Can we have a nice zachtronics thread?I still can't get past the first few levels of TIS-100 despite making it far into Shenzhen
I'm not smart enough for these games but I really like the Solitaire collection. The Tarot one is my favorite time waster.
bruh...
Am I retarded? No, everyone else must be using a guide
>>736275998bump
>>736275998huh? TIS-100 is way easier
>>736276863I may be retarded
>>736277570you can press F1 to bring up a cheat-sheetalso JRO accepts any positive or negative number regardless of where it came from, very useful for telling other chips what line of code to jump to. Shenzhen I/O never had a command anywhere near that useful
I don't have anything to say, here is a random ass solution.
>>736276227My wife has like 500,+ wins in fortuna and I haven't even got the achievement for 100 wins in each because I can't do fortuna at all.>>736277978Is the update good? I'm waiting to have a nice clear afternoon to get into it.
>>736278152There's a few more glyphs for changing types of metals around (hence the name), so the puzzles are more heavy on "how do i even turn atom X into atom Y" without messing up ingredient ratios
I was just playing TIS -100. Was about to sleep but thought about a simple way to do the exposure mask one. Now i only have the last row of puzzles, which will be a real headache, it seems.
>>736276461 >bruh...5% chads who win 100 solitaire games vs the 2.4% wagecucks who actually solved every puzzle zachtronics fans will optimize a rice cooker down to 34 area and 96 cost but draw the line at clicking cards around for 3 hours honestly “Become Immortal” being rarer than 100%ing the campaign would be the funniest stat possible. imagine explaining to someone that you beat an assembly programming simulator but can’t clear grandma-tier solitaire consistency checks.
>>736276687You're wasting too much time with the pot handles. I also have a 3 time solution that's similar to yours.
Riveting gameplay
>>736281770No, the previous post is riveting gameplay.
>>736281949The world's most uncomfortable socks.
>>736282020Is kaizen literally just infinifactory only in 2d instead of 3d?
>>736282083yes
>>736281770mine's faster
>>736282083Sort of in the sense that you are moving, rotating and welding things together, but it uses the instruction tray like Opus instead of conveyer belt based logic.
What's the best zachtronics game to get started?
>>736282272spacechem
>>736282272Opus Magnum is the probably easiest because you have infinite space and time to solve the puzzles
>>736282272Infinifactory. Don't listen to the nerds who say Opus Magnum, it may be technically easier but it's harder to learn because you have to enter commands like a nerd. But in Infinifactory you place blocks and shit like you're in freaking minecraft, which is much more intuitive
>>736282272Opus Magnum or InfinifactoryOpus Magnum is the best overall package (you might say it's their magnum opus) but I have seen people get filtered by the programming aspects.Infinifactory controls just like minecraft. If you can place blocks you can play Infinifactory. It also starts off easier than Opus, and the first campaign remains relatively simple. However the 2nd campaign ramps up the difficulty, and unlike the other games I don't really consider it to be a bonus extra-difficulty set of puzzles because it's where you get the narrative conclusion.
>>736282469that whale puzzle lagged the shit out of my old PC so when I ran my solution I had to stare at the ground
>>736282217Yeah but this looks like it involves actual math.
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>>736281949
>>736282469>gif
>>736282272Solitaire collection is peak.
>>736275998The cuck sold his brainchilds to a holdings company.
>>736282349man, fuck entering commands in Opus Magnum. I make a big ass machine and I know exactly how it works, but then I just give up immediately once I realize I have to write down 300 fucking commands to get everything to work, and of course you gotta watch through the whole damn animation everytime it breaks
>>736284336you can press alt and click on an instruction to fast forward the simulation to that point in the timeline
>>736284376alright, time to boot up Opus Magnum again
>Spacechem totally forgottenSad!
>>736284430don't you sass me without reading the thread first >>736282295
>>736284515>no screenshots>no images>just one guy recommending it instead of the more casualized version (MO)Sad!
>>736284557Bro we're 40 posts in, calm your tits. Hell, you could even be our guiding light and post some spacechem vids for us
>>736276863shenzhen looks better, has solitaire and is harder>>736277824bro why spoil him on the best discovery in TIS?
>>736284771why do you think I used spoiler tags? it's not my fault if he hovers over them.
>>736284430It really needs a QOL pass, like save slots and updated solution exporter. I really want to finish it, but every time I try I get filtered by the combination of puzzle difficulty and interface friction.
Is coffee good for you?
>>736284950yeah nigga, it's beans, of course it's good for you, coffee is fucking beans
>>736284984real and true
>>736284984>>736285069Fake and false. Coffee "beans" are actually the dried and roasted seeds of the coffee cherry, which is not a part of the legume family at all.
>>736285069>Meat+4That wasn't on the menu!
>>736285069looks demonic
>>736285069I look like this and I eat this
>>736285112yo nigga that's (not) nuts
I hope this doesn't look like ass
>>736284817knowing JRO before the bonus levels will honestly ruin the game's difficulty
>>736288960but it's in the manual
>>736289381knowing how to use it i mean
>>736289403the game never gives you any more hints than that though
>>736289546i guess so but i think knowing that it is very useful should be hint enough
>>736275998>TIS-100why not just learn a real programing language?
>>736289807real programming doesn't have puzzles because you can just look everything up on stack overflow and/or vibecode with your ai girlfriend
>>736275998i got filtered by this one like absolute brainlet, made me double down on tard friendly opus magnum instead, loved it, now i don't even want to touch it after seeing some moron feed it to chatgpt for solutions, what is even the point
>>736289807it's not exclusiverecreational programming and zachtronics scratch different itches. actual programming usually still involves tons of chores that zachtronics removes, but when you write actual code, you get an actual reward in the end that isn't just imaginary numbers that go up or down
>>736291252i can see the appeal of games like kaizen, infinifactory or opus magnum, i was referring to TIS-100 specifically
>>736289807I'm too retarded for actual programming, and I like it when there’s a clear goal state and some dumb/fun story to go with it, like advent of code
>>736291358you still need tons of scaffolding to actually arrive at your neat little problem that is rewarding solvemaybe less of an issue these days with llms
Why would I play this when I could just program. You can just... program your computer, a real computer.
>>736293828You just don't get it. One's a game, the other is work. This is like asking why someone would play Paper's Please when you could just do real paperwork. You may be solving similar problems but their real life equivalents are rarely structured in a way that is conducive to fun
>>736289807But I did.
>>736294001Paper's please is different. Isn't this game literally assembly programming? Programming is fun for a lot of people.
>>736275998lol why did he update opus magnum?I thought he was done the zachtronics brand? Did Kaizen Factory fail?
>>736294097fans made their own campaign so he polished it up and added it to the actual game
>>736294001you know you can also program for hobby / leisure, right?
>>736294082It's assembly on a TIS-100.
>>736294082>>736294190I enjoy programming games but I do not enjoy real programming.
>>736282272exapunk because you can more easily visualize what your code is doing, possibly brute forcing if there is something you don't understand
>>736282295I installed it back then only to get the pin in TF2boy was I surprised
>go to work>prompt an AI all day to code for me>go home>play games where i get to write the code myselfbruh, wtf happened to my life.
