What's your opinion on devs letting streamers influence and make decisions regarding game balance?
It's a tough position where of fucking course you ask the guys who played 10,000 hours of your game when the rest of the world moved on from it, but it's also a very small sample size of maniacs with likely no dissenting voices to reign in their most outrageous ideas. The entire community is divided enough on stuff like Enigma and when you can only ask several of your most dedicated content creators, you're basically flipping a coin and letting 4 yes vs. 3 no determine what millions of players will have to put up with. Secret playtesting of an expansion that hadn't been announced was one thing. Now that the cat is out of the bag, they need community polls and more public test servers instead of just shadowdropping what they've been working on.
i don't think developers should care at all about what any player thinks
good way to ruin a game
>>736204982I remember watching this guy do Diablo 2 speedruns like ten years ago. Didn't even know he was still making content honestly.
>>736204982He is a disaster to d2r, even ginger or that french guy have objectively superior knowledge and arguments what to change or rebalance certainly NOT him
game balance? diablo 2? wat? why? who cares.
>>736204982I may be wrong but I think I saw his gf(?) in a MattKC (the lego island guy) video. This is not as autistic as noticing a jewtuber who makes videos about fountain pens and birds being friends with Elliot Page because of a random pic I saw on /tv/
>>736204982Depends on the decisions.Warlock is a fucking trainwreck of a class and who ever had the idea to put him into D2 should be blacklisted from this industry for all eternity.
>>736210834qrd on warlock?
>>736204982>speedrunners in charge of balancing a casual loot grinder gamedoesn't sound good to me
>>736210884Can farm hell in /players 8 with basic bitch gear you find after playing self found for 3 hours.
>>736207098this
>>736210884He's just too good at basically everything.>can wield almost ANY weapon one-handed with a shield>has a passive skill that reduces the weapon's requirements>throwing skills that are basically Multiple Shot with that weapon>extremely good magic/fire caster tree that puts bone necro and fire druid to shame>tons of passives and new items that increase fire/magic damage and reduce enemy fire/magic resistance to make him even stronger>decent summons, but most of them are just consumed for temporary passives>can capture any enemy demon in the game (besides act bosses and ones that trigger stuff when they die), keep them between games, and keep whatever modifiers they had, so everyone is just farming ones with Cursed and Fanaticism, Might, or Conviction, and passives make them strong enough that they can just tank ubers and pretty much never die
For me it's ninomae ina'nis
>>736207098/thread
>>736211270>>736211491nevermind didn't see >keep them between gameswhen I was skimming
>>736211491It persists like Iron Golem. It's yours forever unless it dies, you bind a different one, or respeccing/removing gear takes the skill to level 0.
>>736209132Guy's a legit autist. 10 years of basically daily streaming shit like "Doing a quick 3000 Lower Kurast runs haha". My personal vision of hell.
>>736210940>>736211270Also he doesn't care about any immunities whatsoever.Introduced in the same patch where they made sunder charms impossible to get.
Ken sure could use more buffs in SF6
>>736211708>3000I have only done a single Lower Kurast run and that one run was enough to make me want to kill myself. I can't fathom forcing myself to do 100, let alone 3000. At least in Chaos/Baal runs you're forced to interact with mobs and players if you're the host.
>>736211985It's entirely an solo offline thing. You can't do efficient LK runs online. You might as well cheat in whatever you want offline.Running LK makes 0 sense.
>>736204982Games balanced around one or two popular streams fucking sucks and kills games. Don't do it.
>>736204982>Devs letting influencers change their game>Devs letting reddit change their game>Devs letting their mother change their gameAt least it's public I guess. Twittards have someone to blame. Now the dev gets a partial pass on all the hate if it flops.
>>736212097Pretty much. >hey guise i found this 0.0001% rare drop item when i was playing offstream trust 4 trust t4t Jamella epic 4 the win!Singleplayer enjoyer opinions should never be taken into account when balancing for closed b.net. How is this faggot even credible or taken seriously?
>>736212097Not having a consistent map annoys me too much to play online.
>>736204982You get MHWilds.Every streamer + youtuber crying about MHWorld + Rise got the absolute worst MH to date. And no they did not improve the game with updates, they made it worse making 5min fight become 14m fight by bloating the hp values is not good game design nor it is fixing the game.
>>736204982Depends on the streamer and the dev. It's better than asking a bunch of soulless executives or trannies who never played the game at all, but it's also possible to fuck up a game for anyone but the streamer.
>>736204982At least in his case, he has more hours in the game than 99.9% of players. Whether that gives him an accurate perspective on what exactly makes something good or not is another story. The issue becomes more of how much of a backbone the devs have and if THEY know what's best to implement among suggestions. Most live-service devs tend not to know what's best for their own games.
>>736210834Warlock really reminds me of release Leroy in Tekken 7. A character designed by someone who knows what is good in the game but can't design, so you end up with a class that is a mix of all the good stuff from other classes but barely an identity of its own.
>>736204982i think there are very few games where this happens but i think there are very many people that think it does and flail and kick and scream about something that isn't happening and their anger is impotently directed in the wrong direction
It killed Destiny 2. So pretty low.
sometimes.
It's best when the devs are in a straight up arms race with their players
>>736207098True.t: battlefield 6
>>736212664A summoner warlock does have an identity. But it's like a good version of a druid, who can't even have a reliable Amplify Damage source because of the ravens.Though certain curses with different types of effects should stack in general.
>>736211708>My personal vision of hell.You really hate playing vidya THAT much, huh?
>>736204982>devs do adjustment patches due to community feedback >no proof of community feedback in sight >game ends up worse in some ways because of it because they fucked up the implementation and never fixed it
>>736212848bf6 died because the major postlaunch focus was battle royale which they practically almost promised to not put in the game during all the prerelease marketing and hype
>>736213048>ask ecelebs what game they want>battle royale bro>make BR>flopsLMAO
>>736209132>I remember sucking dickWhat an odd thing to say. You e-celeb obsessed losers are funny that's what funny.>I watched a man play videogamesWhy?You gay?Yeah your gay.
>>736212848BF6 was doomed anyway. The only reason EA wanted it made was to fill in the market void left by CoD becoming irrelevant.
>>736204982I cannot think of a single game where balance decisions being driven by internet communities improved it.
>>736204982only makes sense if they're game devs balancing pro level games and the streamers are the prosdoesn't make sense for diablo 2 where there's a spectrum of desire
>>736204982GIVE ME BACK MY SUNDER CHARMS YOU CLOSETED RETARD
