Where does Fromsoft succeed where Marathon, Concord, Highguard and Suicide Squad failed?
By making fun games
>>736173192>Make a live service game and partnering with Nintendo The PC Trannys won't be happy with this
>pvp>SOULS pvp...>with Fromsoft netcode...>on top of Ninteno netcode...>ON TOP of shitty handheld wifi....Its fucking doa
>>736173192For one Nightreign and Duskbloods don't play like 50 other games on the market.
>>736175001yeah, they just play like each other instead
>>736173192If it is like Sea of Thieves, shared world PVE with things to do (probably dungeons and bosses in this case) with PVP being reserved for taking a reward from someone else instead of being a random hinderence like in every other souls game, that would be a winning formula for me. I know sea of thieves is not the only game to ever do this but it worked really well until they ruined the game around 2022, ive got about 3k hours in it so I could easily see myself enjoying duskbloods, will wait until we see more about it though, I wont buy it if its nightreign slop.
>>736173674Damn he called it>>736174864
>>736175263Wrong. PvP is main focus of The Duskbloods. Fuck off casual faggot.
>>736173192From has an army of cultists worshiping themThey could shit on a plate and they would still make a profit
>>736176491It is not a cult, it is people with good taste. The only bad game FromSoftware has made is Elden DOGSHIT Ring.
>>736173294fpbp
>>736173192Uh... It's not trying to be a AAAA money printing machine so that's huge.... Those games you listed are nothing at all like Duskbloods. >>736173674It's not live service
>>736176590They've never made a bad game post-Demon's Souls
>>736176590>The only bad game FromSoftware has made is Elden DOGSHIT RingSo the most popular one?
>>736176659Yes, they have, it is called Elden DOGSHIT Ring.
I'm 32 and never bought a nintendo product in my life
>>736176790The boring, time wasting, worthless, meaningless open-world running around simulator one.
>>736173192marketing
>>736176875You probably like Nightreign
>>736176919I probably would if it wasn't a $40 mod. But alas...
>>736176968You didn't miss much, don't worry
>>736176919Like? It is okay, it is for sure 100 times better than Elden DOGSHIT Ring. I respect Nightreign because the majority of Elden DOGSHIT Ring tourists and newcomers hate Nightreign, it filtered them hard. I am so happy thise faggots are getting filtered by both Nightreign and The Duskbloods.Hopefully Project FMC is Armored Core 6.5 or Sekiro 2 or Sekiro spiritual successor, so these Elden DOGSHIT Ring tourists and casual masses get filtered for many more years.
>>736177459I can respect disliking elden ring, but nightreign is literally all the bad parts of elden ring with none of the good partsso you're retarded
>>736177574They have totally opposing and conflicting design philosophies.Elden DOGSHIT Ring is a boring, time-wasting open world in which you can take everything slow and "explore", overlevel, get overpowered and trivialize and cheese everything in the game.Nightreign is a relatively small map that gets smaller as time goes on, SPEED is the foundation of the game, everything you do must be fast, effecient and competent, if you don't GitGud, you GitRekt.Nightreign gave me a good 60-70 hours of entertainment, totally dominated the game, but once that happened it was boring and I CBA wasting thousands of hours in its gacha RNG relic farming system to try different builds and playstyles.
>>736176420They literally called it a PVPVE game. Pvp is pointless without something to fight over.
>>736177864you genuinely have terrible taste
>>736178361Yeah, it is called PvPvE and not PvEvP. PvP is the main focus.
>>736178374Nope, I have the best taste.
>>736176420>>736178576not a chance, keep coping
>>736178709FromSoftware confirmed PvP is the main focus:https://www.nintendo.com/us/whatsnew/creators-voice-the-duskbloods-part-1/https://www.nintendo.com/us/whatsnew/creators-voice-the-duskbloods-part-2/https://www.nintendo.com/us/whatsnew/creators-voice-the-duskbloods-part-3/You are the only one who is coping.
>>736177459>>736177864You need a lobotomy
>>736178840mmm nope they just say it's multiplayer focused, just like nightreignof course if it was pvp focused, it would be even more dead on arrival
>>736173192Image is clearly reskinned Irithyl Cathedral
>>736178924You will always be a tourist secondary, fuck off casual, Elden DOGSHIT Ring will always be DOGSHIT.
>>736178962>Did you always have some desire to make a PvPvE type game?>Yes, I’ve always found the PvPvE structure very interesting.>(2) An acronym referring to a style of fighting where, in addition to players fighting each other, players also fight enemies (CPUs) that appear in the game.>players fighting each otherRetard.
>>736179643>>(2) An acronym referring to a style of fighting where, in addition to players fighting each other, players also fight enemies (CPUs) that appear in the game.>>players fighting each otherwait, so you mean just like every souls game?
>>736176659They made DS1 and DS3, though
>>736179752Nope. Souls games PvP is optional and a minor aspect of the games. The Duskblood core foundational design is PvP.
>>736179843Amazing games, 1000000000x better than Elden DOGSHIT Ring.
>>736180012>The Duskblood core foundational design is PvPare you sure?I checked all those interviews you linked and they never said that
>>736173192By locking it onto Nintendo hardware to filter out the PC cheaters.
>>736177459I'd cum buckets if we get a AC: VI.V
>>736180140>are you sure?Yes, read:>(2) An acronym referring to a style of fighting where, in addition to players fighting each other, players also fight enemies (CPUs) that appear in the game.Addition means that it adds to the primary thing, the primary thing is PvP, the PvE elements are in addition to the PvP foundation.
>>736180012PVP is a gig part of game but it's objectively PVPVE
>>736180694>Addition means that it adds to the primary thing, the primary thing is PvP, the PvE elements are in addition to the PvP foundation.hmm no that's not actually trueit just means both. Addition works the same in any order, the order is arbitrary
>>736180435Miyazaki already confirmed that "Armored Core VI wasn't perfect and there is room for improvement" and that "there will be more Armored Core in the future".We just don't know if they will do an Armored Core 6.5 or skip right away to Armored Core 7.Kadokawa also said that Armored Core VI exceeded their expectation and was a big financial success. So the next Armored Core will have a bigger budget and most likely be much better.
>>736180750Nope, it isn't. I can play Souls games and never enage with its PvP. This wont be be possible in The Duskbloods. While a player can try to focus on the additional PvE elements of The Duskbloods, they share the map with 7 other players that can attack them.I personally will hunt down all the PvE subhumans that play The Duskbloods and fuck them in their mouth and make them lose, back to Elden DOGSHIT Ring seamless co-op you faggots.
>>736181052you can just play duskbloods offlineit changes about as much as playing elden ring offline does
>>736180805>hmm no that's not actually true>it just means both. Addition works the same in any order, the order is arbitraryThat is math definition, not speech definition which is the case here with The Duskbloods, nice try.
>>736181158>you can just play duskbloods offlineSource?
>>736181163>not speech definition which is the case here with The Duskbloodsuh huh I think you're copingeven if it were true that it was meant to be pvp focused, it's still going to end up mostly pve because that's what the nintendo playerbase will want
>>736181247miyazaki said so, look it upjust like how you can play nightreign offline. Duskblood is just nightreign with pvp enabled, you know?
>>736181158>At its core, it’s an online multiplayer* focused game, with both player vs player and player vs enemy gameplay.>*Any Nintendo Switch Online membership (sold separately) and Nintendo Account required for online features. Membership auto-renews after initial term at the then-current price unless canceled. Not available in all countries. Internet access required for online features. Terms apply.The Duskbloods is online only.
>>736181340>miyazaki said soNope, he didn't. Die from cancer you retarded faggot.The Duskbloods is online only: >>736181385
>>736173192>Where does Fromsoft succeedno nigg*rs>where Marathon, Concord, Highguard and Suicide Squad failednigg*rs
>>736181385>At its core, it’s an online multiplayer* focused gameright, so is nightreign>Nintendo Account required for online featuresthat's distinguishing online from offline features. Clearly the game is playable offline
>>736181262>uh huh I think you're copingThe only one coping is you.>even if it were true that it was meant to be pvp focusedIt IS PvP focused, not "was meant to be".>it's still going to end up mostly pve because that's what the nintendo playerbase will wantNope, because I will be raping the Shittendo playerbase and I will prioritize targetting the subhumans that are trying to do the PvE objectives.There is no escape. This is why I love The Duskbloods, it filters Elden DOGSHIT Ring tourists and casuals even harder than Nightreign did.
>>736181554>right, so is nightreignNope, Nightreign isn't online multiplayer at its core.>Clearly the game is playable offlineHeadcanon until you provide source.
>>736181589>It IS PvP focused, not "was meant to be".lol if that were true then this is going to be the competing with deracine for playercount
What happened to the Tarnished Edition? I just want to buy the new stuff on PC.
>>736181660>Nightreign isn't online multiplayer at its coreit literally is>Headcanon until you provide source.your quote literally says that the "pay me money to use your internet connection" membership is required for online features specifically, indicating the presence of offline features
>>736181687switch 2 can definitely run elden ring and it'll release any day now surely
I skipped out on Nightreign and likely won't play this. I'm more interested in their next Armored Core game.
>>736181687>>736181829Soon™
>>736181682>lol if that were true then this is going to be the competing with deracine for playercountNot my problem.Not FromSoftware's problem.Nintendo paid for the entire project, all of it and more.I will fuck Shittendo players by forcing PvP on them and there is nothing they can do to escape it.
>>736181767>it literally isIt literally isn't. Multiplayer in Nightreign is optional.>your quote literally says that the "pay me money to use your internet connection" membership is required for online features specifically, indicating the presence of offline features>indicating the presence of offline featuresNot really. A game can be fully online and that Nintendo disclaimer still applies.
>>736181930Its going to be so fun. You just know that a bunch of ill informed tendies that have never played a souls game will buy it because its exclusive. I can't wait to hunt them.
>>736182084>Multiplayer in Nightreign is optionaljust like in duskblood
>>736182185>just like in duskbloodNo source nor evidence, therefore headcanon, until you provide source or evidence.
>>736181930>I will fuck Shittendo players by forcing PvP on them and there is nothing they can do to escape it....other than turning off their internet connection
>>736182241>Internet access required for online featuresthat's interesting. Not "internet access required to play the game". Specifically online features. I wonder what the implication is?
>>736181930Lmao you don't know who you're fucking with buddy. I'm the best Nintendo player there's ever been. Smash, Mario, Mario Kart, Pokemon and Splatoon are my shit. I will wipe the floor with you in The Duskbloods on the Nintendo Switch 2 ™
>>736182291>...other than turning off their internet connectionThey automatically lose the match and I will be 1 step closer to First Blood, win-win for me.
>>736182651>They automatically lose the matchno?they'll just win by killing the boss, like 99% of other players
>>736182627If by some miracle, a Shittendo clown is a better direct combat PvPer than me, then I will play opportunistic and ambush you when you least expect it ;)This is how Miyazaki has developed The Duskbloods.First Blood will be mine.
>>736173674This game is a time exclusive.
>>736182718Disconnecting from the match = you return to the lobby and lose that match.Keep coping and shitposting like a retarded faggot, won't change anything.
>>736182867but how are you playing the game without being a shittendo clown yourself?
>>736182907All signs point to Nintendo hard locking this to their console to sell units and their online subscription. Sorry PC loser.
>>736182938>Disconnecting from the match = you return to the lobby and lose that match.source? where did miyazaki say that?
>>736177864You have good taste
>>736183014I'm telling you for a fact that this game is a timed exclusive. I'm also gonna give you a freebie and say a certain game was supposed to have a 6.5 release this year but idk if this is still happening. The next from game is probably gonna get revealed next year but is still a long way off. You can screenshot this and remember me when it happens.
>>736177864>60-70rookie numbers
>>736183125You need a lobotomy
>>736183215Its not good enough to put 100 hours into let alone 1000
>>736183156I highly doubt it comes it PC, on the slim chance it eventually does then it needs a cross play update.
>>736183287Good enough for me.
>>736176659>Steel Batallion Heavy Armor>Deracine>ACE Portable
>>736182967I am buying a Switch 2, playing The Duskbloods for 29 days, then sending back the Switch 2 and getting back my money for the Switch 2 because of the 30 days rule the shop I buy from has.Shittendo is only getting my money for the online connection and partially from The Duskbloods.
>>736183032>source? where did miyazaki say that?That is how an 8 player PvPvE game works.
>>736181829It runs on PS4, I'm guessing the devs are burned out and don't want to go back to Elden Ring.
>>736183125Thanks, you too.
>>736183215I completed and 100% the game, nothing left to do but farm GACHA rng relics, not hanks, I am too smart for that.
>>736183345>it needs a cross play update.Nope, fuck cross play. The only thing it needs is the most aggressive kernel level access anti-cheat system available on the market and instant IP+hardware ban for anyone who is caught cheating. I wish DENUVO would create kernel level access anti-cheat software and FromSoftware implements in all their games that have online features.
>>736184540You PC cucks will never get it. Have fun watching me play the game
>>736175263it's a pvpve extraction game. >>736180012>Souls games PvP is optional and a minor aspect of the games.nope
>>736184743I am going to play it on Switch 2, I am just saying what should happen if it comes to PC.
>>736184215>It runs on PS4what does that have to do with a nintendo handheld?
>>736184932>nopeYep, because I can beat all Souls game and never engage with the PvP. That won't be the case with The Duskbloods.
>>736185327lol it clearly is the case with duskbloodit's nightreign with optional pvp
>>736184932>extractionFrom soft can get fucking raped. Fuck that
>>736185372You are a retarded faggot with no source or evidence. The Duskbloods PvP is the core experience.
>>736183717Alright, you got me there
>>736185808The Nightreign™ Co-Op Multiplayer PvE is the core experience
>>736185387Stay mad you retarded faggot, you are the one who can get fucked.
>>736173192I doubt it will be very successful on the switch 2, maybe if it releases on PC we will get another 'PTDE' situation and it will define another generation of PvPvE games forever. Only time can tell.
>>736185981Nope, multiplayer is optional in Nightreign. This is a fact.
>>736186110and yet it's still the core experience
>>736185387Extraction is a fun concept, look beyond gameplay like Marathon, Tarkov or Dark and Darker. The act of trying to get valuables out of something before a thing comes to kill you is exciting, like a bank robbery or heist movie. All it needs is a gameplay style that you enjoy and you'll literally have a blast.
>>736186347>look beyond gameplay like Marathon, Tarkov or Dark and Darkerany examples of fun extraction games?
>>736186469Personally I like Mistfall Hunters, but like I said, look beyond gameplay. The concept is good. Mission Impossible is a timeless heist movie, you can attatch any gameplay style to a heist and make it exciting. Any medium, book, movie, comic book. The extraction genre is just an extension of that, one that makes you feel the excitement of performing a heist yourself.
>>736186704>um look beyond gameplay! watch a movie!honestly not very convincing
>>736186779Small mind
actually good souls likes are so few and far between that i struggle to understand what the problem is
12 million copies sold first month stay madNintendo what microcock and snoy wont
>>736186184Nope, it can't be the core experience when it is optional and can never be experienced.
