"we respect the source material" starter packAt least 60% of the girlbossing in these movies is completely unnecessary and just makes it more boring. There are like 10 minutes of Peach doing the exact same thing as Mario just to show that she can do what a man can do instead of having her do her own thing with her own subplot (ideally one without action so the pacing can breathe a bit)
>>736189953>watch goysludge>get goyslopit's made in hollywood it was always going to be subversive
>caring THIS much about a children's movie
>>736189953>all 3 princesses throwing haymakersit's like they never played the games or hate the games. they are supposed to be the sweetest people that are even nice to the enemies
Anita was right.
>>736190107>THIS muchIt's a screen grab and two sentences. I think you are projecting because it took only one screen grab and two sentences to trigger you. Fat feminist?
>>736189953Kek wtf
is it somehow more pozzed than the first?
>>736190170It's an entire fucking thread
>>736190107that's the only movies you should care a lot about and make sure they don't have a lot of mind poison unless you are a childless manchild
>>736189953Ok but Peach can beat up Wart in game
>>736190471A thread isn't harder to make than one post. Stop seething and find a husband
>>736190492how about parenting your own children instead of making everyone parent for you, retard
Everyone on this board keeps complaining about the "girlbossing" when the actual issue is how Bowser and Bowser Jr. have been rewritten to be completely unstable murderous psychopaths.If anything, Rosalina is WAY less competent than she should be. Bitch jobs in the first five minutes and does absolutely fucking nothing for the rest of the movie.
I’m sure there is more wrong with it than just that but who am I kidding this is /v/.
>>736189953Peach was never a Bossgirl... fuck these TTG writters.
>>736189953
>>736191319>Everyone on this board keeps complaining about the "girlbossing" when the actual issue is how Bowser and Bowser Jr. have been rewritten to be completely unstable murderous psychopaths.They're villains. How else should they act lmao
>>736191462It still being more of a Peach movie than a Mario movie and Peach being an annoying Mary Sue is unironically its biggest problem. You can give her more to do, you can make her competent, but the way they do it just feels like the typical girl power template and very unbecoming and transparent. But at least she gives Mario his kiss this time.Second biggest problem is that it's definitely too confusing and all over the place for younger audiences, especially if they aren't familiar with the games. Feels a bit like a movie for no one.
>>736190107>stop caring about kids being fed feminist brainwashing
>>736191796I haven't seen the second movie yet but my only issue with Peach in the first movie was that she was kind of a bitch. She judo-flips Mario upon meeting him, inadvertently(?) humiliates him by telling the Toads he's not important, mocks his height, and seems pretty unsympathetic to him (reasonably) freaking out about his brother being kidnapped by a giant "psycho" monster.I don't know whether they meant to make her an asshole on purpose or if she's just rude accidentally due to being socially clueless, but neither fits Princess Peach. She's meant to be intelligent and diplomatic... you know, like a princess.Having her being good at fighting is fine (see: Super Princess Peach, her roles in Smash, SMRPG, etc.)
>>736191732i've only seen the first one but bowser is too smart and cunning it it which doesn't make sense>doesn't kidnap patch but extorts her by threatening a toadok so he can just do that all day, grab some fodder toad and now peach is his little toy
>>736191732>BowserBowser is greedy proud and posessive. Hes always seeking the next mcguffin.>JrThe same but clearly doing it for validation from bowser.
>>736191732Bowser has never been murderous. At worse, he's a hard-headed asshole with no sense of boundaries who has consistently remained a good father and good king despite being a bonehead and an asshole. Junior has always been a decent kid who just looks up to his dumbass father too much and is willing to follow him backwards into hell for it, but when not directly conflicting with the main cast because he's helping out his dad he's usually fairly amicable. The movies have rewritten both of them to be murderous psychopaths. Bowser tries to mass-sacrifuce an entire kingdom in the first movie and then nearly incinerates Peach when she rebukes him. Bowser Jr.'s plan in the Galaxy movie is the active nuking of every other planet. In Galaxy it's also stated that Bowser was a shitty father and sent Jr. to boarding school for no real reason.The one consistent thing in the Mario series is that Bowser and his shenanigans are allowed to stay around SPECIFICALLY because they're not murderous. None of Bowser's schemes go much further than "beat the shit out of Mario and kidnap/marry Peach". Every time a villain takes things farther than that (i.e. every single one of the RPGs where the stakes actually do escalate to that extreme) Bowser is explicitly against it and the billain in question always dies.
>>736191998Oh yeah it's definitely still like that. Feels a bit like Joker 2 where they know what people expect and want and they purposefully do the opposite. Maybe that's the meta now or something.
>>>/tv/
>>736190107There were once good children's moviesWhen you dismiss all criticism you allow every piece of media to get worseYou are the cancer killing /v/That image you posted is just yourself
>>736192128Hollywood demands high stakes or else people cannot get invested in the plot of a film, which is redundant in the first place given the material. They believe everything should operate under the same logic of how you aren't supposed to write mystery novels where there's no murder mystery, as anything less than a horrendous crime wastes the consumer's time.
Which game could they do for a third movie?
>>736191998Modern women think having an once of grace is weakness.
What's the deal with Bowser being so conflicted in this movie?
>>736192315>There were once good children's moviesAnd let me guess, all of them released when you, yourself, were a child?
>>736192389Mario Party but it goes really, really wrong.
>>736192389It doesn't matter. They call this movie Super Mario Galaxy and it has almost nothing in common with the game of the same title.
She really comes off like a cold fish, Hell in Paper Mario she prays for you to beat Bowser.
>>736192442It makes no fucking sense. He flip-flops like three times and then the entire end of the movie feels like the writers completely forgot what they were doing with his character.
>>736192450damn, if only it were possible to watch those movies today and see that they were indeed good
>>736190561It's a 2D platformer there is no beating up. Peach is so helpless she's just standing behind Bowser Jr in the games and the way she chills with Bowser Jr and Bowser could honestly make for a good story. The movies have Mario and Luigi connect with Bowser, why not just have Bowser kidnap Peach and let them build a connection? They change her so much for no good reason
If the plot lacks any sort of internal logic and cohesion you can blame AI writing and storyboarding.
>>736191673POOOOOOOOORRRRRRNNNOOOOOOOO
>>736190107
I wonder if Miyamoto feels the same shame Todd Howard did after releasing Starfield, his self-proclaimed dream game. Like, he wanted to break into the movie business for ages, right? To see the IPs he's grown into a massive success on the big screen? Why not just make it *good*? He can smile all he likes but I doubt these films have turned out how he wanted at all.
>>736192606sunshine came the closest to a movie-like story , they should've cut away to what peach is doing between levels with jokes and dr. evil hideout style dialogues. shame sunshine was rushed
>>736189953I'm a big Nintendo Manchild and I have not watched any of the nu-movies and I watched the shitty live action one.
It's sad that any of the RPGs have a better story than a Hollywood production.
>>736190107>"If lefties in Hollywood want to brainwash your children with DEI themes and terminology you should let them! It's just a kid's movie after all! Stop noticing and let your kids be converted!!"I'll never stop noticing chud
>>736189953The relationship between Bowser and Jr. was fucking weird.I half expected the film to end with some heart to heart where Bowser convinces Jr. to stop as he steps up as a father.Having him be good for a little, then be convinced by his own son that being evil is better was a weird way of handling things. They should have just committed to the bit of it being a proper betrayal and scrapped Bowser acting nice and telling Jr. not to kill Mario and Luigi in the ship.
>>736189953Peach has been a playable character since super Mario bros 2 you retard
>>736192805You definitely have to take it with a grain of salt whatever Japs are saying, like Miyamoto about this movie or also Oda about the shitty Netflix One Piece adaptation. It's literally part of their culture to lie throught heir teeth and pretend to like things and praise them and act like everything is fine.Of course that and they make a lot of $$$.
>>736192560I think the run time was just too short to execute what they were doing with it + they didn't have a proper villain good enough to carry the end without him. It felt like they were going for Jr being unhinged and starting to go too far because of how he thought his father would want him to do all that. Then at the end it would be Bowser setting him straight and showing him how he had gone overboard and smack some sense into him.At least that's the feeling I got, but then they just had Bowser get his mojo back and take over as the villain.
>>736189953I really thought it was impossible to make her less likeable, and then they made her a special snowflake princess of space, sister of Rosalina, with super powers and magic.
>>736193058She was graceful when she did you goof.
>>736193058>literally no one said anything about her not being playable, which doesn't relate to her being portrayed as Captain Marvel in any way>this strawmanning retard out of nowhereMost obvious online marketers ever
>psyop marketing campaign to make actual criticism of a terrible movie seem like it all comes from the pov of emasculated retardsI'm fucking tired bossA not videojuegos
>>736193151Right like when she beats enemies with a frying pan in smrpg?
So are Peach/Rosalina actually long lost sisters now or were those japes?
>>736193102>At least that's the feeling I gotThat's exactly where I thought it was going, too, and then it felt like the entire writer's room had a stroke and forgot what they were doing.
>>736193101Toriyama did the same thing with DragonBall Evolution.
I now automatically discount the opinions of everyone who says "girlboss".
>>736193175Peach is violent and powerful in smash bros. Get over it you sperg.
>>736193215They are, yeah. They're also both made of stardust, whatever the fuck that means.
>>736189953If Peach is Rosalina's sister, does that mean she's a Pink... Rosalina?
>>736193221Why? I'd love to hear you articulate your opinions. I'm sure they're not pure reddit butthurt.
>>736192603>I am a completely objective observer of my own reality, unclouded by nostalgia and personal biases mmkay
>>736193210Yes, That's still girly. Movie Peach is just penis envy the character. Punching dudes & gathering the fire wood.
>>736193110>sistershonestly what's this about? can't hollywood jews allow multiple blue eyed blonde girls to exist without them being related? also it's supposed to be the peach origin story but it doesn't answer shit
>>736193221Cool. Can you get a tripcode so I can filter you forever?
>>736193324I hope soon comes a day when we euthanize autists like yourself.
>>736193309No, Peach is Pink Mario in the movies
>>736193218Yup, I'm really not sure though if it was that bad of a decision despite it feeling off during the movie. That would have been a pretty generic way to do it and sometimes subverting expectations is fine. Not saying that they executed it well, but it was a bit refreshing just like the Fox and Mario thing not turning into some forced love drama about Peach and instead was just both of them complimenting each other so the plot could move forwards
>>736193267>>736191998
>>736193314it's cringe, and jamcoded
>>736193327Why do (((they))) hate beauty so much?
>>736190107imagine animating this shit
>>736191673>endlessly aroused by your own bodyHeaven or Hell?
>>736193376In Canada you can now thanks to pinkos like you.
>>736193210Yes, that's serendipity and works perfectly for a demure-princess character>oops I happen to have my frying pan (literally a kitchen utensil lol) in my pockets so I can actually defend myself>oops I happen to have this food in my pockets>oh my dress/umbrella happens to allow me to float>oh my tears happen to defeat this enemyI don't know where this insane "PEACH WAS ALWAYS A TOUGH AS NAILS BADASS" revisionism comes from but it's the dumbest shit ever when we are talking about Olive Oyl 2
>>736193406>>736191998I agree with this assessment. They shouldn’t have had her put Mario down so much. But it does reinforce him as the underdog.
>>736193570Soul.
>>736193454>retard can't recognize aigo back to instagram
>>736192779missing the "But Sonic" square
>>736193570These movies need more inflation.
>>736193570>I don't know where this insane "PEACH WAS ALWAYS A TOUGH AS NAILS BADASS" revisionism comes from100% it comes from AGP troons. They'll seethe hard about pointing this out, but every Peach thread on this board is about how mentally deranged men went to be Peach, and get fucked. So if you critique Peach in some way, you're critiquing them, and they take that personally.
>>736193267The only Smash Bros. that has a real story is Brawl and she is a bumbling helpless baby in it 99% the time and it's a running gag how she survives with sheer luck. For example Fox saves her in Brawl--of course not really in the movie though. Also movie Fox was cool at first but him just posing and acting cool the whole time actually ended up pretty cringe.
>>736192779>an adaptation movie being for the fans is somethow a bad thingshalom rabi
>>736193887Well funnily enough the movies are the Peach critique and seem to have a problem with what she really is like for 40 years
>>736193570They're the same people who lie and say "April O'Neil was always black".
>>736193940Doesn't feel like fans at all desu. Still not sure what they were thinking with the nature-bound Kongs being the originators of kart racing. I guess Funky is a thing but they didn't even bother making him a real character
>>736192420So she has no grace... But does she have any style?
>>736193887The AGPeach posters don't seem to mention her feats/powerlevel at all though. If anything they play up her uselessness and depict her as a dumb bimbo who can barely talk due to their submissiveness kink, which is also inaccurate to her character (just in the totally opposite direction to the movies).
Why has peach never used star power up
>even the cute nurturing granny bee is a bitch in the movie and portrayed in a way that she could defeat fucking Bowser and enslaves himOnly the goyest cattly goyim defend this shit.
>>736194280Women can only be toxic men now.
>>736189953Nintendo are retarded for waiting 30 years to make a 3D movie and then make it a feminist's wet dream.
>>736194280Looks like they made her 3 times bigger. Is she the Thanos of the Mario universe now lol
>>736192779you forgot the "it sold billions, so it must be good" defense
>>736194280
>>736194479You literally crawl all over her body in the game, she's the same size as there
>>736190107>Imagine caring about things you grew up with and wanting kids today to have the same thing, hah!
>>736194280Is Rosalina at least nice? She has to at least be nice to her own Lumas, right?
>>736194280>>736194542OK this is actually awful.
>>736192779here a better image
>>736192128>None of Bowser's schemes go much further than "beat the shit out of Mario and kidnap/marry Peach".There have been plots in the games that have him doing terrible stuff that aren't those things, like trying to take over other kingdoms/the world.
>>736190107When you have kids of your own (never), you will understand
>>736194561>>736194542>bowser only as big as her handEither they made her bigger or Bowser smaller
>>736194604She is very sweet and motherly to her lumas yes
This is Hollywood we're talking about. You know what they do and what they're about, right? They're the same kind of people as Epstein. Hollywood doesn't allow sweet, vulnerable, feminine women who men want to protect to exist in entertainment because a society of women who are tricked into thinking they are strong and independent, and think male protection is somehow an insult, is a society of women much much susceptible to predators. It makes decent men much less competitive, and it makess women much easier to manipulate and rape. At its core, that's the whole reason why male feminists exist, that's why the harder its pushed, the more parasites grow stronger at the expense of most men and women, and that's why Princess Peach is nothing like Princess Peach in the movies.
>>736194814Not really. Most of the ones where that's the case are super early games like Mario 3 where it's treated as a sort of side-objective to getting Peach, and even among those he never does anything more hostile than "turn someone into a different species" or "cram someone in a jar". The only notable exception is (funny enough) Galaxy, but he>doesn't capture a sentient being>doesn't cause direct physical harm to anyone besides marioAnd his goal, while insane (remaking the universe for Peach) is at such a hilarious scale that it's hard to interpret it as intentionally genocidal, especially since the machine goes off in the ending anyways and everyone is fine afterwards.
>>736191942The problem is now that you've correctly identified that it's fed feminist brainwashing you're going to proceed to do literally nothing about it except whine on /v/
>>736195056In 3D World he's trying to take over the Sprixie Kingdom and in Wonder he's trying to take over the Flower Kingdom.
>>736195056>>736195143Galaxy's intro also has him opening fire on the Toads' town and Odyssey's beginning establishes he bombed the shit out of the hat people's town, seemingly just to be an asshole.
>>736193210Yes Peach fighting isn't a problem, Smash already captured it fine. She just needs to fight with magic grace, whimsy, and a little bit of cute clumsiness. Not like she's some hardened badass. She's not Leela from Futurama.
>>736195257>She just needs to fight with magic grace, whimsy, and a little bit of cute clumsiness.And most importantly, with her big fat ass.
>>736195039Did Hollywood make Super Smash Bros?
>>736193472>>736191673What AI is this lmao
>>736195338Are you retarded, or just pretending?
>>736195370It's always this.
>>736195370I accept your concession.
It's happening again! IT'S HAPPENING AGAIN!
>>736194604She's girlbossing and low-diffing a huge robot, then only gets captured because she is protecting Lumas (similar to how Peach can only lose when saving others) and then the rest of the movie is her being held captive and occasionally threatening BowserI expected a lot more stronk girl shit from her especially with Brie Larson voicing her but I guess the plot needing her to be the damsel (so Peach can save her, not Mario) prevented thatNot single-handedly ruining the movie but obviously not faithful to the games. If she was that capable in the games Mario would be useless in Galaxy 1 and 2
>>736195506this actually is exactly what happens the whole time
>>736195143Those are primarily because Peach being a playable character means he needs to do something else, and again, none of his bullshit ever gets outright psychopathically murderous like in these terrible films.
>>736195506>screaming "MEN" when she lands>shuddering and flexing her musclesOh fuck she's gone into heatRUN FOR YOUR LIVES
>>736195528These movies don't even let Mario be the hero of his own story, it's always Peach. Mario is just the comic relief assist who gets handed a win by Peach at the end because his name is in the title.
>>736194542You know the funniest thing is? Imagine how the Bowser from Inside Story would take this. Alright, she's bigger, so what? I lifted castles and flung them into space just to make an statement. Bowser is a mix between John Cena, Dr Stange and Godzilla.
>>736195257I don't even think that's the problem, but her action scenes come at the expense of everyone else.
>>736191319>Bitch jobs in the first five minutes and does absolutely fucking nothing for the rest of the movie.Just like Mario Galaxy.And Mario Galaxy 2.
>>736195686he beated bowser in the first movie
>>736195792That too. She's both radically OOC and has to always supercede everyone else.
>>736195641You joke but She-Hulk is legit a serial rapist in the comics.
>>736193267Peach in Smash attacks you with a frying pan, an umbrella, turnips, her ass, uses Toad as a meat shield, and her final smash is doing a dance that causes you to go to sleep.On top of the fact that the only 2 times Smash had a story mode, Peach gets kidnapped at the start of both.
>>736195848He already said Peach handed him the win, she gave him the power-up he needed to beat him. Then Peach passed judgement on him and put him in the jar. In the games Mario doesn't need a power-up to defeat Bowser.
>>736195848With the use of a Power Star...He didn't even beat Bowser fair & square.
>>736195338IT'S A PARTY FIGHTING GAME YOU FUCKING RETARD. A fucking Piranha Plant, Wii Fit Trainer, Zelda, Duck Hunt and this girl dog from Animal Crossing are playable characters in it. And in the 2D Marios where you can pick Peach you can also pick a fucking Toad, does this mean Toad should be able to do what Mario does in the movie? Well he isn't. These are optional skins, not canon featsYou shouldn't allow yourself to ever be this brain damaged and even make this post
Bowser Jr. feels more like Bowser than Bowser himself; at one point I thought Bowser was going to betray his own son.
People are still white knighting for movie Peach?Holy fuck give it a rest she's a girlbossing Mary Sue & a cold fish she's nothing like game Peach. God I hate living in this Gynocentric shithole of a planet.
>>736194542Wasn't the whole fucking point of Mario Galaxy that once Bowser is not up against either Mario or Yoshi he can rule undisputed so he went to space to test that out and dominated basically everything until he came back to take that one planet with that one princess he could not let go.
Well companies want men and women to work and consume the same shit now. Nothing is for boys anymore, everything is for everyone and thereby for no one. Nintendo won't be satisfied until this reads 50%/50% for every IP.
Unlike Nintendo and Illumination, I think sweet and vulnerable feminine women are full persons who deserve to exist and he protected.
>>736196231BotW/TotK did irreparable damage to Zelda
>>736196268Turning Peach into a flawless superhero is actually very anti-women, but leftists and feminists are mostly dumb
>>736189953>the last thing chud sees
20 bucks that Fox's Dad will be the real villain in his movie.
>>736195528>(so Peach can save her, not Mario)A lot of propaganda in this movie is actually surprisingly subtle and subversive. It's no longer just Bo Peep getting rid of her dress type of stuff.
>>736196557Not particularly subtle but you are correcr
>>736195121>fedposting
>>736190107Everyone on Reddit, 4chan, Twitter, and Discord shares one brain cell, and it’s overheating over a kids’ movie. Total embarrassment.
>>736196557The first movie was like that too, Peach did all the traditionally masculine things, Teaching Mario, gathering firewood, Saving Mario & Toad from falling in Kongland. She only did her dress hover for a microsecond.
>>736195121What do you expect me to do about being outnumbered 100 to 1 by NPC goyim who agree with the brainwashing? Who do I go shoot and how do I do that without getting put in a cage afterward?
>>736192990Not what you told Anita Sarkeesian.
> her parasol is now a present from Mario that she uses for everything> actually acts like she is actually interested in Mario> Luigi does more shit than she does in the movie they kind of corrected the girl boss shit in the first movie its a shame the movie is still kind of meh and loaded with too many member berries scenes
Is Mario actually shown to be at least somewhat better than Peach this time?
>>736190364id love to fuck her in that outfit
>>736192450Well before that, actually
>>736191319>Bowser and Bowser Jr. have been rewritten to be completely unstable murderous psychopaths.Honestly an improvement.
>>736196836he does stuff but all the important parts of the movie is done by peach
>>736189953>>736196368Yeah it's just reinforcement of their spoiled princess sun goddess.
>>736192765What?
>>736189953>it's okay for girls to be violentI hate this trope.
>>736196738>Nooo stop noticing
Posting oldies but goodies.
