What happened to /v/'s activity the last two weeks? It went from like 50-60k daily posts which is already bad post-hack numbers, but it seems like it's declined further
>he doesnt knowdo NOT delete your cookies
ban 4chan charts threads
jeet devs did something wrong and sometimes I get a range ban message.I just don't bother posting anymore
>>736208879The captcha and backend updates from the maintenance really fucked over proxies and mobilefags
>>736208879Bunch of thirdies got range banned.
I am an american on the east coast with GOOGLE FIBER INTERNET and my WIFI is fucking rangebanned when I have NEVER BEEN BANNED ON MY WIFI BEFOREWHYWHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHYWHY DO I HAVE TO VERIFY MY FUCKING EMAIL TO POST YOU FUCKING NIGGERRRRRRSSSSSSS
>>736208879Mario movie was a flop and Palword just mogged shitendo in the courts so the usual South American, trans-friendly Nintendo Adult discord server that shills on /v/ have been afraid to post
>why is posting activity returning back to when things were great?>HOW COULD THIS BE HAPPENING NOOOOO
>>736208879site activity has been on the decline for ages now, the hack didn't even really impact anything in the long run. it's just an old archaic site that is bleeding users without attracting new ones. the userbase is confrontational and miserable to interact with, the jannies are in an arms race with proxy spammers in a contest to see who can make the site less usable, and 90% of the content is lifted from other platforms. so why would anybody come here unless they've been here for so long that they can't imagine themselves anywhere else?
>>736208879world is at warnew captchaage verification law shit
>>736208940NTA, My browser deletes cookies every time i close it. The new captchas are honestly not that bad. Waiting for a minute can be annoying sometimes
>>736208879I know the only one who can save /v/
>>736208879The missing activity is entirely polfagging and an assortment of shitposting.
>>736209293I don't get why /a/ hasn't seen the sizeable decline in activity as some of the other boards. Feels like they've been coasting between 20k-35k posts for years now
>>736209293>why would anybody come here unless they've been here for so long that they can't imagine themselves anywhere else?No Website for Old Anons.
>>736209081I can't post on my laptop. I'm range banned on there. But my phone and desktop are fine. It's a little annoying.
There have been times at night I've wondered why a thread could stay up for 2 hours without activity and I check the post rate and it's at like 20 per minute
>>736208879Mods are faggots basically. You can't even discuss anything anymore because schizos just bot and spam every thread. The only threads allowed are twitter screenshots, eceleb and porn threads.I don't even post a lot anymore, not worth it because thread quality has gone down the shitter and mods just protect the bad actors, I got a warning last week for reporting a bot. Also who the fuck wants to deal with a dumb captcha, it's annoying
>>736208879Because who honestly still comes here? There's nothing appetizing about coming to /v/ anymore, let alone 4chan as a whole. The hack forced people to fuck off to other websites and once they saw how much greener the grass was they never came back. If this site got nuked again tomorrow, you'd only be missing out on twitter screenshot threads and week old gaming news.
The answer to why 4chan is declining is always the moderation. When it isn't non-existant and schizos/bots/shitposters run rampant then mods are banning people for behavior that isn't even rule breaking.
>>736209538there are a few almost month old threads, you barely get any replies unless you're watching the most popular current thing and there are a lot of barely on topic threads, maybe i didn't see it before but it seems that even if the rate hasn't changed much the quality definitely has
>>736208879talking about video games here either gets you no replies or if it does you get banned
>>736209787>Post on thread>People come in and start shitting it with porn images>Thread killed>Get 2 day ban for "off topic posting">Catalog clearly shows more porn threadsQuit visiting for a solid month after that.
>>736208879Concerning
>>736209870Number small. Why number small? Bad things when number small...
The truth is that an anonymous, (comparatively) unmoderated website leads to an extremely low quality of discussion and attracts the most undesirable users possible. Shitposting is incredibly easy and one or two people could quite easily ruin entire an entire general by themselves. It doesn’t help that the people not actively trying to make things worse are either completely schizophrenic, autistically obsessed over incredibly minor things, or just compulsively nihilistic towards everything
>>736209293The man made us a part of the machine before we ever knew it.
I visited /lit/ the other day and there was a thread that made me feel like I was posting on old 4chan again. It was wonderful.The kind where everyone is definitely trolling together, but they are posting as if they are being genuine. It was a thread about people licking their fingers to turn pages, and it devolved into completely insane methods instantly.>i use my tears of boredom>i spit on the pages directly>i lick my girlfriend's toes and she turns the pages>i use my precum
>>736209826My personal favorite is>don't break any rules>but somehow I pissed off a wandering mod personally>get hit with 3 day ban with no post attached as rule offendingAtleast with an off topic ban you can post on other boards but when you royally piss off a mod for whatever the fuck they hit you with the 3 day site wide usually for racism.
>>736208879they keep deleting uma threads unironically. Whenver one is up it's the fastest thread on /v/ by a country mile. Especially around now when CMs are going.
This April fools was eye opening for me, they didn't put any effort into it and me as a pass user got shit on basically. Mine expires next month, I'm done putting up with these asshole mods and I'm done with this crap.
>>736210170Deleting gacha threads make the site better, /vg/ should do this as well
>>736210170mlp trauma is still real for those of us that remember it
>>736210170/vg/ was designed for fast threads, you belong there
>>736210170>mods actually doing their jobs and deleted generals that should be on /vg/I don't believe you>inb4 usual cope about how umafags are on topic and are being unfairly targeted (threads are identical to the /vg/ general)
Did we not have an april fool's prank this year? Bleak if true
>>736210243>>736210254>>736210257>literally the only way to discuss actual video games>durrr go to vgRetard.
>>736209684>>736209207i am reasonably sure rangeban message is a placeholder for naughty posts or suspicious (read: not goyed up with google cloudflare spud) fingerprintschanging image-attachments, browsers, or some other shit may or may not allow you to post with negligible efforts>t. shitposting on company time
>>736210243They make it significantly worse when they're the only threads that actually discuss the fucking games.>>736210254>>736210257You've never seen the thread culture you have no idea what you're talking about. The /v/ threads are ontopic discussing the game, making OC and giving advice to new players.The general is a weird elitist shithole where seaniggers larp as the horse girls and post life updates. Like it's fine if you hate gacha I don't care, but don't speak on shit you don't understand.
>>736210145on /tg/ I once said Wizard of the Coast were acting like Jews for making a $1000 booster pack that didn't even have usable cards in it. Week ban for "racism".
>>736210304I don’t play gambling games, I couldn’t possibly be as retarded as you
>>736210254/vg/ was designed to stop the catalog being flooded with one game, sounds familiar?
>>736210243>>736210254>only slow ass, no interesting threads are allowed.>but my favorite coomer slop game can have 24/7 threads even though they are just image dumps.The reason this site is dying right here, no videogame talk allowed on the videogame board.
>gachanig thinks anybody cares about his retarded thread dramanobody does, sometimes mods do things right
bring back 2006 slow /v/
>>736208879unironically started using twitter more since half of the threads made here are just twitter screenshots to begin with
For me it's that schizos are left unchecked and just ruin any thread of games I'm interested in. Sometimes it's just one that always seems to be online no matter when a game comes up for discussion.
>>73621038010 years ago trying to insist mobile games belong on /v/ would've gotten you laughed out of the room
>>736209081>>736209095Might want to look into changing your user agent, it's what fixed it for me on kuroba. But it's not guaranteed
>>736208879GoodIf all the normalfag masses fuck off we can go back to the good niche board we used to have and talk about good games instead of AAA slop and goycattle consoomers bait
>umafags burn through 4 fucking threads a day if they aren't being culled by mods>cry about being "unfairly targeted" and "on topic video game discussion">*looks inside thread*>1:1 identical to a /vg/ general>you could literally pull up the /vg/ general and an "on topic video game discussion" thread for umamusume and no one would be able to tell the difference
>>736210436The only schizos we have here are light work. If you let that detour you then you don't belong here. The /a/ schizos have been going for a decade+ in certain threads or are here daily in every iteration of said thread for modern ones. The "schizos" on /v/ are faggots who seethe in gacha threads, 1 guy who hates new vegas, and 1 guy who loves final fantasy. We have a few ritualposters whos threads just die immediately as well.
>>736210502Same shit for master duel
>>736210505Okay cool I didn't ask. They ruin every thread and are still left to run wild here. I don't care about /a/.
>>736210352Other games can have 24/7 threads yet only the games they don't like get deleted 1 minute after being created. That's how it is.
>>73621044710 years ago "mobile games" weren't better than AAA releases, available on PC and actually fun to play. How about instead of being a disingenuous nigger you fuck off back to whatever shithole you crawled out of to larp here.
>>736210339/tg/ easily has some of the worst moderation. Its probably the best example of why 4chan's moderation is so bad because its a digital fiefdom operating under some faggot mod's personal list of rules you are never told.
>>736210557>muh AAAEvery time. Fuck off, gacha subhuman. You play a shitty nongame made to leech money from retards.
>>736210502Yea again you don't know what you're talking about. Just speculation on your part without actually being part of either boards culture. That's the problem with you retarded ESL phoneposting zoomerniggers. You come here and pretend you know anything while just regurgitating shit other people have said.
>>736208879Are we really doing a steam charts thread for /v/
>>736210557>fun to play>play
>>736208879>thread vidya related>*cricket*>thread flavor of the week shitpost or porn>spammed by schizos and bots
>>736210584you say this when almost every modern console/pc game has a cash shop and mtx. you don't even believe what you say.
>>736210584I have over 10,000 hours in non gacha games on steam. I play real games unlike you who just seethes about them. >>736210613>frognigger>retarded statement name a better duo.
>>736210502>uma is an abbreviation for the horse gacha gameOh, I assumed everyone was talking about that monkey soup picture from 10 years ago.
>>736208879Toubi honest my threads are often deleted (+3 days ban) for nothing now.
>>736209797/a/'s quality has actually improved from last year desu
the board is dying because there are too many normalniggers posting about shit games like Gaylo, Crimson Dessert, Arc Raiders, Marathon etc. and too many SEAnigs dumping porn, ERPing and spamming gacha threads. /v/ used to be a board for video game otaku, not anymore.>>736209207>GOOGLE FIBER INTERNETwhy do you think this matters you tech illiterate goon>>736210380>>736210557>>736210337>>736210304>>736210170>>>/vmg/you have a dedicated board. there is no reason to post that garbage on /v/
Someone want to explain to me why culling the masses here is a bad thing? What makes you so upset that we're going back to non mainstream numbers?
>>736210595>gachafaggot calling anyone else a newfagThe irony to me is that anyone who browsed /v/ prior to 2016 wouldn't touch gacha shit with a 10 foot pole
>>736210337general fags have such massive persecution complex it's frankly unbelievabledoubly so when they (rightfully) complain about /vg/ but fail to see that they just bring the cancer with them>>736210557have you heard of vidya - mobile board? or is it not fast enough for you dopamine addicts, gotta up the speed until you reach shitpost board levels huh?
>>736210685because it's becoming sharty 2.0 but bigger.
>>736210685Sane posters left because of the garbage schizo ones is the thing
I've been here since 2007 and this place has sucked since 2012, but I'm not going anywhere else
there has been lots of layoffs at indian bot farms recently
>>736210685When you remove hylic normalfags all you have left are joyless troglodytes, schizos, and the like
>>736210719Damn that's pretty much my exact timelines too I actually got here around like 2006 but I was still underage& then and didn't post until 2007We're here forever.
>>736210289we did it was the captcha thing
>>736210678>>736210701>/vmg/ Yea I've seen this before, and you niggers have been told exactly why that board is dead. The tranitors don't allow threads on games they dislike killing the board on arrival. >>736210690You weren't here in 2016 or you'd know for a fact about the boom of shit like FGO and GBF, as well as continuation of kancolle despite it not being a traditional gacha game. don't type to me newfag
>>736210223>he unironically buyzored a 4chan passDon't blame the mods, it's not they're fault yore a idiot.
Two thingsOne, the mods and admins deliberately created an environment for culture warriors to call home which slowly eroded the site culture over years. It's not that bad during funposting days like april fools but you should really take a hard look at the catalog some time. At least half of it will be bitching about something like marathon and the threads stay up forever as the same group of people play telephone and phlog themselves into a frenzy by talking about twitter screencaps they are too afraid to actually reply to on their god forsaken site.Two, the mods and admin are seemingly powerless to stop schizos which drive people away.It's frankly miserable to be here the majority of the time and I'm asking myself more and more why I even come back.
>>736210139I get what you mean.It feels like people are afraid to look stupid for the sake of joking around, so instead of indulging absurd premises they try to shut them down.The classic>shitty paint drawing of something insane>"why wouldn't this work?"is no longer about collectively increasing the level of absurdity but get very smarky>"erm, its not realistic at all are you stupid?!?!"replies instead
As soon as IP count got removed, I know it's going to shit and infested by bot
>>736209408>>736209081The new cookies are tied to spur.us and mcl.io, if you see "you got rage banned" it's either real (check by yourself with a phone) or a fake one due to this implementedhttps://desuarchive.org/g/thread/108181785/#108181967Now you ger fingeprinted more harder, all to fight back proxies and spammers.
>>736210741But at least no more normalfags
>>736210223Which boards do you use?
>>736210719>since 2012
>>736210762FGO and GBF barely had a presence on /v/. Hell gacha in general had virtually 0 presence back then. Kancolle and Azur Lane had a "presence" in the form of ERP threads when the /trash/ posters would get bored and come to /v/.
>>736209684Same. It's made me have to be a phone poster even though I'm in the minority of people who uses a desktop and prefers it. Hate that I can't post from it anymore without giving an email address
>>736210321I went through a few different things to try and fix my laptops range ban like different browsers and doing deep cookie cleans. So far no luck so I just gave up on posting here when I'm in bed using it. And as far as the rangeban message being a placeholder for something goes I did read on a /g/ thread that it's half the time actually full of shit. I forget the specifics just some kind of bad luck. In a weird way I guess it's good. It's a mental break.
>>736210678>you have a dedicated board. there is no reason to post that garbage on /v/Then fucking die, retard. Are you mongrels actually 2 IQ? You cry about the board being off-topic and lacking activity and then autistically reject on-topic discussion. Kill yourself in real life.
>>736210819Man I remember Order of Eclessia coming out the same day or week they said the LHC was turning on and we joked it would be the last game we ever played ironically enough it was the last castlevania game at least we played. Until literally just a month ago, 14 years. Who'd have saw that coming?
>>736210678Crimson Desert is /v/ core you pleb poser
>>736210891Gacha isn’t videogames
>>736210891Talking about candy crush is technically on topic, but it's not shit anyone wants here
>>73620887990% of /vg/ activity is MohammedGPT
>>736210823Kancolle isn't even a gacha and was contained on /jp/ where it belonged.
>>736210839Shit is beyond busted, I can't even verify my email, I just get a message that the link has expired every time, oh well, good thing I managed to build up a few reaction images on my phone
>>736210685just yesterday a shill thread with an AI generated article in the OP almost reached bump limit. 4chan isn't culling shit but everyone with an IQ above 100
>>736208879The sites getting old, zoomers won't come here because of the stigmas, and older users are either adapting to discord/social media or just quitting Internet conversations all togetherSad times we're in
>>736210819did the world actually end in 2012
>>736208879>/v/ is floppingoh no no no no bros
>>736210891both /vg/ and /vmg/ were created specifically for you, go and stay go
>>736210289
>fool prank is so shit and easly skippable it barely registered a bump in activityDead Nigger Baby board and site.btw /v/ hit 4 NEW LOWS in activity even lower than post hack numbers these last two weeks and half./v/ NEEDS toby to release the new ch LIKE YESTERDAY
>>736210685Man normalfags really did ruin everything
>>736210839>even though I'm in the minority of people who uses a desktop and prefers it.Jesus fucking christ, there are people who PREFER phoneposting? What is wrong with zoomers?
What's the point of 4chan when it's just endless Twitter screenshots? Why not just browse twitter straight to the source instead
>>736210337Okay, so /vg/ sucks. I get it.THANKFULLY, there is yet ANOTHER board you can use! The mobile games board!!!
>whole thread is complaining about gachachads and not the actual issueYea people discussing and playing video games are worse than>xitter screencaps(not game related)>random /pol/ shit>random image with a retarded caption people think is funny some how>porn generals>vtuber generals>eceleb generals>eceleb shilling>malwareshilling(hypervisor)>console war bait/famitsu(nintendo general)niggers are also complaining when we have>FF general>deltatroon general>peak general>Bethesda generaland more. The site is dying because people are hypocritical retards who are too low iq to stay in the threads they like rather than go into ones they don't just to seethe like the neglected trannys they are.
>>736210945And we also can't talk about the FOTM game or the popular game or anything anyone remotely cares about right now. Why isn't /v/ talking about your dead game from 20 years ago? Why is my heckin HOMM3 thread not getting replies?! /v/ culture is dead!>>736210952That's why it's not discussed. And if somehow there were a bunch of anons that want to discuss Candy Crush or Clash Royale, would you autistically be against that?
>>736210352Splitting /v/ into like 4 different boards was a mistake. They should have kept it all together. I used to read generals out of curiosity when it was all /v/. It split the community and made things worse. Keep it all on one board...double the amount of threads allowed if you have to
>>736211063They don't want to post on twitter because nobody will see it. Posting on twitter is posting into a void. Screencapping bullshit and posting it here, where there is a set number of threads up, means people are guaranteed to see it.
>>736208879Video Games are fucking dead
>>736210779>twitter screencaps they are too afraid to actually reply to on their god forsaken site.twitter is 4chan for shartyfags
>>736210779>Two, the mods and admin are seemingly powerless to stop schizos which drive people awaythe new captcha system and whatever they did to the back end at the same time actually helped a lot to curb proxy spammer schizos. but people bitch about that too because it's a minor annoyance, and it also doesn't do much to stop the more down low schizos who don't spam but still infest certain threads. it's a no-win situation, the site continues to attract more and worse schizos because it's one of the last few places on the internet where they can persist. the jannies can't do anything about it without making the site harder to use for everybody else, which goes against the spirit of the website. what do you do at that point? and to top it all off, the average user has a stick up their ass and conversations aren't allowed to be fun anymore. if you dare deviate from the script you get met with indignation. trying to discuss anything here is an exercise in futility. nobody dares show any personality except their hatred and contempt of things. like you said, it's miserable. I basically only come here out of habit at this point, and I'm sure I'm not alone.
>>736211090>Yea people discussing and playing video games are worse than>xitter screencaps(not game related)>random /pol/ shit>random image with a retarded caption people think is funny some how>porn generals>vtuber generals>eceleb generals>eceleb shilling>malwareshilling(hypervisor)>console war bait/famitsu(nintendo general)Glad to see you finally understand
>mods make /vmg/ to contain gacha>except the mod in charge hates generals and so none of the /vg/ generals move over>also gacha isn't actively moved to /vmg/>/vmg/ is on par with /po/ in terms of posts per day and has several year old threads>whatever mod is in charge also selectively allows generals for gacha he likes but bans the restnot to defend gachafags but this is once again a moderation issue
>>736208879>off topic garbage, screenshots of literally who opinion from Shitter/youtube/reddit, coom shit, shilling campaigns, bots, shills and browns everywhere etc a mystery anon
>>736211090>You don't like one thing? You must not care about this other thingLiterally every time there is meta discussionYes ban xitter screencaps. Ban (bad) off topics such as random politics. Ban steam charts. Ban softcore porn threads. Ban console war bait. And move all these general niggas to /vg/, /vrpg/, /vm/, or /vmg/. The mods made all those new boards and did nothing with them.
>>736211043Captchas are ten times easier and quicker on mobile for whatever reason
>>736211090You are 100% correct, but moderation doesn't agree with you.
>>736209538/a/ isn't constantly being split into separate containment boards
>>736209710Where exactly is the grass greener? This site has its problems but it’s also the only place left where you can say whatever the hell you want without being banned
>reading thread posting on desktop>Posted on desktop previously>Suddenly cannot post on desktop>Have to phonepost>Cannot attach images in phone private browsersUh yeah what the fuck?
>>736208879Gookmoot can't afford to run the bots anymore.
>>736211090>dood just let us use up the thread limit for our gambling sims
>>736210789I still can't believe they did that. The only reason to do that is nefarious
>>736211090>complains about a bunch of generals>"gachachads"Somebody lacks theory of mind lmao. Here's a tip to all the 105 IQ gacha posters: slow the fuck down. It's annoying to see all the IS COFFEE GOOD FOR YOU threads, that's literally fucking it. Nobody like an obnoxious faggot, doubly so when they hide behind OPs featuring some non-immediately-filterable horse or touhou character.
>>736209826sorry chuddie you just happened to catch a mod between xer naps and discord sessions ;)
>>736211192I've also noticed porn games usually keep their naughty images up for way longer than they should
>>736211201No the problem is pointing to VIDEO GAMES as the first issue rather than the things that are objectively worse. If you saw a terrorist beheading a baby in the streets would you call the police on her instead of the aforementioned? Let's not be retarded now, gacha belongs on /v/ more than 90% of the threads currently up. >>736211105Preach. I've been here for almost 20 years and have seen it evolve over time. Threads that were active back in the day are now DOA and it's definitely a reason why people are so pissy when something more popular and recent gets attention. >>736211289Why did you even reply to me with this worthless post. You're a waste of oxygen.
These are the two groups of people on /v/>people that still play videos games>people that stopped playing video games or play very sparingly but still come hereGroup B are insufferable faggots that go around policing what Group A plays and wants to talk about. What's vogue in video games these days are gachas and live service games. How the fuck do you discuss any video game at all when you reject what 99% of people are playing? And then Group B declares /v/ dead because a game they played as a child isn't the hottest topic on /v/. They also haven't played that particular game in decades.
>>736210548That's a curious situation, for the last 10 years XIV threads were deleted on sight. However over the past couple of years they've been left alone to a degree, primarily because they are posted by people who apparently are friends with the mod that was deleting threads and they use the threads to no holds barred spam and shitpost. The threads are completely unusable and if you interact with the shitposters YOU are the one that gets banned.Your image is of an even more recent trend where someone keeps spamming to keep the thread on the board, doing so with the same images and the same OP. The threads are still unusable and it's clearly being done for nefarious reasons.
>>736211207My captchas are super easy. For a while when they first switched to the new ones, I was getting all those "pick the one that has one star with 5 points" ones, and needing to solve 3-5 of them, but now I only need to solve one (1) captcha which is just "of these 3 shapes, which doesn't match?"
>>736211352>What's vogue in video games these days are gachas and live service games. How the fuck do you discuss any video game at all when you reject what 99% of people are playingBecause that shit is for normalfagsI still play vidya of all kinds but I don't touch any of that mainstream shit now and can't stand seeing it on my /v/Fuck you goycattle normalfag NPC sheeple
Hear me out >Wojak, Pepe, Twitter screencap, steamchart thread, whatever the fuck leads to an Instant month long ban>Delete /v/ spin-offs (except /vg/ but don't instantly exile games there for no reason), let /v/ have double the amount of threads. >More community building from the mods like impromptu stickys, public bans, posting among us. Etc>bring something like /qa/ back, not like the abomination it became, but a way to talk with the mods, or metapost, or being up issues>thread IDs on every thread >bring back the IP counter>update the site with long overdue features like soundposts, multiple images, etc.>add more options for reporting people shitting up threads, like thread schizos.Anyone disagree?
>>736211339They're not the first issue, but they are an issue that should be taken care of. People objected to it so it got argued over. I wouldn't even qualify gacha as a real video game in the first place but it's really just the massive fags like yourself who get so defensive over it that rub people the wrong way.
>>736210985Yes
>>736211221twitter has better free speech than 4chan now, they added filters here so you cant spam certain words like nigger anymore and you get banned here faster too.
>>736211408What video games have you talked about on here in the last week.
>>736208879Easiest answer to this? It's always the jannies.I remember we used to have DallE threads all the time on /v/ for the longest shit ever and the jannies never did a thing to them, same with the porn threads, twitter screencaps, eceleb threads, pol faggotry (offtopic stuff actually) and etc which sometimes aren't even video game related and they'll stay up for hours. But for some retarded reason, they'll always delete on-topic threads with high amount of vidya discussion or trying to derail it to the point of mass shitflinging which resulted in the threads getting 404. They don't really like video games being discussed on /v/.
>>736208879[Good news]
>>736211407/vp/ does the bulk of pokemon containment even with it spilling over into /v/ still. I wouldn't remove that one
>>736211405>Because that shit is for normalfagsThis hobby is for normalfags.
>>736211352This has to be bait.
>>736211407ban low effort AI threads and engagement farming content too. but that would actually require jannies to be active and use discernment.
>>736211471I thought that was covered in>Wojak, Pepe, Twitter screencap, steamchart thread, whatever the fuck leads to an Instant month long ban
>>736211460But this site isn'tFuck off
>>736211407Sound is a negative, no need for multiple images, and I'd keep one sub /v/ board because they do provide a place for people to have a general for games that can't find a foothold on /vg/.
I still think adding flag on April Fool is a very funny idea
>>736211408Pretty much>thread about whatever the fuck>someone posts about how gacha arent videogames>UHHH BUT THEY ARE THO?>UHHH BUT WHATABOUT [other shit that should be banned]?>UHHHH DONT YOU KNOW THEY ARE BETTER THAN AAA SLOPPA????>thread totally derailedJust look at this thread, I don't even particularly care about policing gachafags and I just wish they didn't keep up 24/7 threads but fuck man they do themselves 0 favors being so defensive.
>>736211407I assume /qa/ died because of ban evaders. They would just come back instantly./v/ already has its own share of evaders, I refuse to believe otherwise>the stellar blade spammer>the ERPers have been getting IP wiped pretty consistently, but they magically keep coming back>when draw threads were still a thing, the same faggot would request the same, fulfilled request for YEARS despite pages of deleted postsYou'd have to combat evaders before doing anything, they don't need to follow the rules
>>736211407All of that would be cool but you’d still be left with the same user base and moderation at the end of the day.I’d use one of the altchans if they weren’t so dead, but I guess that’s what keeps them of better quality than here.
For me I don't like the idea of going to another platform, people are mean when you're wrong and will continue to be every time they see you and genuine mentally ill people will track you and read and react to every single word you've ever said and act like they know who and what you areAnd some places are just too segregated to even have genuine conversations because some powermod will get uppity a word was said in the wrong areaI know this is stuff people say happens here but it's so much worse out there, I don't need some Timmy reading my whole post history and seething at me just because I disagreed with him or got a fact wrong
>>736211434Whatever's popped up. Sega threads, Star Wars Racer, Kirby Air Riders, thread discussing smaller indies, whatever. I'm not taking inventory.
>>736211470Make your argument. What premise are you rejecting? Are you denying that gachas are popular? Are you denying that people mostly play live service games? Even when a popular single player game comes along you'll just accuse it of being shilled. What is there to discuss then?
>>736211418>Twitter is better>Please ignore how fucking dogshit twitter is at literally everything from actual discussion to subject filtering
Eceleb gossip threads being allowed was the beginning of the end of this board
>>736211498fair enough, I just feel like AI deserves a specific shoutout cause that shit has been getting bad on certain boards
>>736211516Not any anon in this conversation but yeah, im a gachafag and I recognize people will simply not see eye to eye on that issue and there is no compromise, arguing about it is just gonna end up pissing people off again because both sides are completely irrational about it. Its better to just avoid the topic.
>>736211407>>More community building from the mods like impromptu stickys, public bans, posting among us. Etc>>bring something like /qa/ back, not like the abomination it became, but a way to talk with the mods, or metapost, or being up issuesNever ever going to happen, that era is long gone. The mods and jannies these days resent their jobs and are actively hostile toward this site's users.
4chan is on a death spiral, the site population is going down so fast that all the intelligent people are leaving because they realize they're in a site full of genuine retards and schizos. 4chan is concentrating itself into being a place full of more and more mentally ill people who spend every minute of everyday being obsessed with that single topic on this site. They made it their life mission to ruin discussion for it and somehow, 4chan seems to be gathering a bigger and bigger collection of them that the mods cant ban. This in turn creates an internet mental asylum where all these crazy people obsess over their one thing for decades to come until the site is dead forever.
Stop blaming 4chan staff for this, as shit as they are. Their hand was forced by the CP sharing retards from the other place that used this place as a proxy. That was the primary motivation behind paying for the new measures in place, which yes they have to pay for. It's not something Hiro did because he hates you personally.
>>736208879Nu /v/ feels like I'm talking to normies pretending to be retarded fags but the caveat is that they don't even play video games, and even if they do, they'll play the most normie shit imaginable.
are there any problematic threads right now
>>736211171Yeah sure, but then why mods delete videogame threads and discussion but allow eceleb and twitter threads?
>>736209996I would much rather deal with a constant buzz of schizos, autists, and nihilists and be able to say whatever I want within reason than the constant eggshell walking around passive aggressiveness and condescending self-censoring self-righteousness politically correct congregation of insincerity circuses that are every other social media platform on the open internet. This place isn’t that bad, it’s literally only place left on the internet I feel like I can fucking breathe anymore
>>736211528reddit is still shit for a lot of other reasons but they recently added the ability to hide your post history so people can't comb through your past comments to make judgements about you anymore. of course, people hated it. I saw one guy comment that it was "literally evil" lmao
>>736211637Something I usually bring up in these threads if I see them is that the jannys are pretty fast to deleting CP. I genuinely would never be able to do the job because I can't imagine living either so jaded that seeing children getting fucked doesn't bother you, or having to deal with the mental trauma of it regularly
Bros I’m sorry to admit it but I genuinely hate the site. I spend more time here than anything else though because I’m a NEET and I don’t use any other social platforms. The only people I talk to online are the retards here and it fucking sucks
>>736208879>50-60k daily postsThose were the "ick on deck" guy and the "vidya butt poster".
Oh of course we also have to deny discussion about Japanese video games because tranime, right? No, really, what is the list of approved video games that we can even talk about?
>>736211407>Open a thread about a video game on /v/>Within the first few posts someone lays out an extremely low quality post screeching about how the game is the worst thing ever made>That person spends the next 3 hours haunting the thread, posting nothing of value, and harassing everyone trying to discuss the topic>The longer the thread goes on the more of these random hate posters show upThis is the hardest thing to counter but you can't fix /v/ unless someone takes the hammer to them, repeatedly. Trolling is fun but this kind of behavior pushes people away, it's a new thing, something that showed up a few years ago and has really taken root.
>>736211642this one
>>736211636You just described every other social media platform on the internet *except* 4chan. This is the only place left with an ounce of genuine uncensored discussion
>>736211686I don't hate jannies, they're absolute fucking faggots but they do a necessary job. I wish they sometimes didn't delete certain threads, or requested bans of frankly silly stuff. But yeah, I feel a bit bad for them.
>>736211718>sort by creation date>open new thread immediately >shit on whatever game is there>people get pissed off and seethe post for hoursYou're welcome nigger I just saved your DEAD thread.
>horsecuck still complaining his spam thread got deleted
>>736208879/vg/ - Video Game Generals board is extremely fast thanks to gacha games and schizos arguing non-stop 24/7.
>>736211637What we are talking about extends beyond the cp shitshow from months back. It is more the mods cultivating the site to their whims and what they want 4chan to be by selectively enforcing rules leading to the site as it is in the current day.This came up during the leaks but the mod of /jp/ fucking hates touhou and actively tries to kill discussions by leaving shit threads up, killing good threads, and letting things like vtuber and idols go badically unchecked.
>>736209426Is it me?
>>736211661that I don't have an answer for fren. I'm not saying the jannies are flawless, a lot of them are powertripping and make poor decisions, and I have myself have gotten bans I don't agree with at all. but it's complicated. not everything they do is out of malice towards the users. spammers are/were a legitimate problem and it's hard to combat that without impacting users downstream.
i wasnt able to post for weeks because it constantly thinks i'm a bot.
I already quit all my gachas but this thread motivated me to go back in. I will play video games.
>>736210243If you unironically think this way, then no wonder all the quality posters went away.
>>736211718There is a fine line between an opinion and an schizo, with thread IDs it becomes easily reportable, deals with the samefag problems, deals with trolling culture. Etc, its root but it can be addressed.
>>736211508>4chan>le secret clubis this your first day here?
>>736211753>genuine uncensored discussion>every topic is the same people pointlessly shitflinging, sometimes daily
>>736211674lmao the last time the internet was like that was in 2022, 4 years ago. Instagram has more racists than /pol/. Facebook has boomers talking about committing race crimes with their names in public view. Twitter is openly hosting nazi white supremacists. Tiktok zoomers are openly sharing and calling for jewish genocide. 4chan in comparison is just baiting each other everyday and calling each other chuds.
>>736211753>Barely post on /vp/ anymore because a small handful of users have dedicated several years to maliciously destroying discussion out of sheer intense autismVery genuine
Ten trannies run the show here. The loss of even one has a dramatic effect.
>>736211367then it's more proof that the mods don't care about rules or moderation and only allow threads they like or if it's their personal shitposting ground
>>736210572>rules you are never told.I don't use /tg/ and I'm sure that mod is a cunt but in the old days we would've said the solution is to LURK MOAR
>muh ">le secret club"troon behaviour
the jannies ban you if you go against the shills these days
Just like dubs, certain stuff needs to be disabled. Like the word tranny/troon or the phrase buy an ad or all these low quality slop insults that do nothing but shit up the place.
>>736211776The generals i used years ago seem to be stuck in a loop repeating the same arguments and comments as if nothing had changed and it's eerie to look at. Worse yet you can't be sure if its bots or actual people stuck in a hell of their own making
>>736211883Anon this isn't a lurk moar scenario, this is a 'you just posted in the mod protected furry thread and just copped a 3 day ban for off topic by asking why its even allowed' scenario
>>736211753he's not talking about censorship. he's talking about obsessive posters who ruin discussion of certain topics by haunting every thread. and it is a real problem here. ironically, posters like that thrive because of the anonymity and lack of moderation. and also because a lot of boards are slow enough that if you're terminally online, you can effectively single handledly dominate the discourse about certain topics. and because it's anonymous and unregulated, it's difficult to call people out for it or shut them down.
>>736211901that's literally just not true. I shit on shills all the time here and have never had an issue. The problem is when you're being a retard who thinks people spamming threads for new games is "shilling" and you're being annoying in all of them like you're the savior of 4chan for seething in the first post of every thread.
>>736209293>the userbase is confrontational and miserable to interact withSo like everywhere else on the Internet just without the fake>be nice to others! This is a safe space! attitude
>>736211837IDs would definitely help, there are far too many legitimate schizos that inhabit this board and it's impossible for anyone on the user side to do anything about it as things currently are.
>>736211865Im sure a lot of boards are dead now, but the few that aren’t are still the only places left on the internet that that some semblance of sanity to them, even among the schizo posting.
>had to shut off and move desktop because water damage to the floor>Laptop doesn't let me post>Browse in private mode always so I don't have a cookie on my desktop anymoreIf I come back in a few weeks and I'm still getting the thing telling me to give them my email I'm going to be fucking pissed.
>>736211847yeah pretty much. 4chan's only niche these days is that you can bait retards with ease
>>736211407>Delete /v/ spin-offs / thread IDs on every thread / bring back the IP counter/ update the site with long overdue features like soundposts, multiple images, etc.agree>More community building from the modstheir april fools was just captcha images...>add more options for reporting people shitting up threads, like thread schizos.they give you a warning when you report the spammers
>>736209996reality is this place is getting no one from the younger generations. the people that have been browsing /v/ have aged and have gotten jobs and families. they're not going to be browsing this depraved shithole. like you said the only people left are 3rd worlders or the mentally ill, who spend every single waking minute trying to get that (you) dopamine by endlessly shitposting.
>>736211956lol no it's like taking a step back and seeing the matrix of this website that is designed to maximize making you mad as a means of activity. Once you figure this out the whole illusion falls apart. The rest of the internet is like this too but this place in particular being anonymous accelerates that process faster than everywhere else. You can only make your users angry for so long before they get bored and move on
Ban whatever country those faggots who post /v/ screenshot on Twitter came from
>>736211956yeah. the rest of the internet isn't any better. doesn't mean 4chan is without problems though. I think you'll find that a lot of people aren't moving from 4chan to other websites, they're just engaging less with the internet altogether.
>>736211987I don't think it's impossible, it's just a willingness thing, if there is a healthy community that knows to ignore and hide bait and report schizos it gets much easier.
>>736209293> the userbase is confrontational and miserable to interact with,TRVKE/v/ in particular is one of the worst offenders.
>>736211938There are downsides to anonymity and light moderation. But the upsides far, far, far outweigh them. I can’t overstate that. Once you lose those two things, your platform is irrevocably compromised
>>736208879/v/ has always been a board for people with no genuine interest or knowledge in the board's subject to hold any actual discussion.Even /a/ which is flooded with schizo shitposters at least has that in threads that are relatively knowledge about the thread topic and there will be some amount of discussion going on.Why /v/ is declining is because, not only has it historically spent little time discussing video games but this has combined with>picwhich has led to an even more retarded, uneducated audience completely incapable of discussing anything and having zero actual knowledge or experience with video games./v/ even with the shitposting, should have a massive, nearly indefinite number of games to discuss. But how many jeets and shitskins do you think have actually played anything beyond maybe Skyrim, Elden Ring and 2 hours of some FoTM crap?
>>736208879I unironically believe creating /vg/ was a mistake, maybe it was necessary at the time but there is no monoboard culture anymore of shared games to love, or subcommunities, or stuff like that.
>>736208879>the fucking april fools dumbshit is workingCan't believe goddamn jannies and mods are working their fatass for once.
>>736212028>they're just engaging less with the internet altogether.That is what I meant, yes.>The rest of the internet is like this too but this place in particular being anonymous accelerates that process faster than everywhere else.It's really not. If you look at any thread on Reddit they are just as hostile, if not more hostile to each other, just with the added>WHY AM I GETTING DOWNVOTED>YOU CAN'T TALK TO PEOPLE LIKE THAT>WOW UM THAT ATTITUDE IS NOT ACCEPTABLE
>>736212064I agree. there's a reason I'm still here after all. but I'm still aware of the downsides. as I said above, I don't think it's a matter of 4chan vs the rest of the internet. it's a question of, do I even want to bother using the Internet at all anymore?
>wait all april fools to post in some 'set the record' meta threadWhy are they like this bros
>>736211938is it a lack of moderation? what would happen in IP counters + ID's get introduced? I'm curious if self moderation would take place under those conditions because only the most dedicated of autists would still go out of their way to spam through that
>>736208879This whole site is unbelievably slower than it was a few years ago.If it was slower, threads would last for days/weeks, which would ultimately reward effortposting and deeper conversations.If it was faster, it would at least offer endless stream of trash to entertain you.Instead it's the shitty middle ground where you check on a board twice a day and it's roughly the same low quality shit you already saw the previous time.
>>736211956We should be nice to each other. This should be a safe space.
>>736212191The only safe space there is is a place where I can call people niggers when it's appropriate.
what's funnier is the average concurrent users are always 230k and never below 200k, it's been this way for the past 4 years, kek
>>736212136you just have to man up and call people faggots and niggers on facebook to their faces
>>736211937I dunno that does sound like a lurk moar scenario to me
>>736212228are you saying 200,000 people looking at my posts
>>736209293I feel like this imageboard should've just started adding boards willy-nilly instead of waiting for a flood of interest on the topic. Sure it leads to a lot of slow boards but who gives a shit? Who cares if we get any more? Everyone wants a niche topic here and there
>>736208879Site is dying and have been dying for a long time.It's sad really since it has lots of connections and sources.
>>736211407i only really care about thread ids because there are schizos infesting every single general i usemaybe add a few hour forced lurking period for any new devices to make it at least annoying for ban evaders
>>736211938Very good insight into why 4chan sucks nowadays, there's too many lifeless losers that made it their life mission to ruin a certain topic of discussion. The fact that this has been happening to EVERY topic on this site says that there's way too many of them congregated here. It's absolutely insane we have some mentally ill schizos that just pop up that have been doing that one thing for at least 10 years at this point.
>>736212149It would immediately cause self-censored posting and within 1 year the passive aggressiveness and hivemind mentality that you see on overmoderated platforms would take root. Toxic positivity is far more insidious than toxic negativity
>>736212292>maybe add a few hour forced lurking period for any new devices to make it at least annoying for ban evadersThis is an excellent idea desu.
>>736212276And yet less than 0.1% of them reply to your posts, you should do better.
>>736212292you'll never escape the schizos
>>736212292That's actually really funny. Maybe an hour timer for new posters, a few hours and you'll detour people entirely from coming here if they can't talk in the thread that caught their eye.
>>736211367>That's a curious situation, for the last 10 years XIV threads were deleted on sight. However over the past couple of years they've been left alone to a degree, primarily because they are posted by people who apparently are friends with the mod that was deleting threads and they use the threads to no holds barred spam and shitpost. The threads are completely unusable and if you interact with the shitposters YOU are the one that gets banned.Yeah, this is extremely strange. It's also not "the past couple years", it's only the past year, maybe even just the past 6 months or so. No one was allowed to have a thread about XIV unless it was a blatant shitpost thread, either obviously shitposting about Yoshida or obviously shitposting about the newest cash shop item or some such thing. Then, some time within the past 6 months maybe, I guess the guy who always had his eternal shitpost Yoshida thread up decided to turn it into an XIV thread that is less blatantly a shitpost, like you look at the thread and think that maybe it's not shitposting, then you open the thread and it's the same schizos from the blatant shitpost thread. I don't know what fuckery it is, but somehow the mods and/or jannies are involved because even within the past year, you'd get 30 days bans for making XIV threads or the thread would be instantly deleted or moved to /b/ or to /trash/
>>736209293We're great at making horror content (no secret that most horror trends, like SCP, Backrooms, wario apparition came from us) but every time we make something that goes into orbit it skyrockets that its origins here get quickly forgotten and nobody comes back because truth be told, this is just a shitty website to begin with. Nobody wants to be here at all
>>736211642The grace threadsIf it was talking about grace, or having fun about grace, or if it was a resident evil thread yeah thats fine. But grace threads are literally just imagedumps with ERP on them.
>>736212358yes but it will make it harder and more annoying for the actual problem users, you can't fix it 100% but you can make it more bearable for everyone else
>>736212358That doesn't really count he clearly didn't notice the Ids >>736212367kek I got a 3 day last week for making a gacha thread. Ban evading isn't fucking worth it anymore with how terrible the captcha is now.
>>736212367Mmoshit belongs to /vg/
>>736212079Indians dont exist on 4chan. It's because actual Indians do not have the internet culture ties to use this godforsaken site since 4chan's mass drop in popularity. Also indians are money and goals driven, building an internet personality from shitposting and ragebaiting on instagram, twitter, facebook will bring them actual money. They dont get paid to post here, there is no money incentive. Which leaves the most obvious demographic that pretends to be 3rd worlders on 4chan: trolls.
>>736212358Deranged board
>>736209293You guys should see the comments on other sites like Instagram or Tiktok. It's just like here. normalfags post reaction faces, racism, dark humor. There's no need to come here anymore.
>>736212434I can agree with this, but also I think they also have their place in /v/ (I don't play any MMOs before they become the next boogeyman ITT like gacha has). /v/ is just about videogames.
>>736212434Sure. But there's an eternal XIV shitpost thread that the mods allow to remain on /v/, but only when a certain someone posts it, and only when it's filled with shitposting.
>>736212358Just remember that’s it’s ten times worse here
>>736208879Tranny jannies abusing their banning modThere is literally a character I can't post in /a/ without getting the post deleted despite being ontopic.
>>736208879>what happenedCrippling e-celeb addiction has turned internet community into minute by minute reposting forums.No original thoughts are left except mine and mine alone. You are all e-celeb addicted losers. Kill yourselves.
>>736208879New Captcha and not everyone knowing the Ublock fix.
>>736212513post character
>>736208879people are getting range banned for no reason
