Dumb question but wouldn't that make the ps5 pro a scam?
>cheaper power suppliesso either a fire hazard or the new RROD system
Its cheaper on the assumption that prices will go down when it releases
>>736323634that nigga smoking some shit, no way is the PS6 going to be cheaper than the PS5 Pro
>>736323634No because the Pro was a low volume product that was meant for people with money and enthusiasts for a higher end console experience. Some people dont want to wait 3 years to play on better hardware, and that is who the Pro was aimed at.
>>736323634>increase gpu>increase cpu>increase ram>cheaperSounds like a Trump supporter. And i mean a current dat Trump supporter. That level of delusion.
>MLIDHow is this fag still relevant? 99.999% of things he """leaks""" is fake shit
>>736323769*day
sony doesn't set the prices. TSMC does.
>>736323634>mlidI'd rather get my game information from my cat
>>736323634theres no way gddr7 will be cheaper than gddr6. its not economical feasible for either side sony or samsung.
>>736323785I thought he was reliable?
>>736323634That sounds like bullshit
>>736323718Very likely. Just look at the PS5's cooling design, they clearly rushed that thing out without proper durability testing. I'd be shocked if the PS6 goes more than two years without overheating issues.
>>736323634>$760 BOM meaning $900 final priceMLID is a retard and you're a retard for believing him OP. I guess you need another life lesson after that dumb fuck was wrong about the original PS5 Pro pricing.
>>736324339https://www.reddit.com/r/GamingLeaksAndRumours/wiki/index/he's under clickbait
>>736324493Was did he say about the ps5 pro price?
>>736323634>PS5, which was a PS4 port-machine, is getting another port-machineThe ironing
>>736324747>>736324339Sony issued a DMCA against his video after he leaked PS5 Pro specs. They were very accurate.
>>736323718if PS6 is more power efficient then it doesn't need as big of a power supply so its cheaper.
>>736324812That it would cost $600, it ended up costing $700.
>>736323634it's snoy cope. It will be a 1000$ console
>>736324873I mean could see him being accurate about the specs but Idk about the price
>>736324873He got the leak from Tom Henderson. Tom Henderson is tier 1 on that wiki list. MLID is tier 5 aka clickbait.
>>736324873See>>736324932He also claimed that Sony had enough RAM to last them the year without the need to hike the price and look where we are now. The fucker is even defending the price hike like a good little shill now.
>>736323634>wouldn't that make the ps5 pro a scam?the pro is a for-profit console with no subsidythe base PS6 needs to have a subsidy at launch or it won't sell at all
>>736325120>>736325051>>736324985To be fair that is kind of how everybody took what Sony said in that conference. They clearly meant that they had enough stock for the year.
>>736325183Taking anything Sony says to heart is as bad as taking anything Microsoft says to heart.
Even the ram alone for he PS6 would be like $500. I dont see this console being cheaper unless it seriously underpowered
Idts and I'm also expecting a ps+ increase
>>736324747Didn't know there was a chart
>>736325295they have contracts that will make it cheaper for them than common ram prices
>>736323634>raise price of PS5 and Pro 2 more times>Huzzah PS6 is only $1000!
I wonder about the price for the handheld
>>736326876400 USDcheaper than the switch 2 and deck
>>736326986That would be insane! Especially if it plays ps6 games
>>736323634>wouldn't that make the ps5 pro a scam?yeah, the whole point of the pro consoles is to scam diehards and youtubers/journalists, you're a fucking retard if you buy them instead of waiting for the actual next generation which will get even better upgrades
>>736324339he is more reliable in the PC space, but the console space not as much
>>736326296Not him, but is that why the PS5 got big price hikes?>>736326986Bullshit, it's going to be $700, $400 is a massive sales loss.
Wow a transheld system is going to be cheaper than a proper console? Mind blown.
>things get worse as time goes on
>>736327506They are thinking PS6 could be 699 with subsidies, handheld could very well be 599 with them as well
>>736327715That would be unprofitable, Sony wants a profit, they're not subsidizing that much, Orion will cost $900, Canis will cost $700. Current PS5 prices are a preview of next generation.
The world got worse after Nvidia released the best card in the world (1080ti)
>>736323634It will be stronger than base ps5, weaker than ps5 pro, like gpu generations.
>>736328026It all started with RTX 2000. That's when DLSS and Unreal was really getting pushed.
>PSP3>Vita 2>with no Japan StudioNo thanks
There is no price at which a PS6 could sell for that could convince /v/ to buy one.
>>736324747>reddit
It CAN be cheaper if they copy nintendo once again, making a hybrid console. Just like the switch was barely better if not worse than the wii u but portable.
>>736328546>/v/eddit
>>736323634>handheldso it'll come with a portal right out of the box?
>>736323634MLID is delusional. He keeps saying these things that are just impossible
>>736329192How are they impossible?
>>736323718Or just straight up a different architecture.Based on how the computer industry is moving away from x86, with the success of Apple silicon, the Switch 2 and low power server hardware, I wouldn’t be surprised at all if the PS6 is ARM based.Not only the PS6 but I also suspect the next Steam Deck will also be ARM.>it will be weakerHardly matters for most games.
>>736323718It just means an 8-year lifespan than 15
>>736328315yes because japan studio is why any of the PS consoles were as successful as they were... it was totally a blowout success of a studio financially...
>>736327929They sold PS5 at a loss for almost a year when it came out though. People thought it was going to be 1200 dollars too
>>736327929Remember $800 PS5?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsRIZEO0xGg&t=21s
Instead of 900 it’s 800. What a deal.
>>736329234Sony isn't gonna subsidize PS6/handheld hundreds of dollars. They'd lose billions.
>>736329723Why?
>>736329792Sony gave SIE (playstation division) a smackdown and SIE has changed since then. They're not gonna do jackshit for fans or gamers anymore.
>>736329897What did SIE do for fans and gamers before that they will not do anymore?
>>736323634>7 year old console>no gaems went from being consolewar shitposting to reality>increased prices for everything>can't even release their next gen on time by their own admissionwhat a time to be alive. at least it's hilarious that they fucked over R* and SE from getting people to double dip by releasing games right before a new gen of consoles.
>>736323634>ps6Whens the ps5 generation starting?
>>736328546RDNA2 is already considered end of life to AMD and that's the same architecture as PS5
>>736323634Sony is probably banking on the AI crash sooner than later, just like the early 2020s with crypto mining.
>>736330137>>736330212
>>736330212PS5 is more advanced than RDNA 2.
>>736330219>Ai crashAi is not crashing.>but it isnt profitableThe main goal of ai isnt profit, its power and control.
>>736330247Last I checked PS5 wasn't even real RDNA2. It was more like RDNA 1.5. Only Xbox is real RDNA2. PS5 doesn't even have Freesync lol so no LFC.
>>736330336PS5 is what they call RDNA 2.x. This is what allows the Pro to run FSR4.1 despite not being on later RDNAs.
>>736328156>weaker than ps5 prono it won't lol, the PS6 has 8 zen 6c cores for games, 30gb of vram, and a future RX 10070 equivalent. It will destroy the shit out of the ps5 pro.The ps5 pro is scam to make money with a "premium" product, it's barely an upgrade over the base console.
>>736330420>>736330336>>736330247RDNA is largely arbitrary marketing. When they say "feature only on RDNA X/Y/Z" it's more "we're forcing you to upgrade to get it" than anything. Sure, there are SOME hardware things, like the oft forgotten mesh shaders, but for the most part comparing RDNA generations is like arguing over which version of an SDK something was compiled against. If they wanted they can swap in newer drivers, which is why the PS5 keeps getting stuff that's supposedly not supported.
>>736323634da pro was always a 'extra' money machinenever meant for main stream/mass appealit's like saying iphone pro max is the the 'standard'
>>736330137>Whens the ps4 generation starting?ftfy
>>736328156so like switch 2 it will actually be punch above it's weight due to dlss
>>736330507I was told the PS3 would run games at 120fps
>>736330837Who told you that?
>>736326986
>>736330915the president of sony. people didn't believe in the power of "the cell" hard enough I guess.
>>736324897>thinking anything with AI-branded cores is efficientAnon, it's going to be RROD againThe cheapening on the cooling is to save money on copper per unit and cheaper PSUs mean they'll be physically lighter.
>>736330507
>>736331102Got a link?
>>736331394https://www.gamesindustry.biz/kutaragi-claims-ps3-could-run-at-120-fps
>>736331695Playstation really thought they could get away with anything back then, huh?
>>736330013make games
>>736331972Which games?
>>736323634PS5 Pro is for a small number of enthusiasts who have money. Making the base PS6 more expensive will kill it. >>736323769The PS5 Pro is currently $900 you subhuman. There is no universe where the PS6 is going to be more expensive. I will be laughing at you when the PS6 launches, knowing how absolutely retarded you will feel.
>>736323634Were there really people living in a fantasy world who thought the PS6 would be cheaper than the PS5 Pro?If they had thought more logically and not just with their hearts set on the brand, they would have realized that if that were the case, the PS5 Pro wouldn’t have been priced $200 higher higher than base PS5Since console prices have been rising for the past two generations, it’s illogical to think the opposite would happen now. They won’t sell at a loss anymore; instead, they’ll try to squeeze as much profit as possible out of their most diehard fans
>>736332146What if the $900 PS5 Pro sells poorly?
>>736323634>apu, ssd and ram are much more expensive>yeah but the heatsink and power supply thobro is an idiot
>>736332624Compared to what Sony paid for PS5's APU, SSD, and RAM in 2020 during Covid?
>>736332709yes tech isn't getting cheaper as you can tell from this gen
>>736332003bloodborne
>>736329474$800 is a deal. The PS5 specs are on par with a 5080. Look how much a 5080 costs nowadays.
>>736323769Rent free. Why do you love trump so much?
>>736332843Sure, it is. A $600 PS5 today is cheaper than the $1000 PS3 when it launched in 2006.
>>736332906Playstation didn't make Bloodborne and buying a console for one game is stupid. I'm looking at you, GTAfags.
>>736323634>every amd leaker is a sony shillHow'd that happen?
>>736331801they lied out their teeth for decades. so did everyone else though too.
>>736333145it will be cheaper if they sell the ps6 for a $300+ dollar loss
>>736323634The handheld will be cheaper
>>736333357Or they could just make a weak, cheap PS6.
>>736333692they can call it the ps5 pro
>>736330420>This is what allows the Pro to run FSR4.1 despite not being on later RDNAsRDNA3 and below can run FSR4.1, they just choose not to support it because well... it's AMD.
>>736323718yepanything they're going to save on initial production is going to be lost servicing all those busted consoles
>>736329320PS5 had competition with Xbox, PS6 doesn't.
>>736329429$760 BOM, anon, I guess you want Sony to go bankrupt again.
>>736334705That's Kepler's guess. MiLD is lower.
>>736323634Going cheap on cooling and PSU quality typically leads to fires, no?>Dumb question but wouldn't that make the ps5 pro a scam?I don't think so. It was built with the most common standards in the market. The PS6 (supposedly) is cutting corners.
>>736334748>Kepler vs MLIDI think Kepler is juuust a tiny bit more reliable especially when it comes to AMD stuff
>>736335130He's not as detailed as MLiD. It's easy to pin MLiD down for things that don't turn out to be true cause he puts out so much info. That's a harder standard to keep up. If you're gonna expose yourself that much, you're either cocky or confident. MLiD's BOM prediction is before the War in Iran started, but it was after the Trade Wars/AI Boom started. So, I can see MLiD changing his numbers a little higher to account for that soon. But not $200 higher. That's a big difference.
>>736332284I don't think it's selling poorly right now because everyone is buying it in case the price goes up even more and because of GTA 6In any case, sales weren't bad last yearhttps://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:bhqrrxt7yyfpwguioa7rwa7x/post/3mczzmditx227https://xcancel.com/shinobi602/status/2014463533744885780
>>736335380>$200 for 40gb ram>$100 for a 1tb Gen 4 (It'll be Gen 5 for the marketing gimmick again)Fucking come on anon
>>736335525Ask Mat how the PS5 Pro is selling after a few months at $900. I don't think it'll sell well, even if people think Sony will raise the price to $1000 or higher. My gut tells me there are not that many people willing to pay $900+ for a PS5 Pro just to play GTA 6. Even if trade-ins.
>>736335589Prove him wrong. I don't know how BOM pricing for consoles work. But people calling MLiD stupid/trash/liar never actually counter his claims. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-A3Bl2hXoQ
>>736324478They should make an openworld game based on that pic as the map.
the ps6 will launch with two modelsthe expensive normal ps6 which will be the equivelent of the pro, aka 750+ bucksand the handheld, closer to ps5 in power and the price of the basic ps5 pre price increaseall playstation games will be made for ps5 and ps6, ps6 will not have exclusive software for years, the ps5 versions guarantee there is always a version that runs on the handheld.
>>736335673>But people calling MLiD stupid/trash/liar never actually counter his claims. it's a twitterfag. do you also need to be told people with down syndrome are retarded?
>>736335626Think about this honestly, do you really believe that PlayStation fans wouldn't buy the PS6 for $1000 if there were no other way to get the latest PlayStation console on the market?There are also a lot of people who will want to skip the PS5 Pro to get the PS6, which will obviously be more expensiveIt's the same with $600 GPUs or $800 iPhones, companies keep raising prices on mid-range products, and people keep buying them. Consoles used to be considered mid range all-in-one gaming hardware because they were more affordable, but that won't be the case anymore
>>736335947Yea, I would like to know how MLID's BOW guess is inaccurate.
>>736335995>sony raises the price right at the end of the current gen>yooo the PS6 will be cheaper! pls watch my video.
>>736335963>Think about this honestly, do you really believe that PlayStation fans wouldn't buy the PS6 for $1000 if there were no other way to get the latest PlayStation console on the market?Yea, that's what happened to the PS3 at launch and the PS Vita and PSVR2 and the 3DS and the Wii U and the Sega Saturn...>There are also a lot of people who will want to skip the PS5 Pro to get the PS6, which will obviously be more expensiveWhy will it be more expensive? >It's the same with $600 GPUs or $800 iPhones, companies keep raising prices on mid-range products, and people keep buying them. Consoles used to be considered mid range all-in-one gaming hardware because they were more affordable, but that won't be the case anymoreI don't know what the sales are like for high-end GPUs, but I do know phone purchases aren't comparable to video game consoles. They're not the same kind of devices, they're not purchased in the same manner, and Apple is a much more successful company than Sony.
>>736336101>sony raises prices right at the end of the current gen>sales tank as a result>yooo the PS6 will be more expensive says the hot hand fallacy
>>736335673>Prove him wrongDo you want me to bring a PS6 back from the future? 30-40GB of DDR7 memory is going to cost a lot more than $200, I don't know what to tell you anon.>Moore's Law Is Dead believes that true next-gen PS6 titles may target 4K at 120 FPSThe 5090 can't even do that unless Snoys are about to get their first taste of FG4x and have 150ms input lag because the base game runs at 24fps.
>>736335830Specific console exclusives don't matter in the current year. PlayStation owns the home console space with XBOX committing suicide. The PS6 is essentially guaranteed timed exclusivity of any future Rockstar games. Normies will eat this up.
>>736336268>Do you want me to bring a PS6 back from the future? 30-40GB of DDR7 memory is going to cost a lot more than $200, I don't know what to tell you anon.What is a prediction? Yea, break down why 36GB to 40GB of GDDR7 will cost Sony a lot more than $200 per console. >The 5090 can't even do that unless Snoys are about to get their first taste of FG4x and have 150ms input lag because the base game runs at 24fps.Is that what MLiD says in the video? Native 4k/120FPS off the PS6 Year One, Day One?
>>736336268>>PS6>>4k>>60 fpslmaoit'll be 1080p/1440p upscaled to 4k with fsr or it's equivalent no doubt next gen's buzzword will be ai generated frames as it's next gen capabilities similar to how ssd's were this gen's main buzzword
>>736336446>Yea, break down why 36GB to 40GB of GDDR7 will cost Sony a lot more than $200 per console.I genuinely don't know how to respond to this absolute retardation. That's general dogshit DDR4 current ram prices nevermind GDDR7 when the jews at AMD and Nvidia are using that for their next gen AI GPUs even with the bulk sale discount.There's a reason AMD went with GDDR6X in their 90 series cards.
>>736336721>I genuinely don't know how to respond to this absolute retardation.I'll tell you how. You pull up a bunch of prices for GDDR7 that corporations pay to include in their products and project what GDDR7 prices will be like by mid 2027 when the PS6 will begin manufacturering. You support those prices with citations in the form of url links that I can look at to verify the authenticity of those values.
The only details of PS6 that have been corroborated by several sources are>late 2027>30gb ram >1tb ssd>no disc drive as standard (can add one)>capable of ai upscaling and frame generation >game sizes smaller because of neural texture compression>ps studios no longer porting single player games to pc
>>736332146>normies>buy the professional
>no you don't understand they just kneejerk price ps6 at 1500 dollars not like they planned the box and made contracts with chips and shit 6 years ago after ps5 got released
>>736337365The only people saying it will be more than $750 are coping pc and nintendo gamers
>>736333034What?>The ps5 is on par whit a grafix cardNot only it dosen't make any sense, but is not even true
>>736336148But this situation is different from the examples you saw. Back then, each company was incredibly foolish to charge such a high price, thinking their users would buy it, but now they’ve done something better: they’ve raised the price in increments>PS2 - $299>PS3 - $599>PS4 - $399>PS4 Pro - $399>PS5 - $499>PS5 Pro - $699>GameCube - $199>Wii - $249>Wii U - $299/$349>Switch - $299>Switch 2 - $449/$500Those are the launch prices, and I haven't even mentioned the price hike for Xbox consoles. PlayStation has always been profitable, and right now they can afford to charge high prices, they can take advantage of the current situation and do so, and people will buy it anyway>Why will it be more expensive? Read above>high-end GPUsThe price of a mid-range GPU, like Nvidia 60 series, used to be $300, but now the 16GB models are selling for $600 or more. The same goes for Amd RX 60 and 600 series, which are now more expensive than they were a few years ago>phone purchases aren't comparable to video game consolesI gave you that example so you could see the upward trend in prices, the same type of iPhone that cost $600 a few years ago when it first came out now costs $800
>>736337286The PS5 sold far more units than the PS4 Pro, even though it was $100 or $200 more expensiveThe PS6 will sell far more units than the PS5 Pro, even though it will be $100 or $200 more expensiveThe PS7 will sell far more units than the PS6 Pro, even though it will be $100 or $200 more expensive
>>736338179>but now they’ve done something better: they’ve raised the price in incrementsI don't see how this would change anything. What you're saying is as long as Nintendo only raises the price of the Switch 2 by $50 increments, eventually, even if the price reaches $10,000 per unit, people will still buy it. >Those are the launch pricesUnadjusted for inflation. >PlayStation has always been profitableNot during the PS3 era. Not during the beginning of the PS1/PS2 era. Even at the very beginning of the PS4 era the Playstation business wasn't profitable. >Read aboveListing the launch prices of console over the years unadjusted for inflation doesn't explain why the PS6 will launch for $900+. >The price of a mid-range GPU, like Nvidia 60 series, used to be $300, but now the 16GB models are selling for $600 or more. The same goes for Amd RX 60 and 600 series, which are now more expensive than they were a few years ago>I gave you that example so you could see the upward trend in prices, the same type of iPhone that cost $600 a few years ago when it first came out now costs $800Do you know what "inflation" is and why a sandwich only cost 5 cents in 100 years ago?
>>736338317>The PS6 will sell far more units than the PS5 Pro, even though it will be $100 or $200 more expensive$200 more before the price hikes, or after the two price hikes of the PS5 Pro?
>>736337802if they're planning on mainstream it gotta be cheap enough for people (tariff/iran/ai spoiling it)otherwise they're gonna be in danger that people stay on ps5/switch2the whole point is subsidize so people get on board to buy dlc/3rd party/psn to actually make money
>>736338421above 360 is flopzone, ps3 only made comeback at the 2minute warning
>>736336185it won't be more expensive despite every indicator pointing toward it being more expensive because of an undergrad rule of thumb?
>>736338528The PS3 made a comeback because Microsoft just stopped making games in 2010 and went all in on Kinect.
>>736338636There was the line about "sales tanking", but I guess we'll just ignore that.
Who here actually thought they were going to do the most extreme price hikes? i thought they would maybe do maybe 20 to 50 dollars more, not a 100 jump. this shows how bad the market it for parts. 150 bucks more for the pro is nuts when it was already 50 bucks more back in august 2025
>>736338718I ignored it because you're just implying it will happen despite everything pointing to the opposite.
>>736338837So, you think a $900 PS5 Pro will sell just as well as the $750 PS5 Pro?
>>736338752probably free profit and bump right before gtawill also look good if price between ps5/ps6 is minimal until they can actually drop prices or take a loss on ps6
>>736338881what the fuck are you even talking about anymore? this started out talking about if the PS6 will be cheaper than the new PS5 price point.
>>736339031>this started out talking about if the PS6 will be cheaper than the new PS5 price point.This discussion chain had two origins:>>736326876>>736325295One post was about the PS6 handheld and one was in response to OP's claim that the PS6 would be cheaper than the PS5 Pro. Where are you confused?
>>736338421>PS3 using the 20gb model aka not the 599 US DOLLARS modelMisleading graph.
>>736338454Thats what I said
>>736323634It may very well be cheaper to make, but that doesn't mean Snoy will make it cheaper for customers to buy.
>>736339229>the PS6 handheld
>>736339307Yea, I know. Playstation trying to compete with Nintendo will be such a failure.
>>736339368Sony handed Nintendo their most brutal L in history thoughbeit
>>736339305They'll make it cheap enough that it sells. Or it won't sell and it'll be the PS3 all over again.
>>736339431I guess Playstation trying to compete with Nintendo will be a good thing then. Competition is good for the market and good for consumers.
>>736339464Competition is always best for the gamers :P It will be interesting to see how they go head to head with XBOX out of the picture.
>>736323634The PS6 portable will hold back gaming like the Series S did.
>>736340023If the game is on PC or mobile, it's already holding back gaming.
>>736339307>>736339368PS6 handheld is going to cause massive seethe on this board. It's going to mog the Switch 2 so badly.
I'm a PCfag, and I won't ever buy a piece of Sony hardware, but I believe the handheld will be $500-$550, at most $600. The Legion Go S is currently being sold at $650 and this is with ram prices being retarded. Also Lenovo cannot subsidize their handheld and needs to sell at a profit. The hardware inside the Legion Go S is a chopped down Z2E and it still performs pretty closely with the Series S at a 17w TDP and this is ALSO running W11 bloatware and games that aren't optimized specifically for it. Sony always manages to somehow get magical god-tier contracts as well so I expect the console to be <$800>b-b-but the PS5 Pro!!The PS5 Pro's only reasons to exist are to siphon money from rich paypiggies (not poorfags) and to give their third-party partners better grafics to show off during marketing stints (CAPTURED ON THE PS5***.) Only a fool would think that the original MSRP and recent price hikes were because they were selling the Pros at a loss. They'll axe it months before the PS6 comes out like they did the PS4 Pro. Majority of consumers won't even remember what the Pro's price was and they'll see the PS6 at $700 compared to PS5's $600 and think WOW what a deal.
>>736323634Snoys salivating to buy the PS6 when the PS5 still has a single digit number of exclusives is fucking hilarious.
>>736340338Welcome to the world. People don't just buy consoles for exclusives.
>>736323634>MLIDretard
>>736340338No one’s salivating for a ps6. It’s unironically these pc centric leakers who keep bringing it up.
>>736326986>Snoys unironically think this
>>736340218>the PS3 will kill PCs>the PS4 is groundbreaking>the PS5 has a SSD this has never been done before!>okay we're still running games at sub 30fps and 720p, but the PS6 is going to be legendary!
>>736340526Name one game that runs at sub 30fps at 720p on the PS5
So you have to buy two pieces of hardware to get the full home console plus handheld experience? Snoy is worse than fucking Apple and yet you dumb niggers will eat this up
>>736340635Who said that? PS6 handheld reportedly will be dockable
>>736340564just one?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Am0ER7iW2lo
>>736340653So if you want to play handheld you're buying the Series S and if you want the actual console with non dogshit power you have to get the "Series X" version, oh then they'll make yoo buy the Pro in 4 years because the piece of shit won't keep up
>>736340706Actually it's a dynamic range up to 1080 and that is before being upscaled to a 4k image. Also at 60fps
>>736340737>dynamic resolution>upscaling
>>736340791yeah, keeping up with more than most PCs just fine.
>>736340737>shill outlet for sony>but it's clear that Konami has not optimised for 60fps strictly here; both base PS5 and PS5 Pro waver between 40-60fps, with drops to 30 possible as well - with Pro hardware often coming out worse in comparison. consolekeks are something else.
why are we getting a ps6
>>736340803Give me actual raw graphicsI don't have a need to play shit with fake frames and fake pixels
>>736340815The pro got a big improvement patch though. And neither is sub 30fps/720p. It's 720p-1080p upscaled to 4k image at 60fps. PS5 Pro has an even higher internal res target too. PC cattle love referencing old data just so it makes their vehicle priced paperweights look not as much of a scam
>>736340874>PS5 DOESN'T HAVE 720p UPSCALED>It's 720p-1080p upscaled to 4k image at 60fps
>>736340839They've probably been planning this for years and have contracts in place. My take is that they bet on Trump imploding before November 2027 and think they can weather this out. Also increasing PS5 prices helps convince people to just wait for the PS6 instead so it will drive sales even if they're at a loss.
>>736340923Somebody said it was sub 30fps/720p as if it consistently ran at 30fps and didnt use any upscaling to resolve to a clean 4k image dipshit
>ps3 visuals looked great>make hardware capable of running such games at 60-90 fps>stay there and keep it cheapsimple as
>>736323634>cheaper cooling & power suppliesAfter generations of consoles with no games, Sony finally announced the console that'll take your games away... In a house fire.
>>736340948>as if it consistently ran at 30fps and didnt use any upscalingyou are such a fucking clown, jesus christ.
>>736340839modern graphics>>736340862fake pixels and frames
>>736340928imagine banking your entire consoles success on gta 6, and then you just release the next console before gta 6 is even out, with no major system seller exclusive for the ps5, why are we even doing this anymore this is just performative console releases
>>736341016gta skipped last gen
>>736341062they did get rdr2 though
>>736341062ok but gta 6 was specifically marketed as "the ps5 game". so if everybody goes and sells their ps5s to buy a ps6, gta 6 is stuck on last gen for a year and gets no sales
>>736341240wasnt an issue with ps3 and gta v. it launched like 2 months before ps4 came out.
>>736341240muh pc consoleswe are forever in crossgen now
>tfw GTA6 gets a PS4 port
>>736334748Kepler is more realistic and reliable, MLID is retarded.>>736335380MLID keeps forgetting about the RAM shortage and inflation which is why his price estimations are ALWAYS WRONG.
>>736335830If the Orion's BOM is $760, it's going to be a lot higher than $750+, anon. Handheld is going to be higher than the Switch 2 OLED, and will be higher than the Steam Deck 2 when that comes around mid 2028.
>>736340338I spent enough time with both Snoys and Xbots to know that they're both very retarded and defend any bad decision Sony and Microsoft make. They're beyond help, anon.
