BWAHAHAHAHA OH NONONONONONO
>>736158362to make nintendo battle what?
>April fools
>>736158362old news
golly maybe when a game trailer is released showing not-pokemon being caught in balls, you shouldn't wait 2.5 years and only act when said game releases and sells gangbusters, looking way better compared to your last couple early>gen-6 looking piles of shit
>>736158509I need to get off the Internet for the day, I'm way too gullible.
>>736158509>>736158552holy tendies cope >>736158808fucking retard, this isn't an april fools joke
>>736158852I thought it already was revoked, it was the other patent that was denied, my mistake
>>736158362This is like trademarking using guns to shoot at enemies in games
>>736158362Tendies just cant fucking win lmao
>>736158852test
>>736158731>always the same copesnoys are truly unoriginal. I imagine you tore your hair out when you saw the trailer of WiWa
>>736158362If this had actually happened Nintendo could successfully sue the USPTO for discrimination and unfair enforcement so yeah be happy you faked it.
>>736158362I'm a nintendofag but I still think they should be shut down on all of their patent troll bullshit, also revoke the nemesis system patent faggots
>>736160256No, no it isn't.
>>736160579Maybe if you're going to pretend to be a nintendofag actually do the research like they do.
fuck nintendo really, its archaic bullshit is holding back the industry
>>736158362>nintendo holds the patent on a gameplay mechanic created by fatlus, copied by enix, then copied by gamefreak/nintendopatents protect creators
>>736160825How is making a patent archaic?
How did they even have that, is this 5he real reason behind the death of turn based Final Fantasy and games in general?Fuck Nintendo and Pokemon worat than Konami ever was
>>736160985The nips are some of the most aggressive copyright enforcers and violators in the world. It's those second hand chink genes
>>736160825This it's not fucking fair that Nintendo made Japan betray Sony.The industry is better off with only Sony
>>736161097good morning sars!
>>736158362>This decision is seen as a strong signal to the industry, serving as a reminder that overly generic gameplay mechanics cannot be protected so easily by patents.Based.
>>736158362https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_guP-Agk7w
>>736158362>based on gameplay mechanic used in other gamesAre journos going to keep pretending they don’t know how patents work?
>>736161580Reae this thread anon. People HERE don't understand how patents work let alone journalists.
>>736161272That would be America. It's why patent trolling can only happen there.
>>736160540It's real, and you can't patent mechanics that have been around since the 19 fucking 80's. You can't patent shooting or jumping either. those are all just things you do in games.
palsloppers getting raped and gaped on their special day
>>736161580It's actually insane how dumb people are
>>736158362As always vidya journos lie (or have no idea what they are talking about, dunno which is worse) and retards on /v/ fall for it>Less than two months later, the head of the United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO), Director John A. Squires, ordered an ex parte reexamination (EPR)>Nintendo let the deadline for a response slip. The examiner therefore started the reexamination process and put out a non-final Office action last week, rejecting all claims of the patent in question>As mentioned above, the rejection is non-final (and even when such rejections are labeled as “final”, the process is far from over, given that there can be, at minimum, an appeal to the Federal Circuit).>rejection in this case means “declaring ripe for revocation”>Nintendo has two months to respond, but that period can be extended if Nintendo asks for it (and Nintendo doesn’t even have to state a reason). >By not looking at real-world games, the USPTO is making this somewhat complicated. For 18 of the 26 patent claims, they have to combine two different prior art references to argue that the claimed inventions are obvious, and for the remaining 8 patent claims they even have to combine three to get there.
>>736158552i LOVE the smell of FEAR
>>736158852>Eric legitimately thinks anyone is taking him seriously >Let alone on April Fools day
>>736158362Why the hell was it accepted if there were older games than pokemon already doing that?
>>736162096>It's realThen they have grounds to sue the USPTO for unfair discrimination since they've revoked a patent for no real reason since it's an original mechanic not present in any other games. >and you can't patent mechanics that have been around since the 19 fucking 80's.True but that's not what this about. We're talking about a mechanic that's only present in their one single game so far. You're mistaking this with the idea of summoning as a concept, an easy mistake to make for the intellectually challenged but not one that people with more than one braincell can make.To make it simple to understand it's how it's done, not what it is like a coin made of bronze vs one made of gold, both are conceptually coins but are made out of different materials, heated at different temperatures etc > You can't patent shooting or jumping either.Yes, you can in fact patent them if they're novel executions of the concept. For example if Nintendo had patented jumping in Mario it wouldn't have stopped jumping in Sonic because they have different functions like Mario only being able to damage enemies by landing on them from a jump while sonic damages them regardless. >those are all just things you do in games.Yes, conceptually, not mechanically. >>736162347>>By not looking at real-world games,They didn't even look at other games? And people wonder why the USPTO is seen as the single most incompetent Patent Office in the world.
>>736162507https://www.ign.com/articles/uspto-rejects-nintendos-controversial-summon-character-and-let-it-fight-pokemon-patent-in-non-final-ruling-as-palworld-legal-battle-rumbles-onhttps://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/us-patent-office-revokes-nintendos-patent-on-summoning-characters-to-make-them-battle/https://gamesfray.com/u-s-patent-examiner-rejects-nintendos-summon-subcharacter-and-let-it-fight-in-1-of-2-modes-patent-as-obvious-non-final-ruling/https://nintendoeverything.com/nintendos-summoning-characters-to-make-them-battle-patent-has-been-rejected-but-not-a-final-ruling/You are SO fucking mad
>>736162650Okay mr patent attorney.
>>736162762>t. lost and got raped
>>736162762>It did not require the USPTO to look at (much less play) a single game to arrive at this conclusionOh the USPTO is absolutely fucked.
>>736162650Summoning monsters to battle enemies has been done before, if that's not what they're patenting then how can they use it in their lawsuit against a game that summons monsters to battle things? Why don't you explain how the patent is different from something like World of Warcraft pets instead of some irrelevant metal analogy, they basically function exactly the same as the patent describes and they're from 2004.
>>736163070>Summoning monsters to battle enemies has been done before>Why don't you explain how the patent is different from something like World of Warcraft pets instead of some irrelevant metal analogy, they basically function exactly the same as the patent describes and they're from 2004. The whole explanation is right here. >>736162650>You're mistaking this with the idea of summoning as a concept, an easy mistake to make for the intellectually challenged but not one that people with more than one braincell can make.>To make it simple to understand it's how it's done, not what it is like a coin made of bronze vs one made of gold, both are conceptually coins but are made out of different materials, heated at different temperatures etcIn other words, unless you can find a game prior that plays EXACTLY THE SAME, not close, not conceptually but EXACTLY THE SAME DOWN TO THE AMOUNT OF BUTTONS USED TO EXECUTE THE ACTION, it's considered new.
>>736163070>instead of some irrelevant metal analogy,His analogy works though, wow doesn't work like a pokemon game at all. Having a player character launch a physics based object to do summon isn't how it works in wow nor can you throw an object at another object to instantly have your summon react specifically to the object it was thrown at.Same thing conceptually, but different function
>tendies copingAww no need to be upset. It’s April fools day, be joyful :)
>>736163437The Palworld devs did the exact same thing in Craftopia years before the patent was made, I don't see how Nintendo has a case.
>>736162650You personally lost this one.
>>736162174Anon...I...
what drives a motherfucker to defend a multibillion corporation with THE most profitable franchise in the world for FREE?
>>736158362>probably only a gazillion of those kind of bridgetroll patents to goCan we have WB nemesis and the snoy knock-off shit next?
>>736164313You are a fool
>>736163826>The Palworld devs did the exact same thing in CraftopiaThey didn't though. Stop thinking about it in terms of what it looks like and start thinking about how it functions because Pokemon's version doesn't have objects that home in on a target
>>736164412Literally no one is defending Nintendo.
>>736162650>>736162347>the fight's not over yet, fellow tendies! NoA can refute and drag this out!For a bunch of raving cultists you retards can be so cute.
>>736164649Neither does Craftopia, you have to aim that shit.
>>736164951Imagine calling people cultists while you're trying to defend corporations just because you hate Nintendo.
>>736165046>No you're trying to defend corporations!Kek and this is why I called you cute. Where did I do that?
Who doesn't enjoy a good David vs Goliat storyImagine cheering for Goliat lmao
>>736165020Craftopia literally has minor homing on thrown objects, why even lie about something we've known for years?
>>736158362Based. Fuck patents.
>>736165159This niggers cheering for a jew lmfao
>>736165140You're literally doing it right now. The two anons you're replying to aren't defending Nintendo, they're explaining patents.You on the other hand are angry that Nintendo is suing over patents due and as such you're currently defending Pocketpair.
>>736165159David and Goliath isn't a story about a man overcoming adversity, it's a story about a man cheating in a test of skill by using a long range projectile weapon because he was a cowardly jew.
>>736162650>You're mistaking this with the idea of summoning as a conceptI'm confused about this as well, anyone have link to what Nintendo originally filed a lawsuit?
>>736165338>No those anons arent defending Nintendo!>They're explaining how Nintendo hasnt lost yet! Nintendo cna still win this patent war that they started in 10 more years! >But you're the one defending corporations! You're currently defending Pocketpair!Never mentioned nintendo or pocketpair even once in my posts lmfao. Your silly tantrums are so adorable
>>736165231I'm not aware of any homing but if that's all it takes to invalidate the patent then you might as well say that Palworld doesn't violate it because similar minute details like the aggro rage being different, the time it takes for the creature to emerge is slightly different or the throwable travels at a different speed. If there is zero room for deviation in a patent dispute then it's barely even possible to violate it.
>>736165737See what I mean, you're seeing it as them caring about whether Nintendo wins or loses purely because it doesn't paint them as down and out. In real it their statements are neutral m
>>736158362April Fools aside, game mechanics should not be allowed to be patented. Nemesis system shit is an example of this.
>>736165863>because similar minute details like the aggro rage being different, the time it takes for the creature to emerge is slightly different or the throwable travels at a different speedThe first two don't pertain to the thrown object and the last is superficial. It's all function anon.
>>736165920>No they're not tendies! You seeing them that way makes you the corporate cultist!Lmfao you're so salty you cant even type straight. Go take a walk before you pop a blood vessel, lolcow
>>736166010>Nemesis system shit is an example of this.Not really, people don't use it because it was patented, they don't use it because it doesn't add anything. Even then we've seen indie games use it before
>>736165593In this case the "skill" is the amount of money and lawyers they have, Palworld will have to resort to facts and logic to win.
>>736158362someone post the tendie seethe on reddit/twitter, i need that.
>Tendies have to argue the patent for summoning monsters for battle is 100% original do-not-steal idea only found in pokemon>But they also have to argue that palworld stole it somehow
>>736166010patent trolling is a thing and will always be a thing until retards decide that holding onto a piece of paper and doing NOTHING at all with it for DECADES while constantly hounding everyone who does anything similar so they can sue them into compliancethese people sit on patents and do nothing with them aside from trying to sue anyone they canthey will never attempt to sell their idea to investors, they will never order parts from warehouses to make their patent, they will never accept deals to sell their patent, they will never ship their patent to customers, because they have nonethey LITERALLY only exist by suing targets that fall under their vague description of something that is widely used
>>736166217>Palworld will have to resort to facts and logic to win.Is that why they tried to lie and throw modders under the bus?That said, David is a good example given the atrocities he committed as king.
>>736160540the concept of capturing and training beasts/animals in order for them to perform tasks for you is as old as mankind itself, stone age savages were domesticating wolves and wildcats to serve their needs, Nintendo patenting that concept is literally as crazy as them trying to patent fishing in a videogame, hell, taming wild beasts likely predates the concept of fishing too.
>>736166351Fun fact, patent trolling only happens in America due to the incompetence of the USPTO and legal system there.Every other country has eliminated patent trolling by doing their actual job.
>>736158362Let the era of good Pokemon clones begin.
>>736166407>the conceptIt's not about concept. Capturing an animal with bait and rope and then domesticating and breeding it until you get the desired result isn't the same as throwing a ball despite both having the same end result
>>736158362I patended breathing manually
>>736166217You are literally cheering on slimy thieving jews, palsloppers really not sending their best
>>736166457You mean bad clones.
>>736166457Those already exist and they aren't slopworld
>>736166073How is that superficial but the throwable shifting direction slightly isn't? People can just make pokemon clones but if the ball curves slightly when thrown it's ok? Let's just do that then.
>>736166621Well if they're clones, they'd automatically be bad I guess. Let the era of good games inspired by Pokemon begin.
>>736162650Insane tendie can't even read the article, sad
>>736166407You "people" are literally too low IQ to breathe, these threads prove we need to ban the third world from posting
>>736161991>journalists>workloving every laugh
>>736166548You mother fuckerYou're now aware of your tongue in your mouth and your nose.
>>736166725cry more tendie faggot, my left nut has a higher iq than you, and its whiter.
>>736166670You're a little late to the party, pashtel
>>736166567Ironic coming from a supporter of a company that is trying to patent an entire genre for themselves.
>>736166778You are a brown low IQ nigger retard, you can't comprehend basic conceptsHow would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast this morning?
>>736160540>nintendo invented [game mechanic that existed before nintendo used it]tendies are never beating the allegations of only playing nintendo games.
>>736166661>How is that superficial but the throwable shifting direction slightly isn't?Because the speed isn't another function, hell in pla you already have multiple balls with different speeds and that's not included in the patent but getting a physics based object is.>People can just make pokemon clones but if the ball curves slightly when thrown it's ok?Yes, that's how ridiculously easy to avoid patent infringement
>>736166860Yeah that don’t happen, moshe, nice jewish tricks though
>>736166670>Let the era of good games inspired by Pokemon begin.Again, you mean bad.
>>736166908So wait, tendies know of other games and can explain how they're different but you're saying they're the same just because they're throwing a ball and you think they haven't played games?
>>736158362Considering they patented this to fuck with palworld while having let literally pokemon clones like nexomon or robopon populate their systems for years its not surprising someone told them to fuck off.
>>736167112Palworld didn't exist when they patented it and nexomon and robopon don't use it.
>i-its April fools>t-they can appealLmfaoooo
>>736158362I didn't even know you could patent basic gameplay like this.Why has nobody patented shooting a gun in vidya yet? Or health systems. Or magic.
>>736166920All of these functions have existed in separation for decades and you can just string a couple of them together, like [grenade throw] + [spawn creature] and prevent anyone from putting those functions together again? That's bullshit. The patent is way too generic and it's good that they rejected it.
>>736167389Look another retard
>Nintendo sues US government>US government reverts their patent
>>736167448imagine being this much of a retard, we seriously need to stop your third world shithole from entering white countries asap
>>736167448>and you can just string a couple of them together, like [grenade throw] + [spawn creature] and prevent anyone from putting those functions together again?If you're combining different functions into one then you have to make a new to do so. That's how it works.>The patent is way too generic and it's good that they rejected it.All patents are the same anon whether you like it or not.
>>736158362Honestly? Good.t. Pokemon fan
>>736167637I really hoped this lawsuit would spark debate about the patent system itself and how ridiculous it is when applied to game mechanics, it needs some new guidelines.
>>736167869because chinkslop cant ripoff pokeslop? grow the fuck up nigger
>>736167949Apply the same principle to other mechanics like shooting or jumping and you'll understand.
>>736168131but I'm not reatrded like you
>>736168181You sure sound retarded
>>736158362A win for Atlus.
>>736167869It was never going to do that because it's only gaming and only when it's related to Nintendo where people make a stink about it and even then just annoy everyone who is complaining never gets it right so it just ends up as a bunch of people throwing a tantrum while everyone else ignores them.
>>736168259>t. has been explained how patents world thousands of times and is still too retarded to understandlmao
Gary Gygax should sue Nintendo for stealing D&D mechanics of 'player can summon monsters to fight for them' since you've always been able to conjure monsters and summon familiars and shit.
>>736168716>t. retard
>>736168716If he wants to be counter sued, sure.
>>736168346There was a pretty big stink about the nemesis system, the 'minigame during loading screen' and the sanity meter patents too. The more patents are made the more of a minefield game development becomes, I don't want a world where you can accidentally stumble on a patent and get sued for trying to be creative. Devs will just have to recycle the same few boring unpatented mechanics over and over while all the interesting ones remain in stasis.
>>736168823>3 >nobody gives a shit about any of themnothing is stopping anyone from doing something similar to these btw, but I’m sure no loading screen minigames is a huge loss
>>736168823>There was a pretty big stink about the nemesis system, the 'minigame during loading screen' and the sanity meter patents too.Not really, much like now it was a bunch of people who didn't know anything so when they were corrected with games that had gameplay during loading and games with a similar system to the nemesis system it just undermined them completely.>The more patents are made the more of a minefield game development becomesNot really, in fact it's exceedingly difficult to land on an exact patent if your intent is to be original. That's why over the years only companies who have openly stolen have been sued for patent infringement.
>>736169013>but I’m sure no loading screen minigames is a huge lossThe best part about that one is that it wasn't about mini games specifically, it was about loading another game while loading the original.That's how bandai got around it in the 2000s because they weren't loading a different game.
>>736169083Even if you don't land exactly on a patent that doesn't stop the patent-holder from suing you, then you have a multi-year long lawsuit going on costing you tons of money, aka patent trolling. Some companies make and buy as many patents as they can in order to protect developers from this jewery, other's do it to jew.
>>736160540>>736162650Tendies are so fucking mentally ill holy shit.
>>736169353you are literally on the side of jews btw it’s hilarious how you're such a low iq nigger cattle
>>736169353>Even if you don't land exactly on a patent that doesn't stop the patent-holder from suing youYes, yes it does. If it isn't exact then there's no grounds to sue and it would effectively be an instant loss since there would be no matching examples.For it to go on for years you would need a judge that's horrendously incompetent or the defendant would have to do it themselves.
>>736169490Go play in the yard son, the adults are talking
>>736169353>Even if you don't land exactly on a patent that doesn't stop the patent-holder from suing youTell that to Sega when they failed at suing the guys who made Simpson's Road Rage.That was a much, much simpler patent than this ball throwing one and the two at a glance were almost exactly the same and they still lost
>>736169685>t. kike enableryou are getting exposed jew
