>beloved masterpiece suddenly becomes hated solely due to youtubers
>masterpieceHGSS is superior in every single way
>>736329436Being contrarian and hating on beloved things is an easy way to bait for clicks and get ad revenue.
>>736329436Been saying forever these games were dogshit. Gen 3 was the first playable gen and blew gen 1 and 2 out of the water so hard that even back then everyone dropped it. It's only been recently here that people have been spamming threads for gen 1 and 2 for some fucking reason. It's like some retard thirdie played pokemon for the first time. >masterpiece The remake was better, by a lot.
>>736329436Its gen 5 zoomers who don’t understand why gen 5 will always be the absolute dogshit worst gen and are desperate to try and shift it elsewhere.
>>736329467The 2.5D DS games are fucking ugly and I will not pretend otherwise.
>>7363294363>1>22 was always shit and has by far the worst Pokemon designs, that's why they gave you a watered down Kanto as an apology consolation prize.
>>736329929Gen 5 pales in comparison to the first 4 gens and even 6 and 7 but let's be real here, it's still better than gens 8 and 9
>>736329436This was just a lame stunt to shill his romhack.His hack is very generic, hacks like Polished Crystal already do what he proposes.
>>736329436Gen 3 was the only good Pokemon gen. Emerald was so good it doesn't deserve to get lumped in with the rest of this garbage franchise.
>>736329436>solely due to youtubersA lot of people just think the game fucking sucks dude. We've thought it for years but were always dismissed as shitposters and contrarians. Gen 2 is a fucking mess from top to bottom and it's genuine autism that holds up its reputation.
>>736330039i always like to imagine hoennfags pulling out their roster of illumise and luvdisk and masquerain and gorebyss and lopunny and gardevoir and explaining how chinchou is a bad pokemon that doesnt fit pokemons design, because the core quality that makes a pokemon a pokemon is that hoennfag is sexually aroused by it.
>>736330430>weI doubt any of you zooms even played it. Just HG/SS for the basics and youtuber opinions to round out the rest.
>>736330440>ChinchouHoenn Pokemon, that's a bad example
>>736329824>Gen 3 was the first playable gendumbass zoomer everyone sane was already over pokemon by then
>>736330481i did intentionally misplace a pokemon, but it was not chinchou/lanturn which is gen 2.
>>736330440>lopunnydpp>>736330481chinchougscI'm beset on all sides by frauds
>>736330430Shut the fuck up zoomer.
Hoenn genuinely and unironically had too much water. I mean that from the bottom of my heart. I dropped it when they gave me Dive, the absolute gayest HM of all time.
>>736330430>We've thought it for years"we" as in redditors, right? Because these were always considered as the better side of the series here.
>>736330478I grew up with Gold as my first Pokemon game (technically Silver but it got stolen before I even beat it) and I thought Yellow was better even in 2002.>challenging dungeons>better legendaries>better Pokemon in general>not limited to one evolutionary stone per game>don't have to fuck around with weird shit like happiness to evolve anything>no "oops you started playing too late tonight, only Hoothoot for you">no "oops sorry this store isn't open, guess you have to wait until tomorrow!"
>>736329929Yawnfag get the FUCK out.
>>736330543>>736330556Bro I just meant that Chinchou is in the Hoenn dex, I don't see why Hoennfags would complain about it and not something like Qwilfish instead
>>736330430We?
>>736330729>>736330814We as in people who dislike GSCDuh
>>736330498I was alive before gen1 hit markets in NA, totally a zoomer. You niggersnare exhausting to deal with. Constantly showcasing your inability to read between the lines. If I played gen fucking 3 I was born before the year 2000.
>>736329436Johto is pretty shit, but Crystal is still my favourite game.
>>736329436People whining about Johto's Pokemon being bad is so funny to me because a good 90% of any given game's Pokemon are capable of pulling their weight if you don't play like a retarded chimpanzee. Just last year I did a run of Crystal where fucking Furret of all Pokemon was a solid team member from the very start to the fight against Red.
>he doesn't know furret is considered a top tier by nuzlockers for gen2
>>736329929I'm a millennial and I enjoyed gen 5 even back then. Gameplay wise it was a big improvement over previous gens and it gave me my all time favourite pokemon (in a non-lustful way), Volcarona. And in retrospect is has only gotten better. It's really a "we didn't know how good we had it" situation because everything past gen 6 has been garbage.That said my least favourite gen is gen 3, not counting anything past gen 6.
>>736329436I hated Johto before Youtubers did it.
>>736331256>in a non-lustful waythe fact you felt the need to mention this tells me your ass is lying
>>736329436The whole point of these vids is that the YouTuber in question with a team of devs when and made a rom hack addressing all the problems they reported in these vids, is called Crystal Legacy.
>>736331331You misunderstood. I specified that because if I rate pokemon without disregarding lust, I will obviously rate stuff like Kirlia, Gardevoir, Lopunny etc. higher.
/v/ favorite game
>>736329467I used to think Crystal was the best way to play Gen 2 but nowadays I agree HGSS is just better. The evolutions that Gen 4 gave to Johto Pokemon makes team building a lot more varied
>>736329929I have a friend that always said Gen 5 was the best Gen and constantly glazes it and then I come to find out it’s the only Gen he played in his childhood. Everything made sense after that
>>736331854Gen 5 is the best gen.
>>736331620Ok then it must be shit.
>>736331620that bad, huh?
>>736331620Where's League of Legends on this?
>>736332351That list was made before league was a thing.
>>736332430Well was there ever an updated list?
balls deep in sneasel
>>736329467Any pokemon game with more than 300 mon is inferior slop.
>>736332969>more than 300 mon is inferior slopGen. 3 and onwards is inferior slop to you?
>>736329467FPBP
>>736329436Johto definitely has more flaws than we realized back then, but by no means are G/S/C a "bad game". For me, time has simply dropped them from A tier to B tier. They're still very good.Also, Crystal's biggest flaw is that you can't catch the Mareep line for some inexplicable reason.
>>736333726Yes. Legends Arceus and ZA are saved for being more focused and bringing QoL features.
>>736330747>oops you started playing too late tonight,You can change the clock, retard
>>736329436>watching youtube in current year
>>736329436The experience of playing Gen 1 Pokemon and then playing Gen 2 was indescribable. I could try put it into words, but I don't think I can capture the feeling. It was not like it is nowadays where you just get new pokemon, it was the first time it happened and you got an entire new dex. As a kid it was something else.
>>736334893Yeah if you use an esoteric cheat code that requires a number that is literally impossible to calculate on your own that wasn't known about until the later 2000s. Dumbo.
>>736335178seeing previews in nintendo power had me so hyped
>>736330747>oops sorry this store isn't open, guess you have to wait until tomorrow!when and where
>>736329436Nah Johto was always shit. I remember even back then being disappointed. Kanto is kinda shit too.
>>736329436Pokemon is trash but only retards listen to youtubers.Their job isn’t to present genuine information but to farm clicks and views for ad revenue. If you watch this shit you’re a turbo retard that falls for the oldest trick in the book: click bait. The reality is that you shouldn’t even be watching this trash anyway. If you like video games you should be playing them.
>>736335297Everything in Goldenrod tunnel.
>>736335478so haircuts?
>>736335543And two shops.
>>736335178>I could try put it into words, but I don't think I can capture the feeling.I can.>What happened to the magic? Why are these new Pokemon so bad? Why is Kanto so empty? This is depressing, I'm going back to Yellow
>>736335675>What happened to the magic?your reddit is showing
>>736335614only the bargain shop is time dependent, and all you get is some pocket change once a week
>>736335714That's just how it felt. You had to be there.
>>736335714You know gen 2 sold substantially worse than gen 1.
>>736336136Fortunately I don't have any nintnedo stocks so how much money they make doesn't concern me.
>>736336176It's unpopular.
>>736336176My point is that a lot people lost interest.
>>736336209I wasn't aware popularity determined quality. Guess cowadoody and fortnite are quality games.
>>736329436If your opinion is swayed by someone is financially incentivised to piss you off whether they hold that view or not, then it was worthless to begin with.
>>736336270Nobody said it did
>>736329436I played gen 1, 2 and 3 when each one came out and I always said that 2 is by far the worst of the old gamesThis is not a recent trend and not made up by jewtubers
>>736336323so neither of those things are relevant to the game's quality then
>>736329467Anything pre physical/special split is trash
>>736336361God, you're insufferable.
>>736336476woman-brained post
>>736329467
Was Emerald worse than you remember?
>>736329436>Game played by tens of millions of peoplevs>A video with 66k viewsMods, ban this retard.
>>736336530ask me again when I'm making an emerald romhack
>>736334329mareep is overrated shit, just slap thunderpunch onto typhlosion.
>>736336510
>>736336530I dont know but I think it's time for another playthrough.
What the actual FUCK is wrong with Pokemon? How does a series have such absolute, tribalistic fans that YOUR favorite game is the absolute best and the rest are irredeemable dogshit? Why are you not allowed to say "yeah this one's my favorite but these other ones are good too and I like some elements in them".
>>736336136>the best selling GameBoy Color game sold worse than a game that was released four times
>>736336736sharteens live to have the same bad faith arguments over and over again to farm attention
Going back to Kanto after beating the Elite 4 blew my 6 year old mind.
>>7363367361. The games themselves are designed that way, making you pick a color before you even open the game's packaging.2. Secondaries who weren't around since the beginning don't have a holistic perspective of what Pokémon was like, and only focus on the GameBoy games, which didn't even represent a fifth of the franchise going into the turn of the millennium.
>>736329436the pokemon series in 2026 is for brown children and fat retards. Let them change history if they want who cares.
>>736329436>watches youtube men>is obsessed >cries about youtube men 24x7Kill yourself I have no idea what fake and gay controversy you are talking about. Stop watching youtube men 24x7.
Gen 1 and 2 are bad.Gen 3, 4 and 5 were the peak.Gen 6, 7 and 8 was the dark age.Gen 9 and 10 is a return to form.If you still hate Pokémon now, then you're a retarded nostalgia blinded genwunner/Johtoddler. Your crappy glitchy games have been severely outmoded for eons now. Pic related is you.
>>736338065>8 in the dark age>9, worse and glitchier in every way, is a return to form
>>736336736Did you really expect intelligent discussion from adults playing a game for autistic kids?
>>736337474So you've finally given up.
>>736338065I lost interest in Pokemon after gen 2 and couldn't be bothered to give it another shot until 8. I played through them all except the 3DS games recently and can say with confidence that it was all downhill after 3. I would call Platinum okay if I wanted to be charitable.
Gen II always sucked.Boring region>The worst starters(Feraligatr is the only viable one)>Most of the Pokemon you meet are from Gen I>Gen II was a Gen I expansion more than an actual Gen II, HGSS was their chance to make it somewhat salvageable and they failed >Kanto was watered down and barren, and it shows that Johto had to get neutered for it to matter at all>Trainer rematches are a bitch and a half, and some are outright useless>Gym Leader rematches require a specific set of conditions that are tedious as hell, but needed if you want to level up your team sufficiently>Level scaling is horrendous. Even with a lucky egg, you'll struggle to get your team properly leveled. Fuck you, this was a legit problem>Wild Pokemon in Kanto are LV. 5-10 but the trainers are 40+>Gen II's batch of Pokemon are comprised of shitty throwaways that had to wait until Gen IV to become useful, and even then there's a good chunk of them that are still ass. Only a few were viable to use>The remakes didn't fix any of the problems at all. None at all. The Apricorn balls are useless still, there's no reason to use Chikorita or Cyndaquil, the latter only being a Fire-type and even then you can use a Flying-type or Fighting-type to do its work, and it only showed you couldn't do a multi-region game>The special stat was fixed, but you still had Pokemon who had tremendous attack but still had special type STAB. Sneasel was damn near useless and Hitmonchan still couldn't utilize the elemental punches>Gen II's variety was so bad, Lance had to use three Dragonites and didn't even use a Kingdra. Even Bruno could make a team of six Fighting-types back in Gen I. Gen IV had to fix another one of Gen II's problems yet againThese were problems Gen II had for years, some youtube faggots are simply making money off these sentiments.Filename related; HGSS did not fix any of G/S/C's problems.
>>736338116Not him but 9 is far better than 8. 9 is the fully realized version of what the Wild Area was trying to be.
>>736329824>gen 3 was the first playable genHoly fuckinf BASED.
>>736338065Nice bait bro
>>736329436>"It's bad">"The problem with..">"The Rise and Fall of.."Immediately ignore. Just a bunch of grifters that get paid if they get your attention.
>>736329436This started with zelda, zoomers are obsessed with the idea of "objective game design" and will literally make entire youtube careers based on trying to "fix" "badly designed" games that arent actually badly designed, but instead are just not designed in the way retarded longform video essayists say games are supposed to be.My favourite is when they, the most illiterate generation since the cavemen, attempt to "fix totk's story" but its literally just naruto as recalled by a moron.
>>736329436GSC is a meme, they couldn't even code Johto properly until Iwata came along and fixed it, then they realized they could fit Kanto and added it with no structure or stories just because they could.
