Explain to me how routinely genociding innocents and taking their land and resources is supposed to make people find you sympathetic.
>>736225896I mean, you wouldn't want to be on the wrong side of history, would you?
>>736225896Force and the willingness to apply it is the only thing that matters. People will follow absolute power regardless
>>736225896Yeah, we should really be giving the Night Elves more shit for what they did to the Trolls.
>>736225896You don't have to be.I guess you can kind of have to be in W3 and WoW, but that was we lore started to get messy, contrived.
>>736225896>orcs pillage, rape, and murder under the plausible culpability of demon blood influence>get defeated and put in work camps>escape and move to kalimdor>grommash says to thrall he drank the blood willingly>start the WoW faction conflict over ashenvale lumber>find the uncorrupted mag'har in outland, one of them is garrosh>war with the alliance while fighting the lich king>war with the alliance while deathwing shits all over the place>find a new land, guess we gotta war with the alliance on it>go back in time so that all the orcs are uncorrupted, they chimp out anywaywhy even say they wuz gud boyz in WC3 if they were gonna do this
>>736226453Trolls deserved worse.
>>736225896They decided to adopt Dark Spears and Tauren instead of genociding them. That shows that Thrall's Horde is a Horde of peace and redemption. Don't ask why Thrall recruited blight brewing undead assassins and cultists purely to keep a stranglehold on the north part of the map when he loves peace so much.
But enough about Israel.
>>736227940They didn't even do work at the camps, they were there because the old Alliance were too chicken shit to just genocide the rest of the alien invaders on Azeroth. It would've been totally justified at the time (and more now) because the Orcs had invaded with the whole intention of killing all life on the planet at the behest of a demonic legion.
>>736225896>make designated brown people faction>chimp out>we didn du nuffin>we wuz tricked>it happened against the white people faction>brown people player clap and cheer>das rightit aligns with its playerbase
>>736225896okay wise guy apply that logic to the middle east, east/west coast and asian self-racism
>>736225896This guy looked impressive before I realized he had a totem on his back, not some kind of a pendant on his chest.
>>736228330I'd rather ask why Forsaken undead are even in the same faction as orcs, their former enemies in past wars. They should be either with humans, their relatives, since they got their minds back, or just on their own.
>>736234160Sylvanas killed all the undead who regained their humanity and tried to reunite with their families. I would also like to add all of their families were hugging and accepting their Forsaken relatives. None of them survived. The Horde are just amoral sadists, maybe even on the same level as dolphins or chimps emotionally speaking.
>>736235824>Sylvanas killed all the undead who regained their humanity and tried to reunite with their families. IWhen did that happen?
>>736225896Ask any white, western woman.
You think followers of Khorne use toilets?Like it's more chaotic and violent to just shit where ever you want but that's also more of a Nergal thing so you would think they want to avoid feeding into those facets of corruption.I genuinely can't figure out if shitting where and when you please would make sense for any typical chaos thrall. It seems silly that any faction would care about plumbing and tidy bowel movements.
>>736225896bro did you play the warcraft 3 campaign?everything on kalimdor needs to die (except tauren). yes even the nigger elves. they're all violent savages, unironically, worse than orcs even
>>736236474It's WoW, retardo-kun.
>>736236474With space magic and sci fi tech you can come up with solutions.
>>736236193>>736235824Also, in my mind, undead being in Horde is just one of those mmo things.When mmo mechanics influence story, lore, too much.They need one more "race", so they put undead in there. A lot of evils stem from the fact that player race is tied to faction. Think how much that handicaps writing, you can't have shifting alliances and more elaborate diplomacy.
>>736236193It's in the pre-BFA novel, but he's misremembering it. She signed off on a picnic for the Forsaken and their living relatives on the express condition that no Forsaken turn traitor and try to stick around afterwards, which Anduin agreed to. Calia Menethil was secretly attending (with Anduin's blessing) and actively told the Forsaken to defect. When Sylvanas caught on, she formally ended the picnic, called for her people to leave, and shot down all of the traitors who stuck around (and also Calia).
>>736237396Oh, I remember that, but that is late in WoW lore, I was asking more about back in Vanilla, because in my mind WoW had bad lore and worldbuilding issues from the start. How it handled races, factions being the main thing.
>>736225896Night Elves, by their own admission, have wiped out countless races. Source: WC3. Where's the QQing over that?
>>736237531Night elves have hot chicks in bikinis. Orcs are basically niggers complete with the slavery lore. That's the difference
