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What's up with this... situation
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games that are pure gameplay are really boring and pointless to play
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the most gameplay-first genre imaginable is h-games because you're both playing the game and with your dick
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I like shmups though. I'm not always in the mood for them, but I do like them
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Factorio
Starsector
Minecraft
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>gameplay-first
>gameplay consists of moving a hitbox around the screen in predetermined patterns for success
Garbage genre.
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>>736180446
>predetermined
based nonplayer retard
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>>736180484
The developers made these games to be beaten. You follow the pattern designed for you like a good little goyslave.
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/v/ is sexo first
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lol
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>>736180670
lol that looks so fucking retarded, you gacha fags are hopeless
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>>736180824
tell your parents i said 'im sorry your son is gae'
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>>736180913
You aren't human, you are beasts.
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>>736180670
>fat chicks
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Do these games test your skill or are they just "memorize and execute a pattern perfectly" gookgrind?
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And this right here is why video games will never be seen as art. Most people are incapable of appreciating the elegance of gameplay, only the coat dressing that might as well be lifted wholesale from movies. In what most people see as "good" games, gameplay is just a device for storytelling, not a goal of its own, and that storytelling is inherently gimped by having to account for the player, his skill and his power fantasy.
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>>736181223
they test how fast you can memorize the pattern
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>>736181223
if you can memorize the billion different RNG, sure go ahead
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As usual, threads like these expose a very confusing paradox: despite frequenting a board dedicated to gaming, /v/ users have zero love for gaming and don't like playing games.
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>muh gameplay!
I don't give a shit about gameplay. I want to look at hot women. Gameplay is, and has always been irrelevant.
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>>736182173
The kind of autists that actually like this dogshit genre are incapable of normal conversation.
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>>736182026
>rng
>every pattern is based on an exact deterministic math formula
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>>736182453
Yeah, I always knew that all the fags spamming gachacrap and "gaming is healing" garbage actually hate playing videogames.
>>736182698
Reddit is that way, normalfag.
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>>736181223
The term gookgrind sums it up perfectly and I will be using it from now on.
These are products entirely for the japanese who tends to obsess over one game and dedicates thousands of hours on it. It has the elements to hook a jap in such as difficulty, timing, memorization, etc.
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>>736179383
Is this the only way you can get shmup threads or something? I feel like I've seen them for years
Anyway I prefer rhythm games, can't get much more basic than learning to hit the buttons better
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>>736183042
So you're saying that Japs are actually capable of loving a videogame while /v/ mindlessly consumes open world garbage, live service trash and faggot shit?
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>>736179383
i bet you love street fighter 3rd strike too right,
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>>736179383
>be gameplay first
>find a game that is gameplay-only but has shit gameplay
>consider the game pure shit
I don't see the gotcha here
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>>736183436
LOL the nips fucking love Gacha, shmups have always been a niche genre since the late 80's when they realized they could make more complex games.
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>>736179383
pure gameplay doesn't matter if the gameplay is shit
Take for example tetris - it's simple, but fun
now look at something like bullet hell games
simple? depends
fun? hardly - it's a shitty mess that's hard for they eyes, winning is simply holding shoot button while focusing 100% of your efforts on staying in some pitifully tiny "safezone" inside a cage of bullets
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>>736183671
>muh ebbin COMPLEX games for enlightened smartasses such as myself
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>>736179383
ubusuna waiting room
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>>736183436
I mean sure dude they can love resetting a stage 1000000 times because he failed to memorize that one pattern but it doesn't make it any less alienating to the non-japanese. And don't bring the open world shit I never said anything about that
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>>736183671
>LOL the nips fucking love Gacha
can confirm this. you can look up all the best shmup superplayers and 9 times out of 10, they are playing some gachaslop
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>>736179383
>play video games for 13 decades
>still shit at them
Einhänder, Axelay and Ikaruga are pretty great though



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