Apparently the Ashes of Creation studio grabbed the money and ran away. The game is dead. What happened? Didn't they just release?
Unironically can we just stick to playing WoW and OSRS? MMOs are a cannibalistic genre: they can only be created if they leech players from another game. We all win more if we stick to the same 2-3 games. I'll even be nice and let FFXIV, GW2 and Maplestory join the bunch too, but can we agree to play only these five games?
>An old school take on the modern MMORPGas opposed to an old school take on the non-modern MMORPG?
>>736332643do wowtards really think their slop is more popular than FFXIV?
>>736333571Dawntrail killed FFXIV only the trannies and groomers stuck around
>>736332508Promised the world and delivered none of it. Kickstarter only covers that you release something, not that's it's good.
Unreal Engine 5
>>736334323my uncle bob made his own ashes of creation in godot
>>736332508I'm actually curious about this. I've been receiving newsletters from these guys for years.Can someone give me a rundown of what happened in detail? Did the game finally release and its then?
>>736332508tl;dr known gay sociopath (known to be a sociopath from his days playing another MMO) fleeces investors out of millions, does the absolute bare minimum to fulfill his legal obligations (for example, "releasing the game on Steam") to minimize the likelihood that he'll be prosecuted for fraud, and then dissolves the company because "the board" ("the board" is him and his husband, by the way) is asking him to do things he won't do "out of principle".Yes, it's a massive scam. It wouldn't be unethical to just kill this scumbag.
>>736332643nah just kill all mmos. Their time is over.
>>736332508what money?
>>736332508something something kickstarter something something game not delivered something something no refunds something something thanks for your support lmao
>>736334821its looking like all of this is gonna come out in discovery so stay tunedkiratv is being retarded and saying he has insider info and then vagueposts saying guys guys dont believe the rumorsbut now theres legal proceedings
>>736334137Funny because the trannies and groomers jumped ship to their new bff WoW
>>736332643This but kill WoW and FFXIV and let ESO live
>>736332643this has always been my take, people keep wanting new MMO's but the genre already has something for everyone. there genuinely isn't room for any more
>>736332508ran out of mana dood
>>736332508>Founder starts a kickstarter to supposedly make his dream MMO>Claims that he's essentially an eccentric billionaire who has the project fully funded with his own personal fortune and the kickstarter was mostly to gauge interest in the MMO concept>The development takes 10 years just to begin the alpha, while having weird scammy things like the attempted launch of a spinoff Battle Royale game and selling alpha and beta keys with cosmetics for hundreds of dollars>Then there's a sudden Steam launch announcement out of nowhere... when the game was still in Alpha 2 with only three zones and bare-bones systems>Two months later, there's a rug pull>The founder guy claims that the Board had taken over and were trying to steal the Steam launch money and rug pull>Everyone responds with "What Board? I thought you said you were funding this game with your own personal fortune.">Turns out the founder guy had been courting investor money the whole fucking time with promises that it would be the new WoW and it doesn't look like he put a single red cent of his own money into the game>Now the founder guy is claiming that the investors were plotting to take all the Steam Early Access money and sell off what's left of the game to the Chinese>The investors claim that the investor guy was scamming the whole time and that the whole project was basically a big embezzlement job from the first, and claim that he used significant amounts of company funds to buy a mansion and go on extravagant vacations and trips.It's all going to court, and we'll probably learn the whole truth there, but the founder guy is confirmed to have been lying about "I'm just an eccentric billionaire funding my own pet project video game" thing the whole time.
lazypeon and piratesoftware lost
>>736342152>How can I repair my reputation after making myself the villain of the Stop Killing Games debacle?>Oh, I know!>I'll become Ashes of Creation's biggest shill!
>>736342152lazypeon is probably balls deep in a dubiously legal thai prostitute as we speak, probably a ladyboy too. dirty little bastard. out of all the places he could've moved to in thailand, he picks pattaya, the sex tourism capital. he's not fooling anyone.
>>736342030Also, the fuckers still have the game's page up on Steam. They didn't even remove the ability to purchase it, Valve did that themselves. They were straight up going to let people continue on purchasing their dead MMO if Valve didn't do anything.
>>736342030And this is some random cocksucker, now imagine the amount of money that's embezzled at AAA companies and the amount of drama and corporate backstabbing that happens there on the daily.It'a no wonder nobody gets shit done and all their games suck.
>>736332643>Unironically can we just stick to playing WoW and OSRS?No, I'm still addicted to Final Fantasy XI and I will NOT be playing anything else.
>>736342593Holy based!https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pKouIrI4nj8&pp=ygUORnJlZCBwZXJleSBtb20%3D
>>736342464The implosion was so perfect that after a day there were no people left to clean things up and even the game servers were left on their own to die when they die or when amazon took their service away.
>>736332508never trust a wow killer
>>736332643i'm sick of retirement MMOs, i'd like atleast one more new and good game in the genre
Nobody plays MMOs anymoreThey all suck and were never good, just a tool for social interacti
>>736335518But sociopaths are the only people who matter and everyone else exists solely to be used by sociopaths.
>>736332508>Ashes of Creation's biggest and most consistent YouTube blows the whistle that there's nothing there in in the alpha, all the systems they had supposedly been testing for a decade are still in a proof of concept state and assets and zones they had treated as completed and ready to go are taking forever to come out and significant chunks of the desert region were just fucking empty even though they had showcased it as an essentially completed region years back>Everyone claims he's just crazy and trying to start dramaI hope you've all apologized to Narc.
>>736341934What people miss isn't mechanics or aesthetics, it's a period of Internet culture that doesn't exist anymore. A time when interacting with so many people over the Internet at the same time was an exciting new frontier, and the average Internet user was of much higher quality. Talking with other players was the game, that's why old MMOs like EverQuest could get away with the entire leveling process being "group up and stand around in a circle waiting for mobs to spawn"
>>736343409Most of the new big genres are all "singleplayer MMO."It seems like people basically want to play MMOs now more than ever, it's just that the state of the genre has never been more shit.
>>736343552Except all of them have actual gameplay that isn't just spamming the same 4 active skills.
>>736343596Well, yes, as I have said the state of modern MMOs is abysmal. The current mood of the market seems to be for MMO-style games, but the current state of the modern MMO genre is such a trash heap that it cannot capitalize on it. It is a genre geared towards scamming a dwindling playerbase of addicts and whales, most of whom don't even like MMOs or RPGs on a conceptual level.
>>736342787Goddamn that hit me, oof, I'm fucking old.
>>736342593I wish I could get hopelessly addicted to another game like I was when I was an XI addict.No other fantasy world made me want to forget about the real one and just live there like Vana'Diel did.
>>736332508Reminds me of that other MMO scam from a couple years ago something chronicles of elyria now that was a real shit show
>>736332643There aren't any real MMOs that currently exist that I have much interest in playing. At least, no living MMOs that are both actively being developed and have an active playerbase.And the funny thing is that I don't care about all these stupid gimmicks that the typical "WoWkiller" MMO flaunts around. All I really want is an MMORPG that plays kind of like an online D&D with none of the shit that has ruined modern MMOs (fast travel, flying, transmog, LFG teleports, sharding/layering/phasing, dailies/weeklies, singleplayer cutscene chosen one bullshit, le classless progression meme, le action combat meme, rotations bullshit, etc etc) and is mostly about running dungeons with your bros and interacting in the overworld through shit like professions.
>>736342257he was a big shill before any of his fuckups
>>736343836All MMOs are a scam>>736343728Better timesAt least I'll be able to enjoy all the videogames from those times with reverse engineered native PC ports soon.
Ashes of Donations
>>736335518No, there actually was a board. Intrepid was basically owned by a holding company of the investors Steven was scamming.
>>736343546Mmos are a special breed of game because they have so many different systems in them, so they appeal to an extremely broad audience>number go up>theorycrafting>comfy co-op>raids>loot whores>completionists>PvP>roleplayers>idlers>crafters>streamers>chattersList goes on, but I think Josh dry face was dead wrong that talking to people on the internet isn't interesting anymore, especially in the smartphone era where people are clinically addicted to chatting on discord
>>736332508> grabbed the money and ran away.not exactly. the main CEO guy was spending money too frivolously but most of it was going to pay for game development. He lost millions himself making the game and had a nervous breakdown or something. it was hardly a scam.>Didn't they just release?early access, which itself was a cash grab / hail mary to see if they could get enough people interested to keep funding going.The game design wasnt well thought out and they needed like another 6 months to iron things out. Dev was making the idea of a game he thought was cool but was making the age old mistake of haivng PvP and PvE people be on the same server and tried having all these complicated rules for PvP that pissed off both PvE and PvP players. The game got a lot of bad press on EA release instead of blowing up in popularity like devs were hoping. Players were hoping the devs would iron things out eventually but it was too late the EA launch itself was the last gasp.
>>736345141>they needed like another 6 months to iron things out. when i say this i dont mean to finish the game i mean to come up with an actual working game design that can satisfy pvp and pve players, because their system was totally fucked up.
