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>try the druid
>game is still boring garbo
damn
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>>736246870
>play druid
>end up spamming tornadoes or something equally stupid
>pets or shapeshifting is lame as fuck
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>>736246950
>>pets or shapeshifting is lame as fuck
i remember playing the witch which is supposed to be a necro and being a necro was the worst way to play her
glad to know nothing changed
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>try the druid
>it's fun but feels like it doesn't have enough skills
>probably because it's 4 "classes" smushed into one tree
>game overall feels great, still looks great, but still unfinished

shame it's taking them so long to finish the fucking game but their obsession with milking poe1 is the cause.
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>>736246950
Wolf Oracle was fun tho?
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>>736248534
retards like you are why this genre is bad
>brooo the game sucks unless your dumping dozens of AoE's and moving at max speed
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>>736246870
>early access
Yeah, fuck that shit!
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>>736247301
I feel they could mitigate the not enough skills thing by allowing the shapeshifts to use skills from their most closely related weapon, like mace for bear, spear for wolf and maybe bow for wyvern
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>>736248825
says the anon having a melty over a clearly unfinished game LOL
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>>736248894
Yeah probably, I feel like that's going to have to happen across all weapon types and classes at some point. Either they dump 2x the amount of skills into each tree or they loosen up and allow some cross weapon skills.
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blizztranny cope thread
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>>736249016
>posts generic mapclearing build webm that doesn't differ from any other map clearing build
you people who do dumb shit like map clearing as a chore shouldn't have an opinion on how the game plays in the normal way, no one is having a melty telling you the obvious
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>>736247301
Loads of skills are tied to specific animations, thinking GGG will be able to dump the amount of content that POE 1 has into POE 2 in a year or even two is just dumb.
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5+ months of the same season
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>>736249452
if you weren't a gay retard you'd be playing both poe1 and poe2 but you're a gay retard so you're cucked
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>>736249194
>how the game plays in the normal way
>the normal way
sounds like pure shitter cope lmfao. the game has been like that since 0.1 and the devs intended it to be that way. maybe it's just not for you anon
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>>736249637
sisters i cannot believe that poe2 is like poe1... wtf... ggg lied to me...
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>>736249310
Why did they make it like this to begin with? They made the game from scratch. Who was it that said in the design room "it is imperative that we animation lock all skills to their specific weapon so that players can never EVER use Leap Slam with a spear, even if we want to make it like that later"?
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>>736246870
If you like poo1 more than poo2 you are genuinely subhuman
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>>736249876
>They made the game from scratch.
No? It started off as an alternate campaign to PoE1. Early PoE2 footage is just PoE1 with some visual improvements in the level design.
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dead game
still 2 months left of this shit season
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>>736249310
It's not that hard to change anon, there would be zero different in doing earthquake with a mace, axe, or flail, nor would their be any insanely difficult work in changing how lightning spear looks when used with a dagger.
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>>736246870
>try playing game
>have fun
>randomly starts crashing the second I login to a character
>reclaim 130GB
>go back to D2
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>>736250682
such is life in the third world favelas
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>>736249876
Doesn't really matter though because you can just have a spear on weapon slot 2 and use spear abilities anyway. You don't have to press weapon swap in PoE 2 at all you just assign a mace skill one Q, spear skill on E and you can use both without cooldowns.
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>>736250827
Why even respond if you're just going to spout useless drivel like a useless nigger?
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>>736250951
uh oh thirdie mad
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>>736249637
its like PoE1 but you more 10 times slower which makes it 10 times less fun
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>>736250971
Ironic
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>>736250982
*move
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>>736250982
skill issue, you are bad
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>>736248534
I find it extremely confusing that someone can look at this shit and think "wow this looks fun!". I can only assume the same person would find strobe lights very entertaining as well.
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>>736251158
>wah it's too slow
>wah it's too fast
make up your mind blizztranny
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>>736246870
>Fantasy game with no swords
How?
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>>736246870
I got into this game initially because I thought it was going to avoid turning into wide screen epileptic spam.
Now I understand that it will never happen. Even if the creators go that way, the fanbase wouldnt like it because this is what they want. More of what POE 1 was.
It will never be a game for me. The part I enjoyed the best was at the very begining, going with a warrior 2 handed, barely using any skills.
When I finished act 1 I loved it, then I saw my friend, playing a wizard, was already on hard. When I saw the gameplay, I was instantly disapointed.
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>>736251272
So you want to default attack everything and get RSI? Retard.
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0.4 was the best patch so far
leveled 5 characters to 98 or above
melee still sucks tho
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Cant wait till they add Righteous Fire
>Requires 100 glory
>Duration 2 seconds, +2 seconds per endurance charge spent
>Increases magic damage by 9% while active
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>>736251764
Yeah it’ll probably be a temp buff like Vaal RF by default
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>>736251764
I wouldn't mind seeing them make charges easier to generate.
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>>736250285
>2 months

Are you serious?
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>>736248534
>just turning poe 2 into part 1
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>>736253135
it's just one month at most
ggg said they would tease 0.5 towards the end of april so new league would probably be beginning of may
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>>736253135
No, just one. Reveal is at the end of the month, the gap from 0.4 reveal to release was eight days. It's probably going to be the first or second week of May.
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>>736253321
So, a good thing?
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>>736246870
Rolling magma being an attack was lame. One of my fav spells from the first game but it's not very good in that game, at least in a league start scenario.
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>>736249016
They lost the "unfinished" and "it's only early access" privileges after working on it for like 7, or it might be even 8, fucking YEARS. And what's out there is still retarded and needs big changes.
90% of the entire skill tree is rancid ass and needs a whole rework, but I know it won't come cause they can only focus on one thing at a time now being the endgame.
Still needs a lot more gems and supports, AND how they all work to achieve what they want to lest it still ends up exactly like PoE 1 in that department. Baffles me that ever since the moment they started working on this they didn't think to have a team dedicated to thinking of exactly how to make a system that fits the requirements that they themselves set because it's the main core pillar of the game. The very first thought I had when they mentioned the whole "combo" bullshit and that supports aren't meant to just be "X% more damage" was how hard it must be to figure out what those gems would do to fit those strict requirements:
>shitton of support gems
>support gems have to be different enough to not just give X% more damage but also useful enough to use
>skills have to play off each other to satisfy the combo system
>but also none of them can be TOO good otherwise they'll be used in every build so there will be no build diversity (already happened in some patches, here's my CoC Comet build #24 with a side of spark bro)

Yet it feels like they're all either recently thought of, or they thought of some of them and just sat on them until 0.1 released.
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>>736253928
IT. EARLY. ACCESS. LET. THEM. COOK.
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>>736253928
That sure is a lot of text I'm not going to read.
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>>736246870
At the core these type games are just like those grindy mobile number go up mobile games with lots of explosions. Just add grimdark setting, say it's for hardcore gamers, put dozen time wasting systems on top of each other and bam you've got every midwith jerking each other off for how smart they think they are.
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>>736255647
that's nice sweetie now go back to your gachaslop
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>>736255708
Poe gameplay loop is just gacha with olympic level mental gymnastics.
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>>736255832
whatever you say gachaslopper
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>>736248534
What's the point of PoE 2 if it's just PoE 1 all over again? I mean this genuinely, and GGG need to figure what the fuck they're going to do with it. The campaign in PoE 2 is great, but the endgame is basically just PoE 1 but worse in every aspect.
I would like it to be slower and more methodical instead of whatever you see in the picture, since you can already do it in PoE 1
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>>736246950
>doesn’t have a ascendancy tied to shapeshifting
Legitimately most disappointing shit ever that I stop playing
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>>736255953
-> >>736248534
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>>736256040
PoE1 turbo autists are screaming in their face 24/7 because they can't stand the fact that GGG weren't making PoE1-2. You also have to remember the first game is F2P so a large portion of it's fanbase is well, you know.
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>>736256040
0.5 is the endgame overhaul, it's pretty blatant from the start that the infinite biome endgame is a placeholder and not some concrete vision. That said POE2 being more POE1 isn't a bad thing, that was the point of POE2 in the first place.
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>>736256314
I hope they don't shift away from the world map, it's so much more fun than menus. It's the right idea but it just needs more to see, find, and aim for.
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>>736256436
My speculation is that they are going to settle on the existing system that instead uses a static world map with a randomized interior.
The infinitely expanding world is not sustainable and is frankly sovlless as fuck. There needs to be some sort of structure that lets players do deterministic content, as is POE tradition.
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>>736246870
That sounds like your problem
I enjoying rampaging around as a bear on fire making the ground go on fire while raining fire from the sky and slamming everything to the ground
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>>736256192
Every class has 3 ascendancies. I think the third one will be the shape shifting ascendancy. Question is what they're going to call it though
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>>736256878
Also mauling big bosses to death doesn't get old
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>>736246870
Been playing the shit out of the new Last Epoch patch. Been fun so far, though the new patch mechanic is a pretty fast power scaler. Might be a little too much honestly.
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years of updates later, game still slow as fuck. way too much focus on builder+spender and kiss+curse bullshit.

'endgame' is a piss poor substitution downgrade of poe1.

focus on graphics and rig animations has held back any complexity or fun combat due to all the resourses going into tech instead of systems and design.

making skills require certain weapons greatly reduces build variety

still no complete campaign

still missing classes

MICROTRANSACTION OUT THE FUCKING ASS THE SECOND IT WENT LIVE WITHOUT END

INSISTS IT IS A BETA, REFUSES TO MAKE QUICK AND SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES AND TREATS IT LIKE A LIVE GAME WITH SEASONS

poe2 as a whole is a fucking mess and needs to be scrapped or roll design and philosophy decisions so far back they might as well start over. the majority of poe1 players hate it or treat it like a short diversion, most of the players that joined in poe2 do not stick around long enough in a patch to matter. fuck poe2
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Can they please fix it back to be more deliberate and not just zooming screen clears? I started like PoE2 because it wasn't PoE1 but now it basically is.
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>>736257396
didn't read you sound like a thirdoid
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Stormweaver Wyvern was extremely fucking fun.
Amazon Werewolf was also extremely fucking fun.
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>>736257508
aww does the poor baby lack the attention span to read nine lines of text? you sound like a poe2 player
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>>736257597
just admit you made a shit build and got btfo like the retard you are
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>>736256940
There won't be one for the same reason Witch doesn't have a minion ascendancy.
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>>736246870
poe2 is the worst major arpg on the market desu

i am waiting for the game to be 'complete' but we're going on 2 years now
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>>736257707
What reason is that?
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>>736256809
I'd much prefer the random infinite setup to a set mold, I love knowing that every person has a unique layout and that literally anything could be just barely hidden in the fog of war. What they do need is better navigation, a minimap for starters would help a lot, and more ways to move between map nodes that isn't simply running each and every one. Let me skip, hop, connect, bundle, or teleport among nodes using various mechanics or even change the regions biome using towers or whatnot.

Adding new types of bosses and points of interest was fun but they need to expand upon that, give me unique regions, special sub zones, entire areas that are enhanced by a specific league mechanic, really just more interesting stuff to find that isn't just one node.
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>>736257715
cope dilator you lost
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people that dislike poe2 fall into one of two categories
>they hate it because it's not poe1
or
>they hate it because it's too much like poe1
GGG shouldn't listen to either
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>>736257715
What makes it so bad? Just your lack of patience for an obviously EA game that even tells you it is?
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>>736256436
i hate it, it's ugly and laggy and pointless and you have to like scroll around to find shit it's just a pain the ass
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>>736246950
Good to see druid hasn't evolved from diablo 2
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>>736257789
>>736256809
I would however have to say that it would be nice to have geography that feels more like a world layout, you get stretches of mountains and lakes now but aesthetically it could be a lot better. I'd even take things like continents with oceans screens wide between them, let me complete a map node that acts as a port and allows me to fast travel blindly across to a new destination on another continent.
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>>736257715
>2 years now
bro is a time traveler
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>>736257924
All they have to do to fix the scrolling is add a RTS style minimap in the bottom corner and/or a mega zoomed out map you can swap to that allows you to see your entire discovered map at once.
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>"seasons"
>that last an entire year

i dont like this new trend
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>>736258151
Wrong thread?
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>>736258196
hes right, settlers was 11 months, 0.4 druids launched in december and 0.5 prolly wont be till july or later thats 7+ months, old poe leagues were 3-5months tops until poe2 fucked everything up
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Ameripoor here, does PoE2 run on PS5 yet?
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>>736257848
for me, its everything feeling like shit and builds being non-existent.
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I've hit the point where I am able to comfotably clear T15 maps 2 seasons now and then I get bored and quit because i'm not sure exactly what i'm supposed to do next besides wandering around the map grind and unlocking Atlas points.
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When the fuck is fangs of asterkam coming out
I thought the beta for the patch meant the expansion was coming out soon.
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>>736257848
>they hate it because it's not poe1
spoiler alert mother fucker, poe2 was supposed to just be an alternate campaign option to poe1 and some new/alternate versions of class starting options. the simple fact the poe2 has mutated into such a fucking mess after all this time validates your first option. and whos to blame? the short fat fuck jonathan
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>>736247039
>necro
every fucking arpg with minions the minion build is giga-ass. And I have played just about every available one.
And every time I say that some fuckhead will pop out of the bushes to say that if minion builds were good then you could mindlessly let the game play itself as if other builds are more cerebral than holding down the damage button and yeeting yourself around.
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>>736251272
The game turns into that because the devs are brain damaged and suck every iota of fun out of it, which forces players to play dirty and abuse the gaps.
So the developers come down on said gap like a sack of bricks, sucking out any fun that people were getting out of said mechanic.
So players are forced to play dirty and abuse another game.
And on and on. Poe2's entire design philosophy is exactly why Poe1 is the way it is.

Look at Grim Dawn for comparison, that game is extraordinarily generous. Any kind of fantasy you can think of it and it is piss easy to make a build for it. And it doesn't have any of these problems. You can, but you don't, because there's so many ways to play the game.
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I'm debating just going full evil in BG2... A lot of my favourite companions are the jerkish ones and I'm not fond of the wishy washiness that balancing reputation does for you. If I go good I can keep Mazzie, Keldorn and can see the Aerie and Bard dude romance. If I do evil I can have Hexxat, Dorn, Vic and Korgan which is such a great core. I'm near the end of chapter 2 and kinda just want to push on with the story but I need to pick out a permanent party.
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>>736259156
wrong thread grok-kun
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>>736258883
too bad BFR slurper, it's over for your gay vision
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>>736259395
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