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Can I skip the Edgeworth Investigations games and the Professor Layton crossover and jump into Dual Destinies?
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Yes
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>>736209059
Yes, although the Investigations games are some of my favorites and Dual Destinies is my least favorite so I wouldn't recommend it
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>>736209059
You can but I wouldn't.
the sudden shift in writing might kill you without preparing you in advance.
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>>736209059
Yes, I2 is the best in the series though and that needs I1 for context. DD is better than I1.
Never played Layton.
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>>736209059
Yes but they’re worth playing. Layton if you’ve at least done a Layton game before.
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>9 years since the last entry in the Ace Attorney franchise
is this series dead with the 3DS?
i guess it makes sense, handhelds are dead so why bother making these games
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>>736209381
They keep making ports so I doubt it's dead. AA7 by 2030.
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>>736209589
this, i'm willing to bet they ported all of the games partly to increase interest in the series before releasing a sequel. i just hope it's not shit kek
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>>736209381
Ironically, TGAA is what put it in limbo. All the mocap and animation made them very expensive projects, and Japan rejected them wholesale.
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>>736209694
eh it could range anywhere between eh to great i reckon, we got a real mystery box on our hands since chances are it'll be with a new team and lead.
Unless they get the old guy back, then chances are it'll play things extremely safe or just be another spin off, which isn't a bad thing mind you, but I kinda want something fresh.
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>>736209589
>>736209694
other franchises will mix ports and remakes with new entries though. like resident evil.
if they ever make AA7, the time between releases is going to make kingdom hearts seem frequent
>>736209775
TGAA used mocap?
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>>736209775
also TGAA, both games, preformed badly in japan so they drastically failed to make a profit.
this doesn't mean the two games are bad mind you, if anything it most likely did better as a collection duology, but Dollars to Donuts Capcom say Japan rejecting AA lead by the original writer and went "ehhhhhh I dunno how much confident we have...we'll come back to this later."
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>>736209852
It did, I think I read somewhere that Barok and "Eggert Benedict" were performed by the same guy.
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>>736209059
Imo, you should play the games in order of release. DD makes a small reference to Investigations 2.

But then again, DD is the worst game in the series, so it might be better to get that out of the way first.
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>>736209867
The duology collection has sold over 1 million units. TGAA2 sold badly on the 3DS but Capcom barely gave it any budget and didn’t properly advertise it. TGAA1 performed about the same or better as AAI.
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>>736209381
No Takumi, no buy.
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dual destinies is actually not as bad as i thought, consider what im saying
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>>736210496
I liked Dual Destinies. 5-3 was kino.
I didn't like Spirit of Justice that much. I only enjoyed 5-4 (mostly because of Simon). Come to think of it, he's also probably why I liked Dual Destinies.
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>>736210569
I didn't care too much for 5-3 personally, but the moment where Simon just decides to go for a walk when the trial gets too bullshit for him to take was legendary.
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>>736210496
Dual Destinies is better than AJ at least, that's for sure
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>>736210569
>>736210681
Blackquill hard carried DD.
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>>736210496
Dual Destinies DLC case was comfy and KINO
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>>736210843
>the twist about his motives
>the transformation
vgh
kino
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>>736210843
>>736210890
>yfw
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>>736209059
Absolutely, though you should still play Investigations when you feel like it, the story is mostly unrelated but it's still good.
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Shu Takumi is apparently working on a new game.
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>>736209059
You shouldn't skip Edgeworth 1-2, IMO.

Layton vs Wright can be skipped, it really doesn't do anything for the series other than introduce multiple witnesses on the stand at the same time that Dual Destinies takes.

E1-2 get referenced, so they're still part of the "main series" no matter how much Capcom tried to sell them as a "spin-off."
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>>736211293
For me it's his damage animation with the blood spurting out of him. Absurd and hilarious as fuck.
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>>736209589
I don't think Takumi is doing anything with it currently.

And given how shit Capcom is right now (Enigma DRMalware on 30+ year old fucking PC ports, really?), I don't know if I REALLY want them touching the series beyond rereleases/ports.
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>>736211360
I hope they allow him to make one last unique game, like Ghost Trick.
Something worthy to retire on.
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>>736209059
When are those RAT BASTARDS at Capcom going to make a collection of all the Layton games like they did with the AA collections?
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>>736211414
Well, he is working on SOMETHING unless Kamiya’s full of shit.
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I've been putting off finishing GAA2 because then I'll be completely out of Ace Attorney maybe forever
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>>736211568
hot, can she stick me in her asshole
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>>736210315
What's the reference? I haven't played AAI2 yet but I played DD forever ago on 3DS and have no confidence I'd remember anything about it if prompted
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>>736211580
GA2-4 and 5 are remarkably mediocre and disappointing so maybe that's a good thing
End on a high note with 2-3
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>>736209059
>"Can I skip the good games where I play as Edgeworth, and go straight to the worst game in the series?"

Sure, if you're an idiot.
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DD is my favorite. Sex with Athena.
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>>736211671
>worst game in the series
It sounds like he already played AJ.
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>>736211687
this but SOJ
also sex with Athena
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>>736209059
Investigations 2 is way better than DD, which is considered to be one of the weaker games in the series. I personally liked the Professor Layton game too.
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>>736211728
I want Athena to be developed more so dicking her down is more emotionally fulfilling
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>>736211775
True, she needs her own game.
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>>736211706
this
AJ is the worst game in the series and the only one that even comes close is GAA for not having a proper trial in a case (G-2 is the worst case in the series gameplay wise and I'm NOT kidding) and then also being a literally uncompleted game.
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>>736209775
DGS you mean
the dual destinies and DGS one-two punch BURIED all hype ace attorney had
still mad 10 years later. it's the most insulting game in the franchise. DGS2 was too late
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>>736211816
I can understand this perspective, I would have been pretty annoyed waiting so long for part 2. Especially with how obvious he makes the villain.
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>>736211806
>AJ worst game
>has best pursuit theme
It's not fair
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>>736211706
Apollo Justice at least has the tutorial case, great sprite work, and a nice OST.
DD has Blackquill, and that's about it. Regardless, AAI2 shits on both, so he shouldn't skip it.
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>>736209381
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>>736211915
funnily enough this applies to GAA as well
great ost
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>>736211806
>GAA le bad!1

Contrarian retard be gone! It's by far the highest-rated AA game for a reason.
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>>736211994
>reddit says its good therefore its good
I think I2 is the best game, I'm not even a contrarian
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I liked GAA. The jury mechanic was fun and Gina is a qt.
Case 2 was dogshit though
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>>736211917
Playing SoJ now I reached Simon and Athena togheter, I wish the game was about them, I don't know why I'm getting another fucking backstory for Apollo
I still laugh at the supposed best friend from DD and Apollo getting an entire new cathphrase he never used once in the original games lmao
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>>736212081
Each GAA shoots itself in the foot in a different way
1 has its own issues but 2?
Imagine ditching the only good gimmick you have for the final cases
I wouldn't mind if AA7 kept jury, it was cool
The "NOT IN DECADES HAS ANYONE EVER REVERSED A JURY DECISION BEFORE" thing and proceeding to do it a billion more times is silly though
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>>736211994
1 really isn't very good. It's filled with obvious twist bait and it moves slow as molasses. 2 has some great payoff but it's good despite 1's meandering, not because of it.
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>>736211970
and also to AAI

the worst AA games have the best soundtracks. AJ, GAA and AAI just mog
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>>736212142
I mean he did say it, just a few times in 4-1, not excessively like DD though.
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>>736211580
Cope by playing Famicom Detective Club remakes + the newest one. No court sections but it's very similar to the investigation parts of AA.
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>>736212163
I unironically like Khurain and think 6-2 is pure kino but having Apollo be the star was silly and his backstory was retarded
If Athena's dad was Khurainese and she took Apollo's place it would have been better
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>>736212251
meant for >>736212142
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>>736211948
I don't necessarily want more Ace Attorney games, I just want more VN/adventure games in a similar vein and most other detective VNs aren't great...
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>>736209775
It also had "too japanese" designs, unironically, they were too generic looking without the charm like Maya's outfit.
Also, another HUGE problem is Capcom using the aging in real time shit with AA too so we wouldn't even get another Athena x Simon for being too old
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>>736209381
The HD collection has sold nearly 5 million, which is insane for a VN. They know there's an audience.
Creating an AA specifically for consoles for once takes time, as they need to find a way to ruin it with the RE Engine.
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>>736212251
To be fair, he had no backstory in AJ and
Clay Terran is a hamfisted plot device.

If it was about Athena instead, everyone would be bitching about ANOTHER ATHENA BACKSTORY?! And she gets more development in her debut than he does.
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>>736212251
>>736212281
Yeah, I had the same problem during DD too during the Space case, instead of dedicating some Athena moments with her past with get a random best friend for Apollo KEK
Like I don't even hate Apollo (I like his chemistry with trucy) but you can tell someone at capcom tried REALLY hard to make him a special donut steel just like when they were so obsessed to make that Luke guy the next big thing in street fighter.
Simon and Athena should have been the stars
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>>736212334
Have you considered playing other actual video games
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>>736212449
have you considered that I don't like actual video games?
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>>736212398
The reason engine is good and cheap for them, it's their obsession with facescanning monstrosities and listening to the trannies begging them to make everything uglier.
>Sold great
Yeah, but the problem with aa, again, is that capcom decided to age the characters in real time so they would have to make an entire new thing
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>>736209381
I mean, there's a market for this kind of thing, you just have to get good word of mouth out. Danganronpa practically stole the formula and made gangbusters off of it because it remixed it to where everyone's on trial rather than just your defendant.
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>>736209059
> Professor Layton crossover
Yes, hardskip this bitch
This project was fucked from the start and we should’ve known seeing how they delayed the release date multiple times
Capcom will never ever work with Level 5 ever again
>>736209381
There was that rumor of new Switch game with new mechanics back in 2019. Needles to say this shit never materialized
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>>736211994
1 is not a good game on its own and desperately needs the second game to function properly as a finished narrative, it has by far the slowest introduction case clocking in at 2-4 hours depending on play time, it's honestly the only game I can think of where "it gets better 6-8 hours in isn't hyperbolic"
>>736212163
2 you can really feel capcom pulling the budget purse away from Takumi and going "this is a money pit you've made, your on your own." and it just hurts.
>>736212165
1 Honestly has one good twist and that's it, it's awful pacing along with being half finished is a rough spot for any jap that had to wait for 3-4 years for the sequel, we got off super lucky.
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>>736212426
Apollo in General just kinda suffers from having no real initial blueprint beyond "Red Phoenix that's slightly more passionate and outspoken." along with not really having much to follow up on for future installments without adding on more shit.
Someone on the dev team liked Apollo, and Japan liked Apollo, but I don't think either of the directors liked him, it's just kinda an issue you know?
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>>736212473
Then why the fuck are you posting on a VIDEO GAME FUCKING BOARD



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