>>736225595
The devs have said a long time that they didnt expected Peak to be that popular and that they would drop updating it so yeah, people gotta accept they dont wanna work on it

>>736225595
Its kinda funny how ingrained GAAS is with faggots now that they just expect it as the default.

NOOOOO IT'S BEEN ONE WEEK SINCE THE UPDATE
I NEED CONTENT
I NEED UPDATE
I NEED NEW THING

>what do you mean a game isn't updated forever for free? Just like blast it with ads or something and give me give me give me!!!!!
Roblox and fortnite has been a disaster for gaming

>>736225975
It's insane, you can read steam discussion pages of fully complete games and people are moaning about the game being abandoned. They fucking finished the game, what the fuck do you mean abandoned?

>>736226132
I saw that on the Dredge forum recently. I had to do a double take that I didn’t accidentally open the wrong link.

>>736226132
it's still a bit odd to get extremely lucky with a game and NOT support it as much as you can, it might be the only real chance you as a studio get to entertain this many players.

>>736225595
Aren't these the guys who got so sensitive they censored a hat?

>>736225595
Unless there's some actual gamebreaking bug, they have no obligation to do shit to the game

Wow, who would have thought that the same devs who abandoned totally accurate battlegrounds would abandon another game after getting the bag?

>>736225595
very true. the product on the shelf is what the consumer is buying. it is for all in tent and purpose a complete product.

>>736225595

don’t make friendslop if you don’t want players treating you like a friendslop dev

>>736226132
>>736226236
And god forbid if someone releases an expansion that costs money. No, you HAVE to make free updates, or at the very least a handful of free updates first

>>736226256
>support it
You can still play it. The idea that a game needs to be constantly changed or added onto is symptom of GAAS and has nothing to do with support

>>736226256
You're working for free on something you probably want to put behind you now rather than using that time and energy on a new project.

>>736226132
I checked and its a bunch of fucking russians and people complaining about the april fools update that added kicking taking over helping people clim up

I hate "journalists" so fucking much. Did the devs use the word ungrateful? How is what was quoted considered a snap back?

>>736225595
>MUST CONSOOM CONTENT WHERE IS CONTENT DEAD GAME DEAD GAME
You know exactly (((who))) are to blame for making American golems behave like this.

Can they at least update it to make performance less dogshit?

>>736226602
This, this is my main complain, but that would mean they have to switch game engine which is almost impossible

>>736226003
It's been
One week since the update peak
Dropped the game to side and said "im going back to league"
5 days since I trolled a noob and said "you just what I knew you where gonna do"

>>736225595
Okay cool, quick question is the game 100% bug free? I.e. not a faulty product?

>>736226814
It always had performance issues desu

>>736226896
They should fix their shit before abandoning it if you ask me. If they dont want to add more content i understand it takes time and resources away from other projects, but atleast fix your comercial product that is already in circulation.

>>736226132
I agree, it's fucking insane to think that a completed game NEEDS updates until the end of time.
However, it's fair for games that were in Early Access because they rarely release fully finished. A lot of the ones I own were still full of placeholders and "COMING SOON" signage on full release.

>>736226290
>picrel
Wait, so is it supposed to be a doll or one of them bondage shit things?

>>736226132
>/v/ says [game] is the best thing ever
>only five years after release it barely has 500 concurrent players on steam, proving it was shit all along
reminder /v/ is full of shills

>>736226273
I want my Pith helmet back I'm not launching PEAK again until it has been returned

>>736227330
Is not gonna happen. They keep replying in the steam forum to people complaining about performance with
>your computer is trash? Lower your settings, turn on vsync and cap fps to the minimum

>>736226814
I have 20 hours in Peak and the only bug I encountered so far was the beetle

>>736225595
people want games to act like live service games but pretend they don't want live service games
I would hate to be a game dev

>Dev works on a game, completes it and releases it
Wooow dead game. Devs abandoned it. Vaporware.

>Dev makes game, releases it, continually updates it (sometimes) for free
Games as a slopvice, unfinished early accslop, free beta testing

>streamerschlop
worthless thread

It's not a right until there's a security flaw and then suddenly it's a right.

They should just make a map editor or modding tools so players can make their own biomes and let the community make their own content.

>>736225595
They are entirely right

When did you people get so reddit? Gamers are right. Devs are fags. Even if they didn't plan to release more update, they could be less sanctimonious and insufferable. Oh well i plan to just ignore this piece of ragebaiting advertising and never play their stupid games

>>736235265
we have got ourselves a proper subhuman in here. marvel in despair at this horrid specimen of dysgenics

>>736226256
They are updating it though, theyre specifically going slow and want to end big updates after this next one because they want to make other games. The success of peak has enabled them to be able to spend more time on their next, which in honestly looks kind of stupid.

They should have gone the route of a peak extended universe type of thing and make games with similar characters in different situations.

If niggas are going to abandon it should make it mod friendly at least and enable the workshop

>>736225595
I thought they said they were gonna update the game every week with a new map?
This is their fault for creating this expectation to begin with.

>>736226132
I've met people that WANT games to have battle passes. They want fomo, currencies, skins, emotes, all that retarded shit. Of course these people are supremely low iq retards that i dont go out of my way to talk to but they exist and they're gonna be the primary consumer demographic soon.

>>736235981
It is called marketing, you lost

>>736225595
People are too used to paying for an early access game labeled as 1.0 and having it get all the content it should have had at release after 5 years.

>>736225595
It's true, they aren't live service. Gaymers got too used to demanding everything they want to be patched.

>>736225595
All the devs needed to say is that the game is finished. If you say that the game will be continually updated, then people will expect that.
It's not entitlement, just expectations that YOU created.

>>736236736
I don't wanna pay for any of that shit, but it mite b cool to have it, so long as it isn't meme shit or holiday shit

>>736225595
Free or paid upgrades doesn't magically turn it into a live service game. The company are entitled retards and wrong.

What the devs actually said:
>"Peak has had sooo many updates tho." "Neither us or Aggro Crab are live service studios, any update is a bonus not a right. We just made a huge update for customising runs, but full customisation is a big ask. However if there are specific suggestions we'd love to hear them. [Regarding] modding, we have a great connection with the modding community, when asking if we should add [a] workshop etc they didn't want it."
>"Last year was our busiest ever, with the PEAK release, Haste, TABS: Pocket Edition, and ROUNDS ports." "We worked on something new for this year, but in the end, it didn't work out. We've stretched ourselves too thin, and the pressure to deliver a new game every year can be a lot on such a small team."
>"Don't worry, we'll still be working on new projects, just maybe at a more reasonable pace."
What the journo portrays it as:
>Brave devs snap back at nasty ungrateful players! These hard-working people say they owe you nothing, you sniveling little worms! You think you're entitled to more content from an $8 game? Go suck an egg, says these devs! They hate you and your demands!
Fuck games journos so much.

>>736235265
You didn't read the article. PC Gamer thanks you for you gullibility and loyal service.

>>736238840
journos are the cause behind 90% of discord in the world.

>>736238840
Ty anon

trifling ass devs...

>>736225595
I knew these devs were faggots when they removed the pith helmet. Haven't played since.

>>736225595
>WE MADE TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WHILE GAME COSTING US $500k and $2k CLAUDE CODE SUBSCRIPTION. HOW DARE YOU EXPECT US TO DO MORE?!

>>736225595
This just seems like lost revenue. If players want live service, then flood the game with an in game cosmetic store or sell content updates as DLC. If players dont bite, then drop the game.

>>736225595
This is why narcotics need to be illegal, except the narcotics this time are UPDOOOOOOOOTS instead of DROOGS. But the fact that it's so harmful is exactly why TPTB want to weaponize them against you.

>>736236736
To be fair, some games do that shit well, like Warframe and early Dauntless.
I haven't played DRG in a while, but I remember their GaaS shit being pretty cool too (it's probably shit now, I assume.)

>>736226132
Games don't need to be hard-line """finished""" in 20XX, there's no physical distribution to worry about, it's just updating some code and hitting an upload button. It doesn't take that much effort to crank out another update to fix some bugs and balance issues for a game that needs it.
A lot of devs are just lazy and move on to the next game because they don't care about boosting their review scores or building good will with their fanbase.
I mean, games don't need to be Terraria or No Man's Sky and update for decades but there's something morally wrong with devs that just shit out a game, fix enough bugs to stop refunds, then run off to go hop on whatever the current bandwagon is.

>make an update worse than what mods had already
>make an April fools that, at best, made the game a little bit harder by not allowing a core teamplay mechanic
>people ask what the future might be since they already worked on content earlier last year, possibly paid DLC involving the pink orb that currently does nothing
>says this
You are not entitled to goodwill just because you already took my money. Just answer the questions and put the fries in the bag, and we'll continue not shitting on you.

>>736225595
they should’ve made the game have better longevity without the need for updates. the maps changing slightly once per week is not good design for player retention. most of the cosmetics being rng gated for items and events that may not appear during a run is also bad design and really only gives you the motivation for a couple more playthroughs at best.

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>>736225595
And they wonder why I don't bother to pay full price anymore.
The worth of a game comes from its state at release and the care of the developer after that and they are currently worth a maximum of 15 bucks, because neither is present in our current vidya industry.

>>736239995
>but there's something morally wrong with devs that just shit out a game, fix enough bugs to stop refunds, then run off to go hop on whatever the current bandwagon is.
You are completely fucking delusional holy shit

>>736239915
Yeah, Modern game devs don't even code anymore, they do 90% of shit by AI and they are still whining.
I'm tired of their bullshit.

>>736239995
>I haven't played DRG in a while, but I remember their GaaS shit being pretty cool too (it's probably shit now, I assume.)
they haven't changed anything. in fact, they've made it so you can go back and do any of the seasons you want, and when you activate a season it will change the missions accordingly (ie if you turn on a robot season, it will spawn more robot events, etc). and for people who don't want to deal with any of that, they also added a season 0 that just has everything normal too. it's great. people also complain about drg being "dead" because content updates have slowed while the devs are working on the new game, but like, drg has plenty of content already, it's ok for devs to do something different. forever games are a blight

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>>736225595
If they aren't monetizing the game I don't think it's a hot take. I agree with it. Updates come at the developers' pace not the gaymers.
The only counterexample I can think of is Early Access games that have been in dev since forever like Project Zomboid (buyers expect the game to be finished in their lifetime).

Landfall usually makes a brand new game for April Fools. This year they added a shitty kick attack for one day. Maybe they really should abandon Peak.

>>736225595
Damn. that's kind of a shitty mindset of these devs to have. probably gonna avoid this one. asking for bug fixes is not entitlement lmao.

Hopefully retards will stop buying "incomplete" games instead of just hoping for the best when it comes to updates and hollow promises.

The customer is always WRONG ok?
Women are being harassed online over this so shut up and listen little gamer

>>736240495
They used to make bangers like TABG. Sad!

Just charge for updates? I don't think many people would complain

>>736225595
the crashout begins.
It's a shame, I liked this studio.

>>736225595
They are clearly too retarded to see that people don't really care if every biome is super amazing and unique and would probably accept a pallet swap if meant some cool extra terrain generation

>>736225595
that depends on how broken and buggy the game still is or not

>>736225595
True as long as they didn't launch broken like most games.

>>736225595
shit game and shit devs
waaaaah someone called out my scamming

>>736236736
That's the future. Zoomers and alpha are raised on live service games, it's all they know

>>736225595
>pay real money that I worked hard for on some piece of shit friendslop simulator
>demand more content for this barebones piece of shit
>devs call me entitled despite me CHOOSING to give them my hard earned cash when I could have bought some other trash game whose devs would actually be grateful

>>736239995
I don't think the issue is people begging for bug fixes, it's them begging for new content. It's unreasonable to expect devs to support multiplayer games with new content forever, especially if the game isn't setup for monetization like paid skins or battlepasses to help fund those updates (unless you're Terraria. Those guys are insane).

>>736225595
>make thing
>blows up, people love it
>we love this thing we hope you do a few updates since you became overnight millionaires :)
>NO THIS ISNT FORTNITE KILL YOURSELF
will never support them again. ungrateful cunts

>>736236736
Young people never grew up in a world were things are not live services.

>>736243129
>It's unreasonable to expect devs to support multiplayer games with new content forever
nobody said anything about "forever" I hate how you reddit niggers always make up a strawman to defend corporations

>>736243129
Yea it’s so fucking crazy how terraria just keeps getting free shit, you can tell they just do it because they love making shit for the game. They could have easily made a terraria 2 with all the stuff they put into the game or did a paid dlc pack

>>736225595
>unity asset flip with barely any content makes millions
>devs can you add more content please?
>devs: SUCK MY BALLS YOU ENTITLED GAMERS
why do all game devs share the same whiny personality?

>>736243808
it's the hypocrisy of them using the word entitled at all. like you made a little meme game that sold literally hundreds of times more copies than expected and are now refusing to thank the community who made you rich, and have the audacity to call them entitled? That's ironically the most entitled shit I've ever seen a dev do. Fuck them

>>736226132
V Rising

even if i pay 1€ for something i expect it to work perfectly
suck my dick shitty dev
but seeing the pic.i bet that shit is not worth playing for free

What is causing people's brains to turn into fatbergs? is it the corn-based diet? phones? propaganda?

>>736225595
i only ask that video games be clean and free of bugs when the developer moves on, all loose ends tied up and such. of course they have the right to move on to new projects, but it is such a shame to see a game left unfinished.
workshop/mod support is also nice and arguably better than a regular content update to the game, because then fans are allowed to create and play any amount of content they want for the game for as long as they want.
right now i think peak is in a good state to let go, but there are just a handful of annoying fucking shit bugs like how giving a helping hand to another scout can sometimes drain their stamina bar completely.

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>>736225595
I took the time to read this article and none of the quoted text from landfall has anything derogatory to say about its customers, the “journalist” in question is framing the article is very obviously trying to justify her grievances with gamers using landfalls quotes as a shield. If the sensationalism stopped after the headline the i would have written it off as click bait, but it doesn't and is just bias.
Reminder, you don't hate journalists enough

>for years indie devs were happy to keep working on their games and make free updates while asking for the Labour of Love award
>apparently now if you want a developer to actually give his game some post-launch support you're a ungrateful bitch who wants every game to be le live service
I said this many times before, but I will say it again: indies turned into spoiled bitches and are getting more loud and open about it each month. They need to be whipped.

>>736225595
I feel like most of the updates made it worse, same with REPO. The new biomes always felt like they had too much shit going on compared to the original ones

>>736244916
Fucking assholes. Wanting pointless things like being paid for their work so they can eat. They should all do it for the fun of it like how you go to work every day and have refused to be paid anything.

>>736225595
>hit jackpot
>squander it
I would milk every cent out of a game if it ever got popular and if not personally, than i would higher some qualified labor to do so. No business sense whatsoever

>>736225595
This game is slop and only retarded YouTubers/streamers “like” it (and only like getting views from the game).

>>736244916
indie games became super popular as AAA games declined in popularity and now indie devs are doing exactly the same shit AAA devs did, being parasitic, money hungry scums.
I guess it's a human thingy, when you see money you want more and your morals go away.

>heckin gamer chuds bad, upvotes to the left

>>736225595
Of course """"journos"""" would jump at a chance to call gamers entitled.

>>736245164
>Morality means... GIVING ME FREE THINGS!!!
>ANYONE NOT GIVING ME FREE THINGS IS IMMORAL!!!
>Why yes I support socialism, how could you tell?

>>736225595
then they should stop updating the game so mods don't break
actual retard devs that are unable to fix bugs that have been plaguing the game since release and this is the attitude they have towards their customers when they ask for basic fixes

>>736225595
Isn't Peak notoriously buggy and un-optimized to the point it even crashes often on high-end PCs? They should at least make it functional before dropping it.

>>736226814
no
>random lunges that will take all your stamina
>climbing ledges will sometimes make you lunge, wasting stamina
>items don't settle properly and will go flying or through the map
>constant disconnects from photon
>sliding has been the deadliest thing in the game since release, you slide 5 feet and the game acts like you fell 30 feet
>retarded update that completely changes a basic game mechanic to something that doesn't help at all, ruining the game for a whole fucking day
>terrible performance to the point they just REMOVED stuff to make it run better, they didn't fix anything or actually try
>devs turn around and say they don't have to update their broken game and that we're entitled for asking for bug fixes or a server browser
they LITERALLY tell you to use discord if you want to play with other players, they give 0 shits and i honestly hope this turns around on them

>>736235507
Nah, Another Crab's Treasure is the only Soulslike that good.

>>736225595
Then make updates DLC? if you don't want to work on the game anymore, say it and simply stop

>>736238840
they spent their time to make collabs in game instead of fixing bugs or adding a server browser
imagine buying a game and the developers themselves tell you to join discord to play with other people
imagine going to that discord but no one actually posts links and everyone is just circlejerking

>>736245808
>notoriously buggy and un-optimized to the point it even crashes often on high-end PCs
More or less, yeah. Something about how the game stores and loads data, turning it into unoptimized garbage if you're playing alone or multiplayer.

>>736235265
Imagine getting tracked by a journo, is there anything more reddit than that?

>Being hostile to fans
This friendslop is going to die now lol

Why the rude tone?

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>>736226132
I want my fucking hat back

>>736225595
Dude, if your fucking game has bugs and issues that causes weird crashes and other shit to happens, then you're obligated to fix that shit. Imagine if someone rented a movie and the last 5 minutes of the movie glitched out and you didn't get to see how it ended. Movie-buffs would go an a rampage, but for some weird reason gaming companies can get away by releasing games in fucking beta and alpha quality and not be held responsible?!

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>be millennial
>grow up with games that you just bought once
>the game is, and remains, the game it was when purchased
>no updates of any kind with the one exception of the dev releasing a paid expansion for the game at a later date
>2026
>gamers aren't happy unless they have the constant stimulation of new levels/maps/characters to rush through and get bored with

it cannot be understated how much damage the last twenty years have done to the collective attention spans of younger generations

>>736247574
"gamers" just want the basic bugs to be fixed, like the lunge happening constantly when it shouldn't, or items flying off and disappearing
that or they can leave the game alone and not update it so mods don't break

>>736247412
controlled pr suicide
you can write off loss from tax reports most likely and save some money
watch this shit company getting bought out as the devs exit the market

>dude, it's actually bad when devs actually polish their games and give them extra content!!!
I'm sure people back in the day were perfectly happy when games were left with notorious bugs left unfixed. The difficulty bug in original XCOM, the awful technical state of Terror from the Deep, Daggerfall in general, Emperor of The Fading Suns releasing in a highly broken state... various bugs and glitches people had to just accept... etc etc etc.

>>736247838
we're apparently entitled because we want a functioning product and not gay ass collabs that do nothing for the game

>>736225595
i dont know why people are so quick to antagonize the people giving them money

>>736244806
I wonder how many times journos have baited people into shitting on devs like this and used it to justify their hatred towards gamers.

>>736247838
in the past they had the decency to at least give some modding capabilities to games or have passionate fans build them themselves, these days the lock down systems just to fuck with its fans see stalker enhanced editions

>>736247921
modern day games perfectly incapsulate what the title has to say about devs and their customers. If anything i want AAA to take the indie scene with them in the big reset

>>736226132
>REFILL MY SLOP TROUGH THIS INSTANT
>X AND YOUTUBE SHOW ME ENDLESS CONTENT WHY DONT YOUUUUU
Alphabrains, probably

>>736245661
>make shit ton of money with your slopperino low effort game
>abandon it
>whine about gamers being entitled because they want you to put some efforts in it as you have resources now
OH MY GOD! EVIL SOCIALIST GAMERS.

>>736225595
ok then make paid dlc? what's the issue.

early access PC slop melted gamer brains. they think a game is supposed to be 'updated' with content for 5 years now.