Why hasn't it been equalled?
doesn't it have major issues with faction balance and spell rng and combat being fiddly and combat order w/r/t mass haste/slow
>>736340298>faction balanceIt's mostly a pve game. From what I've seen of competitive play they often balance factions via randomly selecting 2 then having the players bid for the one they'd prefer to play using their starting gold. So if it's Castle vs Inferno and both players prefer Castle one says "I'll give you 1000 gold to start Castle" and the other says "I'll give 3000 gold" the other says "I'll give 4000 gold" and the other says, okay, 4000 gold. They balance it that way to an extent, but again, it's mostly a PVE game and all the factions are fun to play for different reasons. >spell rng There are resists, ya >combat fiddly combat order I don't think that's an issue.
People just pretend to like it to seem worldly, it has artificial popularity
>>736340298It absolutely has faction balance issues, what are you talking about. In casual PvP games you eat dirt if you pick say fortress or inferno. But in PvE it doesnt really matter and in competetive PvP the starting castle does not matter that much, you mostly gather your army through neutral dwellings in the map.
>>736341518Great map! >>736341794In casual pvp most people won't be equally skilled so if you're decent at the game you can pick those factions, otherwise there are a lot of good ones to choose from.
>>736340000Fuck off faggot. It has been by 4 and 5. Even 6 to some degree and olden era will soon follow.
>>736341518>it has artificial popularityThat's so blatantly wrong I can't even bother to insult you properly for writing that. Suffice to say that I played Heroes III co-op with my older sister when we were well into our university years, while her only other gaming experience consist of The Sims 1&2, King's Quest VI and Age of Empires 2 (where she only played custom maps without opponents so she could build a comfy village and pick berries).
>>7363422374 is awful, completely hideous game. 5 is pretty good from what I remember but has aged significantly worse than 3. 6 I've never played.
>>736342237>>736342326compare this beautiful homm3 with pic related ugliness
I never understood the "gameplay" of these games.You're just hard gated at every turn and have to do things in a specific sequence with little leeway.
>>736342395How do you mean? Every turn you have options in where to explore, what to build, what fights to take, what skills to level up, what to pick up/what to prioritize and what to buy/not buy, how many heroes to build, how you chain them, how you navigate terrain, etc.
>>736342447By hard gated I mean paths of progression through the map are hard gated by some enemy you can't kill until you harvest most of the resources in your available area. Then just that over and over.
>>736342757Not really the case generally
>>736342345>>736342393Thats why you are subhuman retards. You compare strategy games based on looks instead of gameplay. I wont deny that 3 is the prettiest of them all but it has zero depth compared to the sequels and lots of balance issues.
>>736342393I will also add the fact that 4 looks much better in movement while 3 has mostly static map.
>>736342990The gameplay in 3 is great too though. Being a timelessly beautiful work of art that looks and sounds incredible and is enjoyable to experience is definitely the main selling point, but it wouldn't be a fun/addictive game if there wasn't lots of gameplay elements that make it good And I think homm3/homm3 mods are the most played competitively among the entire franchise
>ai necro players and covers of fucking darknessYou should be able to disable this fucking building reeee
>>736340000I liked Age of Wonders 1 more.
>>736343098Compared to what? Throwing rocks outside home irl? You havent played any games in the series besides it. If you did you would know how lackluster it is. I sunk thousands of hours into the series 3 included of course. The game is boring, shallow and repetitive. It plays the same every single time. Gimping yourself to play differently doesnt count. The fact that many people play it doesnt mean shit when their taste is trash and iq too low to play any other entry in the series. Is fortnite or roblox the greatest game of all time? Heroes 3 players be yapping like they know anything but havent played anything actually
>>736343169got rid of it
>>736343587I've played 2, 3, 4, and 5. I like them all except 4 but 3 is the one I really like to play. >does popular = good When it comes to games which are 20+ years old it tends to, yes, and the game in the franchise which maintains the largest competitive following tends to the the best. Some of the best games ever made like >warcraft 3 >brood war>aoe 2 >super smash brothers melee Are all over 20 years old with dedicated competitive followings to this day, because of their quality. If 4 and 5 were much better games than 3, they would probably be the ones played at a competitive level among homm players, but i don't think they are
If 4 is so god-tier, why is nobody playing or talking about it?(besides constantly seething and whining ofc)
>>736341518more of these map edits lmao
>>736343647Deluded. Heroes 3 has a huge following because its so fucking easy to get into and play and is pleasing to the eye. That is all. Im a slav we all played this game to death. Even my mother that doesnt play video games at one point was playing it. Doesnt mean its a good strategy game. Nobody that plays 3 competetively has any skill that could be useful in other entries. Maybe besides 1 stacks and chaining. Other heroes games are still played but the fanbase is smaller simply due to the fact that the games dont look like 3. You have even examples in this thread and countless other in previous ones or the ones that will be made in the future. Morons shitting on games they havent played simply because they dont look visualy appealing to them. Or they played 4 for 5 minutes and shat themselves because it was different than 3.>I've played 2, 3, 4, and 5. I like them all except 4Funny because 4 has the most depth out of all of them. Once again proving me that heroes 3 players are people that dont play strategy games.
killed this bitch on my turf earlier and was able to buy with boots of speed from tavern... shame about eagle eye though. I wish I could see all the skills AI heroes build into because it'd probably be pretty funny
>>736344154I don't know if you're right or wrong, but how the game looks and feels matters and 4 is just too ugly for me to want to play. Among old games, the ones that are still popular, like all the ones I listed, are still very good to look at, even 20 years later. AOE2 is a good example, has a similar art quality to homm3 and still looks better than games made currently.
>>736343739I play it (also 5 and even 3) with friends. Mostly pvp but not always. Always looking for new people to play with.>>736344154I will also add that you can see numbers of people playing 3 because it has a lobby. You cant measure playerbase of 4 and 5 simply because its more fragmented.
>>736340298No one but cum guzzling esports faggots whose entire worth is defined by their multiplayer rank in a children's hobby cares about balance in video games.
>>736344215Its fine. It just boils my blood when people praise this game so much even tho there are better ones in the series but they havent played them and talk shit. Visuals are subjective they cant be judged the same way gameplay can. And 4 looks like a fairy tale. I mean yeah some units are butt ugly but the overworld is beautiful. I dont get the hate for 5 either. It looks old but not dated. Motherfuckers dont know what dated means.>>736344379Your opinion doesnt matter you shitter. I bet you laugh at game journalists in other threads but as soon as someone with knowledge shits on your game you start seething. Also balance should matter since this game was build around playing with others.>children's hobbyyeah nevermind you are a retard. here is your (you)
>>736344472Nah he's right, 3 is still the GOAT for a reason. You can seethe all you want about strategy but no one cares. Games are meant to be fun first and foremost and 3 has always been the most fun.
>>736344472>visuals are subjective Not really, and if you want to stress that, then EVERYTHING is subjective and why say anything about anything ever? To pretty much everyone 3 looks very good and 4 looks very bad. You like what 4 looks like, but I see this and I'm turned off fundamentally. To me, 2 looks like a fairytale and is also very beautiful >5 5 looks... fine, but in terms of creature design it's not as good as 3 or even 2. Your passion for 4 is interesting to me though, maybe I'll try it sometime, but I do generally just play vs ai as i don't know people to play the game with and according to this video I'm watching the AI in 4 isn't really worth playing
>>736342757By properly using magic, kiting and stack splitting to soak up retaliations you can clear way, way harder creature dwellings than you normally would be able to if you played like a newbie and just ran the armies into each other. If you're one of the people who just played HoMM3 as a kid then watching a really good player play out fights feel like cheating because they constantly pull off bullshit stuff like dragons with a handful of troglodytes and then use the rewards from killing dragons to snowball their powerstack.
>>736344712Nice thing about the game, can be played and enjoyed by children for the wonder and beauty of it, and also by adults of all skill levels. And one of the best local multiplayer games ever made too
>there's a homm4 schizo nowthis board is such dogshit
>>736344527The fact that some people thing diving in septic tanks is fun doesnt mean its fun in general. The strategy is the most important part of strategy games yes. I know 3 babies dont play strategy games so thats ok. Im used to your retardation. Art can have different styles moron. Do you also want to tell me that cross and circle game is on the same level as chess?>but I see this and I'm turned off fundamentally.Have you tried playing the game instead of looking at static pictures? The game works. Besides it doesnt matter im not arguing about the visuals. Im talking about the gameplay and the fact that this game is judged solely on how it looks. One of all the other elements.>5 looks... fine, but in terms of creature design it's not as good as 3 or even 2.To each their own. Pit fiends in 5 actually represent their status. Meanwhile in 3 they look laughable. The problem is 4 is an unfinished mess when it comes to ai so learning the game vs it is pointless unless playing on custom made maps that are just hard. Its just too dumb otherwise.>>736345050Im here to combat the schizo that is calling OE a tranny game and all the brainlets calling homm 3 the second coming of christ. Also call me the "unpopular heroes games schizo" since i dont praise just 4.
>>736341518the crazy part is the castle on the left side is a fan mod.
>>736344892>And one of the best local multiplayer games ever made tooLmao. When bulwark came out i played one scenario then got bored.>>736345176Its terrible. By design and lore. Vori got butchered. Cant belive we went from cove to factory and this piece of garbage.
HoMM 4 is fun fun but it is kinda ugly. It still has some of that charm, atleast in the overworld and music, but other than that it's worse than HoMM 3.
>>736345163pit fiends are one unit, and they look fine in 3. The vast majority of units look much cooler in 3 than 5, pic related You can like 4, maybe it is good, but I don't understand why you hate 3 so much
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>>736345863>Fantasy game
>>736345545I dont hate the game. Ive been playing it since it came out and once upon a time i was a fanboy defending it as well. That was before i played in depth all titles that came after. I hate 3 dick riders. It isnt the best in the series. Thats all. All the critique towards 4 and 5 is they are ugly(subjective) or they arent 3. Its as fucking dumb as saying chicken sucks because it isnt pork or vice versa.
>>7363458953 babies made sure of that. just another reason to hate them>>736346613
>>736346613If chicken smelled really really bad, like a rotting corpse, it wouldn't matter if it tasted slightly better than pork. That's the actual analogy
my only real complaint is that the enemy AI spawns a metric ton of heroes that run around and hide and are just being annoying pieces of shit late game on big maps, and that late game devolves into town portalling and DD all over the placebut that's more of a map size issue, dunno how HoTArds play on gigantic maps. Even XL gets tedious and boring fastotherwise it's our modern day chess, if you're not a brainlet
>>736346741Do you have a single fact to back that up or are you just another retard? Can you show me a single review that shows how trash 4 is? How unplayable or dogshit it is? Doesnt have to be by a "professional" just somebody that actually played the game.
>>736340000>perfect colorful graphics>perfect amount of different races>PERFECT sound effects>P E R F E C T ost
>>736347012I'm saying it's so ugly it's genuinely offputting in substantial way that's important, not that it has bad gameplay.
>>736346831Chaining is the answer to that. You dont allow ai any breathing space. Chaining is also why this game isnt chess. Its like a really convoluted mazing game.>>736347049>different raceslol. lmao. they all play the same almost exactly the same. you have 4 unit archetypes.>>736347054>cant enjoy a good piece of vidya because one element is "bad". its also the least important element of a strategy game. i could understand if it had visual clutter that made it so you are unable to tell what is part of terrain and what can be interacted with but it isnt the case.
