grown ass adult male.
>>736154303Doom 3's shotgun is a gambling machine where every pull of the trigger will either one shot an enemy or do nothing.
uhh I mean Doom 3 has its fair share of cult following and fans, even today, I think it's a great game, but yeah, horror FPS fell out of fashion, its that simple
>>considered the best shooter to come out in 2004, ahead of other classics like Half-Life 2, Halo 2, Far Cry, F.E.A.R, Metroid Prime 2uuhhh no?doom 3 got ripped on hard and people generally hated it.there was even a meme here where you'd post a 100% black image and say it was doom 3 screenshot
>>736154397FEAR was too scary for me as a kidthe first segment where you're creeping around and that slut is whispering in ur ear or appearing to run around you, its spooky as fuckbut FEAR gets way less spooky past the first 3 levels lol
>>736154792What are you, high? Even a look back in the wayback machine shows that it received positive reviews from reviewers and customers as well. Up to that point it was the best selling Doom game released. The major constant it was praised for was its technical and graphical improvements and atmosphere, but a common sentiment was that it was fairly easy. Which isn't saying much, official Doom wads have never been that hard, players made the hard slaughter maps.
>>736151925The novelty of endless monster closets wore off. It's neat the first time you play it, but the extremely closed in spaces makes the game not fun to replay.
>>736151925>considered the best shooter to come out in 2004, ahead of other classics like Half-Life 2, Halo 2, Far Cry, F.E.A.R, Metroid Prime 2unlike you, I was alive in 2004 so I remember that journos didnt like doom 3. hell, I still remember when local magazine named far cry the best shooter of that year with a text like "despite getting both doom and half-life sequel, this year belongs to far cry"
>>736151925Kill yourself, you faggot. Don't just make shit up if you weren't there.
Most of the hate came later from Brutal DOOM fans and sourceport users
>>736157054There where? On mars?
>>736157054If you weren't around when Doom 3 released.The game got tons of complaints, particularly for its slow gameplay, being ridiculously dark and not being able to use the flashlight with weapons. It was mostly praised for its technical side, the graphics and shadows in particular (and thus its atmosphere), but even in those areas it lost a lot of glory to Far Cry, which came out of nowhere several months before Doom 3 released, and became the benchmark for graphics and performance.Overall the reception for Doom 3 was mixed. It's reputation only increased years after it was released.
This >>736158162 was meant for >>736157624
>>736158162Half-life 2 was unplayable at release when doom3 run solid, valve got lucy woth steam and weekly patches
I love revisionism threads where the worst game in the series is actually the best game
ITT seinfeld was never funny and doom 3 was hated on release.
Absolutely hated by reviewers.https://www.gamespot.com/reviews/doom-3-review/1900-6104145/
reading old game reviews im amazed at how high the standards were back then lol
>>736152665John Romero is a hack fraud
>>736151925>What happened?ADHD ridden zoomers is the answer
>>736160324Its why games like doom 3 and gta 3 were shat on for being clunky, repetitive messes of games.
As doom 3 is not for the cowardly or faint of heart /v/ hates it because /v/ is fully limp wristed wimps.
>>736151925why do gen z and alpha have nostalgia for games and gaming culture they never experienced at launch?
>>736160804Why do millennials get nostalgic over the 80's when 90% of them were 3 when the decade ended?
Oh boy, it's the new Fallout 3, GTA4, Oblivion, Star Wars Prequel Trilogy!
>>736152154this looks so much cooler the 1920 x 1080 HD HiRez C0ckzmod Shadow++ Dew3m version of the game on wegame.ru
>>736160804idk i just doi grew up playing mw2 2009 thobest fps ever made
>>736160804Guess they just watched a streamer making some AI scripted hot takes about Doom 3.
>>736151925Doom 3 is a dogshit DOOM game, but an excellent System Shock clone with a satanic storyline. I was a bit grumpy about Doom 3, not being what I was hoping for, but I very much ended up loving what I played. Great game.
>>736161191>excellent System Shock clone>every map is one straight linear lineDo you faggots even play the games you reference
>>736151925It was immediately overshadowed by the other games you posted.
>>736151925April fools post I guess? This game was heavily criticized and rightfully so. The constant switching between gun and flashlight was annoying as fuck for starters.
>can't see shit>no duct tape on mars>no slaughter maps>slow movement and aimingIt isn't a doom game.
>>736151925You're right by saying it's been unfairly criticized by modern audiences, but HL2, Halo 2, and Metroid Prime 2 had better contemporary ratings than Doom 3...Also it is genuinely worse than all 3 of those games, but I still like it.
>>736151925nothing happened, it's kino and nothing will change that
>>736151925>considered the best shooter to come out in 2004, ahead of other classics like Half-Life 2, Halo 2, Far Cry, F.E.A.R, Metroid Prime 2i don't think i know anyone irl that has played doom 3
>>736151925>>it's considered boring, not a "true" Doom gameI remember when it came out, and it was so scary I couldn't finish it.
>>736151925>considered the best shooter to come out in 2004, ahead of other classics like Half-Life 2, Halo 2, Far Cry, F.E.A.R, Metroid Prime 2Halo 2 has significantly higher scores on Metacritic than Doom 3, both from critics and users
>>736160893Because of this game
>>736160649 based and marscore pilled Doom 3 filtered an entire generation that needed a minimap, quest marker, and a Marvel quip every 30 seconds to stay engaged. You turn the lights off, put headphones on, and suddenly it's “boring” because you can’t bunnyhop at mach 3 while circle-strafing 200 imps. It’s survival horror wearing a DOOM skin and that’s why it rules. The atmosphere, the PDA logs, the slow burn into hell - it actually tried something instead of being WAD #5000 but in 3D. /v/ just hates it because it makes them feel small and scared in the dark.
>>736165097lil zoomie forgot this game came out in 2004 lol
>>736151925It's the only actually scary one, but Doom audience wanted fast paced shooter not horror.
doom 3 isn't survival horror you fucking tourist fags that last played it in 2005, its 100% an action game u just kill everything no shortage of resourcesits a standard FPS with jumpscares once in a while for the first third
>>736164357>oh man the 80's were so good just like i 'member>I know this because of a fictional version of the time period>no I wasn't alive then don't be stupidEven when the game came out most of the people reviewing it going "muh 80's" were in their late 20's and were absolutely not enough of an adult at the time to have lived the period.See also: vaporwave being an authentic 80's sound.
HOW MANY TIMES DOES THIS NEED SAYINGDOOMWASNOTMEANTTOBEHORRORDoom 1 and 2 weren't and these " doom is spooky" people are revisionist fools who weren't aware doom 1 and 2 even existed.
>>736165295don't care, doom was spooky as a kid and then it was spooky again as a teenager :)
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>>736165641it's my own experience, are you a mentally deficient brown or something
>>736165178I was a kid when Vice City came out. It was a popular game among people I knew. I think before that game we had probably never thought about the 80s, but the game made the 80s seem very cool. The soundtrack of course introduced us to big 80s songs we had never heard before.
>>736160649i'm a huge pussy who rarely plays horror games, doom 3 wasn't scary at all sorry
>>736165163It's action horror. Which is exactly what Doom 1 was
>>736166841doom 1 was never meant to be "horror" in any way except a few levelslook at the fuckin OSTgod these fuckin revisionists
>>736167452You walk around levels with lights flickering shooting at demons. Tell me how that's any different than doom 3?
ITT the doom bible and masters of doom are WRONG and I know better.
>zoomers are scared of doomGo figure.
>>736168037play the games and find out
>>736168524I did. And then i played Doom ps1 and 64 which all did the same thing.
>>736168637doom 64 is meant to be spookierdoom 1 is literally an action game in every way
>>736151925It's Half Life 1 but worse in everyway aside from the visuals. A horrible corridor shooter where none of the enemies are fun to fun and most of the guns feel awful Once the wow factor of the graphics wore off the game was left with nothing to stand on
>>736168694And Doom 3 is also an action game in every way. Now you're getting it. Monsters spawning behind you and lights flickering doesn't change that because that's exactly what doom always did.
>>7361689093 was clearly intended to be more horror with the darkness everywhere and dark ambient soundtrackversus literal metal and fast levels
>>736169042>versus literal metal and fast levelsbased speedrunner
>>736151925It's really repetitive and dull. The weapons lack any punch and the enemies don't react much to them. The shotgun is annoyingly inconsistent. Visuals and atmosphere off the charts though. It's a conflicting game.Did this have multiplayer at all? If it does I've never heard about it. I've only played it on the re-release.
i remember my dads pc could barely run the game so he upgraded
>>736151925>considered the best shooter to come out in 2004, ahead of other classics like Half-Life 2, Halo 2, Far Cry, F.E.A.R, Metroid Prime 2lol no it wasn'tbetter than far cry and metroid prime 2 MAYBE
>worse than brutal doom (which had already defined itself as the doom formula perfected)>worse than when 2016 releasedIt is a bad game for nobody.
Most of the people couldn't run it on their PC at release
>>736169042That's just good graphics and atmosphere. Doom ps1 is dark with a dark ambient soundtrack and plays exactly the same. Entire doom 1 levels take place in the dark with flickering lights and monsters popping out at you.
>>736169446doom ps1 isn't the same game its by entirely different devs than real doom 1 you stupid nigger
I was bored to tears near the end of doom 3 But at least it didn't make me want to blow my brains out like farcry did
>>736169519It has the exact same levels, weapons, and enemies. Holy shit you're coping.
>>736151925It's a tech demo and the journo magazine I was reading back then called it that too.
>>736169617its a re-imagining of the game in the vision of the new devs
>>736169820And no one has ever called doom ps1 a survival horror game just because it's dark and spooky. Wow, now you're getting it!
>>736160324We can take any game from back then that was considered a 5 to a 7 and it would be loved today. Indie darling to GOTY, that's how bad games are now.
>>736169931i never said doom 3 was survival horror i was ltierally saying the opposite its still action but it was very much intended to be spooky, doom 1 wasn't intended to be any kinda horror at all
>>736170127But Doom 1 was intended to be spooky. That's where you're wrong.
>>736170232no, not at allps1 doom 1 isnt doom 1 not the same devsdumbass
It's a cool atmospheric tech demo for idtech 4 or whatever version they used. But it's a terrible shooter, the guns feel like you're shooting plastic toys.
>>736170315Ok, so all the og doom 1 levels that are in the dark, have slow tense music, hell imagery with corpses sprung about on the walls, blood pooling over, and song tracks literally titled "dark halls" means nothing to you?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKHOiTE_2sM&list=PLD741146AA133C8E3&index=4
>>736166785>game looks better than a heap of modern slopI need to replay Doom 3, Quake 4, and Prey.
>>736151925>>considered the best shooter to come out in 2004, ahead of other classics like Half-Life 2, Halo 2, Far Cry, F.E.A.R, Metroid Prime 2I've played and read reviews of this game back in 2004, and I've never seen any traditional critics who rated it above it's contemporaries, albeit it was rated highly. You're a liar and a faggot, kill yourself. >>736152154That anon is right, it's a hard No; lying retarded faggot. Your favorite e-tuber's reviews aren't historical archives.
>>736161191>It's a good game, just not a good [x] game! Really
>>736170450SOME LEVELS are intended to be spooky and atmosphericmost of em no
>>736160804> I’m willing to be everyone (in 2004) thinks doom 3 was better than quake 3now there’s a contrarian take that didn’t age well.
To be fair zoomers are scared shitless of comfy pools so Doom must be a real nightmare.
>>736170450Bro has never seen a metal album cover.
>>736170743So you've conceded. You're making progress.
>>736170964And Doom 3 opens with a metal theme. You're starting to piece it all together!
>>736151925>Critically acclaimedYes>ahead of other classics like Half-Life 2, Halo 2, Far Cry, F.E.A.R, Metroid Prime 2Its definitely better than Halo 2 and probably Far cry 1, but FEAR and HL2 are better fps experiences than Doom 3. Havent played MP2 to compareI was there when Doom3 was released. I still have the physical disc somewhere in my attic. People went nuts when they saw its graphics, and the majority loved when it was released. Only poorfags who couldnt run this game properly talked shit about it, and some autistic Doomers in old doom forums hated it because it is survival horror instead of action horror game.Personally I still love Doom3. Its atmosphere is amazing even in 2026, and the lighting is good enough to cover the age of its graphics. I still consider Doom3 to be a Doom spin off though. A good game, but a Doom spin off nonetheless
>>736170968no, stop gaslightingdoom 3 is intended to be a horror gamedoom 1 isn't its that simplejust becuase doom 3 gets less and less horror the more overpowered you get doesn't invalidate that>>736171124not me
>>736171315>noo staHHp. ughhh.... badda boobooo!Ok, you have nothing now.
>>736169446>>736169617>>736169820>moving the goalposts
>beloved by fans at releaseI highly doubt that.>considered the best shooter to come out in 2004Even Far Cry 1 mogged it.
>>736171612far cry 1 btw
>>736171443ur tryinna gaslight but whatever, heres a webm from my last doom 3 playthrough
>>736171689Don't play like a retard.
>>736171767shotgun is inconsistent asf thou gotta go melee range if u want results like vid
>>736171882otherwise
Doom 3 was fine and a good game but it was part of the 1 2 3 punch of Doom 3, Quake 4, and Unreal Tournament 3 that totally fucked arena FPS up because it was NOT what people wanted or expected from a Doom game.
