What went wrong?
>>736224609just pirated this. What's wrong with it? I heard people like it
>>736224609I have a billion hours between eu4, hoi3, ck2 andn vicky and I think that despite the initial complexity, when you really get into it, the games aren't really that deep. Some mechanics which could be made to be interesting just aren't viable (like instigating revolt in another cunt). Nothing really to do besides paint the map
>>736224609>EU4 takes way too fucking long and the average player doesn't even reach the reformation in a campaign before moving on>Decide to set the start day 100 years earlier >game moves at the speed of a late game moded campaign from the very start and only gets worse>game past 1500 barely functions but even the devs couldn't be bothered to play a single campaign that long
>>736224609>What went wrong?Their existance, map painters and paraslop both
>>736224712Support rebels is viable, just not in the way you think. It gives you a lot of power projection when you do it on a rival.
>>736224712Provoking civil wars in your enemies in Imperator: Rome is a thing, but that is because things work particularly and the IA can't really manage their country if it gets big.
>>736225120did they end up fixing imperator?
>>736225186It's decent. Definitely beter than EU V right now.
>>736225186Not him, but I consider Imperator to be the best Paradox game. It's not perfect since laws and internal politics needs more work.
>>736224712The systems are actually complex but you don't need to truly understand them to flex on the AI with feats like defeating the Entente alone as Sokoto
>>736224609It's an alright basis. It probably needs 4-5 DLC to become good
>>736224763I wouldn't be surprised if they add the 1444 back in future dlc.
>>736224609Hiring trannies and Indians
>>736228197autismal trannies are the only people making good video games in 2026. The autismal chuds all got canceled so they're whats left
>Paradox builds a devoted audience of paypigs over a decade+>paypigs defend bad launches, bad mechanics, bad ideas>paypigs eagerly buy endless DLC to improve the game they already bought>paypigs insult anyone who dares expect the game they spent $60+ on to be good>Paradox realizes the paypigs have no standards and will defend anything they do>Paradox launches bad games where every mechanic is a minimum-viable product stand-in>Paradox lowers the bar for DLC quality and makes more money even faster>paypigs cheer even harder
>Want to Hormuzmax>Always had fun playing Persian gulf in EU4>Try EU5>It's fucking unplayable>Can't go back to EU4 now that EU5 is out
>>736229817>Can't go back to EU4 now that EU5 is outthat's your own choice anon
>>736229817Why can't you go back to EU IV?Did the software dissapear from your computer?
>>736224609Hyperfocusing on making mechanics for brown tribes instead of going full in for Evropa.Vicky 3 still has no DLC insight for the American Civil War.
>>736230043>>736230063I put like 3000 hours into it over a decade. I can't justify not moving forward with my life. but, goddamn it, there's no better game when you just want to play out a nation's history.
>>736230180>I can't justify not moving forward with my life.This sounds extremely retarded.Do you think I don't play Super Mario World anymore because Super Mario 64 released 4 years later?
>>736230180>I can't justify not moving forward with my life.Mate, what kinda retard logic is that. I still play Morrowind from time to time. Just play what you enjoy.
>>736224609I thought everyone liked EUV. Every post here when it came out was celebrating that mana was found dead in a ditch.
>>736230736People praised it before they actually played it
>>736230736I liked mana. Gave me time to focus on the gameplay while my shit ticked up on its own.
>>736230736The game was released in an incomplete state.It genuinely wasn't ready judging by the later release of the Governor system.They moved in a better direction by ditching mana, but the new systems aren't as refined as the ones in EU4.
>>736230736EUV still has mana though. Every Paradox game, johan points at the new mana and says "it's not mana!" and fucking retards just accept it.
>>736230084>Vicky 3 still has no DLC insight for the American Civil War.Just get the Hail Columbia mod. It's basically an America dlc but free.Cheers to the /vst/ anon who recommended me it.
>>736231376They took a lotta ideas from Meow and Taxes but all the implementations were halfassed/not working properly
>>736232848nta, but that mod looks hella based
>>736225186Modders did apparently
>>736232848>>736233202>Gilded Age, Progressive Era, and Georgism>manifest destiny'ing your way from Alaska to Panama>Constitutionalists getting pissed at you if you try to make America a dictatorship or monarchy or whateverI fucking kneel. Modders win again.
>>736224609Could list myriad reasons why the game sucks but in all honestly they all boil down to one thing: the game is simply not fun to play.
>>736230736After playing it for a couple of hours you start to figure out that most things don't actually work properly/only in the most superficial ways.
>>736224609They pandered to the mod autists and made the game unplayable by moving the start date early. It was such a niche decision to make it makes me wonder what the thought process was, except longer = good.
>>736233956They really wanted to have the plague be a mechanic. Which is strange, because the plague events are already boring the 2nd time you deal with them.
>>736224609it just needs 2 years of dlc to achieve its potential
Upsides of 1337 start:>Hundred Years WarFrance has zero issues controlling their vassal swarm, English AI so bad it can't even form Great Britain anymore>Black PlaguePress the same buttons every time no matter who or where you are, just a waiting game for pops to come back>Red Turban RebellionJust build up your future capital until you can break off from Great Yuan, get a billion CBs to reunify China, get unlimited treasure fleet money>Byzantine LARPImperator was so bad that it was canceled, so let's add Zeus to the 14th century and he'll cast magic spells that give you more food and shit
>>736233509>inb4 paradox adopts this as a paid dlc without compensating the modder.
>>736230084Do you really think the Victoria 3 devs really give a shit about the American Civil War? They don't even believe in World War I, whatever the fuck that means.
>>736230084It's literally impossible to properly have the civil war with the retarded way they have wars work in Vic 3. That was raised as an issue way back in the dev diary they showed how wars would 'work' and dismissed with a "it will just werk bro trust the plan" by paradox sycophants.
>>7362349291337 should be great in theory its just that Paradox is the one making the game. so the mechanics for all the cool shit that happens in this time period are half-baked and broken. To be fixed with dlc of course.
>>736237262The war itself was never the focus in Vicky. It's always the road towards and reconstruction.
