>ten trillion backrooms games based on one 4chan post>Only ONE DOOM wad based on the book that inspired itWhy has nobody adapted this yet, or something like it, beyond the doom .wad?
>>736296338No one reads books
>>736296338I'm reading this right now, it's living up to the hype.
Is the book also about gay longing?Pretty gay if you ask me.
>>736296338it would be hard to make fun. it is a great book but the concept of a house with a seemingly infinite interior that is just black walls would be difficult to do in a game.
>>736296338Read through this, Johnny's a fucking retard and I wish he'd get out of the way of the story. But I guess that's part of it. Watched night mind's videos about it and the retard didn't even mention poe more than once, when she's literally the sister of the writer and her first album inspired the book and her second album is literally a companion to the book that I think places poe as navy's daughter and also the new minotaur of the house, who finally escapes into the remedy verse, where the fbc captured her, but she wrote her way out in the lake house dlc
Zoomers dont read
>>736297020>>736296692That's why someone should adapt it though.
>>736296897>Johnny's a fucking retard and I wish he'd get out of the way of the storyholy filtered, Jack Truant's mother is the main character of the entire story. The Navidson Record and Zampano's work are just vehicles for Jack Truant's adventures.
>>736297553Get Blue Balls the fuck outta this collage.
>>736296338performative literature
>>736297758>post-WWII "literature"Fixed.
You couldn't properly adapt it in any way that would feel faithful to the book. It would have to be something like a documentary about a vlog that a youtuber is doing while he's making a video essay on a game that doesn't exist.
>>736297553>gone home>poo princeMy cortisol levels are spiking
Alan Wake
>>736297982>>736297643filtered
>>736297553>Gone HomoThe book is overrated by dangerhairs and the academics who enable them, got it.
>>736297553I read House of Leaves, finished Lorelei, played Blue Prince and know enough about Gone Home.I have no idea what this picture is trying to show. Looks like randomly chosen titles to me.But what I wanted to say is mainly that Lorelei is a brilliant puzzle game.
>>736297370Don't say though
>>736297868so petscop?
I finished reading that last month. The ending was awful. But man the exploration sections were great.
>>736297540Why... Why are you calling him that? His name is Johnny? Also his story, and his mother's story, is shallow nonsense. He got choked, she probably meant to spill oil on him, she died in a shitty mental hospital while he had a jet setter (poor) life across Europe then broke down into a useless crack head needlesmith who's haunted by the memory of his insane mom. The house and zampano are by and large the more interesting stories, and he continually interrupts them with his stupid inane bullshit.
>>736297868Someone could just make a movie out of the Navidson Record portion. Johnny's parts are too disjointed to make much of an interesting story and adapting Zampano's analysis into any other form would be hopeless.
>>736297553>your ho use
>>736296768This.
>>736298257Fuck, yeah that's probably the closest thing we've got.
>>736298376>the story is bullshitWelcome to postmodern literature. Yes, everything you described is what academics want you to believe is "brilliant." You can thank 250 years of anti-Monarchist subversion leading to this...
I think the only way a game could work is by making it friendslop.
>>736298428Isn't there already a movie that is effectively the Navidson record that just doesn't officially credit House of Leaves?
>>736296768Most things are about gay longing if you're gay enough.
>>736298376>Navidson part has you fully immersed in the atmosphere and you can't wait to turn the page to see what happens next>"So I guess I fucked this prostitute, and she gave me a prostate orgasm, fucking wild, I wonder what Thumper is doing, man I'm hungry, my stomach is a pit, but I can't eat, haven't eaten in days, months even, don't remember what food really is">Zampano copypastes the entire Wikipedia article for windchimes
>>736297540>Jack Truant>>736298376The portion with Johnny's mother was interesting in that it explained why he had such a breadth of knowledge and such a wide vocabulary at his disposal despite being a runaway junkie, and his mother having schizophrenia also adds to the question of whether anything Johnny went through after discovering the writings was real or if it was just his delusions. Ultimately though it doesn't feel like Johnny's portion of the story has all that much point or connection to the rest of it because it ends so inconclusively.
>>736298691You Should Have Left
>>736298159Thougheverbeit
>>736298950>You Should Have LeftThat's actually based on a book with the same name that is written in a very similar style to House of Leaves.
I wonder how much of HoL Kane is going to put into the Backrooms movie, my interest went from 0 to a 2-3 when the trailer showed that you could come and go as you please if you know where the doorway is, a step up from just "falling through a gap in the world and is now trapped in strange dimension". His "The Oldest View" showed that he's not just a one-trick-pony when it comes to things surrounding this genre, so I've got a bit of hope that HoL fans will enjoy the movie. Though I have massive backrooms fatigue from what the mainstream internet did to it.
>>736298159Damn, thirdies are still seething about this word, over a decade later. lmfao
>>736296338House of Leaves is borderline impossible to faithfully adapt into any other medium. You could try, but you’d have to take a ton of liberties with it.
>>736296692Especially not the people on /lit/(Except for Bakker. They read Bakker.)
>>736296338Is this readable in a pdf or ebook or is a physical only sort of a book
>>736300310>His "The Oldest View" showed that he's not just a one-trick-pony when it comes to things surrounding this genreYeah, instead of moving a virtual camera around a "surreal" Blender environment with a VHS filter over it, he moved a virtual camera around a Blender environment based on a once-real location, now without a filter over it. Truly, a well of creativity and innovation...
>>736298085Blue Prince is about a house where the layout changes every day and the logo is a blue leaf. It’s not a horror game but there’s definitely some inspiration there.
>>736301087You would be doing yourself a disservice not reading a physical copy
>>736300970Maps for old shooters were basically House of Leaves.
>>736301087Physical only. The schizo formatting is probably the most memorable feature.
>whycopyright probably
This book was interesting. I didn't find it as hard to read as people said it would be. A lot of it is just complete nonsense (most of the footnotes).I did find it entertaining to discover that the entire story id a fabrication of the mother, who made up this story about her child who had died. The fact that this revelation is actually obscured was the only thing I found particularly good.My main issue is that I read this on the recommendation that it would be a good horror novel, when in fact it was not really a horror novel at all.
>>736296338Shill me on house of leaves please.
>>736301409>The quirky formatting is probably the most memorable featureFixed. So not the story, not the characters, not anything that makes a book good; just the author fucking around with LaTeX and Word formatting options is what the book can be most recommended for. Got it.
>>736296768Its more about mommy issues
>>736301730You don't have to read the book if you don't want to man.
Control is heavily influenced by House of Leaves. The Old House has an ever expanding shifting interiors that don't match the exterior at all.
>>736301786With how it's "sold" to people, don't worry, I won't.
The whole selling point of House of Leaves is the nested narratives and generally being as much of a pain in the ass to read as possible. A proper vidya adaptation would need to be something like Pony Island where trying to play the game is the game.
>>736301686>I did find it entertaining to discover that the entire story id a fabrication of the mother, who made up this story about her child who had died. The fact that this revelation is actually obscured was the only thing I found particularly good.Wait a second I didn't take this from it at all, explain.
The Doom .wad was a genre killer as far as I'm concerned. It encapsulated the sheer vexation that trying to read the book is to a maniacal degree
>>736301716Mostly style over substance. You will probably like the Navidson's and their spooky house sections, but the Johnny Truant tryhard, drugs and sex escapades, or the Zampano nonsensical essay stuff will be what determines if you like the book or not.
Johnny's not fucking real. He's a fabrication in his mother's writing.
>>736302149Its one of the theories that the mother wrote everything. There is a secret message in her letters that explicitly mentions Zampano even though she would have no way of knowing about him. Also the story at the end about the mother and her dying newborn could be about her and Johnny. There are also hints that Johnny wrote everything or Zampano wrote everything, so it isn't exactly confirmed.
>>736300310But being able to leave ruins it
>>736302149There's a really old forum post on the author's website that goes over it in excessive detail, but many of the clues you can find, especially the phrasing, foreign language and word choices used by all of the characters are all things that point to them actually being written by the mother, who wrote this thing in a fit after her child was either stillborn or she strangled him. There's also a check mark that she mentions in a letter that can be found earlier in the manuscript. I'll see if I can find the post.
>>736302756I think being able to leave adds more to it, because it becomes a choice to keep returning
>>736300310I was enjoying Kane's web series but the movie looks like shit. Very typical production company interference to try and make it more standardised and marketable when it was already a huge success without that.>the trailer showed that you could come and go as you please if you know where the doorway is, a step up from just "falling through a gap in the world and is now trapped in strange dimension"Yeah they were already doing that in the web series.
>>736301716I like the book, but it's entirely built around being an absolute pain in the ass to actually read. If you want to follow one narrative, expect to have 5 pages in a row where there's only half a sentence, or you have to skip 3 pages because they're related to an entirely separate plot unrelated to what you're trying to follow>>736300310My issue with the backroooms is that I'm fully in the camp that having anything other than the original /x/ post ruins it
>>736301824I was just playing that this last week, it's primarily a knockoff of SCP and it doesn't really have the interior-exterior disconnect going on much given the majority of the complex is underground, though the Quarry is an obvious exception.
>>736301087You need physical. Just got one myself. It's fucking way bigger than I thought it would be.
>>736296338>based on one 4chan postCould someone please post the post this is referring to?
I haven't tried Doom wads and there are apparently 50 different open source Doom projects for playing them, which one do I even use?
>>736296692Such is the falling away, I suppose.
>>736301284The inspiration is from Magic: The Gathering cardpacks. Confirmed by the creator.
>>736304527Matthew 4:4 KJVBut he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.2 Timothy 3:16-17 KJVAll scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.https://youtu.be/PIpvIVLQ2Dk
>>736303805Lame
>>736304947Oh, ye of little faith...
>>736296338How would you even adapt that book? So much of it is text tricks and subtlety. You can't just say 'errm make a spooky haunted house that goes on forever' because that's just the method used to explore the characters. Navy has a nasty habit of getting lost in his own shit and becoming withdrawn from his family. It gets so bad that his family fuckin falls apart around him. Then you get into layers where you wonder if Navy or Truant are actually the ones telling the story, if the old man is just making up a plot wrapped in metaphor, or maybe it's Navy's wife writing the damn thing. The point is it gets so fucking complex and self-sucking that the only way to escape is the same way Navy did: quit interpreting, return to what's important. It's the kind of story that can only be told through a book.
>>736296338I hate reading and I've never read a book in my life but this one kinda got me interested
>>736305152You won't like it. The vocabulary can be pretty steep for someone who has never read a book.
>>736305245I'll have you know I have more than a decade's worth of experience reading shitposts, surely that counts for something
>>736305413You know, maybe you're on to something. Give it a shot. Worst thing that could happen is you open a dictionary every couple pages.
>>736305116I think maybe as a VN?
>the last great work of american fiction>no games even remotely inspired by itWhy is this?
>>736308630Is this actually worth reading
>>736308828Sincere answer: it's a very funny novel about how it feels to be alive in odd times. I love it, but it might demand more from you than you'd like (especially if you've never read a real dense novel like this)
Every time I see someone make a youtube video about this book I get ANGRY
because that doom wad is pretty much definitive as an inspired work. It has literally everything the medium can offer in it.
>the Whalestoe letters
>>736296751I tried ages ago and fell asleep during the prologue. Really should give it another go.
>>736301824If you want to get maximum meta, The Lake House DLC goes so far as to have one of the first Poe songs since she got a court gag order over copywrite shit. She's also the sister of Mark D. the guy who wrote House of Leaves. IT GOES ALL THE WAY DOWN.
>>736301730Yeah I fully remember when faggots on Something Awful and other old forums were soifacing over this shitty gimmick book like it was the scariest thing ever put to paper. >Woah...le house is BIGGER ON THE INSIDE THAN THE OUTSIDE!!! AND THE TEXT IS ALL UPSIDE DOWN AND BACKWARDS!! LE MINOTAUR IS IN THE MIRROR!!! HELP ME NIGGERMAN I'M GOING INSAAAAAAANNNE!!
Nobody reads books. Global intelligence -- and subsequently, literacy -- has been decreasing over time (reverse Flynn effect.) And if you are within the small percentile of book readers, you either read megapopular bestselling normalfag trash or you talk to an echo chamber.
>>736296338>Why has nobody adapted this yet, or something like it, beyond the doom .wad?Anonymous 4chan post: no royalties.House of Leaves: royalties. Simple as.
I enjoyed the book, but the post-modernist structure is kinda of a gimmick. I would rather a normal prose so I can pirate it in my ebook and read it in my bed with the lights off.
The author was a one trick hack. He published a book after this with another dumb formatting gimmick that nobody bought, then he just vanished. I can't remember what it was called but I remember seeing a bunch of them on the Barnes and Noble discount rack.
>>736313169I thought book sales were up post pandemic
>>736312992The footnote nonsense is actually brilliant, but not for the reasons people think. The issue the writer faces is pacing: good writers control pacing via attention to detail. You slow a story down by focusing on details in the setting, and speed it up by focusing on events. This helps control the reader’s perception of the flow of time and makes the correct moments in the narrative have impact.The challenge is, when you pick for your setting “a black hallway that goes on forever”, what details do you dwell on? How do you control pacing when every expedition into the house could be reduced to “they walked for 2 hours in the dark”? Reading the book and skipping the footnote maze gives a sense of this; these sections are stupid short.So the clever trick is, you pad these sections with long footnotes about nonsense, that lead to other footnotes, that lead to other footnotes. You make it so the reader is blasting past meaningless text, flipping forward and backward through the book, gaining nothing, and 5 minutes later, they’re back on the page where they started and they’ve gotten through a sentence. That’s how you pad the pacing out when there’s nothing to talk about.
>>736315731The only book sales that are up are smut peddled by women on tiktok.
>>736315731>>736313169Women are basically keeping bookstores (both corpo and independent) afloat with their obsession with thinly veiled fatasy porn novels like that one about minotaur milking
>>736312256It's worth it I think.
>>736308828It mostly has a bad rap because there's a subset of reader that has IJ as their favorite book and is also insufferable and smug. The book itself is a bit overly long but is fine.
