Can I skip the Edgeworth Investigations games and the Professor Layton crossover and jump into Dual Destinies?
Yes
>>736209059Yes, although the Investigations games are some of my favorites and Dual Destinies is my least favorite so I wouldn't recommend it
>>736209059You can but I wouldn't.the sudden shift in writing might kill you without preparing you in advance.
>>736209059Yes, I2 is the best in the series though and that needs I1 for context. DD is better than I1.Never played Layton.
>>736209059Yes but they’re worth playing. Layton if you’ve at least done a Layton game before.
>9 years since the last entry in the Ace Attorney franchiseis this series dead with the 3DS? i guess it makes sense, handhelds are dead so why bother making these games
>>736209381They keep making ports so I doubt it's dead. AA7 by 2030.
>>736209589this, i'm willing to bet they ported all of the games partly to increase interest in the series before releasing a sequel. i just hope it's not shit kek
>>736209381Ironically, TGAA is what put it in limbo. All the mocap and animation made them very expensive projects, and Japan rejected them wholesale.
>>736209694eh it could range anywhere between eh to great i reckon, we got a real mystery box on our hands since chances are it'll be with a new team and lead.Unless they get the old guy back, then chances are it'll play things extremely safe or just be another spin off, which isn't a bad thing mind you, but I kinda want something fresh.
>>736209589>>736209694other franchises will mix ports and remakes with new entries though. like resident evil. if they ever make AA7, the time between releases is going to make kingdom hearts seem frequent>>736209775TGAA used mocap?
>>736209775also TGAA, both games, preformed badly in japan so they drastically failed to make a profit.this doesn't mean the two games are bad mind you, if anything it most likely did better as a collection duology, but Dollars to Donuts Capcom say Japan rejecting AA lead by the original writer and went "ehhhhhh I dunno how much confident we have...we'll come back to this later."
>>736209852It did, I think I read somewhere that Barok and "Eggert Benedict" were performed by the same guy.
>>736209059Imo, you should play the games in order of release. DD makes a small reference to Investigations 2.But then again, DD is the worst game in the series, so it might be better to get that out of the way first.
>>736209867The duology collection has sold over 1 million units. TGAA2 sold badly on the 3DS but Capcom barely gave it any budget and didn’t properly advertise it. TGAA1 performed about the same or better as AAI.
>>736209381No Takumi, no buy.
dual destinies is actually not as bad as i thought, consider what im saying
>>736210496I liked Dual Destinies. 5-3 was kino.I didn't like Spirit of Justice that much. I only enjoyed 5-4 (mostly because of Simon). Come to think of it, he's also probably why I liked Dual Destinies.
>>736210569I didn't care too much for 5-3 personally, but the moment where Simon just decides to go for a walk when the trial gets too bullshit for him to take was legendary.
>>736210496Dual Destinies is better than AJ at least, that's for sure
>>736210569>>736210681Blackquill hard carried DD.
>>736210496Dual Destinies DLC case was comfy and KINO
>>736210843>the twist about his motives>the transformationvghkino
>>736210843>>736210890>yfw
>>736209059Absolutely, though you should still play Investigations when you feel like it, the story is mostly unrelated but it's still good.
Shu Takumi is apparently working on a new game.
>>736209059You shouldn't skip Edgeworth 1-2, IMO.Layton vs Wright can be skipped, it really doesn't do anything for the series other than introduce multiple witnesses on the stand at the same time that Dual Destinies takes.E1-2 get referenced, so they're still part of the "main series" no matter how much Capcom tried to sell them as a "spin-off."
>>736211293For me it's his damage animation with the blood spurting out of him. Absurd and hilarious as fuck.
>>736209589I don't think Takumi is doing anything with it currently.And given how shit Capcom is right now (Enigma DRMalware on 30+ year old fucking PC ports, really?), I don't know if I REALLY want them touching the series beyond rereleases/ports.
>>736211360I hope they allow him to make one last unique game, like Ghost Trick.Something worthy to retire on.
>>736209059When are those RAT BASTARDS at Capcom going to make a collection of all the Layton games like they did with the AA collections?
>>736211414Well, he is working on SOMETHING unless Kamiya’s full of shit.
I've been putting off finishing GAA2 because then I'll be completely out of Ace Attorney maybe forever
>>736211568hot, can she stick me in her asshole
>>736210315What's the reference? I haven't played AAI2 yet but I played DD forever ago on 3DS and have no confidence I'd remember anything about it if prompted
>>736211580GA2-4 and 5 are remarkably mediocre and disappointing so maybe that's a good thingEnd on a high note with 2-3
>>736209059>"Can I skip the good games where I play as Edgeworth, and go straight to the worst game in the series?"Sure, if you're an idiot.
DD is my favorite. Sex with Athena.
>>736211671>worst game in the seriesIt sounds like he already played AJ.
>>736211687this but SOJalso sex with Athena
>>736209059Investigations 2 is way better than DD, which is considered to be one of the weaker games in the series. I personally liked the Professor Layton game too.
>>736211687>>736211728I want Athena to be developed more so dicking her down is more emotionally fulfilling
>>736211775True, she needs her own game.
>>736211706thisAJ is the worst game in the series and the only one that even comes close is GAA for not having a proper trial in a case (G-2 is the worst case in the series gameplay wise and I'm NOT kidding) and then also being a literally uncompleted game.
>>736209775DGS you meanthe dual destinies and DGS one-two punch BURIED all hype ace attorney hadstill mad 10 years later. it's the most insulting game in the franchise. DGS2 was too late
>>736211816I can understand this perspective, I would have been pretty annoyed waiting so long for part 2. Especially with how obvious he makes the villain.
>>736211806>AJ worst game>has best pursuit themeIt's not fair
>>736211706Apollo Justice at least has the tutorial case, great sprite work, and a nice OST.DD has Blackquill, and that's about it. Regardless, AAI2 shits on both, so he shouldn't skip it.
>>736209381
>>736211915funnily enough this applies to GAA as wellgreat ost
>>736211806>GAA le bad!1Contrarian retard be gone! It's by far the highest-rated AA game for a reason.
>>736211994>reddit says its good therefore its goodI think I2 is the best game, I'm not even a contrarian
I liked GAA. The jury mechanic was fun and Gina is a qt.Case 2 was dogshit though
>>736211917Playing SoJ now I reached Simon and Athena togheter, I wish the game was about them, I don't know why I'm getting another fucking backstory for ApolloI still laugh at the supposed best friend from DD and Apollo getting an entire new cathphrase he never used once in the original games lmao
>>736212081Each GAA shoots itself in the foot in a different way1 has its own issues but 2?Imagine ditching the only good gimmick you have for the final casesI wouldn't mind if AA7 kept jury, it was coolThe "NOT IN DECADES HAS ANYONE EVER REVERSED A JURY DECISION BEFORE" thing and proceeding to do it a billion more times is silly though
>>7362119941 really isn't very good. It's filled with obvious twist bait and it moves slow as molasses. 2 has some great payoff but it's good despite 1's meandering, not because of it.
>>736211970and also to AAIthe worst AA games have the best soundtracks. AJ, GAA and AAI just mog
>>736212142I mean he did say it, just a few times in 4-1, not excessively like DD though.
>>736211580Cope by playing Famicom Detective Club remakes + the newest one. No court sections but it's very similar to the investigation parts of AA.
>>736212163I unironically like Khurain and think 6-2 is pure kino but having Apollo be the star was silly and his backstory was retardedIf Athena's dad was Khurainese and she took Apollo's place it would have been better
>>736212251meant for >>736212142
>>736211948I don't necessarily want more Ace Attorney games, I just want more VN/adventure games in a similar vein and most other detective VNs aren't great...
>>736209775It also had "too japanese" designs, unironically, they were too generic looking without the charm like Maya's outfit.Also, another HUGE problem is Capcom using the aging in real time shit with AA too so we wouldn't even get another Athena x Simon for being too old
>>736209381The HD collection has sold nearly 5 million, which is insane for a VN. They know there's an audience.Creating an AA specifically for consoles for once takes time, as they need to find a way to ruin it with the RE Engine.
>>736212251To be fair, he had no backstory in AJ and Clay Terran is a hamfisted plot device.If it was about Athena instead, everyone would be bitching about ANOTHER ATHENA BACKSTORY?! And she gets more development in her debut than he does.
>>736212251>>736212281Yeah, I had the same problem during DD too during the Space case, instead of dedicating some Athena moments with her past with get a random best friend for Apollo KEKLike I don't even hate Apollo (I like his chemistry with trucy) but you can tell someone at capcom tried REALLY hard to make him a special donut steel just like when they were so obsessed to make that Luke guy the next big thing in street fighter.Simon and Athena should have been the stars
>>736212334Have you considered playing other actual video games
>>736212449have you considered that I don't like actual video games?
>>736212398The reason engine is good and cheap for them, it's their obsession with facescanning monstrosities and listening to the trannies begging them to make everything uglier.>Sold greatYeah, but the problem with aa, again, is that capcom decided to age the characters in real time so they would have to make an entire new thing
>>736209381I mean, there's a market for this kind of thing, you just have to get good word of mouth out. Danganronpa practically stole the formula and made gangbusters off of it because it remixed it to where everyone's on trial rather than just your defendant.
>>736209059> Professor Layton crossoverYes, hardskip this bitchThis project was fucked from the start and we should’ve known seeing how they delayed the release date multiple timesCapcom will never ever work with Level 5 ever again>>736209381There was that rumor of new Switch game with new mechanics back in 2019. Needles to say this shit never materialized
>>7362119941 is not a good game on its own and desperately needs the second game to function properly as a finished narrative, it has by far the slowest introduction case clocking in at 2-4 hours depending on play time, it's honestly the only game I can think of where "it gets better 6-8 hours in isn't hyperbolic" >>7362121632 you can really feel capcom pulling the budget purse away from Takumi and going "this is a money pit you've made, your on your own." and it just hurts.>>7362121651 Honestly has one good twist and that's it, it's awful pacing along with being half finished is a rough spot for any jap that had to wait for 3-4 years for the sequel, we got off super lucky.>>736212410>>736212426Apollo in General just kinda suffers from having no real initial blueprint beyond "Red Phoenix that's slightly more passionate and outspoken." along with not really having much to follow up on for future installments without adding on more shit.Someone on the dev team liked Apollo, and Japan liked Apollo, but I don't think either of the directors liked him, it's just kinda an issue you know?
>>736212473Then why the fuck are you posting on a VIDEO GAME FUCKING BOARD
>>736212610because it pisses you off
>>736212630>I am so lonely and friendless in my life that I participate in forum boards just to piss off strangers I will never meet! I'd tell you to kill yourself, but knowing your kind, you most likely will soon enough without needing my assistance. Thank god.
>>736212449Play Ghost Trick if you haven't already. Unironically better than every AA game.
>>736212690meant for >>736212334
>>736209059You should play the AAI games. 1 isn't all that great but 2 is
>>736211568> CAPCOM MADE LAYTON GAMESNo you completely got that wrong, if you want to get pissed at someone go and piss on Level 5That company was too retardrd they> sabotaged the crossover> sabotaged Layton series with Lady Layton> sabotaged Yokai Watch so bad it’s actively dead> went out of business for several years until they made a comeback around 2022> took several delays to finally release Fantasy Life> no fucking idea if they will ever release LAYTON IS A STRAIGHT MAN this year cuz we got nothing> that new Holy Horror Mansion is 2029 release guaranteed at this rate> Capcom already cut ties with them hence we will never get the crossover portThey are so fucking dense it’s unbelievable
>>7362127851 is pretty meh but I unironically like 1-5 and AlbaHe's a shit character yes but he's shit in a very funny way and this 90 year old Eastern European general using video game terms is fucking hilarious
>>736212785>>736212842I don't hate AA1 entirely but good god the final case fucking DRAGGED. I swear they did that jumping to every shocked character thing to reveal something like seven fucking times
>>736212973They ran out of actual characters and had to use a faceless npc at one point kek
since this is the ds game thread I'm going to ask here. what the fuck do I do in lost in blue? I ran around for 10 minutes looking for resources until my character died of starvation and thirst.
>>736209059I want a sexy ghost wife.
>>736213267>what the fuck that's illegal you can't use that>nuh uh I'm not submitting it just showing it to the judge hee heethat was such a shit casePhoenix should have just said "editted photo, magic isn't real, fuck you" and demand that it couldn't possibly be Maya.
Play Paranormasight
>>736209381i sincerely have no idea how they'd fix/reboot the series, as someone who has been a fan since childhood. they just cannot top the twists they've already had in the original trilogy without it being too over-the-top. the only changes they could make would be gameplay-related, which would annoy older fans if it strayed too far from the originals
>>736213383>they just cannot top the twists they've already had in the original trilogy without it being too over-the-topIt's not that unreasonable. Just leave out the old protagonists backstory from the twists and keep the stakes lower, like sub country level. Some post-trilogy twists are really good.
>>736213557It's not unreasonable, but will people really care? I think most people would be happy to just leave the series where it was and not play a new game. I also think a lot of people just don't want to play a new game if they're not up-to-date with the series, like a television show with tons of spinoffs. It just gets exhausting to try to trudge through it
>>736213383>reboot the seriesJust... get a new protagonist and stick to it. Or, you know, make an ACTUAL final entry and end the fucking series. Not everything needs to keep going forever, and retards who keep begging for a new one should be shot.
>>736213656to follow up this oneif you get a new protagonist, please make sure they are the proper focus and don't have them get overshadowed by another character.
>>736209059You CAN, but Investigations is way better than the timeskip shit
>>736213656>get a new protagonist and stick to itAlready did it with TGAA and it flopped bigly.
could feenie or edgey deal with morgan?
>>736214021I mean an actual new protagonist, not some retarded shit like being the ancestor of Phoenix that people can project onto. Completely new setting, characters, world, entirely unrelated to the previous part of the series.
>>736214608Yeah, I wouldn't consider Phoenix Wright in a different time period a new protagonist either.
>>736209059investigations games are better than the main series
