which predatory mechanic is the worst?
>>736203341From least to worst:>Grinding>FOMO>DLC>Dailies>Gacha>Battle Pass
>>736203341Chapter releases.
>>736203341>which predatory mechanic is the worst?It doesnt matter cuz they all always come packaged together
>>736203341In gacha you get all of them except for DLCAnyway DLC is the least bad because it doesn't stop you from pirating everything while the others necessarily mean it's live service garbage
>>736203341The most egregious to me are those combined. It's rare to see all six at once, but BP+FOMO and GACHA+FOMO are near ubiquitous today while also being the most damning. The "best" of those is probably Grinding, but it's rare too to see an instance these days where Grinding isn't accompanied by some paid method to skip it or speed it up considerably. "Live" (((Service))) is of course the real culprit to blame at the end of the day since it's a release model promising minimal developer effort and content for maximum player engagement and money
>>736203341>how dare you expect me to actually play video games!
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>>736203341FOMO is the worst as it screws over people who buy the game after a while.
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>>736203341Grinding and dailies aren’t bad. DLC is only bad when the base game is shit without it or they’re almost the same price as base game. Battlepasses are pretty shitty and goes hand in hand with FOMO, though if you don’t really care about having everything then the effect of both is lessened. Gacha is literally microtransactions but you have a % chance of getting shit you actually want, it’s by far the worst which explains why there are so many.
"If you don't login today you miss these rewards" sounds like FOMO to me. It's funny because Gacha has all these even DLC because now most have skins for characters you already rolled for so you get to roll for the character and then you pay for the skins.
name a game without any of these
>>736207164minecraft
>>736203341Irrelevant because all new games are every single one of those combined now.
>>736207164RE9 until the inevitable dlc comes out
>>736208327mobs have loot tables, enchantments are random, fishing is random, bartering is random
>>736203341Yes, also paying to do those shit like in those yearly sports games.
>>736208542I feel like random drops and events aren't gacha/grindy if the drops aren't extremely grindy to get what you want and therefore predatory
>>736203341Don't gacha games have literally all of these?
>>736203341paid modsi looking at you fuck face minecraft modders
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>>736203341all of the first 5 are related to fomo
>>736203341gambling, easily.
>>736208687Why is there a twitter handle in the corner Get that shat out of there
>>736208373It’s a good system we’ve been using in the real game for awhile. Rich people get instant access, the poors get delayed access or never get to have access. Old food gets marked down so the poors can eat a sandwich LOG IN. The bus is just as good as the battle pass car reward LOG IN. Poors will never get a house LOG IN BOYS THIS IS IT. You can summon GMs in this game by shooting up an elementary school.
>>736203341FOMO gachaUnlimited gacha you will generally get what you wanted eventually, even if it takes a long timeFOMO single purchase at least you can make a decision if the set price is ok with you or notLimited FOMO gacha just pushes you to be desperate to roll and roll, that's the worst feeling, and that's how you get those "10000$ spent on the banner and she didn't come home" compilations
>>736208808shit i did not know anon, i fixed it
>>736206846Personal favorite is when the dlc fucks with the main game somehow (spell or item or build changes) that you’d already purchased making it nearly unplayable, but the servers are still active because tons of people can’t buy the dlc and just keep gaming in the old expansion lol. And this is like the poverty entertainment, wait until you hear what they did to your mom’s butthole. Yeah this worlds somewhere between “complete embarrassment” and “kill god and send him to the shadow realm”
Gambling in any form that involves real money is inherently degenerate.DLC is the least bad because it's only predatory by choice. Once in a while a game will get a proper expansion pack, that is perfectly fine even if most DLCs are just MTX slop.
>>736208975Gambling is one of my highest sources of income. It’s pretty easy, you just need to bet higher if you’re struggling. That way you win a lot more.
>>736203609I'd swap gacha and the battle passlootboxes were genuinely cancer
>>736203341Battle Pass:>the free track is ass>even the paid track sucks because you're still waiting on rewards>some games make this worse by including heavy grinding, even when paid, meaning it's effectively a battle pass, dailies, grindslop and FOMO all at once>sometimes there's more battle passes, or they have a short duration forcing grinding and FOMO>some battle passes are okay though, like before Dauntless went stupid, or Warframe's god-tier battle pass systemDailies:>are often fine>awful when you need to catch them 28 days of the month without fail or you lose the whole thing (fuck you, Star Trek Online)>if the game's good enough, logging in daily is probably fine and not an issue>forces you to be a regular>sometimes you can pick the rewards or it just gives you a generic special currency for a daily shop, which makes it not so badGrindslop:>depends entirely on how bad the grind isGacha:>despite being legally required to state the odds, it always seems worse>game often hard-locks progress behind rolls because you can't get strong enough without it>characters you like might not have an SSSR version so you're stuck making a team you don't like to keep up>if people get too strong, the devs make the game harder and add a new rarity>often includes heavy FOMO, grindslop, DLC, dailies and battle passes alongside it>drains people dry of money then goes EOS to then do it againDLC:>some should be in the base game>you can generally just buy the shit you want>you buy it, you get it, no strings attached>can be expensive>sometimes mods require themFOMO:>locks content arbitrarily>usually forces your attention away from holidays>easy to miss because you might be away during the holidays>if you miss it, it's shockingly time/money expensive to get>usually ends up being the most unbalanced content after a whileWorst is gacha by a long shot.As more time passes, the more I'm ""okay"" with DLC most of the time.
DLC is the least bad because it doesn't necessarily have to be bad at all, you could just be getting more of a finished game without needing to buy a full-on sequelGacha is easily the worst, spending massive amounts of money risking not being able to get the thing you want without pity mechanics should never have been a thing, it just tricks people by fucking with the dopamine released when you gamble
>>736208542you don't pay extra real money for any of that though
>>736209459Wait until you see the other Gacha you lost lololol. It’s actually so serious that when you lose Gacha in this game they need to call in armed soldiers to prevent a rebellion.
>>736204678dlc
>>736207164All of them before 2017
>>736203341warframe has all of these lol (I love warframe)
>>736208542>he can't read enchantment tablesngmi
>>736203341Grinding, because grinding automatically invalidates any fun a game could have.
>>736203341FOMO is the root of all evil, anyone picking a different answer is retarded