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I don’t get it, if he is so strong. Why do he loses so often ?
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Because it's a fucking you dumb cunt
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>>736346435
truth nuke
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>>736346435
bloody
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>It provides the three effects of resurrection, attack-nullification, and the ability of "immunity against an attack he has experienced previously."
>God Hand has the ability to make Berserker's body immune against an attack after it has been damaged once by the said attack.
>Nasu: You don't have to die. For example... if you were to take fire damage, once you recover you would gain +100 resistance to fire.


>P-P-P-PROTAGONIST-SAMA'S SWORD??? NOOOO GET AWAY FROM ME, GET AWAY FROM ME I JUST *CANNOT* TANK AN ATTACK OF THIS MAGNITUDE!!! AAAAAAHHHH I'M SORRY I TRIED TO ATTACK YOU JUST PLEASE, PLEASE DONT HIT ME WITH YOUR SWORDDDDAAIIIIIEEEEEEE AIIIIIIEEEE IT HUUUUURTS!!! I AM BREAKING DOWN ON A QUANTUM LEVEL AIIIIEEE HOLY SHIT I DIED AGAIN! AND AGAIN! ILLYA-DONO I DON'T FEEL SO GOOD..... WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TRIED TO FIGHT THE PROTAGONIST... I DIED AGAIN. OH GOD IT KEEPS HAPPENING! IT KEEPS HAPPENING!!! IT'S SO PAINFUL.... AIIEEEEE----
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>>736346597
KEKAROOOOOO !!!!!! :-)
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>>736346435
Based Jeet
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>>736346384
he looks like akuma but akuma isn't a jobber
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>>736346384
Unlike the FGO gameplay, stories aren't simply "rock-paper-scissors" when it comes to fights
It's not simply a numbers game, where character A has 10 power and character 9 power therefore character A wins, they have emotions, motivations, weaknesses, reasons to lose that are plot related
Not that this is highbrow media, but just go watch shounen if you want "who punches harder" powerscale slop
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>>736346384
Because his summoner is a retard that messes with his mind both in FSN and in Strange Fake. He'd tear Gil a new one and settle the HGW in a day if he were summoned properly.
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>>736346384
It took the combined efforts of Saber, Archer, Rin, and Shirou to bring him down, even going as far as to pull out a sword even more famous and powerful than Excalibur AFTER he had already been on the business end of Unlimited Blade Works and getting his face blasted off with jewels Rin had been instilling with power for years, and getting into a duel with Saber at her full power.
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>>736347770
>shounen
Fate has been shounen for years ever since it stopped being a eroge. FateFaggots don't get to use the word slop as if it isn't sitting near the bottom of the totem pole just above fairy tail and naruto
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>>736346384
The characters in the story are surprised by this too.
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>>736346384
Since when did Akuma have forearm blades and a great sword?
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>>736346597
>>736347770
>Pseudo intellectuals really pretend this porn game has outstanding writing

Wait till you actually read a good novel and not just porn games.
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>>736346384
When writers want someone to win against truly impossible odds they usually shit the bed.
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>>736346384
>Why do he loses
GOOD MORNING
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Glad we can all agree that Heaven's Feel sucks and UBW is the best route
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>>736350860
Anon, you forgot to say SAAR.
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>>736346384
His role in the story is to make other characters look strong. If they're able to beat Berserker then they must be good.
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Why did the eizenbergs force heracles into a joke class?
Any other class would have won easily
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>>736346384
Einzberns are retarded. They should just stick to making homunculus wives/gf and selling them.
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>>736346597
if he gains immunity to attacks he's already experienced, why didn't illya have him hit with every attack to make him immortal
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>>736348623
It's a VN, not a shounen
>>736348940
>Not that this is highbrow media
nice reading comprehension
just because it's not intelligent media doesn't mean you can just be retarded while you watch it, after all you chose to watch it, why not pay attention?
your mindset is why women can't even understand action movies "why did he do that? why did he choose that? that made no sense!"
just because it's simple doesn't excuse you from not paying attention to it, people like you would watch spongebob and think since it's beneath your intelligence not pay attention to the plot, and in doing so end up saying "dude that made no sense" when in reality you simply weren't paying attention to the very easy to follow sotry
and when called out on it you just default to the same argument "dude do you really think it's that deep of show? it's for kids lmao."

tard behavior
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What the fuck was his problem?
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>>736347770
I'm sorry, but Fate is the epitome of powerscale slop. Even Tsukihime, which I respect much more than Fate, has shit like "Arcueid has to use 7/10ths of her power to suppress her blood lust" shit going on. Nasu just likes to ignore pre-established rules when it doesn't fit into the moment, or he comes up with stupid shit in an attempt to explain why powerscaling stuff doesn't apply now.
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>>736351379
Lack of a father figure
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>>736351475
Saber only has those stats because Emiya is her master. She gets pumped up when others have her reigns.
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>>736351475
>Fate is the epitome of powerscale slop
Gilgamesh can nuke the entire human world, if he holds back he can just straight up win the HGW in 5 minutes
But he doesn't
How is that powerscale slop when the strongest character doesn't win?
>inb4 Gil isn't the strongest in the VN
The strongest servant doesn't win in the VN based off of powerlevels
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>>736346384
It's called jobbing
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>>736346435
>it's a fucking you
You've had 20 years to learn English
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>>736346384
bro you ever seen a FromSoftware boss that LOOKS unstoppable but got that tragic AI pathing? yeah, that’s him.

dude built like a raid boss but fights like he forgot to equip his brain cell. all that muscle just to swing slow as a Windows 98 loading bar. meanwhile some twink with a stick rolls twice and deletes his health bar like it’s a side quest.

strength without IQ is just decorative furniture, my guy.

he not losing cause he weak… he losing cause he running a tutorial build in a late-game lobby.
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>>736346384
"If raw power was everything, the Holy Grail War would be a scramble to summon Berserker."
Someone said something like that in Strange Fake, I forget who and when. Heroes are all about overcoming insurmountable odds. Being the insurmountable odds just makes you the target.
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>>736350819
This is one of the best examples of a writer going full retard. There was no believable way Sukuna was going to win that. Binding vow asspulls weakened the end.
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>>736351783
my dude… this ain’t a UFC stat sheet, this is Sukuna running on pure demon-time narrative privilege.

you out here asking for “believable” like the man didn’t already violate physics, morality, and several HR policies just by existing

binding vows ain’t an asspull, it’s literally the in-universe cheat code system. bro saw the terms & conditions and clicked “accept all” with malicious intent. meanwhile Gojo Satoru was playing 5D chess but forgot the other guy is allowed to flip the board and stab you with it.

also let’s be real for a second…

strongest sorcerer in history
vs
strongest sorcerer of today

that’s not a fair fight, that’s a marketing slogan

you wanted logic, author said “nah, we doing vibes and trauma.”

end of the day, Sukuna didn’t win because it made sense…
he won because the plot looked at him and said “yeah you built different.”
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>19 FPS
>terrible framepacing
Japanese coding strikes again?
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If you really think about it my daughtewife Abigail is the strongest servant.
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>>736346384
Because his enemies have superior speed.
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>>736346384
These >>736346435 >>736346597
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>>736346384
if america has the strongest military how come they can't win any wars ?
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He's the Vegeta. The guy whose role is to be strong and lose to show the other guy is much stronger.
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>>736351839
Are you unironically posting AI slop in this thread, you absolute TRIPLE NIGGER
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>>736351379
Born into circumstances where he was always going to be a failure to his family.
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>>736346384
the more they hype him up the more likely he'll lose. same as saber "the strongest servant" (lost against a normal ass human kuzuki) or gay bulge (unavoided killing strike, avoided dozens of times)
meanwhile character who's portrayed as weak/untalented will be the one winning. archer (a lot of comments about how weak he is from others, kills berserker ten billion times), and shirou (high schooler boy with the power of plagiarism kills the most legendary hero who ever existed and can destroy worlds, he lost because he is le cocky)
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>>736351117
They just wanted a big beat stick who wouldn't betray them like the previous retarded duo.
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>>736352603
imagine getting this mad over a joke… gojo lost once and now you losing emotional stability too

you ain’t cooking, you just yelling in the kitchen with no ingredients. come back when you got something besides volume turned up.
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>>736346384
It’s his bloodline. Zeus jobs pretty horrendously. His uncle Poseidon even worse, who loses multiple times to a human. Than then there’s their shared originator, Chaos who has the worst loss in the entire series
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>>736352771
In a just world you would be executed for such behavior.
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>>736346384
In nasuverse, all overpowered characters are females. Men are just secondaries and props for nasu to wank his beta-behavior fetishism. The power-scaling system is so fucked that no one gave a shit anymore and just move on. Nasu can't write for shit especially for characters like Hercules and you'll get used to it.
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>>736346435
you bloody dumb bitch
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>>736352865
bro pulled out the “in a just world you’d be executed” line like he the final boss of Reddit Court

you out here roleplaying dictator over anime discourse… go drink some water and log off before you declare martial law in the thread
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>>736351117
anon, heracles is greek. He would murder the entire einzbern for their crimes against humanity in any class but berserker/
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>Ilya commanding Berserker to rape Saber and then cut off her head.
>IIya is still a child but has completely gone insane that she acts like a psychopath
>IIya was just going to watch Saber get raped.
>IIya is only eight years old in FATE/ZERO

The series honestly really fucked up, also I guess it isn't technically rape but Shirou fucking Saber to "unlock mana channels" or whatever was a lame ass excuse. Rin having to facilitate was even more awkward because Shirou and Saber were both too autistic, so Rin basically just had to be like "Ohhh does that feel good, Saber?" It's like having a girl who likes you inadvertently cuck you in a threesome but you're so autistic that you don't see it as a threesome or know it's a threesome.
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>>736353172
She's 18 in Fate Stay Night
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>>736352991
NTA but are you typing stuff into an AI bot and asking it to give you comebacks/replies? Even if those are original comebacks, they're just as cringe as the anon you're arguing with.
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>>736346384
People don't stop and fight him unless they are forced to by circumstances, like Saber and Archer or if they have an ace in the hole against him, like Gilgamesh.
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>>736353243
Ah, I couldn't remember which iteration that took place in. It's still fucked up.
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>>736353172
How could a woman ever cuck a man? You can't cuck anyone without a penis.
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>>736353172
Ilya had a fuckton of memories and knowledge implanted into her between Zero and FSN that substantially warped her artificial personality even further.
She's mentally a lot older than her physical age because of that.
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Why doesn't Caster just kidnap Illya and use Rule Breaker on her? Then without a contract Berserker will disappear.
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>>736347770
>It's not simply a numbers game, where character A has 10 power and character 9 power therefore character A wins, they have emotions, motivations, weaknesses, reasons to lose that are plot related
Good post, but shounen browns quite literally are incapable of understanding this as well as EX on the stat page not meaning a stat is SUPER DUPER BIGGER THAN A+. A big number character not squashing their fight fills them with confusion and rage, unable at a biological level of perceiving how context and situational modifiers matter
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>>736346384
my head canon is that his role is to be a filter, if the other servents cannot beat him in a duel then they aren't ready for whatever plot task is asked of them
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>>736351839
It's getting pretty bad that I not only recognize this as AI posting but even the specific AI used (Claude), kek. I need a break from everything.
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>>736353429
Sherou getting put in a trance was the exception rather than the rule. You can't just kidnap a magi in their sleep, a magi's workshop is supposed to be almost as impregnable as a fortress in a magical sense.
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>>736347770
>>736353469
Reads like LLM.
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>>736353429
Medea's outnumbered 3 to 2 if she invades Illya's castle. I doubt wobblyfist buffed with magic will do jackshit against Herc and not turn Kuzuki into a bloody pulp. Plus she has a pair of support maids to back her up.
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>>736353537
it's ChatGPT
>>736353246
yes and my chatgpt is specifically set to talk like a retard
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>>736353429
How exactly is she supposed to do that with Herc protecting Illya?
Also Illya being the Holy Grail Vessel and an integral component of Heavens Feel kinda makes using Rule Breaker on her a TERRIBLE idea even if she was able to get to her.
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>>736353583
You're correct but among the maids only Leysritt is fight-OK canonically. Sella is basically a C-3PO.
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>>736351637
>my character is so powerful he can beat goku
>*goes on raving that your character can beat goku*
>btw this is not powerscale slop
sigh...
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>>736346384
He was only ever truly defeated by Gilgamesh, who hard countered him and Saber Alter who had infinite mana. And out of all the heroic spirits, Saber is the one who can utilize infinite mana the best thanks to Excalibur being broken.

>>736346597
This was after Archer had already drained all but one of his lives, which cost Archer his life.
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>>736346597
tbf excalibur is pretty fucking special since it's an armament from avalon made to combat extraterrestrial threats against gaia itself using it even only partially unleashed against herc is like dropping a nuke to kill an ant
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>>736353881
That's not Excalibur
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>>736353881
That lore wasn't in the original.

>>736353913
Also yeah, it's not Ekkusukariba, it's Caliburn.
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>How is it possible for a character that was stronger to lose to a character that was weaker?!? The number was bigger! It makes no goddamn sense!
Shepherds from thousands of years ago had better media literacy than the average powerlevelfag today.
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>>736354131
He had the power of god and anime on his side
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>>736354131
he was jewish
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>>736354131
This is no different from Dragon Ball.

Goku had a weak powerlevel and trained to raise it above 9000 to beat Nappa.

David had a weak powerlevel and asked God to increase his powerlevel. God gave him big powerlevel energy and David beat Goliath.
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>>736346384
BASAKA
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>>736346384
To be fair there are several bad endings in Fate/Stay Night, so technically there are plenty of times where the rest of the cast comes out on top and aren't complete jobbers to Shirou.
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>>736351117
einzberns wanted both a strong hero but one who was also controllable to not have the grail lost like last time. Illya was the one who made him insane however because she was forced to summon him early and it caused her constant pain.



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