Why does the modern gamer think they're entitled to constant updates?
>>736320359because companies ship unfinished games.
I mean valid, not every game has to be a live service, modern gamers are highkey spoiled. This was originally a game jam project. If you played it for 3 hours you already got more than what you paid for.
>>736320359Same reason the modern dev thinks they're entitled to sales.
The modern gamer grew up on Fortnite and Roblox. they arent used to games that aren't live service slop
Blame phonefags>refuse to pay prices like $1 a download>all traffic would go to the bottom biller until the game's are all free>devs obviously cannot sustain themselves on zero income, so alternative ways to monetize were sought after>after advertisements failed, microtransactions took off BIG time>microtransactions can only thrive in a fertile bed of constant stimulation where there's always new things to be excited to pay for>this leaps out of the free to play space and infects paid products as well>we've gone 3 console generations where people have unironically grown up being manipulated by freemium games as the norm, and they're baffled when a game doesn't follow that framework to pump content for repeat payersupdates are only necessary if the game ships unfinished like NMS was
>>736321549>>refuse to pay prices like $1 a downloadto be fair phone games are not worth this
>promise regular updates>get mad when fans expect regular updates
>>736321276In this case, gamers are right to ask for constant updates. It's streamerbait and friendslop. There's actually no game underneath the surface.
shit boring garbage bait thread. if you post the actual article everyone will see that the "journalist" is misrepresenting the devs as snarky when in reality theyre just saying they didnt expect peak to blow up and are stretched thin atm
Indie devs are speedrunning becoming no different than AAA. “You aren’t entitled to an update, incel” is something I would have expected to hear from a BioWare art director in 2014
>>736322020falseflag post. Corporate cocksucker hands typed this.
>>736321840some where, many weren'tbut when you're in the app store or play store you can't really evaluate if it's worth it or not without having first played the game.The free games got the download, and they successfully manipulated players into paying significantly more than 1 dollar through shit like stamina refreshes and premium currencies. King in particular capitalized on this idea and spread it far and wide due to how successful they became. Even before they were owned by Activision they were extremely jewish about this.
https://files.catbox.moe/bzvmtd.mp4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eokyPVACPsMNow that the dust has settled, who was in the wrong?
Maybe people would be more content with the game not getting updates if it wasn't a bare-bones tech demo
>>736320359Was this not an April Fool's joke?
>>736320359i want a battlepass with dlc hats
Forgot where but I saw a post of someones gen alpha nephew not understanding that most games end and aren't live service
nothing happened here
This is NOT the thread.
>>736320359Peak is an eight-dollar game that was never in early access. It was released as a complete game, and a cheap one, and it regularly goes on sale on top of that (it's currently $4.95 on steam). The tweet was ill-advised but they're not wrong. If the game was in early access and they abandoned it, that'd be reason to complain. If the game had a season pass and they stopped creating content for it, that'd be reason to complain. Neither of those things are true. Landfall is one of the better devs out there and the only way they're maybe not in the right here is that they'd have been better to not post the damn tweet, which is just a bad-PR magnet, even though they're 100% correct about it.
>>736323649Oh I just got done editing the Director's Cut of the Gang Wars incident. Let it forever be known that Team Win was ALWAYS in the right. We only defended ourselves after countless cases of cheating and targetted griefing against us and we didn't mess with the team who wasn't involved in our beef. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MG7ZgMrMsrc
Scout on scout violence…
>>736325579>watch video>friendly blues having fun with joyful kicks, harmless and played for laughs>no fun allowed>shouting slurs>flying around with godmode>spawning blowguns>throwing dynamite at indigenous civilians for 10 hours straighthmmm yeah i'm no so sure about that
>>736325902t.
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>>736325579mad can't be this based...
>>736320359I think it's because the community is a much bigger part of how we experience games now, and those communities need a constant flow of fresh content to stay active.This is front and center for multiplayer games (if you don't have an active community you literally cannot find games), but I think it's a growing component for single player games too.
peak.
>>736329236lobbies? Any lobbies in the near future or should i go be productive?I need to know NOW because whenever I start being productive you fags open a lobby on me.
>>736329454I can host but be careful with what you wish for...
>>736330316yarr
>>736330316*******.... did your ancestors actually do this?
THE RETVRN OF THE PIRATE LOBBIESGRAB SOME RUM AND GET IN ME SHIPTONIGHT WE BE SAILING THE SEVEN SEAS BOYS12p3x (non-luggage items turn into pirate compasses)A6 (nights last half as long)Randomsteam://joinlobby/3527290/109775245082901000/76561198196432370
>>736330719bro... give me a fucking letter at least
>>7363309507/12
Pirate lobby be rough partners...
>>736333562it always is
option A:>thank you all for supporting our game! We never expected this amount of success and we really appreciate that you turned us into millionaires! here's a few updates to show our appreciation to the community :)option B:>why are you demanding updates? why are you so entitled? you like the game enough to ask for MORE? you are a piece of shit bad personI wonder which one the sane and healthy non transexual developers will choose hmmmm
>>736320359because the industry made constant updates the norm and have trained new people into expecting it
>>736322020Kill yourself goycuck. Indies do make games. AAA is just moloch worshipping
>>736335839WE'RE BACK IN A BIG WAY!
>>736335839Coolest shit in the world
>>736335839and lore accurate
>>736330950gg boys We plundered the mountain. Next time I'll make a few adjustments to the item pool so that the Cursed Skull is not as common.
>>736335839Very nice.
>>736330950gga pirates life is a hard one
>>736320359>Ship an unfinished game>Bitch and moan when the people tell you it’s unfinished >Promise regular updates to keep them happy>Bitch and moan when the people try to hold you to itPush out a finished game with mod support and you won’t have to deal with it. It really is that simple.
>survive a year in Peak>Tenderfootlow hanging fruit stuff right there
Fried dopamine receptor hyperconsumers can't be alone with their thoughts for 10 minutes and need a constant dripfeed of new thing to keep them placated.
>>736336830ThisWhy haven't they delegated the map generation to the player base yet?Like, just make a built-in map generator and customizer. It will prolong the game for at least half a year for casuals and over a year for dedicated ones during which they can spend the time on making new biomes and items and cosmetics.Are they genuinely fucking stupid?Or are they still seething at a game jam project BTFO their passion project(s)?
>>736336853Don't talk shit about my oshi. In this house El Profeta is a hero. End of story.
Hear Ye Hear Ye!!!The Sovering of Trash brings a challenge to all you peasants, You will race for my entretaimentAnd the winner shall recive the grand prizeA 5$ Steam Gift CardInstall thishttps://thunderstore.io/c/peak/p/Thanks/PeakProceduralParkour/Tomorrow at 6cst*
>>736337979Interesting mod. I'll be there.
>>736337979not joining unless you turn on your mic
>>736337979Trash I won't want to bust your bubble but that mod is pretty bad.. like, not terrible, but more like "what's the point?"
Anyone interested in another Arena Tournament? I can host in about 8 hours
>>736338889I shall>>736339004fine, we'll do it vanillad
>>736323649>mad gets kicked off kiln right as they start spawning in items and instantly turns on flyhacksthis is the team that was complaining about cheating btw!!!
>>736320359Terraria does it!
>>736336590EXTREMELY RARE Purple Scout spotted!
>>736335839Pirate Lobby: Airport vs Pirate Lobby: Peak
>>736340048Ah, yes, with the kick mod that NO ONE FROM MY TEAM HAD. I turned the other cheek back in Alpine and Caldera. I even did it again at the start of the Kiln, I just wanted to play the game. But when Team CHEAT spawned in a bunch of Cure-Alls to revive yourselves just to keep griefing us I decided that enough is enough.
Many people today grew up on free games with constant micrtransactions being thrown in their face. Now they actually paid for a game and expect the same thing since they invested in it and expect it.
>>736340048i do not endorse mad's actions, all that cheating was cringe. team fail got kicked into lava right at the start of kiln. they should have accepted the loss and stayed there.
I have message for you: it's over. it's-it-it-it's you-you hear it right, it's over for you. for a lot of scouts, it's over. if you're a sub-8 scout and you've never had another scout carry you or you've never had your scout drawn it's over for you
the man who peaks
>>736320359People are cattle who beg for the slopThis is why people get indignant when YouTubers make enough money to retire, then they actually fuck off
>>736333741They did option A and then told people to fuck off and stop being GaaS addicts when they kept bothering the devs for more
>>736345453release official modding tools and we won't ever bother them again, we'll even let them rot with their new Crashout Crew because absolutely no one is excited for that shit except the devs.
do you guys think they play peak in the asia timezones
>>736320485Peak definitely feels finished, there's enough gameplay and stuff to unlock for the cost of the game.I otherwise totally agree with you for basically every other game that comes out these days. They release too early and people are now used to getting the rest later. We shouldn't have accepted these standards and let this become normal. This expectation is the consequences that the industry as a whole now has to deal with.
Is it too dead hours for a permacold robby?
>>736347961Kinda, I can play in 60 to 90 minutes
>>736344202<3
PERMACOLD LOBBYDed hours so I'll probably start with 3-4p. 8p1.25xA6Randomsteam://joinlobby/3527290/109775245120633424/76561198196432370
