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Dragon's dogma 2 is actually pretty good and become great with few difficulty mod
I believe that the people who hated this game are actually braindead low iq subhuman
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>>736343580
Extremely true but don't forget your posting on a lemming board so here comes the sheep's opinions.
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its worse than the original by every metric other than visuals, which are only barely better
even the music sucks dude like come on lol just play the better version..
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>>736343663
baaaaaaa
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>>736343580
Enemy and quest varieties are really bad.
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>>736343683
>Graphics improved
>The retard artists ensured that there would be nothing to look at with them other than sphinx's tits
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>>736343683
DD1 was one of my favourite game and I'm one of those people who actually prefer the base open world exploration over bbi dungeon but nah dd2 improve on everything vanilla 1 had except few vocation skill but you can also now do your full basic attack while mounting monster
BBI has better polish and content but i always see it has extra content
Don't get me wrong dd2 has shit ton of flaws and it would be so much better if they just added all the previous monster in 2 but still its a very great game and i can easily see it reach cult classic status in next 10yrs
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>>736343683
Exploration in 2 and interactions with pawns far better and the characters are an improvement too. Character creator in 2 is far better unless you are a pedo.
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>ape that goes "ook ook" and jumps up and down over the combat so hard he conveniently ignores everything else in the game since it's all ass claims his shit opinion is fact
OP is a faggot as usual
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>>736343580
post the mod list if you're so great
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>>736343683
It's possible for a game to be worse than Dragqueen's Smegma??? How does crapcom do it?????
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>>736344219
https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma2/mods/1254
https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma2/mods/1171
https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma2/mods/948
https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma2/mods/817
https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma2/mods/883
https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma2/mods/1196
https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma2/mods/1147
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>>736343683
You can't even list those metrics without being vague or overly praising BBI, I bet you consider Succubus a unique variant for enemy variety too but lump all the completely different goblins together in 2.
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>>736343580
>Dragon's dogma 2 is actually pretty good
>and become great with few difficulty mod
That's the problem right here. The game's balancing is so shit you have to mod it. At least in the first game, by the time you outleveled the main game you then had Everfall and BBI to dive into.
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>DLC trailer has reached 14 million views in 24 hours.
I'M SO FUCKING BRICKED UP, BEEN WATCHING IT ON LOOP FOR 9 HOURS.

WERE GOING HOME BROS, DD2 IS SAVED
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>>736344809
Normal mode in dd1 was also piss easy
It was miracle that dark arisen even existed
Modern capcom don't even care to patch dd2
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>>736344507
If I reinstall and download all this will this make the game actually good? Am I still going to feel empty and bored just like with the base game?
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>>736343580
Funny how it took two years for /v/ drones to realize it is a good game. I really dont know why I dont just create a youtube channel or at least have my own website. My opinions are always right and Im always vindicated when the sheeple are proven wrong eventually. I fucking hate being unheard when I clearly have elite tastes.
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No loli, no buy
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>>736345174
https://youtu.be/qcvNsB34fjI?si=hjsfXHil80Dak0LE
These mod especially beastiary rework the whole enemy behaviour and make them more agressive plus you get some cool new varients that doesn't feels out of place
modlist also has some vocation related mod that rebalance the combat for example you can do double jump as a thief without wasting a skill slot
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>>736345291
Just make a dwarf, no tits, high pitch female retard
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>>736344809
>At least in the first game, by the time you outleveled the main game you then had Everfall and BBI to dive into.
Which were both way too weak at that point as well, aside from bullshit that would always be hard like Eliminatorville.
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>>736343580
Nah, it actually kind of sucks ass. They took everything from DDDA and made.it worse. The only reason the game is playable at all is because that's just how good DDDA was.

On that note, where's the pastebin with actual Augment effects and shit? Surely /ddg/ made one.
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DD2 was always good
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>>736345679
I have no basis for comparison as I've only played it modded, but I'm still enjoying it a lot, the modded bosses are certainly the highlight of the experience though, not sure I'd be enjoying it as much without them, each one has been a treat and my encounters with them are the most salient thing about my experience with the game.

Just had a modded dragon show up, and it was chaincasting spells like crazy, made getting my own spells off a challenge, after a 15 minute fight it jumped into a river and died before I could finish it off, denying me its loot which elicited a chuckle because despite it clearly not being intended behavior it seemed just the kind of petty shit a dragon on the verge of death would do.

I have my issues with the game, a lot of little changes from DD1 that I don't care for, but overall I think its an improvement over the first game. I think the big issue I have with it is its like Dragon's Dogma except bigger, but with roughly the same amount of stuff as the first game just spread out 10x as wide. That's probably my biggest gripe, it feel thin in a way the first game didn't and it'd probably feel a lot thinner without these modded bosses.
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>no expansion announcements during the Xbox presentation
Blastbros... the expansion IS coming, right?
Surely Capcom wouldn't leave us out to dry after leading us on with those less than subtle hints? R-right?
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>bad exploration
>unrewarding combat
>ps3 level graphics

nah
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Planning on playing DDDA. What class should I play? I like swords and magic but I heard the mage class sucks.
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>>736346262
Every single class in DDDA is fun as fuck. I assume you'll like Magick Archer.
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>>736343683
2 literally improves over the original on almost every aspect, the fuck are you smoking?
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>>736346262
You will want to play Mystic Knight ofcourse, the only cool class in 1.
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Whats a good modpack for a second playthough?
I havent touched this game since it came out 2 years ago
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>>736346410
I liked 2 but
>no layered armor
>4 abilities instead of 6 is better on some classes but worse on others, especially mages
>worse story that feels more incomplete
>worse music
>no memorable meme-worthy characters
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>>736346410
>worse UI and menuing
>worse story
>"itsuno, PLEASE give warrior eight skill slots." "'take four skill slots AWAY from every weapon?' Ok!"
>no lolis
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>>736346410
You can do your full combo while mounting a monster u
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>>736346449
Most of that is subjective, and to be fair to Mage classes got way better base attacks and mechanics as compensation.
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>>736346336
Magick archer was beyond broken in 2 along with magic class and don't remember me how bad warrior was in 1
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>>736346525
Kek, no they didn't. Not that it matters much, because at least Sorc is still strong as fuck, but losing the focused bolts and a lot of the other spells really hurt mage.
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>>736346410
2 has much less content, an even worse story, 4 skill slots, and a worse UI.

I like 2, but it's not better than 1 by a long shot.
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>>736346638
I don't even know if you can say that 2 has less content per se, but it just doesn't feel rewarding to go do. Travel gets too boring too fast for how gargantuan the map is and I just never enjoyed exploring it as much as the defined engames of Everfall/BBI.
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>>736346603
>losing the focused bolts
That was a terrible mechanic that is zero fun to use and the only way to even hurt a bunch of enemies because of how terribly balanced the first game was.
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>>736346525
just not being completely buttfucked by golems is already a great improvement on mages
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>>736346754
Nah.
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>>736346638
1 without dark arisen is really ass. But that's if dd2 ever gets a dlc
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As someone who played DD1 on PSX, I'd still rather play that than 2, but holy fuck was it a rough ride kek.
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Gear progression overhaul makes everything way too expensive. Can't afford to buy or upgrade shit.
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>>736343580
If any game requires mods just to be enjoyable, then it's a shitty game at its core.
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>>736346867
>As someone who played DD1 on PSX
???
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>>736346867
>PSX
3*, obv.

>>736346882
My b. I'm watching TV.
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>>736346891
>he watches TV
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>>736346810
2 is basically a remake of 1 without Dark Arisen
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>>736346934
Not even close lmao.
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>>736343580
sounds like the same cope as crimson desertfags
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>>736347359
They're actually updating CD though.
Game still sucks ass, of course.
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>>736347418
How long did Capcom support this game? Like 4 months? Its crazy how quickly they abandoned it.
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>>736347498
everything got diverted to MH wilds naturally.
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>>736347498
I don't even remember. It got a pretty big patch relatively recently out of nowhere I think, but yeah they stopped the regular patching after a couple months.

>>736347538
MH Stories and RE9*. They abandoned Wilds, too.
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You should b8 about games people care about.
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I like Dragon's Dogma 2, I like how boring it is, its a great game to play while listening to an audiobook. You grab a quest, spend 4 hours adventuring, camping under the stars, fighting goblins and suarians, and eventually making it to your destination. Its comfy and I wouldn't change it.
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>>736347749
I could agree with this if they hadn't gutted every vocation and made making a hot character impossible.
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>>736343580
The game is made for those braindead people you mentioned and you proved it yourself by coping with le mods. It's painfully funny to me that one of the easiest games ever released got an EASY MODE added after release instead of hard mode like we had in DD1.
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>>736347858
Zoomers are so bad at games their biggest complaint about Dragon's Dogma II was that it was too hard. Of all the game's issues, being too unforgiving is what zoomers thought of it.
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>>736347858
It's actually so fucking awful.
>everyone hates the permanent HP loss because it's achronistic and illogical
>otherwise, even still, the game is too easy
>'oh you don't like the HP drain? We'll remove in a compulsory easy mode so you still don't get what you want'
It's like the same fucking monkey's paw as taking away skill slots from every weapon onstead of just giving warrior more.
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>>736347560
>It got a pretty big patch relatively recently out of nowhere I think
?
Last update(s) it got was a year ago and it was just minor bug fixes.
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>>736348043
Wasn't the Easy Mode + Equip From Storage shit added in like September? That's not recent anymore to be fair but I hadn't touched the game in way longer than that.
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Are there atmospheric places like this in DD2?
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>>736348116
That was september of 2024, anon...
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>post some shitty artwork on the 2nd anniversary acknowledging it's existence
>make a controller collab of all things
I legitimately want to know what goes on in capcoms heads.
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>>736343580
>with mods
Doesnt and never will count.
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Test>>736347997
>everyone hates the permanent HP loss
Only casual idiots do. It's one of the things that makes the gameplay much better than 1.
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>>736345074
Dark Arisen came out 11 months after initial release
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>>736346262
You can play every vocation on the same character. No need to deliberate.
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>>736343580
Why would i ever waste time trying to unfuck this game when i can just play the original? It even has more monsters
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>>736348554
Absolutely not. It's achronistic bullshit and one of the things that makes it worse than DDDA.
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ok you bloody blastards if I'm not having fun within the next 3 hours I will be very upset
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>>736348554
I think its a good pressure to have, I like how it gives you a reason to eventually rest and refresh your pawns. That said I've been using these same pawns for days now and rarely do I find myself needing to rest outside of settlements so the camping and camp sites have been mostly useless to me.
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>>736343580
Needs triple the amount of unique enemies.
Also, Strider > Thief. Give me back my bow, damnit.
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>>736343683
Oh no it's retarded
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>>736348678
Why are casual idiots like this? Being punished for taking damage is good, and not being able to menu pause heal to infinity is extra better, same with Pawns not being able to infinitely heal at Riftstones.
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>>736348729
Just play warfarer
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>finished DD1 a bunch of times
>never played through the DLC content because by the time i get to postgame i feel like im already done with the game and ready to move on

Is the Dark Arisen stuff really that good? I always assumed it was just one extra dungeon and a few new weapoons.
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>>736348760
What does menu healing have to do with HP loss persisting backwards through savegames?
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>>736348762
No, it's not the same. Wayfarer is too limited.
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>>736348765
Bruh...
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>>736348765
Just play it. It's the final challenge for your characters. A lot of fun.
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>>736343580
I hated it because it has denuvo and features faggot porn stars like sphere hunter. Capcom is ran by faggots now fuck them.
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>>736343580
You are a subhuman mongoloid
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>>736348843
>and features faggot porn stars like sphere hunter
Wat
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>>736348804
You're a special kind of stupid.
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>>736348696
You probably will in the next 3 hours, but in the next 2 after that its all gone and you have already played the entire game
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>>736348873
A bunch of streamers and youtubers got 'official' pawns in the game as a form of marketing.
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Should i replay DD2 now or wait for the DLC?
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>>736348765
Dark Arisen was never DLC. It first came out as part of the full game re-release.
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>>736348897
>die
>reload
>hp still reduced even though everything else is reverted
>'wow that's dumb'
>you: "WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU WANT TO HEAL THROUGH MENUS YOURE FUCKING DUMB"
I honestly don't even know how to engage with you. Kill youself.
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>>736348917
There's no dlc coming little bro
Ryozo hate dragon's dogma
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>>736348975
Based casual getting filtered like the idiot he is. I love to see it.
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>>736343580
We don't a DD thread every single day
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>>736349597
>We don't a DD
SAAR
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>>736349548
Beat the game, anon. Just don't like pointless senseless achronistic mechancs.
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>>736349751
Because you're shit at video games.
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Itsuno the COWARD should have just given the Wayfarer 3 skill slots for each weapon with the fourth always being weapon swap.
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>>736343683
>fashion ruined by removal of layers
>cloaks float above your character and still clip horribly anyway
>all vocations only have 4 skills instead of 8/6
>vocations can only wield 1 weapon
>except Fighter who has a sword and shield, but still only has 4 skill slots
>main story somehow worse than DD1
>tiny enemy variety
>enormous encounter density
>pathetic encounter enemy count
>no dynamic pawn inclinations
>static pawn inclinations tied to voices
>less impressive post-game
>Dragon heavily underused to the point of being a minor character
>the Sphinx's "riddles"
>Raghnall
>screenshot mode camera always centered on the Arisen
This game was a fucking scam. Some stuff was better and the camping was nice and the core of the combat was good solid, but holy fuck there was so many downgrades. The potential shining from underneath only makes it worse.
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>>736349817
Can't have fun in video games.
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>>736349849
To be fair the Dragon isn't used that much in the first game either. You see him at the beginning and at the end. His scenes and dialogue are a lot better and more memorable in the original though.
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Post Pawn IDs
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Continuing my DDDA playthrough. No more questions, I’m just taking it as it comes.

Explored more of bitterblack, got slimed by some scary lookin goblin variants and a hellhound I never saw in the main game. Very spooky. Didn’t know there was a romance system, kek. I Killed the dragon which informed me that apparently my tru love is that blonde French guy i revived. It’s pretty funny that my Arisen’s been drowning in goth pawn pussy for the entire game but he’s apparently canonically gay.

Just got to the everfall which was a very cool moment, no idea to expect from here out.
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goddamn I can't see shit
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Starting this game for the first time
Tips?
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>>736343580
esl
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>>736346410
Truth. The core combat in DD1 really sucks after playing 2. I couldn't even make it to Gran Soren without immediately being bored and dropping it when I replayed it. Normals suck and stop being relevant not even 5 hours (especially on HM *excluding Holy Focus Bolt*). Grabs suck and also stops being relevant not even 1 hour in (ESPECIALLY on HM). Throwbombs are hilariously OP and you can just buy infinite amounts (guess it's OP to facilitate how bad the mechanic is). Clinging is way worse (jank camera, tank controls(why), can't stand, can't push/pull, Assassin gets TWO cling-based abilities and Fighter doesn't even get one(?). Having a vertical jump was such a stupid idea, no ragdolls so enemies aren't affected by the environment that isn't fall damage, etc. Way, WAY too much overlap and homogenization with the classes, issues with the classes in general. Fighter is just Mystic/Assassin but bad. Ranger is just Strider/Magick but bad. Warrior is literally gimped trash. Mage and Sorc being similar is fine but did then really need to give them both the worst, most worthless heavy attack in the entire game lmao. Sadly, both classes just end up spamming Holy Focus Bolt anyway (why does this single attack have a better damage modifier than 90% of skills). Consumable Spam for stamina was extremely stupid, it completely devoids the point of attacking enemies using your regular kit with melee, even worst for HP since there's no loss gauge and items being able to fully replenish your HP making healing spells pointless. There's way too much emphasis on skill spam in general, its like playing a single-player MMO at times. Worst is that lots of the skills are straight up trash you ignore because there's a superior option right next to it or genuinely bugged and doesn't work correctly, so you always just cycle in a couple of relevant skills that are actually fun to use like Ricochet Seeker or Sheltered Spike and ignore everything else.

Nostalgia is a mental illness
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>>736350090
Enjoy it anon
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>>736343683
They hated him because he spoke the truth.

The soundtrack in DD1 is so fucking good
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>>736350090
Oh I actually did have 1 question. Killing the dragon dragonfoged all my gear, including my bastard sword, but immediately after winning I got dragons dogma and dragons aegis, which have better stats. Is there a reason to keep the dragonforged weapon on or is big number most important?
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>>736350337
Not reading all this. Also, you're a fag.
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>>736350347
Thanks man
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>>736350406
>Is there a reason to keep the dragonforged weapon on or is big number most important?
Yes and no. Some weapons have unique properties that make them interesting to use, if not BiS. You can also use it to fashionmaxx and modulate hiwever hard you want the game to be.
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>>736349817
At that point why use anything else though?
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>>736350431
I'm not gay, I just not fond of dated and boring games that people liked because they played it in their past.
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If it needs mods to be good, it's not a good game, the mods are good.
Same shit as beth games. Morrowind is good. Janky, but good. Oblivion is bad. Everything after oblivion is irredeemable garbage laden with crashes and horrible bugs.
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>>736350216
DD1 or 2
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>>736343841
>>736344670
>>736346410
No true DD (vanilla) fan is going to defend DD2, which was included in the Cambridge-Nipponese dictionary under the following terms
>waste of potential
>unfocused direction
>blatantly unfinished
>utterly unambitious
>shortstaffed and underbudgeted
>rushed
>wrong priorities
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>>736350676
DD1 sucks ass compared to good.
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>>736345346
>cool new varients that doesn't feels out of place
the frost ogre and fire clyclopes are uniquely cringe though
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>>736343683
>be me
>big dd1 fan
>eagerly await dd2
>it has denuvo
>go on /v/
>people having "blast"
>shell out $70
>play 3 hours before realizing its dumbed down DEI moviegame dogshit
>uninstall forever
>no refund

this is when I learned that denuvo suppresses word of mouth
and i will never
ever
buy
a
denuvo
game
again
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>>736350586
2
played 1
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>>736350507
Can't use Master skills
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>>736350507
just give it some nerfs. It already can't use meister skills
Alternatively, you can keep the four skill slots in total, but you should be able to switch seamlessly between weapons whenever you use their associated skill
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>>736350406
Go and dragonforge your new weapons now
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>>736343580
>Dragon's dogma 2 is actually pretty good
Not really; not for more than and hour or so; not unless one plays the developer version; and certainly not if one has already played DDDA and/or DDO.

>and become great with few difficulty mod
You're confusing it with RER4.

>proof > pudding > tasting
They would not have sacked the game's director if its sales had been "pretty good" to "great".
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I don't want to get the bad ending for the achievement ;_;
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>>736351298
DD1 is worse than 2 and DDO is literal MMO garbage.
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>>736351362
Based and Robust.
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>>736350090
> It’s pretty funny that my Arisen’s been drowning in goth pawn pussy for the entire game but he’s apparently canonically gay.
I was heavily considering romancing Julien but in the end I went for Aelinore since it's the whole medieval princess gets saved by a warrior trope
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>>736350337
>I couldn't even make it to Gran Soren without immediately being bored and dropping it when I replayed it
Strange, I immediately replayed it after 2 and it was so much better.
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>>736351298
why did you come into this thread if all you were going to do was take a fat shit on the floor?
Click past shit you don't like next time. Don't litter.
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>>736350748
>>play 3 hours before realizing its dumbed down DEI moviegame dogshit
if DD1 came out today with Mercedes and Mason you and your ilk burst open in anger just like what happened to KCD2
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>>736351395
...And the shit-posters posted shit again on the third day, in accordance to the scriptures.
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>>736350014
Just started NG over for the first time since release with mods. Maybe someone in here shares my taste.
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>>736351460
>Nostalgia is a mental illness
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>>736343841
>dd2 improve on everything vanilla 1 had except few vocation skill
No, no it didnt, kill yourself.
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>>736351640
What Light and Heavy attacks in DD1 are useful, let alone good?
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Dragon's Dogma 2 is a lot like Death Stranding in the sense that its clear the devs wanted a game with lots of weird and uninviting mechanics but playtesters are fucking retarded so the game essentially had to be strangled in its crib and a lot of its ideas are either undercooked or pointless.

The fact that Capcom thought the problem with DD2 is that it lacked an Easy mode says so much about this game's development. It's a weird passion project that's somewhere the money people stepped in and said "wtf you can't make a game like this" and completely neutered it. Sadly I expect the DLC will just make the game even more braindead, not less.
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>>736348762
Just have no skills bro. Worst executed idea in history
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>>736346638
>, 4 skill slots
4 skills slots that are all useful and relevant with an additional ability to make classes unique, which you can swap out from camps at anytime.
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>>736351718
>the DLC will introduce an even easier mode
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>>736351897
but why not 8?
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>>736346810
unfinished piece of shit game 1 being bad without DLC doesn't make it okay for them to release unfinished piece of shit game 2 in the same state.
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>>736352026
Controllers don't have 8 face buttons and that sounds like it would lead to the shitty skill spam of 1.
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>>736351539
I'll grab them when I'm back in town.
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Sissy dogma 2 fags are sub pawn
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>>736352098
>Controllers don't have 8 face buttons
That's really weird. How come DD1 can have 6 skill slots with the same amount of buttons? Really grind my gears.
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They gutted teh RPG elements, no more attributes when leveling up cant min max...useless trash
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>>736343580
Oh the ironing.
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>>736352256
DD1 has three skills on a primary and secondary weapon (which you don't even use since most skills are either bad or bugged, you spam the few good ones and ignore everything else, it also homogenizing classes since there's nothing truly unique outside of Warrior). You don't get six slots unless you play Mage and Sorc (and you won't even use those because Holy Focus Bolt outdamages most of them).
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>>736352473
MK has a really good skill kit
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>>736350954
Pawn ID? I haven't hired a beastren yet.
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>>736352473
Nah you're a faggot too. Not everyone plays games like you.
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>>736352595
MK has Great Cannon into Holy spam, and knocking things over with Stone Ocean, and that's about it. It's just Fighter but not shit anyway.
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>>736350096
Mayhap its time to turn on your lantern Arisen.
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>>736343580
>Dragon's dogma 2 is actually pretty good and become great with few difficulty mod
Let it go, anon. There's a new hotness in town.
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>>736352682
You're just a retard who's shit at video games.
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>>736343580
>game is good
>you need a mod
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>>736352812
all Bethesda games in a nutshell
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>>736352712
I remember the first time I did that in DA, made me laugh.



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