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I think it's time we apologize to Civ 6.
We were too harsh on this game.
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>>736158753
civ6 is better than civ5
civ5 has the much better soundtrack and visual style tho
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>>736158753
Ban Steam charts threads
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>>736158890
>>736158753
Oh god the music the art style is so boring the it puts me to sleep sometimes I dont know why but it does
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>districts
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>>736158890
The art style is debatable, although a cartoony art style like Civ 6 is more likely to age well
Civ 4 leaders were also kind of cartoony and it aged well too
The same cannot be said about 5, the leaders there look too low-detail by today's standards, because of that semi-realistic approach
As for soundtrack I prefer 6 because of how each Civ has its own track that evolves trough eras
Also Civ 6's theme is a whole load better and grandiose than 5's, which was putting me to sleep after a while
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQYN2P3E06s
But it's not surprising, considering it was made by Christopher Tin who also made Baba Yetu in 4, dude just knows how to tell a story about humankind through music.
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pin steam chart threads
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>>736159246
>Filters Civ 5 normgroids
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>>736158753
6 is shit.
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>>736159246
Funniest mechanic they ever included in those games.
If you don't like it, that makes you low-IQ btw
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>>736159273
>Civ 6's theme is a whole load better and grandiose than 5's,
It's good but brave new world theme was better to me
And overall the soundtrack in civ5 is so much nicer. Not just the leader themes but everything:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBYHM0QRoMo
beautiful.
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>>736159317
5babs just want a game that plays itself with barely any strategy
They'll keep using the same solved, 100% win "strategy" everytime because the game is fundamentally shallow and underdesigned.
So when Civ 6 comes out and asks its players to think about cities development for instance, naturally they just threw a tamper tantrum
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>>736159645
>it's good but brave new world theme was better to me
that theme is just sleep inducing, that anon is right
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>>736159645
>defending 5's theme over 6's
what the fuck, no fucking way, you are a real person? You aren't trolling?
https://youtu.be/5HZQvYj7zNI
You prefer this shit to Dream of Flight? No, fuck off. You aren't serious.
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>>736159273
>>736159645
>>736159753
https://youtu.be/jOF9v-W6kdc?si=dzU6OyQmWWKSkzZh
they brough christopher tin back again for 7 and its another great theme, regardless of what you think about the game itself
personally i like the game a lot but i see why others dont
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only low iqs like districts
the more complicated something is the more an idiot will admire it
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>>736159908
His weakest main theme, but better than 5's, it feels like he's trying with this one, rather than just going for it
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>>736159919
>the more complicated something is the more an idiot will admire it
Oh the cope!
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>>736159974
i didnt like it at first but it really grew on me. baba yet is still the goat but id probably put live gloriously equal to dream of flight now
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>>736158753
I'm still amazed at how they managed to completely kill the fucking IP forever with that Humankind bad ripoff trash heap
Literally one of the biggest flop I have seen from an iconic franchise in a decade
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>>736159273
>although a cartoony art style like Civ 6 is more likely to age well
It looked like shit on release and it looks like shit now
>The same cannot be said about 5
It looked fine on release and it looks fine now
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>>736160059
Explain Nu Final Fantasy, Kingdom hearts, Death Stranding and modern anime then?
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>>736159645
Only correct post in a sea of 6 newfags defending their slop
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>>736160229
theyll be fine, every civ launch is met with "this is shit im sticking to [previous game]". not usually this bad, but its typical for a new game to be outperformed by its predecessors out the gate. itll get some updates and sooner or later everyone will decide that actually 7 is the definitive civ game. and then 8 itll come out and everyone will decry it as shit for not being like 7.

theres a big update coming in the next month or two i think that lets you play as one civ the whole way through which will propbably be popular with people
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>>736160236
It flopped so bad they're turning it into an actual Civ game where you are not forced to play Harriet Tubman, Female Caliph of the Abbasid Empire
But sadly the damage is already done, the game will always be rotten at its core because of this stupid ass decision to rip off the game that failed doing the same thing with the swapping civ shit
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https://store.steampowered.com/app/597180/Old_World/
come home, white man
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>>736160414
>every civ launch is met with "this is shit im sticking to [previous game]"
No, it was always
>This is unfinished, I'm going back until they release the expansions
Now it's
>This is shit, I'm not going back until they remake the game from scratch
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>>736158753
Lol, even jewtubers like potatomfaggot whose livelihood depende on Civ being a succesful game, absolutely hate Cvi 7 and dropped it.
At this point it seems Civ as a franchise will cease to exist. But indie devs will pick up the pieces and give us true innovation. Like that Uncivilised game that has fully realistic diplomacy using natural language and LLMs.
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>>736158753
Its been 10 years?
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>>736160414
Except Civ 5 and 6 weren't heavily flawed at launch
They only suffered from being barebones, which expansions fixed
This was the contract.
They now released an actual dogshit base game, meaning they will have to waste time and money unfucking all the shit they did first, before even considering expanding the game with DLCs
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>>736160476
meant for >>736160229
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civ 7 is the best civ game and its not even fucking close. bunch of secondaries itt who havent played a civ game since 4 and just parrot talking points from reddit
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>>736160739
sunk cost fallacy
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>>736161535
>its unfathomable to /v/ that people just enjoy playing videogames
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>Civ 6
>Start game
>Find out after 5 turns that Rome is my direct neighbor
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>>736158753
Why the fuck do people like Civ games so much
Those games are not even real strategy
Fucking casual scum
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>>736159753
>You prefer this shit to Dream of Flight? No, fuck off. You aren't serious.
Yes. Music isn't about being bombastic, but soothing
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AI is a bit too retarded on Civ 6 and the terrain looks like fucking shit
I like the art otherwise and a lot of the gameplay aspects are an improvement

MONAY
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>>736158753
V > IV > > > powergap > VI > dogshit > VII
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Downloaded 6 after a year today to play a few games. It's sooooo slow. Production and building improvements takes forever and it's not fun. V is better, but seriously play the Civ 4 mod History Rewritten and you'll never want to play either again. That shit is like crack.
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>>736158753
They completely sapped away the very essence of Civ games with 7.
Civ games are supposed to be anachronistic, ahistorical sandboxes where you develop an empire from cavemen to spaceships in any way you see fit, at least up until normal difficulties.
The whole premise of those games is to have, for instance, samurais fighting roman legions in a rainforest
Or having the zulus developing into a modern superpower and nuking london
Now you can't really do that freely because you can only play a handful of civs per era
This civ swapping shit also means there is little to no snowballing (literally half the fun of these games even if it can be unfair or broken), as each of the three eras have you starting in a boring status quo
Plus the swapping doesn't follow any kind of historical logic, aside from a few exceptions
Should have called this game "Leaders" instead of "Civilization"
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>>736162850
II>III>IV>V>I>VI>VII
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There's simply no point in purchasing a Civ game until the 2 expansions that fix the game release and you can get the complete experience for a significant discount.
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VI > V
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>>736159246
hello smoothbrain
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>>736162850
>>736162962
>>736163031
VI VII
get it like six seven
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>>736163123
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>>736162870
>building improvements takes forever
It doesn't, it takes one turn, and you shouldn't improve every fucking tile, just focus on the best ones you can work with the current citizen number you have
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>>736159317
>pic
And this is why you hear so much complaining about Civ 6 mechanics
Civ 5 is so fucking barebones, it was the first Civ game of a whole load of mouthbreathers in result
Anyone that played a Civ game before 5 realizes there is nothing wrong with 6, it took 5's formula and iterated on it
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>>736159317
>>736163674
the city planning aspect adds a ton of depth and skill expression if youre primarily interested in the strategy of the game over the immersion/roleplay aspect
so does civ switching in 7
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>>736161830
Name some real strategy
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>>736164885
Europa Universalis
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>>736165027
>paraslop map painter
kek, good joke anon
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>>736164074
>over the immersion/roleplay aspect
The whole Timeline and Historic Moment mechanics have literally more immersion/roleplay to them than anything in 5
Also the fact that natural landmarks in 6 like rivers, lakes, deserts, continents and such get attributed a name that's displayed on the map
Or even the random natural disasters
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TOTAL cultural sweep
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>>736160739
based
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>>736158753
>Luigi
Can't hate Civ6, even if I don't like it.
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>>736163214
Brittany was so fine. Easily the best big brother girl next to the one chick with the fat tits.
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>>736158753
I know this is a bait OP and most the replies liking it are bait but I've always considered 6 the better game apart from how much of a "solved" game it is
Its by far the best multiplayer civ in terms of playing it consistently but worse than 5 in that it turns people away from one-off games
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>>736158890
4 and 3 are better than both.
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Civ 6 is better than 5 for one reason: loyalty mechanic
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>>736165468
wife
for me, it's jadwiga's childbearing hips
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It’s not like we needed another one but civ 7 was a great example of how all streamers without exception lie for money and swag. Every single top civ streamer was flown out to play 7 and they all came back saying it was great. They didn’t even say “hey you need to bring back districts being color coded, my viewers may have a hard time following the game if not.” Nope. Cash those checks. Take those trips.

You could tell lots of them had switched to their channel being their main career and their greediness about civ destroyed that. So at least there was some justice.
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>>736159645
Easily one of the best things 6 did was have the theme for each Civ advance with the ages
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>>736170749
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6icrNDN4TUA
>*redskins war cry chanting intensifies*
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>>736159246
I like how districts cause cities to physically expand as they grow, and how they give you more to think about when planning cities as you keep an eye out for good spots lay them out in

7 however seems to have taken it too far, every lategame screenshot I see looks WAY too crowded in urban sprawl, apparently in that one you build a district for EVERY 'city centre' building?
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>>736158753
None of the original devs worked in civ 6 so no. Not apologizing.

I'll continue to support Old World instead because the Civ 4 devs were the best.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ze5-Ls-cWCU
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>>736171117
Love all the Ancient themes, they all have that primitive, "humble beginnings" feel to them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UodWo35rp8
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>>736170749
It's a good idea, but the civ5 soundtrack is still way better. The modern era songs sound like disney. Civ5 was tasteful, classical.
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Sell me on civ 6. I have it purchased, but I played about 3 hours and dropped it
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>>736160739
I'm interested in hearing your take, what do you like so much about it?
I'm willing to give the game a try eventually once the inevitable expansions are out, but unlike previous civ games from an outsider's perspective the base game looks incredibly flawed for that to even be possible
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>>736171821
the age system opens up a lot of strategic options. mixing and matching leaders and civs, and pivoting from one civ to another over the course of the game, gives civ 7 more strategic depth by orders of magnitude in terms of how you play at the most base level. it basically takes what was previously a fixed aspect of the game and opens it up into a new layer of strategy where you can find and exploit synergies. its super fun and interesting. you go into games with a build now, which wasnt ever really the case prior

combat is also vastly improved. commanders make it so much more fun because youre not just micro-ing 700 units, while their buffs still leave a lot of room for skill expression and micro once the actual fighting starts. war support (part of a wider system of hugely improved diplomacy from whatever the fuck 5 had going on) is cool, and the age system also means tech trees are capped, so wars dont boil down to "i outtech you and therefore have a 40 combat strength advantage" (even units within an age are much closer in CS than in previous games)

those are the biggest two for me. the game has its flaws (legacy paths do feel really samey, though ive been playing the beta build and the new system improves on those massively) but once it clicked for me i just couldnt go back to older civs. i pursue war every game now just because its fun, whereas in civ 6 i actively avoided it, and if i needed a military win i just rushed bombers to take cities without having to do real fighting, because land wars were so fucking tedious



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