Now what's your excuse, /v/?
If it doesn't say Pokemon on the cover I shan't be buying.
Hey this will be good in the long ru... April 1st.
>>736259281Its really retard
>>736259281try again
>>736259084It was a dumb patent because such a "mechanic" appears in stories from centuries ago.
>>736259670Twitterniggers deserves public execution like in French Revolution......if France even has the balls for it now.
>>736259084Okay but what about the patent where you throw a ball to summon a creature? That's the one fucking Palworld.
>>736259084Wait, then YGO and Fate would be killed in the west right?
>>736259084>revokesRetarded journo, retarded OP repeating what retarded journo spews out.>Less than two months later, the head of the United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO), Director John A. Squires, ordered an ex parte reexamination (EPR)>Nintendo let the deadline for a response slip. The examiner therefore started the reexamination process and put out a non-final Office action last week, rejecting all claims of the patent in question>As mentioned above, the rejection is non-final (and even when such rejections are labeled as “final”, the process is far from over, given that there can be, at minimum, an appeal to the Federal Circuit).>rejection in this case means “declaring ripe for revocation”, not that the patent is actually rejected>Nintendo has two months to respond, but that period can be extended if Nintendo asks for it (and Nintendo doesn’t even have to state a reason).>By not looking at real-world games, the USPTO is making this somewhat complicated. For 18 of the 26 patent claims, they have to combine two different prior art references to argue that the claimed inventions are obvious, and for the remaining 8 patent claims they even have to combine three to get there.>>736259551You are dumb. Patents describe a way to apply the mechanic in a video game. It has nothing to do with fucking stories from centuries ago.This is the level of understanding /v/ has, fucking he’ll.
Iirc this was rejected on non final basis because the wording is too similar to Nintendo’s other approved patents that cover similar things
This is just blatant anti-Japanese sabotage on America's part. There is nothing wrong with the patent at all, they just don't want Japanese companies to do well.
It is a good thing that only one company will have access to an idea until the end of time
>>736260192So literally nothing happened but an extremely minor thing in a completely normal process.
>>736260564>It is a good thing that only one company will have access to an idea until the end of timePatents don't work like that, lil high school grad bro.
>>736259084>If you dont like where pokemon games are going just make a better altern-Glad to see the free market thriving and doing well.
>>736260192Software patents in general are fucking stupid. I say this as a software dev. If someone else can replicate your product without access to your source code, you absolutely do not deserve to be protected from "competition".
>>736260843>I don't understand the world around me and I am angryEasily top 5 reasons why society is collapsing. Thanks for being a net negative on the human experience.
>>736259084excuse for what?
nintendo bros we lost...
>>736261032I disagree.
>>73625908499% of nintendos video game patents are complete bullshit done by other people years if not decades before. You shouldnt be able to patent vidya shit in general because 99% chance its already built off something.Patents in general are retarded and destructive its boomer shit thats completely broken system.
>>736261234False.
>>736259084nintentards BTFO
>>736261123Kill yourself, jew.
>>736262234Kill me yourself, Marx.
>>736259670pokemon fans are everything wrong with nintentoddlers x2
>>736260192>Patents describe a way to apply the mechanic in a video gamethis really shouldnt be a thing. it stifles creativity, the exact oppostite thing patents were suppose to do.Fucking nintendo and ninteddlers are the worst thing to happen to gaming.
>>736262537No, it doesn't. It ensures creativity thrives, the exact intended purpose of patents in the first place.
>>736262660lol
>>736259084uh ohnot a good look tendies...
>>736263524Sure.
>>736262364>the guy asking the government to protect his soda recipe is calling someone else a communistIsn't capitalism supposed to be about competition?
>>736264127Correct, the pro copy right capitalist is against the anti copyright communist. >Isn't capitalism supposed to be about competition?Correct. Good question. Not really but you know.
YOU HAVE YOUR OWN BOARD FUCK OFF >>>/vp/>YOU HAVE YOUR OWN BOARD FUCK OFF >>>/vp/YOU HAVE YOUR OWN BOARD FUCK OFF >>>/vp/>YOU HAVE YOUR OWN BOARD FUCK OFF >>>/vp/YOU HAVE YOUR OWN BOARD FUCK OFF >>>/vp/>YOU HAVE YOUR OWN BOARD FUCK OFF >>>/vp/
>>736259084damn, so this makes my skyrim mod obsolete....
>>736259084Not interested in it. Not interested in pokemon either. Nothing's changed since the game first made itself known.Do hope ninty keeps getting BTFO though. It's amusing how angry they get.
>>736264256I know you don't believe that and are just trolling but in case someone else stumbles onto this thread:The current form of copyright is the most anti-capitalist institution on the planet.
>>736259084BUT THIS. WAS. REVENGE.
>>736259084does that means Palworld can bring back the old animation of the palballs?
>>736259784>if France even has the balls for it now.they don't even have the balls to send troops to Iran, what makes you think they have balls at all?
>>736259084>sue government>government retaliates by removing your patentlol
>>736259129>slop enoyer
>>736268619No, it can't be a spherical object. Just make the m cubes and problem solved. A lot of fan monster tamer games make use of different shapes even with same color schemes. Learn to play the game or get fucked.
>>736265129>nigger mad he doesn't have janitor powers trying to backseat janny.didn't make it last time? Lol so worthless you can't even work as a janitor for free.
>>736269028 >>736268619Make them 40mm shaped so I can launch them really far with a Pal-M79.
>>736266702>The current form of copyright is the most anti-capitalist institution on the planet.How so?
>>736269028>No, it can't be a spherical objectEven after the patent office told Nintendo to go fuck themselves?
>>736269028>IT HAS TO BE AN OBJECT THAT YOU THROW AT THEM TO CAPTURE THELooks like palworld fans are equally as creatively bankrupt as the developers are. Just copy pokemon by use a square and not a circle. Brilliant.
>>736269478This isn't a bad idea, a pal gun would go really well with the theme.
Nintendo... lost?NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>736270316>IT HAS TO BE AN OBJECT THAT YOU THROW AT THEM TO CAPTURE THEthat sounds so basic as fuck though, that's like patenting the idea of nets and then acting like you did some complicated thing to come up with that idea.
>>736272315You only think it's basic because Pokemon normalized it
>>736272497>cave man throws rock at creature and knocks it >caveman captures creature and calls it a day >rng chance the creature doesn't get stunnedseriously how is this unique mechanic there's a bunch game where you throw something at a creature, which are essentially just a pokeball but with extra steps or in this case a different animation
>>736272645You're grasping dude.
>>736272645The patent isn't for capturing a creature, it's for throwing something and summoning a creature
>>736273216projecting hard to a point he didn't refute anything>>736273360and i know but the fact that you can patent the idea of capturing a creature with the most basic 's of fundamentals is dumb
It's amazing how much palworld discourse is just them pretending not to understand things
>>736273459ignores the fact that he didn't mention what the patent says after throwing something at something, it's almost like he left that out to try and ignore the point i was making
>>736273431Sure I'll waste my time explaining common sense understanding to you, since your entire goal is trolling me anyway.The patent in question isn't about throwing things at animals. Also using pokeballs to capture and summon creatures is not at all immitative of ancient man throwing rocks at creatures to kill them. Nor is the rng chance of capturing due to your throwing accuracy in nearly every pokemon game. Your analogy is fucking gay and reductionist. If you have a problem with the patent in question read it and understand it first, and then get back to me. Hope this helps.
>>736273643oh sorry I meant *Creatures considering the guy said you throw something, and then nothing else.
>>736269693NTA.
>>736273649>a pokeball is some sort of invention made by humankind despite Not really going on details besides pokemon lets them in hoopla and shit on how they manage to digitize a pokemon into a small ball which is essentially just a net.so, you're telling me that pokeballs are on the same levels of fundamentals as a gun which was essentially just gunpowder go boom and object goes flying out of it, difference is that a "gun" has objectively progressed through years with barreling and new way to fire something now they are coming up with magnets being able to fire objects out of thing and oxidization or how you say that word, but pokeballs are just a mcguffin that work because you throw them at a creature and they get captured and nothing really explains how, there's nothing that makes them unique beside having for specific situations like nets.
>>736259084HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>736273953Read the patent.
>>736273953>Your analogy is fucking gay and reductionistsame guy but to add on to this it's not really far off to what analogy i used for cave man, cause back then during the stone age and any primitive age, caveman and tribes used to weaken creature before knocking a creature out with either a rock or some sort of dart then sometimes net them up, the fact that you thought that was dumb shows u never really studied history, they even had "pokemon battles" when man tamed the wolf which was used to either weaken animals or stir them into areas where they can either spear or stone them to death.the fact you called that reactionist quote is generally retarded considering you think the pokeball is some sort of innovative discovery when its only carried by its fictional setting which doesn't really make sense at all like almost all of hero comics, the pokeball still follows the same mirrored fundamentals as a realistic setting basically weaken the animal then net it or knock it out, but in this case it just captures it without no problem>read the patent i have which i asks the question why you're dodging the question on how the pokeball is somehow unique enough to be complicated, despite it being just a toss and capture and then release
>>736274440Read the patent.
>>736259084What? Am I supposed to be making my own pokemon game?
>>736274714Read a history book
>>736274791No thanks. Nintendo isn't patenting throwing rocks at targets, nor can such a simple concept be patented in the first place. sorry your deflection got properly ignored. Maybe focus the thread topic instead.
>>736274985>missed the point award
>>736275014No I saw your point quite clearly, and dismissed it.
>>736274985Also wasn't like 26 of the patent all rejected by the uspto and nintendos excuse was they were being uncooperative despite not having an actual unique patent? so you really don't know yourself, bet you don't even know it was struck down because there were 4 patents detailing the same thing said in those 26 patents which shows you, yourself did not even read it so stop armchair lawyering AND actually do research before acting like you know everything about patents cause someone with a somewhat understanding would understand that's a red flag if u manage to apply a patent despite having the same formatting as another patent .
Patents should be dismissed if they're too similar to another set of mechanics that have already been done, throwing an object to spawn a creature has been done plenty of times before the patent was created. Craftopia had almost the exact same set of mechanics years before, that should be enough to get the patent thrown out.
>>736275723What annoys me is they created these patents to shut down a game journos declared a clone with very little in common with Pokémon while hosting literal mechanical Pokémon clones on their own consoles for years
>>736275835This but every nintendo fags excuse is *BUTS OTHER GAMES* when those games are nowhere even similar and digimon was way older than it, before it started throwing patents around willynilly, it's more of a brand risk so it keeps its costumers on a leash to continuously buy they're products, if it really was about caring about they're artist they would've sent Pickmon a dmca which was actually a "game" had more of an actual backbone to be sued than palworld, neither will they even apologize for allowing ai shit like palland to slide despite sueing the company with the same name as that game
>>736275470>Also wasn't like 26 of the patent all rejected by the uspto and nintendos excuse was they were being uncooperative despite not having an actual unique patent?Are you asking me? I looked it up and one patent that has 26 steps was rejected and needed further review by Nintendo>in those 26 patents which shows you, yourself did not even read it so stop armchair lawyering AND actually do research before acting like you know everything about patentsIt's not 26 patents, it's one patent with 26 steps. Do your research before replying.
>>736276190still 26 patents also it doesn't really matter what it's called so don't be disingenuous now when trying to talk about, And it's not a step patent or whatever the fuck you got that from, it called a 2-mode patent you dumbass and honestly stop acting like some lawyer and it's also suspicious that you didn't reply to me after a few hours of seeing that almost like you just went to actual do your own research just now, which tells me no you didn't know until now.
TOTAL PALCHAD VICTORY
>>736276481>still 26 patentsNo it isn't. It's one patent with 26 steps. >And it's not a step patent or whatever the fuck you got that from, it called a 2-mode patent you dumbassThere's no such thing as a 2 mode patent. The patent in question was about a summoning a character and letting it fight in 1 or 2 modes.
>>736276921>2 mode patentit's the nickname for it because it's one patent with 26 claims not steps, your really consistent on calling it steps and i know it can be reviewed, but honestly im more angry by the fact that there's no limit to how many times you can get it reviewed. for the main fact it can be abused by bigger companies against other companies making it into a stall battle or until they manage to get it applied making impossible for the recieving end to either fight until they run out of money or until they yield or until the offending end finally applies it and only way the recieving end can win is if the offending concedes.
>>736259084Hopefully this isn't just a one off and more will be done about the absolute fucking state of patents.
>>736277343That is typically how patent lawsuits go. If one gets rejected, then similar patents from the proposer are scrutinized further. It's a method used to punish patent trolling. Like if someone was caught lying about something then everything else they said is brought into question.
>>736277427GOOD, I hope nintendo learns something from this and starts playing fair.
gf didn’t have to license turn based rpg mechanics so i don’t see why they should be allowed to have a monopoly on any game mechanics from a moral standpoint
>>736259084If Sleepy Joe or Barack HUSSEIN Obama were at power they would give the entire American gaming industry to those chinese guys at Nintendo.Say thank you.
>>736259670This, but unironically. Monster ball catching games are fucking worthless if Pikachu and Charizard aren't in the game. Thats why Gen 5 is the biggest piece of shit Ive ever seen
