>>736302798
This right here is why reviews start at 7/10. Gamers are infantile fucking babies and can’t handle real reviews, they chimp the fuck out whenever a game critic gives a game anything less than an 8. Depending on the game, even an 8 can be seen as an insult.

>>736302798
Imagine defending a multibillion dollar company for free

>>736302798
how is it not

>>736302798
People have opinions. You are free to listen or ignore them.

>>736303067
Shitty opinions are wrong. Like if you never played Mario as a kid you don’t deserve to review a movie made specifically for Mario fans. This is common sense

>>736302798
this is the opinion of someone who thinks life should all be joy and whimsy. the opinion of a man who keeps eternally coping at the fact he's not made for real life, and utterly failed it.

It is a movie adaptation's job to properly adapt the source material into a new medium. You shouldn't be expected to have played a video game to properly enjoy a movie.

>>736303268
Typical projection from a Afro headed Snoy living in section 8 housing, behind on child support payments, and making 30k/yr

>>736303292
No I think you need to be a fan of Mario to enjoy the made-for-fans Mario movie.

>>736302798
A lot of Mario fans are saying it's just another mediocre kids' movie. I love Mario but I'm not interested at all. No interest in any modern movies honestly.

>>736303236
Why adapt something into a new medium if you didn't want to find a new audience?

>>736303469
Because it’s not for a new audience. It’s a love letter to the fans. If you hate video games, hate Mario, and think it’s just a childish toy for babies, you can’t be trusted to deliver a reliable review for the Mario movie.

>>736302798
A movie must be good on its own merits, you don’t need to like capeshit to acknowledge that dark knight and into the spider verse are good. And not that I’m against his inclusion, but what kid gives a fuck about wart?

>>736303673
It’s not just for kids you fucking retard, it’s for older fans of Mario too. Use your head for 5 seconds

>>736302896
fippy bippy

>>736303819
older fans arguably have worse standards than kids lol, they'll see that shit, say "this is so gay" and go back to watch sonic movies

>>736302798
That's stupid. I love mario games and those "movies" are made for retarded gorillas who like seeing bright colors and "get" the references. There is far more merit to the 93 mario film than the illumination crap. It's all so tiring

>>736304718
Let me guess, you want a dark, edgy story with “Focus, M” dialogue

>>736302798
The image makes broad assumptions about strangers as a way to dismiss their critiques without addressing them, but yes you should very deliberately curate who's opinions you allow to influence your experience/opinion. My list is very short.

>>736302798
>echo chamber

>>736305612
Yeah critics are in an echo chamber.

But its not. Neither of these movies are made for Mario fans. The only praise comes from Tendies who worship the big red N like a god.

You can't dismiss a critic just because you disagree. However, if you give it a zero and claim you needed to stab yourself to distract from the pain of watching it then you should take your own dick out of your mouth and quit begging others to suck you off as hard as your own efforts.

>>736305690
>people that won’t have any criticisms should be reviewing instead

Did the first Sonic movie get this treatment? I can't remember

>>736302798
Just because the movie has epic gamer references doesn't mean it's above being critiqued as a movie. What a stupid sentiment. I like my bing bings but the first movie was a pretty underwhelming by the books illuminationslop kids movie, just this time with stupid references that manchildren can s*y face at

>>736306675
the first 2 sonic movies suck, who cares
Even the third one isn't that great but at least its something

>>736306856
you’re trying to reason with the most deranged fanbase on the planet lol

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>>736306675
sonic fags complained and got the movie changed. i wouldn't say it was good but they didn't reacted like this.

>>736306945
thats the problem. nintendo fans dont complain

>>736306856
I hate Mario and video games. I have nothing but disregard for these childish toys. Btw you need to respect my opinion about this video game movie made for fans

>>736306675
The worst parts of the first two Sonic movies were from scenes featuring the fat black racist lady.
The third movie mostly cut out the human characters besides the Roboniks and the quality was better because of it. Having more Sonic characters means more screentime for Sonic characters means none for the other shitty blacks.

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>>736302798
If it was made for Mario fans there would have been more Rosalina since this was supposed to be a Galaxy movie.

>>736302798
Because a movie can be judged on things like writing, animation, character design etc. You are arguing that it is ok to be a badly made movie if you aim it at fans. People can still pick it apart on its other issues. You don't need to like the IP to point out movie-based flaws.

>>736305306
nta, but no, I want fucking effort in the goddamn story, every fucking Pixar film (even the mediocre ones) has had more effort in the story department than Illumination's Mario movies

Why does "fan" have to be equated to people that accept anything and everything from a series? You don't see Lunar fans defend Lunar DS. Hell, if you want to keep it to Mario, people don't defend The Top 100.

>>736307059
Its not. If these movies were made for fans Mario would be saving Peach in the first movie and Luigi wouldn't be in the cuck cage.
You are only a "fan" of the big N. This causes you to eagerly swallow anything even vaguely related to Daddy Nintendo, even literal californian slop.

>>736307603
wreck it ralph is a better mario movie than the mario movie

>>736307696
tendies are on both the lgbt and autism spectrum. this is the best they can do

>>736307786
>current year
>people still don't know the difference between Disney and Pixar
still a based comment

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If something is only good because it references previously good things, it's not actually good in itself, it's shit and trying to manipulate you with nostalgia to appear better.

>>736305306
Not him, but I knew this would be garbage from the first movie when they made Peach into a girlboss and put Luigi in the cuck cage. All I'd ever want from a Mario movie to be JUST mario, instead I got californian garbage.

>>736307949
I knew it would be garbage when the last good game nintendo made was tropical freeze

>>736302896
it’s because they desperately need validation for a hobby they inherently understand is childish.

>>736302896
hey buddy, don't you dare yuck my fuckin yum... you don't wanna know what happened to the last guy who yucked my yum

>>736307949
I don't even know what they're thinking with Peach. If they didn't want to make her a damsel, if they wanted to make her useful, fine, whatever. But why overshadow Mario so hard? Does she really have to be a girlboss platforming prodigy that's also a skilled fighter that also has magical space princess powers and also can do no wrong? I don't know who this is for.

Why would I trust the opinion of so 60 year old film critic who has never played a video game to review Mario References: The Movie?
Did they expect it to be like There Will Be Blood or The Godfather?

>>736307946
>people who like thing enjoy seeing thing brought to life in a new way
>NOOOO IT'S NOT CINEMA WHY IS IT NOT LIKE TAXI DRIVER REEE

Since when did /v/ start caring about "professional" critics and reviews?

>>736309002
No, they expect a competent family film that can stand on it's own like The Lego Movie or Into the Spiderverse

>>736307946
>NOOOOOO IT CANT BE A FUN FAMILY ROMP FOR MARIO FANS OF ALL AGES IT JUST CANT!!!! WHY ISNT IT DEEP???? WHERE IS THE REALISTIC DIALOGUE AND THEMATIC MESSAGING???? WHY IS JUST FUCKING FUN????? I HATE FUN I FUCKING HATE IT

>>736309065
>>736309826
Yeah, so true. How dare these filthy heretics have some basic standards instead of just blindly deepthroating anything Nintendo shits out.
If this is such a wholesome love letter to the fans, then why is Mario being a player 2 while Luigi is stuck in the cuck cage in the first movie?

>>736310043
WAHHHHHH WHY IS IT FUN??? WHY IS IT FUCKING FUN???? HELP ME SNOY PLEASE MAKE A MATURE GOD OF WAR MOVIE FOR US MATURE GAMERS THAT HATE FUN AND LOVE BORING WALKING AND TALKING

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>>736302798
They went with Illumination specifically because they have as much disregard for story as Miyamoto has in Mario games.

>>736310139
>Tendies laugh and clap and grin when their beloved characters get butchered and go through humiliation rituals
Guess you and Snoys have a lot in common after all.

>>736310139
mind broken

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Who gives a shit about a dogshit movie for retarded american babies?

Its a DISGRACE that these shitty Mario movies are coming out faster than actual Mario games.
I hate that Nintendo fell for the slow AAA dev meme.

>>736309826
>>736310139
www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFnAVvM0OqY
this video is about (You)

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>>736307275
The ass-whooping that loyalist Nintendo faggots are taking for this movie on social media has been an extremely long time coming. Your pic related set off a TON of seethe in particular.

>>736310261
>>736310265
>>736310360
Go watch a Snoy movie game like Horizon or God of War you fucking queers. We get it, you hate fun, you hate Mario. The entire point of Mario is that it’s supposed to be fun first. If a game isn’t fun, why bother? Nintendo wisely took that mindset with the movie rather than give fans an unfaithful translation of Mario to film that would please retarded critics that hate games but alienate fans.

Thank God the N doesn’t listen to you pretentious shitlickers

>>736310557
be honest you don't watch a lot of movies do you Anon

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I liked the old one better

>>736310640
Not modern movies since it’s all garbage made for retarded women. I play games for the most part, even movie games like RE Requiem are better than real movies

>>736310743
what's your favorite movie anon

>>736302798
DON'T ASK QUESTIONS
JUST CONSUME PRODUCT AND GET EXCITED FOR NEXT PRODUCT

>>736310256
Still not as bad as nu-Pixar

>>736310823
The Prestige. And yours?

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>stop asking for quality and good stories and just COOOMZOOOOM

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Say it.

>>736310885
the made-for-tv movie The Cube which aired as part of the NBC Experiment in Television program in the 60's, you can watch it for free on archive.org if you're interested

The Prestige was alright

>>736311025
han short first

>>736306924
Cope
All sonic movies were good

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>>736311025
it.

>>736311052
Sounds cool. Why do you hate fun movies?

>>736311025
he says in defence of movies that literally by his own admission were an iraq war allegory

>>736311117
there are loads of fun movies with actual stories and aren't just 90 minute video game commercials

>they've never played a video game
what is this in response to, the original fucking move from 1993? everyone plays games, especially shit like mario. that's like if I said a recent rock album was shit and you mocked me for still listening to doo-wop and jazz and doing the goddamn charleston

>>736311187
But I saw the Mario Galaxy movie and it had a story. Did you see it?

>critics thrash first one because it wasn't political
>it makes gorillions
>critics thrash second one for the same reason
>it's making more gorillions
TOTAL
CRITIC
HUMILIATION

I hate critics but audiences have just as bad if not worse taste than them.

>>736310830
Compared to the 2010's where they just made endless sequel sloppa, I actually think Pixar has been pretty good lately, (except for Lightyear which is the worst film they've ever made)
I saw Hoppers last week and really enjoyed it.
Disney is forcing them to go back to making sequel sloppa again though. I don't care how many member berries you shove into the trailer, I'm not paying to see a fifth fucking Toy Story flick

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I thought it was a pretty good action flick, and I was not a fan of the first one. Peach even had a few scenes where she got to act like Peach. A few.

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>>736311318
The audience is overrating this movie out of spite, just as badly as critics are underrating it. It's an aggressively 6/10 kids' popcorn flick.

>>736311260
They didn’t black wash any characters but they cranked up the feminism dial to compensate

>>736311251
no but I saw the first one and it had no story, and all I've heard about this one is that it has somehow even less story than that one did

>>736311419
I honestly appreciate your take more than the other two groups

>>736311260
>political
Niggers its objectively a bad movie just think if wasn't a mario movie without le ebin references and had OCs instead would you like it? Of course not it would be generic illumination's slop

>>736302896
Earthshattering trvthqvake

>>736311456
But it did have a story though. Proof: go to the Wikipedia page for the super Mario bros movie (2023) and click the button that says plot

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>skim the thread
>there's an autist trying desperately to label the movies as "for the fans" despite how much shit the movies change, how "Illumination" it is, and doing all this while cutting Martinet out to parade him around at conventions, the ONLY place he doesn't want to be
>plus it's a Galaxy movie where Rosalina got herself forced out by Fox and girlboss-turned-literal-goddess Peach

>>736302798
Basically nobody hates Mario, he's so inoffensive that pretty much the only people that actively hate him are the gun-ball fans who legit think Mario should be on Xbox/PS and think the "focus, M" video is badass.
That and anyone pissed at the My Mario toy line existing, which is fair.

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>>736310706
Many a plebeian will tell you that Super Mario Bros. is a bad movie, or even a bad adaptation. The reality is that it is simply too good of an adaptation for most audiences to handle.
The truth of this fact is evident in many pieces of Mario fanart you can find on the internet. What is often the content? A dystopian Mario, a cyberpunk Mario, a hyper-realistic Koopas and Goombas Mario, a Mario that depicts an oppressive authoritarian regime. These artists pretend that they are innovators, but what they won't admit is that they simply stole that brilliance from visionary directors Rocky Morton and Annabel Jankel. The british couple who saw straight into the heart of the franchise and realized the potential it held, and from it they crafted the perfect film.

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Sony chads won again

>>736311652
the fucking anime movie from the 80's had more story and Shiggy himself criticized it for being too much like a videogame rather than a movie

>>736311656
>ITS NOT FOR FANS BECAUSE [autistic head canon]
Okay dude

>>736307895
Factually false, snoy on top for both.

>>736302798
Dude, to this day I can't understand why bing bing wahoo always get a pass for having a shit story. This has been true since the very first game. If for fucking almost 50 years your fucking franchise has never made an effort to create an actual deep interesting story that says something about life, humanity, the world, or society, then don't fucking cry when they tear it to shreds in the medium where story is the most important part of it all.

Is the second movie that much worse than the first? Because the first movie was garbage and I couldn't believe how many adults were defending it.

>>736311520
Don't care, anything that annoy or fucks with journo is objectively right

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>the Nintendo Adults are using kids as a meat shield again
This movie wasn't marketed to today's kids, but engineered to satiate very young ones for easy non-IP/story reasons, to turn their hollow approval into a weapon for their zoomlennial parents (the real marketing target for this movie, considering it's cynically evoking nostalgia for a game that came out in their childhoods/early teenhoods) to wield and defend it with.
>>736311505
It's dogwater. It's just not toxic dogwater.

>>736311790
Mario is a VIDEO GAME made for FUN NIGGA. It doesn’t need a deep political message, what the fuck are you even talking about it? Nintendo derangement syndrome is real

>>736302798
When did becoming Chris Chan on mass become acceptable online?

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The PS2 and PS4 (or rather the WiiU just shooting itself in the foot) really did a number on Nintendofags, huh. Now they have to defend EVERY FUCKING THING out of duty.

>>736302798
Mario movie haters are in this thread saying that Mario needs to have a deep message about life or politics or it’s a bad movie lmao

>>736311892
It's more of the same but with the tiktok audience in mind (designed on clips that makes it viral)

reminder that Nintendo has had more Directs about this fucking movie (2) in the past six months than actual general Directs (0).
>>736312379
Nobody said that. Jesus, no wonder you faggots hate any semblance of story. You fuckers can't read.

All I have to say is give us that Jr. for the next Smash and let the Koopalets have the copter

>>736312379
Just a decent story or developing the lore would be enough, shit you dont see in the games like the origin of the floating coins and blocks.

>>736312414
Fug meant for >>736311791

>>736312489
>nobody said that
>>736311790

>>736312518
NTA but WHO FUCKING CARES. That has to be the worst aspect of these hollywood sIoppa films, trying to rationalize and over explain dumb shit like that for RETARDS like you. I d o n o t f u c k i n g c a r e why coins float. Neither should you.

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>>736312505
>Koopalets
I knew you moviefags were fucking frauds holy shit (and no that's not some obscure term used in a different language, so don't pull that bullshit either)

I just think the viewing audience deserves better than what they got.

>>736312750
Especially since this is the centerpiece of the anniversary and what Mariofags are getting instead of a new mainline game anytime soon.

>>736312739
nigga it's a joke play on niglets or manlets jfc go outside

>>736305306
Personally, I would just like the movies to have more in common with the games. Characters don't act like themselves. Fox McCloud is there for apparently no explicit reason, it's just a stream of references for you to notice and it gets to a point where it's happening so much it's meaningless.

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>>736312693
>just turn off your brain and coomzoom breh

>>736302798
>a movie made specifically for Mario fans
>screws up literally every single aspect of mario it possibly can
>even ones it gets right like girlboss daisy are fucked because surprise, when every female and even some male characters are girlbosses, she's not even unique
>burn all possible sequel bridges
>make fox the star of the mario movie

>>736302896
It's not just gamers, it's consumers in general.

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>>736313082
yes, just have fun bro

>>736313082
Nigger stfu. If you want actually screen time dedicated to LE HECKIN SCIENCE of floating coins in Mario, you are a fucking RETARD and outright cattle. End of story. No more (You)'s

>>736305306
No, I want Shrek, not Minions.

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>>736312750
When the chips are down, Nintendofags WILL prioritize what maximizes sales above all, including pandering primarily to outsiders and fairweather Nintendo consumers. They're not even pretending that the movie is high quality either. They're just saying "yeah it's junk food but a 6 year old clapped at the bright colors and funny faces so that's good enough for me".

>>736311724
When will these bitches appear in Fan no Hitori JK demon hunters?

>>736302798
the critics are correct about the galaxy movie though.

>>736302798
You know I keep hearing a high report of individuals in regards to kids actually just checking out mentally of the movie before it’s over. That seems like a critical fuck up if it’s no better than background noise for the actual target audience. Or what is supposed to be the target audience

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>no political fun movie!

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>only character that does something in the movie
Was this shit secretly directed by G&W mains?

>>736306675
The Sonic movies were actually good.
Every Illuminations movie appeals to the lowest common denominator.

>>736313704
Let's not go too far. The Sonic movies are firmly in the "better than they have any right to be" category. Not outright GOOD, but surprisingly passable.

The Illumario movies, however, are in the "now this is exactly what I thought the Sonic movies would be" category.

>>736306675
Sonic 1 and 2 were not that well received either, but critics agreed that Jim Carrey and the action scenes were good enough. Then the third movie was 90% Jim Carrey and action scenes and critics called it a step in the right direction
Mario 2 has literally nothing, i think even Seth Rogen's DK would make it a little better, Jack Black Bowser and Charlie Day Luigi get less than three jokes each and every action scene is completely weightless. The only character you can kinda give a fuck is Rosalina and the Lumas and they are cut from the resr of the movie after the first five minutes, Chris Pratt and whoever voices Peach are really killing the series by being so completely uninteresting

>>736302798
What if I love Mario and still think the movie was gay and for babies? I'm assuming I just get cancelled on twitter for that or something.

>>736302798
reviews are fundamentally a marketing campaign for someone else's taste. feeling the need for your opinion to be consistent with critics all the time is unreasonable.
develop your own opinions.
the movie isn't supposed to be high art though

>>736314625
on twitter you'll be accused of being a sonicfag
here you'll be accused of being a sonyfag

loyal nintendofags are just going apeshit because this is the first time in a while that a big release of theirs is getting any notable criticism

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>>736303268
I never got adults who want media to be tame and sterile. Some of the best movies and cartoons are the ones that don't shy away from heavier subjects or aren't afraid to put some grit here and there. Bonus points if they have jokes that fly over kids' heads but the parents watching with them get it and laugh at it harder. It's crazy how a Mario movie fails to be a Mario movie.

>>736313163
>burn all possible sequel bridges
This is the big one for me. Instead of SMBM2 or SMBM3, now they have to adapt another game, or just outright go the Smash route and do a faggy crossover movie featuring the Mario cast.
>Movie 2: Wart and his crew cause trouble. Mario/Luigi/Toad/Yoshi/Peach
>Movie 3: Bowser Jr. and the Koopalings cause trouble. Same as above, but you can also mix Super Mario World with it
>Movie 4: This is where the Super Mario Galaxy movie should have happened. Rosalina appears, but also Daisy with some shenanigans by Tatanga. Post-credits is Wario raiding Mario or Peach's castle
>Movie 5: Wario and Mario go at it, Waluigi appears midway, Luigi and him fight. Post credits scene has Wario floating in the sea with Waluigi when a pirate ship appears, belonging to Captain Syrup
From there on, you have material to do a Wario movie, DK's movie would have already happened by now and after you've established the general cast, THEN you could maybe do stuff like Fox, big maybe.

>>736313218
Shalom

>>736314741
>this is the first time in a while that a big release of theirs is getting any notable criticism
Literally every single time a Switch 2 game releases a massive shitstorm ensues just by it merely existing, on here, on Youtube, on Twitter, everywhere. The Nintendo haters come out in full force to yell about how the Switch 2 is failing and then the Nintendo Army comes in and says its awesome and the best selling system ever. They hardly even talk about whatever game it actually is they just keep yelling about sales numbers. I don't get it.

>>736302798
It was a junk food movie. I had fun with it, but would I call it a "good movie?" Probably not. Was it offensively bad? No.

I do think a Star Fox movie might be good

>>736303634
>It’s a love letter to the fans.
lmao they made a Galaxy movie that barely features Rosalina.

>>736302896
A lot of the time, critics can make good, objective points. The Mario Galaxy Movie is a huge step down from the first one, that's objectively true. It's scatterbrained, doesn't feature much character development and Yoshi is just there for brand recognition.
But, critics can fail to recognize what makes something good. Sometimes being familiar with a medium or concept before seeing it adapted into a new form is an essential part of the process, and there's a very fine line between being true to the source material, or recharacterizing it to fit the new context, and just slapping it in to check boxes. And if you're not personally invested, the former can feel a lot like the latter. The first movie was better at staying on the authenticity side of that line as opposed to the cynical pandering side, but the new movie wasn't that much worse at it.
There are a small number of arbitrary choices like including Yoshi, Fox McCloud and Pikmin, all just to say they did, that really detract from the cohesiveness of the plot. But those are far from the biggest problems with the movie.

>>736315086
uhhh they didn't mean Super Mario Galaxy fans, you fucking chud, they meant Nintendo brand fans!!!

>>736314625
No one is defending the movie that hard other than selected loud autists, people thought the general opinion would improve after the first reviews but no youtuber or fan with a mental age above twelve could defend it even as a "it's good for what it is" case
It's a movie that is rotten at it's core, some few tards tried to make it about culture wars, but just like the first flick Mario and Luigi do nothing, the movie is about Peach and she barely does much either, fucking Mr. Game & Watch does more than the entire cast combined

>>736302798
>gameslop :(
>movieslop :D

>>736302798
critics are supposed to be impartial regardless of their tastes
if you hate shmups you can't just call a shmup shit because you don't like it. you gotta judge it from both a casualfaggot's point of view (how likely they're to enjoy it) and from an autistic enthusiast's (are the controls shit, scoring, bombing mechanics and stocks, death bombing, enemy formations and bullet patterns, shot types, etc.)