Why isn’t Sonic Heroes remembered as fondly as the Adventure games? I remember it being kino af.
>>736309228Because it's a shitty video game.Next question.
My mom never got me this game so I never got to play it until recently. Probably the same for a lot of other people
I don't remember finishing this game, but I remember playing every team, so I'm not sure if I dropped or memoryholed it.
>>736309228because it is not as good
It’s bad.>slippery movement>speed characters have unnatural acceleration>enemies have health bars>numerous sections where progression locked behind defeating every enemy>jank and unforgiving special stages>different teams are gloried difficulty settings>have to finish all of them to unlock the final boss
its more linear, slippery controls, an requires getting the emeralds from the stages for the full endingfun game otherwise
>>736309228>new playstyle which is never repeated >bare bones story>have to do each level as each team which gets repetitive as chamges are rather minorIt's a fun game dragged out to be way too long if you want to beat it.
>>736309316first post unfortunately kinda' trueGood parts to it, but overall it's not nearly as good as SA1 or 2.
>>736309695>>736309760This + Chaotix stages were really bad. They’re the “find the lost chao” mission from SA2 but mandatory.
When you play a different team, you don't get different levels. In the Adventure games, when you picked a character/team, you would get stages that were changed a lot or ones Sonic never got to see.Combat sucked.Just didn't control as well.
>>736309228The game needed more enemy variety like in the 2D games. Even the adventure games had more enemy variety.
>>736309316fpbp
>>736310407it did. the heavy eggrobos, the wizards, the e-1000s
Sonic Adventure 2 is the only good 3D Sonic game, and even then it's only barely good.
>>736309228Because the controls sucked ass.
>>736309228It was a mediocre game they forced you to play 4 times. There was not enough variety in the level design, difficulty or team abilities to warrant making the player go through that. Speed form was always the optimal choice, and the other forms where only need to solve a brain dead puzzle or engage with the shitty, damage-spongey, combat. It also wasted the opportunity to have character have charming dialogue with the characters and instead they yell over each other and point out basic observation on the environment.It also came after SA2 which had better game play, level design, story, variety, upgrade system, replayability, introduced some of the series favorite characters and had the Chao Garden.
>>736309228This was my first Sonic game, but I still recognize its many flaws.
>>736309228idk, it's pretty good
>>736310046>fail an objective in the Chaotix>get berated and lose a lifeAnd then they ask why nobody likes the Chaotix these days.
>>736309228I remember it being the first disappointing, mediocre mainline Sonic game.
>>736309316This. One of the worst 3d sonic games and that's saying alot
>>736309316>>736309945>>736310519>>736315201heroes is more iconic than adventure 2 btw
>a million different fangames based on mainline titles>no efforts to make better versions of Spinball, 3D Blast, etcWhat gives? I thought Sonic fans' autism was boundless.
>>736315397Anon it's not even close enough for your bait to be believable.I've gone to my local arcade with Sonic adventure 2 art on the walls, there's shirts being sold on steady hands with sonic adventure 1 and 2 art on them.. There's just so much less going on with heroes.
Team Rose is a waste of time and Chaotix isn’t good either.
>>736309228Its got a lot of Soul but the controls are worse and the games kinda grinds you down due to each team being a glorified difficulty slider rather than a unique experience.I think it be the best Sonic game to remake though. The levels and concept is solid it just needs more time in the oven.
>>736315845>I've gone to my local arcade with Sonic adventure 2nobody cares about your bumfuck arcade, consult my chart - NOW.
>>736309228People just want run in straight lines like they did in sa2, so they automatically have grievances with the health bars and forced combat despite being able to clear most them in about 5 seconds if you know what you're doing. But it certainly wasn't helped by the post game requirement (it really easily could've been get all emeralds with 1 team OR just finish with all 4 teams), special stages, bugginess, the 4 team's stages being too similar, and fucked pinball sections AND rail switching. It just has a lot going against it in general by its rushed nature and one of its two level designers collapsing during development.Even with all that shit it's fun and one of the easiest 3d games to just pick up and play. I'd ask for a remake but I have no faith they'd even make a game as good as the OG Heroes
>>736317072I'm not sure if the extra sales help it become more iconic. I just see SA2 celebrated so much more often than heroes.. It introduced Shadow after all... The Sonic 3 movie adapted it.
>>736315837Why not you anon
>>736317072>Sonic '06 only sold 870,000 unitsHuh? I thought that game was a Platinum Seller on Xbox 360; meaning it had to sell at least 1,000,000 units on that platform alone.
>>736309228As a kid I liked SA1 and 2 a lot, and Heroes was definitely a step down. I had fun with it, but it just wasn't on the same level.
>>736317072Did this person forget to add Generations?
>>736309228This was my return to the Sonic franchise back in the day and...it's alright. Just alright. I remember Rail Canyon being straight up dogshit as a stage though. That and the Team Chaotix missions sucked. Has some good stuff like Mystic Mansion and the Egg Fleet. Metal Sonic being the big bad was pretty cool. Could've done without needing to beat every team to unlock the true final end, just collecting the chaos emeralds should've been enough. And whoever said Tails and Knuckles shouldn't go super with Sonic should lay on the ground with their legs spread so I can stomp their nuts. Fuck you I still remember the disappointment.
>>736319158Tails and Knuckles shouldn’t be in the final boss at all. It’s the final showdown between Metal and Sonic. >LONG TIME NO SEE, SONIC MY LOATHSOME COPY (Oh and his third wheel friends who tagged along…)
Reminder that the son of one of the devs voiced Tails and made him sound like a retarded bitch
>>736319552B-but muh super power of teamwork. You're right though. At the very least it should've ended with Neo Metal Sonic vs Super Sonic one on one.
It doesn't control, the combat brings levels to a screeching halt, the physics are fucky especially in the casino zone which is really disappointing.I do like the overall product thoughbeit, I still play it every now and then.
>>736309695>slippery movementThis is a good thing, it accurately depicts the speed of the characters, they cannot just take off running and stop on a dime, this is good you retard.
>>736309228No chao garden.
>>736320021Wasn't a problem in the two games preceeding it.
I cleared it 2 or 3 times back in the day. I like how it was loosely structured like the Genesis games, but the execution on the team mechanic's on and off. Chaotix was there as a mixup when the other 3 were basically easy, normal and hard mode, take or leave what that meant. Honestly though, I think Shadow's basically this game but a touch better, consolidated a lot of the team mechanics and had a more ambitious, if not chaotic structure.
>>736320164Yeah it was, they stop on a dime, makes no sense considering not even the Genesis classics pull that shit.
>>736318332google says that 870k figure was only after the first 4 months of sale, sega probably never offered an updated sales figure after that
