No wonder they're cancelling all PC efforts
Didn't Capcom say PC was their MOST lucrative platform? Maybe if Sony wasn't retarded and released their games day and date with their console releases, they'd actually see good profits
There's a significant overlap between console and PC gamers. Most of them just bought the games on console before they came out on PC.
> Nobody buys our woke garbage games like TLOU 2 on pc...> IT MUST BE BECAUSE PC SUCKS
>>736263858They take like three fucking years to even announce they're releasing a title for PC. Everyone who gave a shit has moved on by then.
>>736264115this
>>736263858I can watch all their "games" on Youtube.
the sales of marathon and helldivers on steam completely dwarfed console salesit's on them for waiting with porting their movie slop until everyone stops caring
>>736263858all you do is recompile burh no way deez niggas is serious bruhh smhhhhh bruh
>>736264072none of sony's games blew up in china the way monster hunter didthat's where all the money in pc gaming is
>>736263858>ports of 5 year old games don't sell that well compared to when they're new>still pull in $100 million a year for basically zero effort
>>736263858>Shit out awfully optimized, cheap ass ports of your garbage>Still squeeze 300 million out of that stoneSeems to me, their logic of just not doing it anymore means they're going to make less money on purpose because they barely spent any budget on good ports to begin with.
>>736264130TLOU2 is ludokino
>we ignore the calls for Bloodborne on PC (it's emulatable >for free now) but only push our aggressively wokeslop moviegames years after they released on console>we'll blame PC audience for not slurping it upno one self-sabotages like sony
>>736264072Big difference is that Sony doesn't have to pay themselves the platform fee, whereas Capcom pays regardless if it's Steam or Playstation. Sony might move more copies if it simultaneously releases on Steam, but they may make less revenue because they're paying Steam more. Or they could just be retarded and didn't do the math.
>>736263858>don't have to do anything but make cheap ports>get a significant amount of profit>this is bad?????>>736264072Not having denuvo fucked them pretty hard too lol, and making shitty sequels also. DS is the only game whose sequel seemed to have done as well as the original, every other sequel performed significantly worse than the first game.
>>736264115Their games just aren't conducive to double dipping either. No one is going to rebuy Goy of War on PC after playing it on console even if they are fans
>>736263858first party sony games have all been gay and lame lately so it's surprising they even made that much
>>736264270Shut up.
>>736263858Maybe if they released some good games I would buy them on PC lmao
>>736263858>makes shit games>wonder why no one but cultists buy themlolAny Capcom release on PC makes at least 50% of that
>>736263858Why would anyone buy the same shitty movie twice? And at a much later date at that.
Maybe if they ported the games people actually want, they'd make money.
>>736264309I'd totally buy Gears of Wars again though
I wonder why
>>736263858Meanwhile Marathon just made like 70% of sales on PC and Capcom couldn't be happier with their PC division
>>736264394Nah, they make even more.
>>736264416they could make more than 300 million porting bloodborne
It's a damn shame because some of these games were really good and had great ports like Ghost of Tsushima and God of War. I don't think they really released any stinkers aside from Last of Us Part 1 but as far as I understand even that was fixed by now.The sad thing is it doesn't seem like the games did partiularly bad, it's just of course not going to be as "lucrative". This translates to me as pure greed. They weren't doing as good so they don't want the money at all. Weird if you ask me.
>>736263858>release a game a year after consoles>"pc market suck!"maybe if you could stop treating pc gamers as second class citizens...
Oh no and sony has about 100,000 workers so that's only like $1,000 a year for each of them.
>>736264490Delusional.
>>736264489That's Requiem btw, a month old game.
>>736264503God of War port was trash on release and took them months to fix.
>>736264549Really? I think it would sell millions.
>>736264919Delusional
>>736263858>ERMMMM why didn't taking 3+ years to release slop everyone that would have cared to play it would have already played it by now not perform as a game released day one on PC?????????many such mysteries
>>736264416SHUT THE FUCK UP, CHUD
>>736263858>comes to PC>ports the most absolute snoy slop literally no one asked forPeople wanted Bloodborne, Gran Turismo. PS3 stuff like Killzone, Infamous, GoW, Demon's Souls, etc. No shit their movie slop didn't do well in a platform were people place gameplay above everything else.
>>736263858Makes sense to me. Look at Xbox with no exclusives and PS5 is also severely lacking exclusives so people with decent PCs have no reason to buy them.If the PS6 comes with a few exclusives a year there's a reason to get it alongside a PC. Plus Sony gets a bigger cut of the game sales on PS and there's also the online fee.
>>736263858I use my PC to play PC games and not consoleslop
>>736263858>No wonder they don't like moneyAre you fucking retarded
>>736263858>be sony>release movie disguised as game>i watch it on youtube>you can buy it now on pc toofor what purpose
Does it cost them over 100 million a year to port these games to PC?
>>736263858lol even "analysts" noticed the real reason
>>736263858When you see a movie made by Sony, you know it's shit. It's only natural to feel the same way about their movie-games.
>>736264503it costs money to port these games and resources. at a certain point, the numbers don't add up, might as well keep it on PS5 and save the hassle.
>>736264072And send all the ps fags into a hissy fit? Gosh no
>>736264430>KINO LVDOKINO SLOP>SLOP SLOP SLOP>LVDOKINO SLOP SLOP
>>736266931What would could they do, realistically? Buy an Xbox? Move to PC? lol
I just wish they'd have ported Astrobot, that game is basically the PS5 fellating itself but I'm not buying one.
>>736263858>PC accounts for 70% of marathon's "sales">One last thing, price of the ps5 goin' up.OOF. Based Trump, bringing down sony.
spending so much money you need record sales every time doesnt seem sustainable.
>>736263858Really they should be releasing games with lower fps/quality on consoles, then double dip by releasing it on PC. If they were smart (they're not)
>>736263858They should be thankful they managed to gain $300mil from such liquid SHIT.
>>736264115also they release late on pc, if they release games simultaneously on pc and console they would sell more because the games are in the pr hypecycle.
>>736264263That's only like 3 new mega yachts a year, barely scraps.
>>736267960>they should be releasing games with lower fps/quality on consolesthey already do
>>736264270>Ludoflops in youre path...
>>736263858>Sony when gamers have choices other than woke cinematic slop
>>736263858Maybe it's because they ported the shit games and ignored the stuff people want like Bloodborne and Gravity Rush.
>>736263858This just proves console exclusivity is fucking retarded.If you're gonna have exclusivity, be a fucking man and commit to it. Console only forever. If you lose money, take it like a man. Don't just release it on PC later for minimum profit like a bitch.
>>736268123>ignored the stuff people want like Gravity Rush.Gravity Rush itself is super niche. Porting it would accomplish next to nothing, I don't understand why you think it would be some bigger seller on PC to justify them porting it. Bloodborne, yeah, but Gravity Rush?
>>736268586Isn't Stellar Blade their best seller? It'd be fine. Loud and clear no one's interested in gay semite movies.
We all know it wasn't sales numbers. It's because the thought of Xbox having access to PlayStation games that came out almost a decade ago without being forced to give up all their exclusive IPs via Steam integration with Helix makes the higher ups at PlayStation have a collective aneurysm.
>>736263858They say that as if $300 million dollars over 3 years isn't an obscene amount of money. That money could feed thousands of people for many years.
>>736268797>Isn't Stellar Blade their best seller? It'd be fine.They're completely different markets. Stellar Blade was a soulslike focused on T&A and had a controversy surrounding it from day one. Gravity Rush is a niche motion sickness simulator that already underperformed on the PS4 despite E3 pushes. As it is it requires gyro to play and is worse for it if you aren't using gyro.I say this as someone who has platinumed all three games: it would also underperform. If Little Big Planet underperforms and R&C underperforms what makes you think that of all things would perform well?
>>736267845It relies too much on dualsense gimmicks to be ported
>>736263858It's almost impressive how well-practiced journoscum are at finding the absolutely "most incorrect as possible" interpretation of any simple statement, claim or fact. I'd wonder aloud whether this is a rare skill that's actually taught in colleges these days (that is, something people can actually *use* IRL even if only for evil, as opposed to an endless parade of courses that just list all the reasons White people suck), but I know colleges don't bother teaching skills anymore.
>>736268946Neither LBP nor R&C are good, there is interest for cute girls.
>>736268946>Stellar Blade>soulslikeshut up, retard
how is 300 million in 3 years bad jesus christdo you know the amount of women and children i would slaughter and eat like cattle for 300 million
>>736269094You're the type of person who says Sekiro isn't a Soulslike.
>>736264270just kino, as in german for movie
>>736263858That's 100 million dollars in a year in practically free money
>>736263858>Literally everyone and their grandmother: Bloodborne on PC please Sony!>Sony: NO! PREASE BUY NEIL DRUCKSLOP, HORIZONSLOP, AND ZOMBIESLOP INSTEAD>tens of sales later>Sony: WTF WHY YOU NO BUY OUR GARBAGE? DATS IT NO MORE PC GAME! DISHONORABU DISPRAY
>>736269124It absolutely is. Do you think Bayonetta is a soulslike too? kys retarded tripfag
>>736263858>Dude RaiderEEEEEEWWWW only sonygg*ers care about that garbage.
>>736263858So i'll have to buy a playstation to follow the adventures of crying male feminist Kratos?
>>736263858>Half>Still more than 0Companies have a fucking brain disease I swear. You have the games already made, it costs very little to port them. It's basically pure profit from the word go.
Uncharted 4: Go to the bathroom!!!
>>736264270Those shitty Horizon games made me realize that Sonyfags genuinely have shit taste.Sony's strength hasn't been in their first party output since the PS1.Now that third party exclusives are basically dead, there's no point in having Sony exclusives on PC since their modern first party games are ass.
>>736268946>>736269124are you actually retarded? lolit's a hack n' slash through and through, can't even recall a single "souls like" element, it's basically DmC
>>736264270>ugly dike revenge plot that kills off the only good character in the setting >kino
>>736263858>release a game on playstation>release it on pc a year later or more when the hype dies>people have been asking for stuff like DeSremake and BB pc ports>don't give them that>wonder why sales are low
>>736269362The checkpoints and revivals I guess? It's basically a soulslike in the same way a RTS is a point and click.
>>736269114>how is 300 million in 3 years badBecause that's across like a dozen ported titles, required them to relinquish their exclusivity prospect which actively harms their home system, pushes people away from buying stuff on their home system leading to less potential DLC or PS+ sales that they get full benefits from instead of just a percentage, they have to pay Valve 30% for every sale, etc. Porting to PC was obscenely dumb from their angle and they only did it to try and get a quick amount of cash when instead the Insomniac leaks even showed several years ago that outside of things like HZD, Days Gone, God of War 2018, and Helldivers 2 the sales on their PC ports were cratering with each new release, and as far as we know Ragnarok and HFW didn't sell nearly as well as those two. Same deal with the Spideys.>>736269206>>736269362Stellar Blade plays exactly like a Soulslike, specifically like Sekiro. It has the bonfires that respawn enemies and you manage your character at, the Estus, the "This door is closed from this side" and shortcuts for each area, the inability to fully combo an enemy and control the battle since you will have to parry and break posture bars to do actual damage, if I remember right your stats are based on the cans you find in the world, you have Shinobi Tools, enemies are placed exactly like a Souls game to jump you for attacking other enemies instead of them converging on you, enemy movesets are learned exactly like a Souls game with you plinking them instead of heavy retaliation via combos, etc.I can absolutely understand where you're coming from with it feeling more like a hack n' slash, but it's still Soulslike-leaning to a Sekiro style of game than a DMC or Bayonetta.
>>736263858>Releases games on PC a year or more laterYeesh why dont they want to buy the game twice?>Make GARBAGE gamesYeesh why dont they want to buy my games at all?
>>736263858Funny when even Crapcom earned so much more on PC. Maybe Sony just ported the shit games.
>>736263858>half the sales>cost of bringing an existing game to PC is like 5% of the original developmentWhy would you not take that deal?
>>736263858can we finally admit sony games are bad, Horizon 0 dawn is literally a propped up franchise with bundles, the lego game had less than 100 players at launch date for god sake
>>736269818>WAH IT DIDN'T MAKE ENOUGHAs if adding 300 million to 700 million isn't a pretty decent deal for the investment you make. And then you have people like tripfag over there going on about 'brand identity' as if people actually care about that.
>>736269820I'm so mad about Hunter's Gathering. I wanted to see what a third actual Horizon game would sell like but instead we just have another Concord sidegame>>736270167Sorny just thinks that while live service slop needs to go on PC, because even they aren't retarded enough to restrict access to those games, they need to keep their moviegames on the Playstation only otherwise people will just stop buying itSince it sounds like Microsoft is just making the XBOX a line of prebuilt PCs at this point, they might even be right
>>736263858sony really thought they were on the same level as rockstar and that they could charge people premium prices for +4 year old games
>>736270167>As if adding 300 million to 700 million isn't a pretty decent deal for the investment you make.It isn't because it brings in a lot of negative aspects to their current brand they are trying to attract people to and cannibalizes sales while also removing the exclusive allure and fanboyism those exclusives bring. Like I said earlier, we also directly saw that with every new game release the sales got worse and worse thanks to the Insomniac leak. Marathon is like the only thing recently where PC players bought it more than console players, and we also know PS5 sales of Spidey 2 are just absurdly more than PC's by like 15x the amount according to an analytics firm whose job it is to get these estimates with them being significantly worse than Spidey 1's PC numbers.https://alineaanalytics.com/blog/steamps/>as if people actually care about that.People do. Steam is like the most basic example I can give you of this on the PC side. Do you willingly buy games on EGS, Ubisoft Connect, Origin, or Rockstar's launcher even when it's available on Steam? GOG is the only thing remotely pulling people away from that and there are still people who outright refuse to buy outside of Steam.Are you forgetting the PSWii60 era existed where people would do nothing but flaunt Halo, Uncharted, Gears of War, Mario, and more and tease each other for not having access to it? Did you somehow fall asleep when Spidey released on PS4 and Xbox and PC players were seething out of their minds?Brand identity matters as does pulling people in with your exclusives. Even if said userbase is only going to play ball and gun games forever they're still going to fall for marketing and FOMO to play exclusives that internally justify their purchase and then brag to their friends they have something they don't. This has been gaming for literally decades at this point.
>>736264489Incredibly based considering the specs of the game and current pc market. Sony moving away from PC will bite them hard if the PS6 is over $800.
>>736269541You are retarded. Even the developers describe it as a hack n' slash lmaoJust because it incorporate some random DaS elements doesn't mean it's a soulslike, even nu God War does that.
>>736270513Naughty dog has surpassed Rockstar in every way except sales.
>>736269820As far as I'm concerned PlayStation died with Last of Us. Not the game itself but what it represented and the direction of the company and brand afterward.
>>736270704RDR2 absolutely destroys any game Naughty Dog has ever developed in both technical quality and gameplay.
>>736270704It's not the 1st of April anymore anon
>>736270726The only reason Playstation is still around is Xbox doing an even worse job.
>>736270726Don't worry, Intergalactic: The Heretic Prophet will usher in a new age of Sony and NaughtydogFucking shitass studio revealing this shit far too early and showing literally nothing. God I hope it fails
>>736263858>ports all relevant playstation exclusives to PC>PCfags just ignore them and mock snoys for having no exclusives
>>736264072The problem is that most of Sony's 1st party titles are absolute garbage that no one wants to buy. Capcom at least has a strong weeaboo following going for them.
>>736270695>Even the developers describe it as a hack n' slash lmaoThe developers of Nioh describe it as inspired by Souls games yet everyone here seems to swear that it's a hack n' slash like Ninja Gaiden.>Just because it incorporate some random DaS elements doesn't mean it's a soulslikeIt has a bunch of Soulslike mechanics and is structured like one. It does not play like a traditional character action game nor does it play like a traditional action game. The area designs alone are borderline identical to any sort of Souls game you've ever played.
>>736270947nope
>>736270947Inspired by souls != soulslike. Nioh isn't a souls like.
>>736263858just proves their games have no value and only some brand loyal millennials still bother with their garbage
>PC gamers have thousands of choices of better games from every generation>PS gamers have no choice but to buy forced Sony slopWHY WONT PC GAMERS BUY OUR GAMES AS MUCH AS PS GAMERS!
How does that make sense? PC profit is free money for a console firm
>>736264072the sole reason capcom prefers pc sales nowadays is because of the chinese buying monster hunter
>>736264115If it's FPS it's better on pc because m/kb no aim assist If it's RPG it's better on pc as you can modIf it's multiplayer it's better on pc as servers don't get shut downBasically unless it's sports ball or racing why the fuck ain't you on pc?
>>736263858Their games are mid and that's why their console is failing
>>736271207>Basically unless it's sports ball or racingWhy would you play a racing game on console?
I can't think of a single Snoy game worth pirating, let alone buying. For Dude Raider, didn't they only release the shitty ones and not the games people like?
>>736271047>Nioh isn't a souls like.Literally everyone agrees it as a series is a Soulslike. Just because you have missions instead of a world and a focus on Ki pulsing does not change that.>You can only upgrade and equip certain items at shrines.>Shines refill your items and respawn enemies.>Medicine is treated like grass or blood vials.>Corpse run.>You unlock shortcuts in the level that bring you back to shrines or give you new shrines.>Stamina system except it has active reload to gain it back.>Enemies attack identically to Souls enemies and have gank groups and traps to punish unaware players.>Bosses are treated exactly like Souls ones where you keep away and punish when they whiff unless you are extremely adept at Confusion or LW spam.This is like saying the Remnant games aren't Soulslikes because they have TPS elements when everyone agrees they are because the overwhelming majority of the mechanics and game design lean towards how Souls games do them, and those games have randomly generated maps..>>736271190Because it ruins their console side for less profits in the long term. You now have less people buying the games on consoles meaning less people buying the DLC for 100% of the profit instead of 70%, you have less people paying you for PS+ which fully goes into your pocket, you ruin the exclusivity allure and appeal leading to less people impulse buying the games for the fact that they can only get them on their platform, you give less of a reason to own your console when you can get what is available on it elsewhere, and so many more reasons.Porting to PC was Sony's dumbest idea yet and the fact they went through with it was asinine. Microsoft alone is a poster boy for why you don't port to PC if you're a console maker. If it was profitable or a good idea Nintendo would have hopped on it immediately, but they understand that their entire platform sustains itself on exclusivity and pulling people into their ecosystem.
>simple ports make 300 mil revenueand yet they are complaining
>>736263858Am I supposed to think $300 mil in 3 years from multiple year old games is supposed to be bad?
>>736270704this. can't wait till the retro bald space woman game comes out so they can finally cement their legacy as the kings of video games.
>>736263858Did the consider making good video games?
>>736263858sadly pc gamers don't like movie games
>>736264130If it's not making money for them, then it's not worth the investment to port.If you hate the games so much, why does it make you mad that they're leaving?
>>736263858They only port single player games with no denuvo, and way too late at that... even im not gonna buy that shit
There hasn't been a single playstation game worth playing in the last ~15-20 yearsThey released their games on PC, people tried them and instantly realized just how fucking boring and cookie cutter they are. They do well on the consoles simply because it's slim pickings, and people STILL only play shit like FIFA, NBA and the same 1 or 2 popular shooters.
If a game involves swinging a sword and jumping around, it's a Souls-like. End of discussion.
>>736264270>ludokino>The game actively goes against what most players want to do
Damn. Only $300 million? Shameful. I would commit sudoku.
