ROSS IS GOING TO PARLIAMENTALERT ALERTMOLDMAN HAS BREACHED CONTAINMENTALERT ALERThttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmXZpf3K0ow
>>736242482TOTALMOLD SATURATION
>>736242520FUCK OFF UBISOFTEAT SHIT AND DIE
>>736242482will he put on a proper shirt this time?
>>736242482Ubisoft is already going bankrupt. Do you think this lawsuit will be the final tipping point to make them go under for good?
>>736242482P-PIRATESOFTWARE BROS???
>>736242692didn't Saudis buy it? or tencent
>>736242692BRING IT DOWN BRING IT DOOOOOOWN
>people are happy to see him on his knees begging the government to regulate gamesgrim
>>736242889t: Corposlorper
>>736242889It's clearly gone too far that the only recourse is government intervention.
>>736242889All signs are pointing it to being like 5 corpo shills on their knees begging the government to not regulate them while they suffocate on mold spores.
>frogs bringing out the guillotine for ubisoftyou love to see it
>>736242889>amerimutt postIn europe by law it is fully legal to resell your used licences for premium software. Just a little bit of European lore you should know. I'm here if you want to know about other ways in which EU protected consumer rights over corporate profits.
EU chads wonAmerimutts lost
>>736242889
>>736243187More like 5 corpo shills stuffing the politicians pockets while laughing at the homeless guy
>parliament wants ross to speak as the guest of honorit's never been more over for ubisoftthere's no escaping mold man
>>736242482Josh Strife Hayes should be the permanent spokesman for SKG moving forward. It should be him talking to government bodies and not this weird looking guy that can't even dress properly.
>>736243386Lol i joined that fags discord the other day and it had open image perms. Spammed porn and tranny gore for like 15 minutes straight before a mod woke up. Shit was cash
>>736243386I'm sure one of his three viewers will bring this up on his streams
What amerimutt corposhills believed>NO ONE WILL CARE!!! GOVERMENT WON'T DO SHIT!!! WHY WOULD THE EU CARE?! JUST GIVE UP!!!What is happening in the EU in reality>so you're saying... that when you legally pay for your videogames... corporations can just disable said product thus blocking you from what you legally paid for? *SNIFFF* I smell... corporations violating consumer rights for profit... again. Bring me the papers...
maldavius figtree status?
I can't wait for him to be publicly humiliated
Insane behaviour
>>73624364520 ferrets up his ass.
>>736242482>the last thing some politician see's before getting replaced with a identical mold replica
>>736243642>consumer rightsmurican here, you got that in europe?
>>736242692Yes and then all devs will use this as an example of how Stop Killing Games is destroying the industry completely glossing over the real reasons Ubisoft died.The industry will use Ubisoft to kill SKG
>>736243467I have full confidence in Ross, watch his game dungeon reviews, he goes off on corporate and law enforcement tangents occasionally and is very insightful, backs up what he says with data and studies and somehow makes it entertaining to watch.
>>736242482Keep Killing Games.
>>736243793Perhaps you're right. I hope he does well.
>>736242889>grimGrim
Where did the "everyone forgot about SKG" guy go? I thought he said the movement fizzled out?
>>736242482Rape corposBehead corpos >>736242520Total Amerimutt Death
>>736243838>Keep>not Start to keep the acronym
>muh fake votes>it wont reach the parliament>the movement died!
>>736243467>Josh Strife HayesHe's a feelsgood grifter
burgerbros how do we stop him? he's going to kill ubisoft!
>>736243838Get ye gone, Ssor
>>736244107He's very good at talking to important people.
>>736242482Ross not attended law school right?He has a degree in what?
>>736244032Maybe.I think it rolls off the tongue.Also it's only one letter away from KKK. :^)
rien de personnel, ubisoft
Bros... is he going to be taken out? Someone watch over him at that guest of honor thing.
>>736243753Welcome to the mold, son.
>>736242482at the tempo its going you guys will get your SKG in 50 years lmao
>>736242889the government didn't add horse armor DLC to my games
>>736243770YesMost of your own consumer rights probably derive from what we impose on your corps. Even if it comes edulcorated
>>736244464
>>736243467Fuck no.
>>736244190Video game analysis
>>736243642>*SNIFFF*Imagine the smell.
>>736243926He's the same person as OP
>>736244641Duality of men?
>>736242482> They're literally bending the rules to allow Ross, who does not have the requisite citizenship, to still Parliament as entourage to Moritz et al. in the form of an invited speaker, which is normally reserved for subject-matter experts - y'know the kind with doctorates and shit - and the EU is allowing it.Wow, all those doomsayers insisting in spreading their toxic narrative that the EU would play this handsies-offsies like the UK did, are getting a double-serving of crow on their plates tonight...Also; holy fuck at the Ubisoft case. That is MUCH bigger than you might initially realize.Que Choisir is going straight for the jugular. They're going to take point on reinforcing the position that under common EU Civil Law implementation of copyright and IP, consumers have a right of use inherent to ownership of the copy of the work itself - regardless of the ancillary license conditions, which limits what those license conditions can do it. They're actually doing it. They're finally taking the wrecking ball to the status supreme of 'the license.'
>>736243479
>>736244464>"You will win in the end but it will take a long time!"A victory is still a victory sucks that tons of games will die in that 50 year timeframe though.
>>736243793This. Ross knows how to play the game and he WILL make the politicians fear for their life if they do not comply
>>736242604He already did, last time.
>>736244715No, just a way to bait for replies to one's thread.
>>736243379Amerimutts are going to have to stomach an invasion by EU chads, even.After the news that they're gearing up a European NGO to help give SKG a sustained voice in government lobbies, came the news that Moritz is taking regular trips to the States to help set up a US NGO with a few likeminded individuals there. And apparently they've already secured funding from several prominent backers who wish to remain anonymous for now.(Wanna bet Louis Rossman and others from the right-to-repair movements in the US are involved there somehow?)
TUD
>>736242482Why is America so bad at protecting consumers and all good things we get we do because of the EU?
>>736244152Ubisoft killed Ubisoft.Ross is just ... ministering the funeral.
>>736245250Videogames was mostly a cultural and technological exchange between the US and Japan for the entirety of its existence.
>>736243467Josh is a massive retard who doesn't know anything about anything and just talks in circles.These days all he does is cry piss shit and moan every time someone is even remotely negative towards him, while putting up the "I'm such a hard man, this doesn't bother me" act
>>736245250>Why is America so bad at protecting consumers and all good things we get we do because of the EU?There's no limit to how much you can donate to politicians, so corporations have enormous influence. Where I live you can only donate 100 dollars maximum per year.
>>736242482ufc que choisir being basé as usual
>>736242482Ah yes, because more government overreach is what we need! This totally won't effect the indie gaming industry negatively at all!...You lot are morons. I hope there is nobody here sincerely supporting this, or the future of gaming could be doomed.
>>736243770Sometimes yeah
>>736243467>that can't even dress properlyHey he wore a nice shirt last time
>>736245408Get new material. You shills are boring to argue with now.
>>736245408ah yes, the famous indie live service games
>>736245408>This totally won't effect the indie gaming industry negatively at allStill going with this? Literally THINK OF THE CHILDREN type shit.
>>736245250because ronald reagan
>trying to make this a USA vs EU thingwhat blew up in Iran today?
>>736245250Extreme lobbying.
>>736244294Why did you make Pepe's eyelids white?
>>736245408Unturned is a multiplayer indie game made by a single 16 year old and has dedicated servers. Kill yourself.
>>736242889Regulating corporations isn't regulating games
>non-stop "americans bad" postingThis happens in every SKG thread and it is a divide-and-conquer tactic. Ross is an American. Most Americans are pro-consumer. Do not believe what your media tells you. Do you genuinely believe the American populace has control over our own government? If you don't think that, then why would you believe that the actions of the government have anything to do with the feelings of the people? If you do believe it, I've got a bridge to sell you.The 'muh commies' and 'muh big gubmint' are not representative of American sentiments, they are blatant shills and shitposters. You're a complete moron if you can't see that. Corporations run this country and they control the narrative, especially in mainstream media. That's bad and to a certain extent it's on us, but no country is without a powerful elite pulling the strings from behind closed doors. Do not fall for this shit. It's just another tactic to make Average Joe (Euro) hate Average Joe (USA) and vice versa, instead of focusing their attention on the entire point of this initiative in the first place: the corporations are fucking both of us.
>>736245725American cope. You are the greatest evil that has ever existed and will exist.
>>736245408The "indie" gaming industry is a disgusting cesspit that could use a good torching to burn away the filth
>>736245525Reagan is one of the best country leaders of the 20th century.
>>736245829No one under 50 believes that anymore.
>>736245250the U.S. Supreme Court as its own entity has more power than the entirety of the EU, even if yhe EU did pass something like that the actual effect would be minimal
>>736243386It was funny to see him bummed out when Ashes of Creation, the game he was excited for just rugpulled everyone out of nowhere.
>>736245725Amerimutt cope YOU NEED TO KILL YOURSELF RIGHT FUCKING NOW
>>736243770Yes, we don't have an unelected-for-life supreme court deciding to overrule our constitutional rights because "People are getting older now, we need EU parity, I didn't consider the implications and it follows the precedent we set when we used the law to shut down discussion of Nixon's presidential pardon" (Eldred v. Ashcroft 2003).
>>736245725>thread about EU doing something>full of murrikans defending corpos and seething about communismIf you have a problem with corpos then you need to do something about them. Like every fucking country on earth.
>>736245829Hey boomer, Satan is calling.
>>736245525The Citizens United v. FEC case was from 2010 under Obama.That's what allowed unlimited lobbying which was previously restricted even under Reagan.You can blame Reagan for a lot of things but this isn't one of them.
>>736245725>Most Americans are pro-consumerIf that were true trump would not be in office.Americans love to suck corporate dick and everyone knows it.
>>736246072The corpo in question is French.
>>736245725Wishing all Americans death rn
>>736245725Great Satan and the defense of its incestuous bastard children, corporations, must be stopped. t. American
>SKG thread>it's full anti-Americanism and for anons to literally just shitpost about the US like it's resetera
>>736245950It would lock an entire continent away from a certain practice. Either they stop the practice or stop selling in the EU.
>>736246196preach man, the govt can do no wrong
>>736242482>hearing with the EU parliament is four days after the elections in HungaryPlease Ross, you have to stop Orban with your mold before he can flee to Russia and avoid accountability.
>>736245950>AAA studios will stop selling games in EUAMERIMUTTS ACTUALLY BELIEVE THIS
>>736246196it's probably Jason trying to muddy the waters he posted on /v/ defending himself, after all, and all the shitposts are 1 minute apart
>>736243386>I actually forgot about this guy, it was entertaining watching new videos exposing xhis retardation
>>736242692>Ubisoft is already going bankrupt.It's not, it has a few cash cows.
>>736245601>has dedicated serversHAD.They were shut down years ago, but because it had an end of life plan you can still play it through user hosted servers so that game wouldn't even be affected by SKG.Retard.
>post yfw Ross pulls a Mr Rogers at the senate, in parliament https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKy7ljRr0AA
>>736246120Doesn't matter. Shitmerican corporate cuckoldry has no borders. They will voice their castrated status towards any billionaire. They are international slaves. World's most kiked bitches and whores. They even simp for Jack Ma and Jimmy Lai.
>>736245950>usb-c
>>736242889what else is he supposed to do? Kill everyone at ubisoft? Kill everyone in the AAA industry? Let's be realistic, nobody is killing tens of thousands of people at once all over the world. You are just a worthless seething subhuman shitskin lashing out in a classic disingenuous fashion
>>736246516>Kill everyone at ubisoft? Kill everyone in the AAA industry?If only.
>>736242482>all of this for some mediocre racing from 12 years agothis has to be a grift on a massive scale. there are probably less than 10 single player online only games and none of them are good anyway. as for MMOs, literally nobody fucking wants to play them offline. this dude made a viral campaign over nothing and it most likely will have severe negative consequences because politicians touching video games had never lead to anything good.
>>736246365>he thinks the law won't get chopped into something completely harmless because the EU doesn't actually have enough power to make such a sweeping change
>>736246404That was my point but I worded it wrong
>alternating between anti-american and pro-american shitposting while replying to yourself you know there are other ways to organically bump the thread, right?
>>736242482Finally some good fuckin news
>libertarians want you to own nothing and be happyhuh?
>>736246554Yes, that's exactly what this is all about, and there's nothing you can do to stop it. Millions of people voted for this. Now cry (even more).
>>736246027>Another key factor in upholding CTEA was a 1993 European Union (EU) directive instructing EU members to establish a baseline copyright term of life of the author plus 70 years, and to deny this longer term to the works of any non-EU country whose laws did not secure the same extended term. By extending the baseline United States copyright term, Congress sought to ensure that American authors would receive the same copyright protection in Europe as their European counterparts.Not the hill you want to die on.
>>736246554Really shit attempt at concern trolling, corposhill.
>>736246554>there are probably less than 10 single player online only gamesThere should be none.
>>736242482It took an American to save games for Europe (and the world)...
>>736242604>Noooo you can't just wear comfortable clothing! You have to wear a suit and tie because.... because you just do okay???
>>736246758They believe they are going to be the ones owning everything so if anyone else owns anything that's a threat to their own well-being.
>>736242482The white man fights for me.Based.I always liked Europeans.
>>736247194>Nooooo you can't just wear your cumrag tshirt to the european parliament to represent millions of people worldwideYes, unironically. You are an autistic retarded nigger if you think otherwise and nobody ever takes you seriously for obvious reasons.
>>736245725>all the seething replies>none can address why Ross (an American) is the one leading euros to better consumer laws, instead of a native European
>>736246758why would a libertarian be against affirming the meaning of the word 'buy' as the transfer of ownership of a product?
>>736247194go to a family funeral in pajamas next time, see what happens
>>736246554It's about doing everything in our power to hasten the second collapse of the necrotic and stinking AAA game industry since their newfound braindead consumer base refuses to let it happen on their own
>>736247346SKG has nothing to do with that. you're still getting a license
>>736247159The only American that is useful to the world.
>>736245725love this man
>>736245725the previous 6 replies to your post are probably all the same guy
>>736247346Turns out lolbertarians actually just want corporations to be able to get away with literally anything so long as they write down on the piece of paper that what they're doing is OK
>>736242482I don't think this will pass because this destroys the whole premise of game streaming and CEOs want streaming to be the future.
>>736247346Because that's what zero dialectics does to a person
>>736243009>t. govt fellator
>>736242889I am American and I say FUCK the (((free market)))
>>736246619Oh, sorry for the hostility then.
>>736245725No more fighting among gamers on either side of the pond. Death to all corpo shills.
>>736242482>UFC Que choisirLmao Ubisoft is fucked
>>736246431the brexit geezers won't even give him a full minute before cutting his mic
>>736242482Why do mods delete these actual vidya threads but let asmon crap stay up?
>>736247714Based.
VIDEOFUCKINGGAMES??????
>>736248000yep we're saving video games
>>736248000This is about the salvation of video fucking games, yes.
>>736248000Check'd. yes, it's about video games.
>>736245725t. commie
>>736248000Yes.
>>736248000
>>736246970It still goes against the rights guaranteed in the constitution and pretends that congress has powers that it doesn't have (limited times motherfucker), you can't just circumvent that for "EU parity" because you're jealous.
>>736248072>>736248065>>736248051
>>736245725I mean, it's mostly Americans I see posting dumb shit elsewhere like "using an adblocker is stealing" or "emulators are immoral" so they don't help their case much, but yes in general it's not the citizens that fuck you over, it's the companies.
>>736248137What is this?
>>736247714video games wouldn't exist without businesses and the free market
>>736242482BASED moldman FUCK ubishartFUCK always online GAASslopFUCK not owning anything and "being happy about it">>736247346because they have something to gain by gaming the system and fucking over the consumers without any "cuckold nannying oversight" or whatever spindoctoring they come up with so they can keep fucking you over
>>736248137Nice selfie you've got there
>>736242889This. Lets get rid of copyright law, since its an unnecessary regulation that hampers people and their ability to enjoy games.
>>736248051>>736248065>>736248072>e-celeb worship and whining over live service ubislop like The Crew™not video games
>>736248290>e-celeb worshipDo better next time.
>>736248290Live service garbage is the most popular form of gayming right now.It's more relevant than ever.
>>736248000>>736248137>>736248290You do realize that shitposting is against the rules and enables anyone to report your posts, right?
>meeting about to start>corpo rep whispers in the judges' ear>"AH YEW TELLIN ME DIS BLOKE WANTS TO KILL ALL MY SON'S FOOTBOW VIDEYO JAMES?">"CASE DISMISSED!!!!"
>>736247617Have you ever heard about the idea of checks and balances? Both factions should limit each other so that neither has total power over the people. The ideal economic system is a mixed economy where neither corpos nor the govt has full control.
>>736248596Fuck corpos to hell they should have no power at all
Thank you Pirate Software.Say it
>>736248690m
>>736248156I can see you've never really met a American. We all use ADBlocker, and everyone and their mom is using emulators. You should step away from the Internet and out of your European bubble every once in a while.
>what could otherwise be a project that furthers consumer rights was bastardized by an ugly chud treating it like his own creation and attaching several illegal strings that make it impossible for any court or parliament to take it seriouslyMy schizo theory is that Ross is paid by the corpos to sabotage this
>>736248596>checks and balancesonly relevant for the state. You can "check" and "balance" a poor product or service by not doing business with them>The ideal economic system is a mixed economywrong. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_to_moderation
>>736248793Dumb Aquafag is dumb.
>>736248787I am Canadian. I am literally quoting some people I met in Florida a few years ago at a card shop.Step off 4chan for a second and talk to some normalfags for once in your life.
>>736245725Sorry not sorry, but America needs to go.
I'll be laughing so hard when the European Government uses this to overreach as they usually do and ban videogames all togetheryou get what you vote for
>>736248787>We all use ADBlockerI've heard an American streamer say he doesn't use adblock because he thinks the corporations that make the ads deserve the money for their work. I wish I was joking. He's not the smartest streamer, yes, but there's many like him in your country.
>>736248793Ross can't be bought off by the gaming corpos as he's already in the pocket of Big Rickshaw.
>>736249049All Americans are like that, there isn't a single one who isn't. Anyone saying otherwise is lying.
>>736249030>Don't ever press the government to do anything, or else they might do something you DON'T want them to>Nevermind that they already do things you don't want them to independantly>Nevermind the other side is already pressing them to do things you don't want
>>736248838>You can "check" and "balance" a poor product or service by not doing business with themYou must be blind if you think it works, you must be blind if you think that competitors won't agree behind closed doors to follow the same enshittification pattern in order to keep raking money, you must be blind if you do not see that they are all owned by largely the same investors who bring these ideas because they all bring same short term profits that they desireAnd what happens in case of monopolies? What if you literally do not have a choice of product because everything is owned by the same company? Free market isn't omnipotent and can be rigged, and it keeps happening
>>736245725I express solidarity with the nonretarded Americans. Thanks for the good that you occasionally do. Hopefully EU sorts this killing videogames thing out and it trickles down to you
>>736249049Streamers are not human but that's even shocking to hear for me as an American. I never met anyone against ADBlocker.
>>736248914Canadian in Florida? You're India which is not Canadian or lying because no said that. I live in America, no is against ADBlocker lol
Furret status?
>>736245408>nooo saying theft is illegal is going too far fag
>>736247971Who gives a fuck about what the britbongs have to say, retard?
>>736249661In California it's not. (:
>>736249030They will also use it as an excuse to force us into wearing silly hats. The voices!
>>736249230>competitors won't agree behind closed doors to follow the same enshittification patternwho is forcing you to buy "enshittification" products? >And what happens in case of monopoliesshow me a single example throughout human history where a monopoly was maintained for several decades without government interference?ironically, the only true monopolies are governments
>>736245408>This totally won't effect the indie gaming industry negatively at all!Which is how? There is no legit answer without willfully ignoring what SKG means.
>>736242482Since when has the american federal government ever listen to anything the American people want?
>>736249921And you're ok with that?
>>736249973Obviously not but fags like you cried when they stormed the capitol building on Jan 6th cuz it was the end of democracy
>>736242482Finally some good fucking news.
>>736250090nice strawman
>>736249921Maybe that's why EU is doing shit instead?
>>736245725Gamers of the world unite
>>736248184The free market is also how we get aluminum in baby food, planned obsolescence, $500 insulin, Dodge v. Ford Motor Co, trickle down economics, and elsa gate. I am tired of the free market and I hope euCHADS continue to rape and gape American companies
>>736245408>t. dying for epstein
>>736242482This dude seriously needs to wax
>>736245467Grow a pair, homo.
>>736250429stop thinking about balls faggot
>>736249813Oh god it's this retard again.
>>736250305Free market doesn't exist and never had, because if it did, kikes would scam you even harder than they already are. The government puts limits on them for a reason.If it wasn't for the government, nestle would put asbestos in their shit to cut corners. But they don't because the government won't allow them to sell it
>>736245250Like other anons said, years of lobbying by companies has resulted in America becoming their playground. You can buy politicians, so it's impossible for consumers to outbid corporations who have an interest in keeping things anti-consumer.
>>736242482>ufc fighting for gaymer rightslike the mma ufc? lol
>tfw the poopgnome hits the p-spot
>>736245250Not letting corps rape you is socialism or something
>>736250480then grow a pair or meds, sperg.
>>736242889All they're asking for is for developers to plan ahead when they're making games. If it's a game that can be played mostly in a single player context like The Crew, issue a patch at the end of service that removes the online requirement and keeps the game in a mostly functional state, even if they choose to stop selling it to new customers.If it's a strictly multiplayer game, they need to devote some time during development to creating a plan to let players continue playing the game after they decide it's not worth supporting official servers for. Maybe that means releasing server binaries at end of service so private, dedicated servers can be set up by players and hosted on their own dime, which is how every multiplayer game used to work once upon a time. It's not a hideously big ask. Or, failing that. At least patching out the systems they implemented to prevent players from spoofing the official servers to run private games.None of this changes what they can or can't do during the lifespan of the game. All it does is require them to make some kind of effort to not screw over customers who paid for the game.If you pay for it, you get to keep accessing it in as complete of a form as is feasibly achievable. Maybe you lose out on some online features in a single player game, but the majority of the content is still perfectly playable. Maybe the official servers go down and the matchmaking system, and all the doodads that went with it, get replaced with having to boot up the game client and type in an IP address to connect to a private server and you're playing the game in more or less the state it launched.Imagine you buy a game, and two weeks later, they announce it's ending service in six months. You couldn't have known about that, and you end up with much less for your money than someone who bought in at launch, and you'll be left with intentionally bricked software for your trouble. All this does is prevent that from happening.
>>736245725Based and truthpilled.Ignore the schizo posters. They're all part of a death cult that worship total annihilation of humanity under the guise of patriotism.
>>736250606Teamsports retards can't understand the tightrope of "People shouldn't be allowed to scam me in broad daylight without repercussion" and "90% of my paycheck shouldn't go to a moneypit government"
>>736250305>aluminum in baby food>planned obsolescencedon't buy slop products?>$500 insulinthank govt-approved lobbying >Dodge v. Ford Motor Cobusinesses can distribute profits however they want. Who is forcing you to work at companies like Ford?>trickle down economicsgay strawman. All taxes for any income bracket discourage spending >elsa gateresponsible parents supervise their children and don't let them watch slopany more reddit arguments?
>>736247382I showed up to jury duty in jeans and a t-shirt and they sent me away for being improperly dressed. I told them I didn't own any other clothes and they took my name off the list. Who knew it was so easy to get out of jury duty?
>>736248838This nigga doesn't know what a cartel is>>736249230Don't bother. These kinds of people defend unfettered capitalism without any self awareness. They will complain about corporate greed, the influence of lobbying, all the shit >>736250305 mentioned, but they will never stop to think that maybe these issues are just a natural problem when it comes to capitalism. These people are so irony poisoned that they will do all they can to belittle dystopian fiction like the kind we see in Cyberpunk and say it's just leftist propaganda and will downplay the hatred that people have for how AI is being used just to defend their fragile view that unfettered capitalism is the best system and that no government oversight is needed
>>736243386
>>736250379Doesn't it all grow back anyway?
Cool. Hope it works out for him.
>>736250726Anon when your solution to corporations being nightmares is that every single individual in a market should break into factories and make sure they aren't being served garbage, suddenly you're making a very strong pro-government argument so that the government can fund factory inspectors.
>>736244190he said he studied criminology
>>736250920have you ever owned a business or heard of the concept of reputation? and you do know that private inspections exist right?
>>736251098You've never lived in a system without a state mandating that corporations not rape you to death, you merely ascribe to blind optimism that anarcho-capitalism would just work out and no corporations would ever form a pseudo-state.
>>736249590On vacation you fucking dork, what's wrong with you? No I'm not a fucking poojeet. And why the broken English?
>>736250379He's trying to fit in. According to old movies and adventure games Europeans are all hairy, except Germans.
>>736251098Rotten Meat Co. can pay your inspectors better than you can to tell you everything is okay.>but then they'll have to pay infinite inspectorsNo, they just have to pay the most reputable inspector firms.>but then just hire private inspectors to inspect the inspectors>forever
>>736242482Glad he's finally actually trying to stop games from being killed instead of talking about it. For a while he was originally just gonna back down when he lost which would have made me lose respect for the guy entirely.
>>736242482NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THIS IS NAZISM
Where are we now?
>>736248184Tetris
>>736250642Yeah a simple "You have to list the earliest possible date a game will stop being playable." would suffice for me. Ross also wants a "You also must make the singleplayer content of the game playable post shutdown if it's not already." clause which is also entirely reasonable.Ross afaik isn't currently asking for dedicated servers for every multiplayer game post shutdown or anything like that.
>>736248000Show me some videos fucking some games, please.
>>736245725That's a good point for a dog.
>>736243467>MAIN STREAM METEOR grifter bongoloid who doesn't really care about games should be the spokesperson for SKGfuck off, Josh
>>736251234lets ask again: have you ever owned a business or heard of the concept of reputation?>Rotten Meat Co. can pay your inspectorsis this a serious argument? what does a business gain from poisoning its customers
>>736250726>don't buy slop products?how to do this when all products are slop?
>>736251383>what does a business gain from poisoning its customersanon...
>>736250726>>736249813>>736248838literal low IQ subhuman. thankfully you will be killed off soon in some desert shithole.
>>736251383>what does a business gain from poisoning its customersWell that's the thing, they won't poison everybody, they'll just do as bad as they can. They will release a minimum product for maximum profit, and those profits will crush all competition. Sure, sometimes a baby might die of botulism. But that's like a once every two years phenomenon, and it was the local factory's fault anyway.
>>736251383Is this bait?
>>736250606National socialism? Or rather continental socialism?
>>7362512854chan's /v/ board
>>736251484>>736251420>>736250773>>7362505200 arguments btw
>>736251532He looked so uncomfortable in that place. From start to finish I don't think he laughed or smiled a single time.
>>736250726>yeah man, just be an omnipotent consumer>bro just be an expert in absolutely every facet of life>like wtf bro, why do you not know everything about everything>there's no information and power imbalance between you and corporations, you're just lazy lmaoBesides, ancapistan would exist for all of 5 fucking minutes, until corporations bounds together and discovered the NAP is actually not worth it when you can just use force to get an advantage, and you're back to feudalism at that point.
>>736251337The official stated goals of SKG specifically say that they're also seeking remedies for Multiplayer games. And it lists examples. The bare minimum they're looking for would be to leave the game in what they call a "repairable state." As in, patch out any measures in the client that resist circumvention of the centralized service once that centralized service has been discontinued.Releasing official server binaries at the product's end of life was established as another acceptable remedy.
>>736251554I mean in the grand scheme of the SKG process. First they said we wouldn't reach 100k votes, then it was 500k, 1M, then they said every vote was botted etc. etc.
>>736251575I mean it's hard to argue with you when you're saying something isn't true when said true thing is just common knowledge. Businesses often do poison their customers. You don't win an argument just because you're saying nonsense.>>736251651Yes, but they're STARTING with singleplayer.
is the mycelium the source of his power?
>>736251383You sound underaged
>>736251685Singleplayer is not a legal standard.It would be impossible for them to argue anything on that ground.
>>736251337>Yeah a simple "You have to list the earliest possible date a game will stop being playable." would suffice for me.That's retarded. >Ross afaik isn't currently asking for dedicated servers for every multiplayer game post shutdown or anything like that.He's asking for people to be able to host those servers themselves. And that the devs need to facilitate people being able to do that at the point of shutdown.
>>736251649it takes 10 minutes to research a product. take some responsibility for yourself
>>736242482based TOTAL UBISOFT DEATH
>Mr. Ross, you mention in your mission statement that the end goal of SKG is "preservation". Please define video game preservation to the committee.>video game preservation means every video game on the market is allowed to be legally pirated and provide for free to anyone who wants it>Your SKG motion is denied, thank you Mr. RossAnd just like that SKG dies.
>>736250726Holy fucking retard
>>736251798It takes ten minutes to research a product**under a system where the manufacturers are forced by the government to disclose everything about their product truthfully
>>736251785pure projection. You're a zoomer and never owned a business
>>736245725>>736247860>>736250261Amen, corposhills are the cancer, no matter what corner of the world they come from.
>>736251847>>video game preservation means every video game on the market is allowed to be legally pirated and provide for free to anyone who wants itWhere does it say that?
>>736251850>>7362515050 arguments
>>736251863And you own a business right?
>>736251847>video game preservation means every video game on the market is allowed to be legally pirated and provide for free to anyone who wants itJaon Thor, that you? You making up some more bullshit?
>>736251847SHUT UP AMERIMUTTSHUT UPSHUT UPSHUT UPSHUT UPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>736251798Yes, and who will provide this information? Is it other corporations that work for profit and have an incentive to tell you their products are good? Interesting.Or is it going to be sites that have user reviews that are hosted by a corporation that doesn't have to kowtow to any consumer protection laws so they can just delete all comments they don't like, achieving the same result as the former example.
>>736251854>forced by the government to disclose everything>meanwhile hundreds of VOLUNTARY blogs, articles, YouTube videos reviewing any product you can imagine hmm
>>736251912>>736252008umm....................................................please stop asking such questions?
>>736251847STUPID MUTT LEAVE THIS THREAD NOW
>>736252034How are those VOLUNTARY blogs going to get access to PRIVILEGED information in an atmosphere where the government doesn't enforce transparency, exactly?>just watch four hours of reviews every time you want to buy a product to make sure it isn't poison
>>736251383>I am 12 and what is Asbestos
>>736251912In your next post. Define video game preservation for me. Thanks.
>>736252125Read the initiative, nigger.
>>736251649I feel like ancaps, libertarians, or really, any extreme all or nothing economic theory/ideology, forgets that human nature exists and inevitably corrupts their vision of what should happen.
>>736251847They have no answer to this
>>736252097>How are those VOLUNTARY blogs going to get access to PRIVILEGED informationby using or testing the product? crazy concept
>>736252149I did. He doesn't provide a definition. He simply states it as a given good end goal without even defining what it is. This is because he's a complete fucking amateur midwitt, like yourself.
>>736251847Unironically, if it's impossible to pirate your game and run it offline, it's impossible to preserve this. This is actually a really good benchmark, that should never be brought up out loud.
>>736252240Alright, and say that product has a flaw that could give you cancer in ten years. How are those reviewers going to report it? In ten years when an above average amount of them get cancer? That'll be really useful for the consumer of today.
>>736251847>all these replies, no rebuttal found
>>736252312He gave a goal of the initiative which by definition is their assertion of games preservation, anon.
>gubmint bad, corpo goodLiterally run away from anyone who thinks like this. They are deranged.
>>736252374If you can't define game preservation then stop replying to me. Thanks.
>>736252327>How are those reviewers going to report it?how is the government going to report this? do they have a time machine? Any testing done by the government can be done by a literal who YouTuber - and often much better testing at that
Self replying samefags as far as the eye can see
>>736243467good morning saar
>>736252439>0 arguments your opinions and entire identity comes from Reddit btw
>>736252240How will these VOLUNTARY blogs make money? Won't they optimize to make the most amount of money? Wouldn't that mean they would have an incentive to work together with the corporations and just pretend they don't to keep their reader's trust?
>>736252460>
>>736252439They’re both bad fag, except Hitler, RIP.
>>736252125Game being in a playable state after purchase no matter much time passes
>>736252457>how is the government going to report thisBy engaging in really intensive substance tests and highlighting the presence of the carcinogen. By having the ENTIRETY of the fucking FDA. Are you telling me you think a youtuber can do the job of the FDA?
>>736252523>Replies with a selfieNo need to show us, we know you're a retarded baby.
>>736251847I don't think preservation of legally purchased titles is going to have anything to do with piracy. "Preservation" can just include those legally purchased goods. Though it might leak into what's considered abandonware and what's not.
>>736252457>pay youtubers ten thousand dollars>Good news! We found no dangerous chemicals in AsbestosCorp's discount hemorrhoid cream
Are we at the>american corpos will just leave commieuropecope yet?
>>736249813>who is forcing you to buy "enshittification" products?Companies because there are not alternatives>where a monopoly was maintained for several decades without government interference?There weren't because thankfully government stepped in
>>736245408yep the government boot coming down on corpo necks will be great no more loot box or predator monetization
>>736251847That's not what he's arguing for at all? Just that if somebody buys the game, they should be able to keep playing it, without company suddenly pulling the plug.
>>736242482EATMYENTIREASS
>>736252521Wouldn't that mean they would have an incentive to work together with the corporations and just pretend they don't to keep their reader's trust?Some of them, probably. Do you trust video game reviewers who obviously get paid to shill? And you probably have your own list of trustworthy non-shill reviewers right?
>>736252543RIP to a real nigga
Too many slaves from Israel's slave nation of Muttland in this thread working overtime for their masters interests
If government interference wasn't a thing, what would stop corpos from straight-up assassinating watchdog groups?
>>736252846Why would they care about a franchise as shit as Watch Dogs?
>>736252563>really intensive substance teststhere literally thousands of labs across the United States that can do graduate level laboratory testinga random YouTuber copied 95% of the coca cola formula on his own
>>736252846They do in less developed countries.Coca-Cola was allegedly hiring cartel hitmen to assassinate union leaders.
>>736252952Yeah, and so the only reviewers will need to have access to one of those well funded labs, and the staff to run the constant tests. This all sounds reasonable.
>>736252732>Just that if somebody buys the game, they should be able to keep playing it, without company suddenly pulling the plug.Read his mission statement. He said he wants to end the practice of pulling games because it makes preservation impossible. Not pulling games and video game preservation are two different things, as stated by Ross. He never defines what preservation is.
fungus man with the chitin plan
>>736253031Pinkertons are eveywhere.Especially right behind you.
>>736252830You'll survive anon
>>736251196Stinky arabs and turks have lots of body hair, western and northern Europeans do not
>>736252682>Companies because there are not alternativesalternatives for what? Netflix?>There weren't because thankfully government stepped inmost monopolies are maintained *because* of lobbying and regulations, that's the point. There are zero examples of monopolies surviving for decades without the help of the government enabling them and limiting competition
>>736252952>>736253038Why are you niggers still discussing a goddamn food analogy instead of addressing the subject matter directly?
>e-movement>spearheaded by a factual high school dropout>motivated by spite towards another literally who faggot who was bullied to near suicide>His actual advice to devs comes from chatgpt>His fanbase are discord trannies and redditors with attitude>His pitch factually excludes current games as new as Marathon>/v/ licks his shaft because he made funny videos 10 years ago>Has been living off paetron making as much as an actual doctor because "muh gaas slop" "Remember The Crew">The politicians who did listen to him, in a strange twist of fate, actually understood what he intended and did not fuck him over>Made actual correction to his pothead tier chimpanzee writings and near illiterate understanding of the law>This will pass will the actual corrections that allow me to keep playing games as early as WOW>Possibly some fine that will be annoying enough that companies will rather take the time to support games and add offline playThis and Macron doing a kamekameha have been strange events but welcome ones.
>>736253120There are zero monopolies that happened in a stateless system, you're right! Also, there are zero stateless systems that are notable! I wonder if that indicates anything.
>>736253038yes, private companies exist that do just that. And they survive only on reputation
>>736253117lol
No matter how much you shitpost like a retard, it will have zero effect on how SKG is progressing. Remember that.>b-but it will save video games!Good, that's the intention.>b-but it will kill video games!Good. Another crash was way overdue. Basically the next best thing.We win either way.
>>736242482absolute madlad
>>736253137Anon we're literally talking about a delusional ancap who thinks food would be safe and reasonable because youtubers would take over the job of the FDA. This isn't a food analogy, we're just talking about food.
>>736245725based dog telling the truth
>>736253102Pinkertons are a good example too. Companies would resort to violence in the US back when they could still get away with it.There's no reason to believe that they wouldn't do it today if their need was great enough.In fact, there are suspected Boeing and Pfizer whistleblower killings.
>>736253178okay so the solution to the imaginary problem of boogeyman monopolies is increasing government size?
>>736242482Ubibros...
>>736253183Those private companies are also subject to government oversight. Everything that exists that you credit with existing in some theoretical ancap future only exists in the way it does because of the consequences imposed by the state.
>>736251847LEAVE MY SAFESPACE ALONE STUPID MUTT
What's ancap?
>>736252796A video game is an entertainment product with fans of the medium, which makes the reviewer market actually competitive and the potential to earn with ads is big enough to not have to do this. For something like household products or most food items, that's very different. Find me a "top 10 best glass cleaners" list that isn't 100% shilling.
>>736253290It seems like the current government size is working pretty fine, but there are a couple of pseudo monopolies that could use breaking up by our own current laws.
>>736253326you can stop replying to yourself
>>736253103you won't
>>736253307whoa I guess my Yelp reviews aren't actually real since they weren't state imposed
>>736253301This is actually great for Massive, since they have to stick around.Too bad Red Storm died before this passed.Essentially bad for the executives but good for the devs.
>>736253426Your yelp reviews aren't trustworthy or notable compared to the FDA's.
>>736242482>this guy is going to parliament it's fucked now, one look at this guy and they'll think this is some kind of internet meme
>>736253382Can you start replying to me or do you have no arguments?
>>736253545He looks like a friendly yeti who learned how to live in human society :)
>>736253348Anarcho-capitalism. The idea to throw out any and all regulations on commerce and just letting people figure things out on their own. Because if my shitty food kills anyone who eats it people will obviously just stop buying it and the problem solves itself. There won't be at all a lagging reaction that allows me to amass enough capital to just relaunch the whole enterprise with a new name. And fuck that first group of people that died, their own fault for trusting my word and not running their own chemical analysis.>>736253102Speaking of the Pinkertons, remember when Hasbro sent them on some dude's wife after send them the wrong traiding cards?
>>736253364nothing escapes the second law of thermodynamics, including businesses.not sure why the knee-jerk to give people like Ursula von der Leyen more power is always the first reaction
>>736253391Why's that?
>>736253601Who are you?
>>736253534>Your yelp reviews aren't trustworthy or notable compared to the FDA'ssays who?
>>736253649Okay, well, I prefer not to go through an utter systemic collapse every five years or so as the profit driven entity that rules my block undergoes warfare to protect hegemony.
>>736249030Hey Jason. Your anal ferrets are burning in pet hell.
>>736253545>they'll think this is some kind of internet memeI mean it literally is at its core. They want video game "preservation", which is just free legalized piracy provided by the corporations themselves or mandated by the government.
>>736252846the govt is the corp assassination group
>>736253713Literally everyone alive in a country that matters that isn't you yourself. All of them. Being a delusional ancap doesn't suddenly make your amateur reviewing more valuable than government lab testing.
>>736253674Yeah I'm not playing your shitty sealion game.
>>736253761Sounds cool to me. Why are you against this, fellow consumer?
>>736251847videogames, like all other cultural artefacts are something that can be maintained easier than most other artsLetting the rights of companies to destroy what consumers paid for prevail over the preservation of a digital medium would be a huge cultural loss.This happened with the early days of film because film companies were lax with dealing with the sensitive copies of the burgeoning medium. Most of that history is now lost media.Videogames is a very young medium as well and thankfully has the benefit of being made up of perfectly replicable code.Unless companies are allowed to intentionally obfuscate parts of this code to the detriment of their consumers and future generations for profit due to lacking laws and guidelines to stop them.We can still read literature from centuries ago because part of the writing wasn't sent to the grave along with its writers. These important works deservedly belong to the public domain. The same is possible for the code of these videogames.Here you go faggot.
>>736253836>0 argumentdestroyed
>>736249030>normies are too scared to play games anymore>all major publishers topple>no more mtx ever>no more gambling slop or live-service slopIs this supposed to be a bad thing?
>>736253763I WISH!
>>736253878We have lost a lot of significant works of literature too.The only reason why we didn't lose even more is because the Catholic church dedicated entire monasteries to copying books by hand for centuries until the printing press was invented.The value of conservation efforts cannot be understated.
>>736253841We aren't fellows. I'm a consumer and you arent.Why I don't want this is that it is communism as opposed to capitalism. Video games are the fruits of capitalism. Removing incentives to create and profit from your ideas reaults in the video games market as we know dying.
>>736251847>>video game preservation means every video game on the market is allowed to be legally pirated and provide for free to anyone who wants itliterally not something anyone in SKG has ever said ever. stop raping your ferrets.
>>736253897A question isn't an argument, lil broskie.
>>736254089>the video games market as we know dying.I already agree with the initiative, you don't need to convince me further.
