What does this box need to do to impress you?No retarded posting like '5090 performance for free!'
>>736159019Be cheap I guess
>>7361590195090 performance for free!
more than 8GB of VRAM would be a start
>>736159019release HL3
>>736159057I think people will be disappointed, it's not gonna be $500, it's gonna be priced more like a PC.
>>736159019>5090 performance for free!'Why is that retarded? Why not demand good things?
>>736159019It cannot. It's nothing more than another low quality product for Valve cultists.
>>736159019for a computer to impress me it needs to be cost efficient. that's it.
>>736159019With the specs, it needs to be cheap.
>>736159019600 bucks or less, anything higher than this and i dgaf
Got to love witnessing the PC master race being hype as fuck for a console
it needs to float in the air like a balloon.
>>7361590195080 performance for free
>>736159019>cheap>better than the thing I currently have under the TV (pic related)I'm certain it's gonna be better than my current living room PC. Now what's left is the price.
>>736159406a PC is a console by definition.
If it can run heavily modded bethesda games, shit like lorerim and uranium fever and costs less than $1000
good windows drivers so i don't have to use trannylinux
>>736159406It is just a smol PC though.
>>736159019Be 300€
>>736159406>hypeMore like disappointment. Only people hyped are redditors that think Steamos is going to be wildly supported or magical.
>>736159019>CEC on a desktopI'm already impressed
>>736159019be priced at $1500 and come bundled with Half Life 3.we dont want the poor or thirdies to be members of the Master Race.
>>736159592Enjoy the 10+ gigabyte RAM usage while doing absolutely nothing. Even after using all the debloaters and Chris Titus crap I can't get it bellow 7.
>>736159019A valve software launch title (that is also playable on my PC) i still won't buy it but I'll be impressed
>>736159019Turns out there was no GPU shortage and you all get scammed based on Al letter of intent that isent going to happen .So this trash should be 400 max
>>736159019I already have a gaming PC. The only use I would have for this Steam box shit is to plug to my TV and play on the couch when I feel lazy. Unfortunately for Valve, cheap consoles already exist for this.
>>736159871>market is literally fakeThat's it, I'm implementing integralist distributist corporatism now.
>>736159756wait until you discover DDC/CI
>>736159019Have a ~500w PSU and a PCI-e 5.0 16x slot, with a cutout on the rear, so you can ham fistedly) install a 300w GPU if you wanted.It could have been a great 'starter pc' something better than the shitty optiplexes kids buy now.Instead it's locked down forever. Gay.
>>736159019I'm not going to buy it.I'm not going to buy it, because Valve's hardware has always been antithetical to PC gaming. Which is odd, because on the surface it looks like it's very much in favor of it, but really, Valve wants PC gaming to be as accessible as a console. Well, if we wanted consoles, we'd get consoles, not a PC. However, console users I imagine have heard about the mythical PC, and would like to join the master race, but using a PC sounds like it's a thing only geeks do, and they're right, so buying a GabeCube makes sense to them. It's more affordable, it's easier to use, you don't need to assemble it, and I imagine the UI will be simpler than Windows. It makes sense why Valve will do this, and while I respect their effort, deep down I'm terrified of having more normies in PC gaming.The only thing I can realistic do to combat that, is not buy the Steam Machine, so I'm not going to buy it.
I don't think there's anything they could do to make this is a good product. Partnering with some prebuilt manufacturer to make Steam-branded machines would have been more sensible. Angling it as a games console but weaker and more expensive immediately paints it in a bad light when the only sensible value proposition is to buy it to use as a full PC and not just a console
>>736159019Piracy. Only thing it needs. Otherwise, stick to PCs.
>>736160109I know about DDC/CI. I'm not impressed by technology, I'm impressed by its inclusion.I want to use my TV's gyro remote to control mouse in windows same as it already works in android.
>>736159019a non upgradeable pc, thanks gaben
>>736159057>pc's being cheap >in this economy lol, lmao even
>>736160376It's upgradable. Why do you think it's not?
>>736160536it's about as upgradeable as a laptop
>>736160504Hence why it being cheap would be impressive
>>736159019>'5090 performance for free!'you mean geforce now?
>>736160691>Dodges the question.I'll repeat myself>It's upgradable, why do you think it's not?Don't be scared.
>>736159838Did Alyx impress you?
>>736160987yes it's still one of the best vr games on the market
>>736161079its the only vr game on the market>b-b-but scrimblo blimbo 3!no
>>7361591068gb is enough though
>>736159594A PC is something i can change the parts of, you cant stick a new graphics card in this thing
>>736161239You literally can.
>>736161239some autismo will probably do it through the nvme slot
>>736159019I already have a pretty good PC, so nothing it can offer would make me interested BUT all it has to do is be a good, out-of-the-box PC gaming platform for the people that don't want to bother with the occasional problem fixing of PC gaming.
>>736161192New RE game needs 9gb for 1080p max settings with RT set to high.
serious answer: it needs non-shitty backported ml-based upscaling akin to ps5 pro's pisser, even if valve has to work with amd on a custom solutionfsr3 is the achilles' heel on all of the amd-based handhelds currently, there's no point to getting an expensive one because the upscaling looks like utter dogshit. the gabecube will be no different unless valve figures something else out
>>736159019im not the target audience
>>736159019Likely nothing, I already own a PC.
>>736159019If it's under $800, it'll be an instant pre-order.I want a cube to go under my TV.
>>736161349>1080p max settings with RT set to high.>shitboxyeah
>>736161293Yeah im sure a 5090 can fit in there
>>736161860>Moving the goalpostsThe telltale sign of sour grapes.
>>736162098>you literally can >ask how you can>ermm thats goalpost moving!!!!!?????
>>736161239
>>736162273And no it is not a laptop dock / port extender.The black box is the PC.
>>736162273dvi... sovl
>>736162214>ask how you canYou literally never asked that.Disingenuous faggot.
>>736162713Im sure a 5090 can fit in it is implication of asking how one would fit it in there
>>736163000>Admits he never asked the questionThanks for confirming your status as a disingenuous faggot.
>>736159019Useless thing for retards who can't build a PC and a LOT of tranny marketing. Nothing could impress me with it. Except how many retards will shill it for free, of course.
>>736159142>It's going to be priced more like a PCSo cheaper than a console then?>B-b-but consoles are cheaperGetting a PS5 Pro (equivalent, no matter how much consoletards cope) now would be 899$ + Tip + 80$ a year for online + 80$ every 2 years for a new controller.At this point the only thing that can turn a console into "a bargain" over PC is the copium of buying for the old black friday price, never paying for online and learning to solder.
>>736163390>Getting a PS5 Pro (equivalent, no matter how much consoletards cope) now would be 899$ + Tip + 80$ a year for online + 80$ every 2 years for a new controller.Still has more value than a $1000 with worse specs than a PS4 Pro.
>>736160279It already has that since it is a PC.
>>736163118semantics to deflect away from answering why you can't change the parts, its form factor was obviously made to not change parts out
>>736163569You admitted you never asked the question.Why are you crying?
>>736163487>a $1000 with worse specs than a PS4 ProWhat are you on about? I bought a PC for $1100 in late 2024 with equivalent performance to a PS5 pro.
>>736161239A PC is a Personal Computer, which this is.
>>73615901964GB or more of VRAM at a reasonable price.
>>736159019I got a laptop with a 6GB 4050 for 900€plus it has 24GB ddr5 plus an 8core 16threads CPU. I had this on my radar but they'll never have the ram to sell it at 500-600€ which would make it appealing so, fuck it, the laptop will help me better with work as well.
>>736163638You still don't want to tell us how a 5090 will fit in it cause you can't You are hyperfixated on such a meaningless thing cause you cant actually address the point
>>736159019If your brain isn't smooth you can get a very similar experience with the ghetto-ass AsRock BC250 for about $400
>>736163690My phone is a PC too right
>>736163847>You still don't want to tell us how a 5090 will fit in it cause you can'tWhere did I ever say it did?Quote the exact post. Don't be scared.
>>736159019Cheap enough and more VRAM would be nice, 12GB seems to be the minimum with how badly optimized games are.
>>736163912Yup. No question about it.A console is a PC too.And funnily enough, a PC is a console, by definition.What a useless collection of definitions!
I think people just want the best possible hardware at a $499 price point. They don't even care if it's not actually very performative they just want the fastest machine possible at that price point.
What you are all referring to is actually an "Xbox".
>>736163931See>>736161293You said you literally can to a post that said you cant stick a new graphics card in it, so how can you stick a new graphics card in it
>>736159592when did this place get such an ego over being tech-illiterate?
>>736160783It's not upgradeable for the same reason a laptop isn't: it's physically too small. You can't fit a normal sized graphics card in it or any other meaningful upgrade. Don't be a disingenuous twat.
>>736161325and people already did this with the deck
>>736164140>ESL can't readI said you "literally can" upgrade the graphics card. Steam has confirmed this.Now quote the post where I said *that* graphics card fits in the console.You won't, because you can't.
>>736164156>goalpost movingDon't be a disingenuous twat.
I built this PC that's about equivalent to a Steam Box or base model PS5 in OctoberIt cost me $405 totalIt's also 4x the size of the Steam Box, which means it's actually pretty damn small (exactly the same width, 2x the height, 2x the depth)
>>736164274You are being dishonest. SWhen people say upgradeable, they mean "I can literally put any PC-compatible component in the world in it". That's what it means. And it doesn't have that.
>>736164274>yeah you can upgrade the graphics card but not that graphics card or any graphics card thats bigSo you cant upgrade it as any good graphics card is bigger than steambox
>>736164363You are wilfully pretending you don't comprehend other peoples' arguments because you know you cannot defend the shitcube if you have to acknowledge them. The argument THE WHOLE TIME has been that it is bad because you cannot put a desktop sized GFX card in it. That is the argument and has been the whole time. It's also obviously true because fucking look at its size.
>>736164403No, when they say "upgradable" they mean it can be upgraded.>T-that's what it meansQuote a dictionary definition that confirms this in your next reply, or you lose.
>>736164552I understand the argument. It's disingenuous. it can be upgraded. What I said is correct.Why are you crying so hard about this?
>>736163909Found my parts list for this. Under £300 is quite impressive for the performance level on offer. If I had to build a new system/recommend something to someone that wasn't dumb I'd probably tell them to go for this what with prices being insanity at the moment.
>>736160135k.
So we basically know or sure this thing isn't coming out this year right? Im starting to think its better just to build your own console with a 9060 and give it steam os as opposed to buying a steam machine with a modified 7600
>>736164592>>736164648lol just disingenuous arguments, yeah switch 2 and ps5 can be upgraded too by the strict definition. I added a 4TB SSD to my ps5 thats an upgrade!
>>7361590195090 performance for free is the only way a PC with PS5-tier specs can impress me.
>>736159019I don't plan to buy one since I have a good desktop, but since they'll go some way to setting stable HW requirements for games, I'll benefit indirectly.
>>736159019Nothing really, it already checks all the marks for what I need>around 1000$ (speculation)>more powerful than ps5 pro>all the benefits of PC, literally all of them>fun design that doesn't stick out like "alien tech wannabe" in your roomBut to me what matters the most is being more powerful than the ps5 proPS5 pro:>16gb of shared ram >4gb reserved to the OS >8gb reserved as regular ram so that the system can run stably >4gb dedicated as vram for gamesGabe Cube:>16gb of ram + 8gb of vram >more ran for the OS and the system >double the vram of the ps5 pro
>>736159142it would've been 500 dollars last year, now it cant be any cheaper than 800
>>736163990>A console is a PC tooWrong. It's just a C, you don't own shit
Whatever this is Microsoft will just destroy it with the next Xbox. Microsoft has more liquid cash than Valve as a whole and they'd be willing to sell at a loss to squish any chances of SteamOS getting off the ground which is something Valve never seems willing to do.
>>736159019The only scenario I can see myself buying one is if it's cheap enough that I'll buy it as a Christmas present instead of a console for my little brother. In which case, it has to be cheap enough to be comparable to a console, a lot of games, online and possibly a spare controller.Realistically to hit that price point will be pretty easy because the games I'd get him are dirt cheap, Steam constantly has sales and there's no paid online.Hitting the Christmas market is probably their best bet, which to do they'd need to advertise it like consoles are advertised and they'd need physical stock in shops. Which I don't think they'll do.
>>736164952Why are you so upset? I genuinely don't understand why you're sperging out so much over my correct statement.
>>736165148You don't own stuff on your PC either, unless you run exclusively linux and only buy games from GoG or pirate them
>>736165438i do that
>>736165691then you're good, I also do that, in truth, the moment I learned about GoG I dropped my steam account with hundreds of games on it, don't care, GoG is much better
>>736159019>Why won't you buy our piece of shit underpowered satanic looking dystopian box you raysisst bigot chud!!!!!
>>736159019Tongue my anus
>>736159019700 USD.>>736160504>nooo, you shouldn't ask for good pricesThen I will not buy. Simple as.
The Steam Machine doesn't have a PCI-E slot. The interior volume of the case is 100% filled by its heatsink and fan. You can't put a GPU in it. What a fucking stupid thing to say.
>>736166196Sooo like every console ever made? What's wrong with that? They already tried mITX SFF with the first Steam Machines.
>>736165363>u mad brolol no arguments left
>>736166581its not a console
>>736166753Why would I need an argument at this point? I'm correct. What's there to argue about?
>>736164391>I built this PC that's about equivalent to a Steam Box or base model PS5lmao no it's not
>>736166904You clearly arent correct as you cant fit shit in that small box like an good graphics card and just being disingenuous with definitions of words
>>736166797Walks like duck yadda yadda.
>>736167081Stop crying.Valve already confirmed the console is upgradable.That means my statement was correct.
access to FSR4 Int8 at least. more vram would be nice but there isn't much in the RDNA3 mobile lineup, it's a shame there wasn't a 10gb 160bit RDNA3 card like the 6700M (and desktop 6700 non XT), even the 7700S was 8gb
>>736159019>actually handhelds are ok now>actually consoles are good now tooWhy can't pcgroids just admit that using a personal computer has never been a good way to play videogames? Rolfe was right, and you all know it.
>>736167336the issue with PCs was the fact that its a million different configurations so nobody knows what to optimize for. The Steam Machine becoming mainstream would be a golden age of gaming.
>>736167502Verified requires at least 30fps. Great standard there.
>>736167304Upgradeable doesn't mean you can change parts like a actual PC, PS5 is upgradeable but you cant change internal parts
nothingi don't need a living room pc and if i did i'd rather build one myselfbut i do want it to succeed so it increases linux marketshare and becomes a nail in the coffin for consoles
>>736164993Why do people keep saying it's equivalent to a base PS5 if it's clearly better than a PS5 pro as you say? If it is better than a PS5 pro, I suppose I will probably buy a Steam Machine.
>>736168058>but i do want it to succeed so it increases linux marketshare and becomes a nail in the coffin for consolesConsoles wouldn't die. You'd just have a similar situation with cellphones and Valve would be the maintainer of SteamOS like Google does for AOSP. That's their end goal. They never wanted to be a hardware company.
>>736159019It's too late, something better has already been announcedhttps://youtu.be/RQkb31_R19Q
>>736168058>becomes a nail in the coffin for consolesUnrealistic, it will definitely kill playstation and xbox, but Nintendo is a whole behemoth in of itself that currently has no threat to its existence and the steam machine will no be that threat.>>736168331Because people have no idea how weak the base ps5 really is, there's tons of misinformation going around regarding it and the shared vram, people look at it and say>"omg 16gb of vram!!! wow so powerful!"But they forget the SHARED part of shared vram, they forget that the 16gb is SHARED between OS, Regular system ram and then vram.There's a reason ps5 games run like ass and look like a blurry mess, needing to upscale from ridiculously low res to 4k, there's only so much that you can do with 4gb of vram which is what the ps5 and ps5 pro get
>>736159019it cant impress me because its just a piece of shit for people who can't afford an actual pc
>>736168725It is a PC, dumbo, why are you attacking people that are on your side? Are you retarded?
>>736159019Relatively cheap, console-like experience with most of the benefits of being a PC, takes care of my driver updates for me
>>736168641OP hereiirc the PS5 can use around 10.5gb of VRAM for games>>736166196i'm guessing this is to keep noise down. the ps5, series x, and series s are all very quiet. we have passed the days of ps4 jet engines.
>>736169175This is not true, this comes from the idea that the shared memory is only shared between OS and vram, I've seen multiple versions going around of that which you say, some people say it's 5.5+10.5, others say 3.5+12.5, others say 4+12 for OS and vram respectively.But they all forget that the system needs memory dedicated as REGULAR ram in order to be stable, it's not that different from a PC, really, so the calculus is around 4gb OS , 8gb regular ram and then 4gb of vramConsole fanboys and "analysts" who are paid by sony to overhype the ps5 conveniently forget that regular ram part.
>>736169516as said, i think the theoretical limit was about 10.5 for vram. as you say, you still need the os. estimating conservatively2GB for OS10.5 for VRAM3.5 for the game executablethat's really a best case scenario though. i expect for many games you're right, and it's probably closer to 8~9GB of VRAM.
>>736159057This. We all know the performance is potato. If it would be cheap which is around $400 for me I would be impressed and even buy it as a side system.
>>736159019I don't care for the box as much as I care for Valve finally pushing out their Steam branded Linux distro.Why do I care?Because I want Linux to be decent, and Valve will cut through the open source software bureaucracy to make it happen, as they've done before.
no microsoft software
I only care about SteamOS reaching a level of functionality that justifies a full transition from windows. So many people only use their home PC for gaming and even if steamos only captures 10% of that audience, it will force Microsoft to actually put some effort into their dogshit os rather than cramming a bunch of bloated ai features nobody wantsI do not need a fucking AI to read my emails for me
>>736167304You can only swap out the SODIMMs and NVMe storage. You cannot ever change the other hardware, its soldered onto the board, you fucking moron.>b-b-but steam confirmed you can put GEEPEEEYOU!!No they didn't. ESL retard.
>>736159019The form factor/volume already impressed me. SteamOS/Proton performance and compatibility already impressed me. I already have a pretty good idea of the hardware performance.There really aren't any unknowns here other than price.
>>736159163That's antithetical to the design criteria. If you try to shove a 600W gpu into that form factor then have a person put that into an entertainment center with minimal airflow it'd overheat and shut down within minutes.
>>736170686Why are you attacking Valve you idiot? They're on your side
>>736160218>Partnering with some prebuilt manufacturer to make Steam-branded machines would have been more sensible.LmaoThat's a proven failure of a strategy.
>>736159019Ps5 pro performance and and HDMI 2.1 port but thats not happening
>>736168641Thanks for the answer. Makes sense to me. Steam Machine should be an upgrade over my current computer then and I'd prefer to play on my tv. And yeah, Nintendo is in a completely separate business as THE video game company that makes video games and a proprietary device that plays them. Sony and Microsoft are selling something else and I think Valve has correctly identified that they can make something better and directly compete with those two. Sony and Microsoft have to get back on the console exclusive train to stop Valve from eating up their market shares.
>>736164875Take me seriously.
>>736159019Release it and hopefully I can buy it before it goes out of stock if the price is fair.
>>736171245Cultist mindset
>>736160135I'm not going to talk you into it, but PC gaming already has plenty of casuals and normalfags so I don't see what you're expecting to happen. On the other hand, you may see it as "inviting console players to PC", but it could also be interpreted as "giving PC players the benefits of consoles without the drawbacks".
>>736159019>>736159073How about performance (and cost) at least as a ps5 for starters?
>>736159019Needs to be affordable. Like $500-600 affordable
>>736164710How did you do cooling?
I just want the controller, come on Gabe.. i am tired of this game
>>736159057>>7361590735090 performance for cheap!
>>736171583HDMI has been obsolete for years and it's just an inferior Displayport.>Muh TV ecosystemHDMI is going to be replaced with local network streaming.
>>736159019>Impress mePut on a little hat and start dancing when other people aren't looking>Satisfy meBe cheap and moderately powerful
Any timeline on when it might actually release?
>>736174713>Put on a little hat and start dancing when other people aren't lookinghow would that even impress you if you can never look at it, how do you know your actual pc doesn't do that
>>736159019To impress me, they'd need to FUCKING LET ME BUY THE CONTROLLER ALREADY GABEN YOU FAT OVERWEIGHT ROUND BULGING MASSIVE TOWERING SUBSTANCIAL LUMPISH INFLATED LARGE IMPOSING MOUNTAINOUS COLOSSAL PLUMP GINORMOUS HUGE MONOLITHIC WALLOPING CYCLOPEAN MEATY CORPULENT MONUMENTAL HULKING BOUNDLESS LEVIATHAN BLUBBERY HUMONGOUS VAST GIGANTESQUE OBESE IMMEASURABLE MONSTROUS VOLUMINOUS IMMENSE PUDGY ELEPHANTINE SIZABLE BROBDINGNAGIAN FLABBY HEAVY OVERSIZED CONSIDERABLE HEFTY BLOATED TUBBY BIG-BONED ROTUND GARGANTUAN WELL-FED LARDWHALE NIGGER
>>736175173Finally, i was getting worried there for a second
>>736173778Anon, HDMI 2.1 is better than DP 1.4 which is the most common DP today, DP 1.4 uses compression so youre not actually getting native 4k on an rtx 5090 through DP 1.4
nice rip off of Apple
>>736175412>>736173778It doesn't matter either way on a 1080p/60fps box
>>736175412What a bizarre observation because Displayport 2.0 is better than HDMI 2.0 which is the most common HDMI today (also the only one supported by open source graphics drivers, which are substantially better in terms of features and performance on cards that aren't actual scams).
>>736175982But DP 2.0 isnt on anything
>>736159019>What does this box need to do to impress you?Come out
>>736159019I don't understand what the point of it is, is this supposed to be for people who don't already own a PC? Will this thing have its own steam operating system and all you can do is download steam games and play them?This seems like the original Xbox launch when Microsoft entered the market to give console players a chance to play Windows based games for the first time on a console. And had devs port PC games to the Xbox in earnest. Except now we live in a time where every AAA game already has a console port. And all the best PC exclusive games are 20+ years old, can run on a toaster, and most aren't even on steam. In fact, the last decade has been the easiest and cheapest ever to get into PC gaming. Consoles are fucking dead. And so is TV for that matter, no reason to even own one.
>>736159142PS5 got price increase, so I think even $700 would be considered a good deal for this now.That said, it's funny how the RAM prices are plummeting just as everyone announces increased prices, even Raspberry Pi.
>>736175173Many are saying this
>>736177350>In fact, the last decade has been the easiest and cheapest ever to get into PC gaming.We've been having constant shortages of components. Mainly GPU. From crypto mining bursts every couple of years to AI bubble and now memory shortage.
>>736177773Just get components when there aren't shortages, you're not a major company that needs to secure a supply chain, you're one guy.
>>736177903My GPU alone (9070 XT) last year cost me as much as my entire PC from 2013 that lasted until 2019 (i5 3470, HD7950, 1TB HDD, 8GB RAM)
>>736159019Be able to replace my Nvidia shield as it is now aging.
>>736177387The RAM industry are a cartel.>>736177350It's doing what Xbox did over 20 years ago with a different outlook. They're looking to disrupt the market. Console manufacturers don't really care if you buy consoles, they want you buying software. Valve is the same. The real money is in selling games. They do not care if you buy a Steam Machine. What they want is their front-end store to be available to 'living room' players who conventionally play on a game console.
>>736177350>Will this thing have its own steam operating system and all you can do is download steam games and play them?It would run SteamOS just like the Deck, where the main interface is essentially Steam big picture mode, and if you need to you can boot into a desktop mode which is just Arch linux with KDE desktop. You probably dont realize how much building a PC or installing an OS scares a lot of normalfags. Theres probably a decent number of people that would like to jump into pc gaming but still want a plug and play solution akin to a console. This would fill that niche.
>>736177387>>736165045No, last year all the rumors were pointing towards a $750-$800 price point. That's why they're not releasing it. RAMageddon has driven prices up so much that it'll be over $1k
>>736164993>>736168641>>736169516/v/ will never defeat the allegations of being technologically illiterate
>>736178738>>736178320Will EVERY game on steam be available?What do steam deck users do when they download an old game that won't work properly with fixes and mods?Is there a disclaimer that just says "hey this probably won't run properly?
>>736179584How is that anon incorrect?
>>736179753If its like the deck then there will be a "Steam Machine Verified" section of games or something right on the front page when you turn the system on. Not that you cant get pretty much any game working if you get into a little tinkering.
>>736179753It is going to be like the 'eck but it doesnt need to have any text adjustments to get verified. It just needs to run at 30 fps.
>>736179753>What do steam deck users do when they download an old game that won't work properly with fixes and mods?They have compatibility mentioned.Since compatibility is not always updated, one of the most popular Steam Deck extension is the one that allows you to view game's ProtonDB rating directly from Steam. They're reported by the players and some games might run better on either newer or older version of Proton (compatibility layer that allows you to play Windows games on Linux) or if you need some additional launch command to get it running.Steam easily allows you change version of Proton.
>>736159019Be better than my current PC I guess at a reasonable price? I've been looking at getting a new PC. Good 1080p performance under 1000$ I guess?
>>736159019Physical software option and not higher than $500. Also, exclusive games; not buying anything that has the same shit as the rest.>>736159142I'm holding my laugh until reveales at $799.00 dollaridoos
>>736159019Manage to actually launch and let me get the controller
>>736159519Not seeing enough vegan seething at that claim, odd.>>736163690The gaben cube is literally sold as a console, anon.
>>736180391>The gaben cube is literally sold as a console, anon.
>>736179753>>736179940Only games that you really can't get to work are ones with malicious DRM/anticheat, not that anyone plays those right...?and badly optimized shite probally won't run. :P
>>736180463Yes, a console... that has some of the features found on PC. What else did you expect?
>>736180391i didnt know consoles had a desktop, let you pirate games, buy from alternative storefronts, etc
>>736180269There's basically zero chance that it's around $500. The components alone would price it at least $800, even with discounts as a manufacturer.
>>736180516https://store.steampowered.com/sale/steammachine?l=english>ctrl+f "console">0 results>ctrl+f "PC">6 results
>the steam machine will be console pric-ACKKKhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHkBcqW-ExY
>>736180693>taking linus tech tips seriouslyngmi
>>736180562My phone is a PC???
>>736159019Be affordable.
>>736180673>PC relate company makes a product>PC named several>Everyone sees product and sees it's clearly tailored to disguise as a console trying to ape a tiny fraction of that audience>"B-But no console word is mentioned REEEEE"Ok lmao
>>736180649>mfw called it $800 when it was revealedNow GTA6 has to be around $100 the base version and I'll have 100% accuracy
>>736180949>The gaben cube is literally sold as a console, anon.>literally sold as a console>literally>not a single time the word console is mentioned in the official materials>LITERALLYDo you understand what does this word mean?
>troonixThanks, I am non-buynary
>>736181069it doesn't matter corpo says, it matters how the common volk perceive it, if the volk perceives it as a consoles, then it's undeniable that it's a console
>>736180463>>736180516>>736180673>>736180949>>736181069SHUT THE FUCK UP
>>736181069It is a "console" PC, you'd be dumb to deny it
>>736159019I guess a deecent benchmark would be PS5 tier performance for well under the price of a PS5. Snoy's making that pretty easy to achieve these days
>>736181241in current market prices the gabecube is $1k+ while being around the same power as a $600 ps5
>>736181191>it matters how the common volk perceive itthis tbqdesu>>736181192NO.
>>736180649OEM discounts add up to about 10% in a best case scenario.Computer market profits margins are pretty thin.
Be a better media box than the smallest case I could cram the guts of my old full tower into and also not cost £1000.
>>736181191The SteamDeck confirms this theory>Switch releases>massive success>Valve makes and releases the Deck>tiny little niche device that is a PC but portable>masses see it as a Switch-esque type of productNow the idiots going "bUT valVE neVeR INtendEd to cOmpete wItH Switch!11!" will conveniently forget the years of Valve droning shitposting how the SD was highly succesful or those "Switch killer" threads some time ago, even them treated it as such corfimig anon's claim.
>>736159019be under 700 to 800 dollars because im not paying more than that for something that sits between a 5700xt and a rx 7600desu i think i could make my own by taking out my 1070 from my ryzen pc putting in a rx 7600then upgrading my r 7 1700 to a 3700x or 5700
>>736180135>>736180481What do steam deck users do with games that don't have hi resolutions available without mods, games that are stuck on 1024x768?Can the steam os overrule stuck resolutions? Imagine playing a PC game at 800x600 on a giant 4k tv
>>736180780Your phone is an Xbox.
>>736159019Just bring Steam to Xbox and PS5 with a clause that works around all of Sony and Microsoft censorship and everything will be fine.
>>736159019Release for one thing, nah just kidding, I only care about the controller WHERE IS IT? WHERE IS IT? WHERE IS IT? WHERE IS IT? WHERE IS IT? WHERE IS IT? WHERE IS IT? WHERE IS IT?
>>736159019jack me off
