How is this shit not illegal?
It's not.You have to load RA with your own cores and BIOSes. Besides, it doesn't come loaded with games.
>>736280904Emulation is not illegal.
Crime is only illegal if you get caught while also being poor.
>>736280904Bad programs are legal, unfortunately
>>736280904>ITT: OP thinks he's smarter than tendie lawyersyou think they haven't brainstormed this before?
>>736281007Crime is only illegal if you can be deported to US.
>>736280904Why would it be illegal?
>>736280904Why would it be? It doesn't really come preloaded with anything. Dolphin was also supposed to be on steam, but Nintendo threw a fit and Valve decided it wasn't worth the hassle
>>736280904Because it breaks no laws dipshit
>>736280904In the US at least, reverse engineering for the purposes of interoperation (emulation) is explicitly allowed in copyright law. There's one major obstacle, though: if a game is copy protected, encrypted, or otherwise access controlled, it is considered circumventing the copyright holder's explicit wishes (e.g. the EULA) regarding their intellectual property and thus infinges copyright. It is likewise forbidden to create and distribute tools that circumvent these protections, even telling someone how could be infringing (see the famous deCSS illegal t-shirt)If you legally own a copy of a game you have the right to make a backup copy of it, and you can then emulate it running on its original hardware
Don't care, playing all of nintendos library on my PC for free
Retropad might just be the absolute most retarded way to set inputs ever.
>>736280904Same way your computer is not illegal. yet
>>736281567Correct.I've been emulating since 98 and the controller abstraction is stupidest thing i've ever seen in any emulator.The second most stupid thing i've ever seen is the way Retroarch handles turbo fire.
>>736281443In Europe; You can download, install and modify your games as much as you want (waresharing): You however can not:>Sell pirated copies or hardware that allows easy access or host storefronts from where to purchase those games as that's illegal (piracy.)>Make money out of the pirated game by streaming it or otherwise in public displays because that falls back to more on the side of making illicit profits rather than personal use.Europe has more rights in this regards.
>>736281696>SellCan I still give copies out for free though?
>>736280904Because I cannot be caught
>>736281740Sure, just don't make them pay for shipping either. Think of it like making and sharing mix-tapes regarding the legality. (Don't broadcast or make it a big thing publicly. Much like other things regarding law; As long as you aren't causing a problem the government won't cause you a problem in return.)
>>736281645Another big fuckery with the retropad system is that most people come into contact with Retroarch through a front end. They set the controls through the front end thinking thats it. Seriously why couldn't they just take what MAME does?
Why would anyone want an emulator to be put on Steam? Just download an emulator and a rom and be done with it.
>>736281843>>736281645Now that I think about it, how the hell is someone supposed to set the controls for games with specialised controls as say those mahjong games, with the retropad system?
>>736281843Out of all complaints about retroarch this one is bewildering.What exactly is wrong with the way to adjust bindings there? It's pretty set and forget. If you need to set controls per core/per game you're able to. Please explain, thoroughly.
>>736281927Steamdeck and "all in one place" sunken cost fallacy logic, anyway if its directly on steam you can stream the content to friends or whatever etc. If its on steam, you could technically remote play together through the steam interface.
>>736282050If you launch retroarch through a front end as say Recalbox, you never actually get to the part where you set the retropad.
Emulation is completely legal and the entire process for obtaining files is completely beyond the scope of copyright law which is why it's a separate arbitrary felony under criminal law, rather than civil law which copyright offenses are in a way that's so poorly written that legally any time you use any sort of digital media whatsoever you incur a 4 year felony charge and technically the law itself is unconstitutional since necessarily to enforce it you'd have to violate the 4th 5th 6th 7th 8th 9th and 10th amendments.
>>736280904Same reason the gun manufacturer is not responsible for your suicide
>>736282247I recall launching retroarch through LaunchBox and having no issues with bindings myself.These things can also be changed externally, maybe recalbox should have the option to create custom files for that then. Surely it ain't that complicated. I had something similar on an anbernic chinkheld and it had many retroarch settings accessible from the frontend on top.
Making and distributing emulators is not illegal, distributing the games to be emulated is illegal
>>736282493>Distributing.They may be DMCA'd but usually never sued over for if you comply with the corporate demands. Actively Supported Games vs Abandonware are also two different things.
>>736282312And before anyone gets retarded about this shit I'm sure anyone reasonable could tell you that watching a copy of bambi you bought and paid for shouldn't and can't have the same legal penalty for accidentally hitting someone with a fucking car.
>>736280904https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Computer_Entertainment,_Inc._v._Connectix_Corp.
>>736280904I already migrated my install from Steam and got all my roms from Myrient so you're a month too late for this thread, ShlemielAzahar and MelonDS for the win
>>736280904>how is this "completely legal thing" not illegalI don't know, ask a judge.
>>736281284Dolphin's code contains the Wii's decryption key which actually is illegal.
>>736283603Last time I checked RetroArch is not Dolphin
>>736284158try reading the post I responded to
>>736284538You think I came here to read?
>>736283423Tell it to the judge. And the judge will be wearing a tiny Mario hat.
>>736285764Thread is gonna die after I make this joke okay. Probably for the better since it's an Anti-Steam thread.
>>736280904It's just not.
>ZOMG THAT'S LIKE TOTALLY ILLEGAL,MY GRADE SCHOOL TEACHER TOLD ME I fucking hate cunts like you and it's no wonder satanic pedos and gangsters rule this world and they call you "goy"
>>736281443Eh, the law is just kind of shit, because the DMCA and its corresponding WIPO law were primarily concerned with preventing the total reveal of the lizardman illuminati government in light of eternal September giving everyone internet access, not actually providing functional copyright law extension.You can still break access protection for the purpose of everything other than circumventing access protection, as long as it doesn't have "limited other commercial purpose" and is not "marketed for anti-circumvention purpose", which is an insanely broad and schizophrenic wording.
>>736280904Making emulation illegal would break literally all tech.All modern CPUs use emulation, java and JavaScript are emulation, all the virtual console and similars are emulation...
>>736280904kill yourself, bootlicker
What happened? Previously emulationfags were called “thirdies” and “poor”, but now piracy is being hailed as totally illegal and morally fair?
>>736293007>totally illegal and morally fairNaniThis is just an anti-Steam thread.
