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why do the powers that be want me to dislike this game?
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why do the powers that be want me to like it? i've spent 10+ hours waiting for it to get good
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>>736359907
it's not made by the chosen people
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>>736359907

che chinese gacha bot fears the Korean Chad AA experience
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>>736359907
Asian studios are not beholden to western morals and woke politics. Journalists fear this because they don't want gamers to feel "emboldened and radicalized" when their hit piece against why the chink game is problematic is met with "Shut up, faggot." by the devs.
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>>736359907
I'll get this game when it's on sale for $25 or less. With plenty of new patches and updates. They botched the release way too hardI'll get this game when it's on sale for $25 or less. With plenty of new patches and updates. They botched the release way too hard.
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>>736359907
Most of em gave it a 7 out of 10 which is fair

and i can't imagine giving it anything more than a 8 because it's not in the leagues of tw3, rdr2, ER
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>>736359907
Same thing happened with Black Myth Wukong, which was a perfectly solid action game that the usual crowd should've eaten up, but journalists were so expressedly against it that one of them even outright lied and intentionally mistranslated an interview to make the devs look like assholes.
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>>736360498
>it's not in the leagues of tw3, rdr2, ER
Name one flaw of CD that isn't present in those three games. Retarded story? Yup, fits the bill for all three. Open world sloppa? Yup, again. Not enough challenge? Right again.
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>>736360572
Don't forget Where Winds Meet. The entire review was just misinformation and outright lying about mechanics. There is definitely some kind of anti asian bias going on with this journos.
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I finally went and bought this shit. It better be good or else I will make sure to become insufferable about it in every single thread that I see even remotely related to this game.
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>>736359907
feels like every game has to have some seething around it nowadays. its not woke, its not antiwoke, its just a game and people are still fighting over it, shit's weird.
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>>736360637
They are a lot more coherent and have much better art direction.
Both RDR2 and TW3 have really good writing. They are also a lot more immersive than CD.
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>>736360637
NTA but the dialog in CD might as well be a placeholder. I've never sat though so many cutscenes that I've wanted to skip. And oh but of course you can't even skip them like so many random dumb choices in this game.
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>>736360669
Whether or end up enjoying it or not I will never understand how you idiots can have endless amounts of gameplay and footage and STILL not know if you'll like a game before purchase.
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>>736360740
Honestly more than anything is the overhyping it suggesting legitimate shilling and some stupid shit that went on right before launch that just wasn't cool to do. It kept getting compared to games it isn't. DF made a mess like always about it as well.
Anyone coming in without taking any of that in account is probably going to find a somewhat decent game. But the asking price is basically taking advantage of a general drought.
Also the woke/antiwoke is such a small little bit of nothing that only served a purpose: for grifters to get donos.
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No one cares about your ai generated game, kimchi-shitter
Stop trying to force discussion about it
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>>736360938
>RDR2
>really good writing
lol
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>>736360987
Same but for RDR2 and ER. Witcher 3 was mostly well written but the main story was nonsense.
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>>736361106
Give me an example of a game with good writing according to your standards.
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>>736360637
CD isn't written like cinematic movie slop, so the retards here, like >>736360938
>>736360987, think it's bad story telling.
People saying LoU's story was good taught me this.
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>>736361054
This game is supposedly too much about the gameplay and it constantly gets critiziced for a lack of practically everything the fuck else. That's not measurable through videos or streams. Through videos I can see there's some combat that seems flexible. That the character can fly and shoot rainbows out of his dick. I can also measure from it blurry backgrounds and textures, artifacts from scaling and weird trails behind objects.
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>>736361201
I dunno, I think almost all games are quite infantile in their writing. But that's okay, because they're games and not books or theatre.
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>>736361284
How about watching footage from a good rig. The game looks absolutely spectacular and I'm tired of consoleshitters complaining about graphics.
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>>736361217
Almost every quest I've done is literally MMO quest text in animated form but I guess if that's good storytelling for you
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>>736361375
>consoleshitters complaining about graphics.
Consolefags have been utterly conditioned to play at 720p 30fps forever. The ones crying about graphics are literal Jeets trying to run it on their call center work computer.
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>>736359907
It's from the rival media faction.
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>>736360637
I think you are confused anon, CD has no story
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>>736361375
Ah I guess I need to find videos of someone with something better than a 5090 and a 9800X3D, my bad
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>>736361106
Yeah it's 100 times more engaging that placeholder mmo shit
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>>736360498
>tw3, rdr2
Niggershit walkie talkie "games" for normgroid animals desu. Definitely not in ER league.
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>>736361503
Is that better or worse than a shitty story?
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>>736361217
>CD isn't written like cinematic movie slop,
It's literally placeholder and barebones shit
you fucking retard
you don't have to defend every single aspect just because you like the game
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>>736361217
I've lost count of how many conversations with NPCs in CD could have ended 4 sentences and awkwardly long pauses sooner. This is the worst when doing sidequests because they spend 5 sentences just thanking Kliff and repeating obvious information in different ways.
>Can you get me some ore so I can make better weapons?
>Great, now that I've got some ore I can make better weapons.
>The weapons I'll make will be the best in the continent.
>You've really done me a great service.
>I don't know what I'd have done without your help.
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>>736361537
just because you have beefy hardware doesn't mean you know how to configure software correctly. bet you arent even using reno or opti
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Reply to this post with your defense that CD has good writing.
Tell my how much you love this story.
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>>736361453
What does outsider mean in this context? Pearl Abyss made Black Desert over a decade ago and even if it's a shitty P2W gook MMO, it made a lot of money and was always having around the MMO scene. This isn't some indie company coming out of nowhere trying to enter the AAA scene and punch up or something.
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>>736361453
This. Anyone who believes otherwise is a complete fool.
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>>736361715
Newer studios making AAA games instead of online and AA
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>>736361658
>bet you arent even using reno or opti
It should not be necessary at all.
What kind of cuckoldry is this?
It's fully on the devs to fix it, not me. Not some modder.
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>>736361715
>What does outsider mean in this context?
Asian.
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>>736361706
Nobody said that. We said the games you think have good writing are actually really mediocre and would be laughed at if they were books or movies (which they desperately want to be).
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>>736361840
I accept your concession.
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>>736361792
And eastern Europeans
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>>736361657
This is actually pretty accurate. I've never played the LotR games and gave up on AC but from what I've seen of them it lines up.
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>>736360498
I cannot understand this fucking wank over rdr2 and tw3, one is a damn movie game and the other only got good with the french dlc
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>>736359907
This game is far too difficult. The combat is sluggish and a cheap knockoff of Dark Souls.

The story is confusing and doesn't explain anything ever.

The exploration is too difficult. There's nothing hinting at where I'm supposed to go.
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>>736361789
Stupid nigga you are gaming on Windows you already have to go through a humilation ritual to get worse performance than a 7900XTX.
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>>736361657
this is right about those of the games I've played on it, which isn't many
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>>736361789
Says the man thats already DLSS swapping.
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>>736361947
One is an immersive and beautiful cowboy simulator with an amazing world.
The other has one of the best fantasy worlds and features some of the best writing and characters in any game.
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>>736362001
Not to defend the game but exploration is not point A to point B. You should be able to find some way into places but there's nothing more cancerous than the quest mark and fast travel system of modern RPGs.
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>>736361947
A lot of normalfaggots love movie games and RDR2 is that idea personified. Tons of man hours and money poured into shit that has zero impact on actual gameplay or making the game less of a boring slog. Expect GTA6 to continue this trend. As for Witcher 3, I never finished it because the god awful combat just kept repelling me every time I tried to keep going.
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>>736362001
The brownskins itt won't understand your sarcasm.
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>>736361873
No. Both the kurwas and vavra kissed the ring. They are neutralized.
Big Japanese players like Square, Bamco and Capcom are also infected, with only smaller AA strugglers gasping for air.

But now, all of a sudden, Chinese and Korean barbarians that used to only make GAAS MMO mobile gachasloppa are invading the single-player/console AAA/AA market. That was western poz territory. Now these yet uninfected giants are giving the people what they want - providing not just an alternative chud product but also an example to other devs.
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>>736362052
>>736362016
Wrong on both accounts
I'm describing the footage I've watched on what rig, you subservient midgets.
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>>736359907
western studios want to be lazy in their own bubble
they tolerate asian games as long as they "stay in their lane" only making mmo or gacha
but once asian countries prove they can make similar or better AAA vidya its over. the west is already facing shit tons of layoffs from studios or outlets
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>>736362245
Western journo were still hostile towards WH as well saber and some other studio that make lower budget games
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>>736359907
It's led by a normal guy with not sexual or racial abnormalities, which sends journos into a broyges.
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>>736362069
You need to be 18 or older to post on this website.
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>>736362409
Sure thing dwag, ubi rip-off is definitely better than tw3 and rdr2
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>>736361656
>CD
Feels like minimal effort was put in story, but guess what? Its ok, world and gameplay is fine.
>rdr and witcher
It feels like story is big element of selling both title, big effort was put into it.
Still its alright at best and shit most of the time. Literal teenage book level of writing.
I played few games for story, planscape or movie games like uncharted, mainly because I have soft spot for india jones flicks. Planescape is a bit a exeption, other than thqt Its kind of guily pleasure. If you play games for story, especialy smth like witcher or rdr2 than i have bad news for you. Youll better off reading some good fanfic.
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>>736362517
I don’t think either of those games has writing better than good books, but when paired with beautiful worlds and some gameplay, it’s an entirely different experience
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I think the game is fun and you're a homosexual if you care about some failed Hollywood script in your games.
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>I'm afraid
>*kills 50000000 people*
Amazing writing bravo I cried when the horse died because sad music was playing bloody benchod.
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>>736362636
It’s not only writing
there’s also cohesion, art direction, world building, and making your quests meaningful instead of “now kill 7 more bandits because I don’t know”
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>>736362636
I'm not asking for much but if you're going to force me to watch cutscenes or listen to some fuck on a horse then make it worth listening to instead of me just questioning why they even bothered animating it.
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>>736362016
I'd rather get buggered daily than use linux.
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>>736362695
As opposed to
>now kill 700 more bandits
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>>736362748
There's not a single "Kill X bandits" quest in the game. The closest to this is freeing the quarries, but even those have actual goals in them like destroying the buildings and fighting the respective boss, or even sending your mooks to do the dirty work.
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>>736362636
"it's fun" is the last refuge of people with shit opinions
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>>736362863
Nobody praised or plays the game for the story though. Gotcha again.
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>Do a bunch of camp quests.
>The main quest giver finds 30 different ways to say "I'm happy we're finding more greymanes!" which is the only thing he says.
>Doesn't just say it over and over again, says it slightly different each time.
>Each time you find a new greymane, they have the exact same reaction
>Game requires you to complete hours upon hours of quests for barely any reward.

That's my main issue with the game, I wanna go out and find cool shit but most of the time its so hidden you can't even find it without using a guide, or the items you do find are just stupid and not worth it.
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>>736362873
They are all essentially “kill bandits” quests because the writing isn’t good enough to actually engage you in the story and actions.
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>>736362625
So you admit that without presentation their story is shit?
Because rdr2 story is antifun flick written by western genre deconstrutors. Its fun only for the people that dig this genere and want to rp as a "real" cowboy. I agree about beautiful world but when story is constructed in sucha way to fuck up with fun factor and player (especialy when you compare it to rdr1) it becomes worse offender than mmo base story, even if the rockstars ones is "better" written.
Witcher on the other hand is just bad fanfiction tier based on mid fantasy novel and im polish. Game Witcher world feels like an atraction park, you cant walk 50m without running into some moster, bn, treasure or some other scripted encounter. It doesnt feel like a real world (in comparison to rdr or CD).
Of course i agree with you, story adds if even takes the medium to another level if its done right, but both of the games that youve mentioned arent an examples of good story.
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>>736362990
In that case every single Witcher 3 quest is just "kill X" too.
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>>736359965
You're almost there anon. Another 20+ hours and you'll have adjusted to it's crap factor of a control scheme and learned to navigate it's backasswards UI.
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>>736361657
Fairly accurate about the games I've played.
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>>736363678
>Just few more hours and you'll stockholm syndrome yourself into liking this shit
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>>736362956
Shit that get on my nerves
>yes
>of course
Why thry didnt record more variation if they repeat it like a 100 times
>greymanes being asholes
I understnad that you put someone like yann, but Im tired of all of them beside marius, being pasive agressive, beggers, dunkards, load and obnoxious, it makes me feel tired.
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>>736363545
Yeah but they feel different and more interesting because the writing is good and characters are interesting

>>736363436
Idk about all that but they are more than engaging so i like
Also don't ignore the art direction that's also important
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>>736361657
Oblivion has a better world than Skyrim but the gameplay is worse due to scaling.
Elden Ring has better writing than Bitcher and Kangdom Cum (especially 2). It's just that it doesn't have the hand-holding cinematic presentation to make it more digestible for retards.
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>>736364270
I love From's games, but the absolute brainlets who gargle their bare bones approach to storytelling and lore which need youtube essays to unravel are a different breed.
Sekiro is their only soulslike with a coherent story and fleshed out characters.
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>>736364270
Oblivion's world is nice but not that interesting

Also lore and memey dialogues=/= good writing

Tw3 and KCD are a lot more engaging during the dialogue segments
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>>736359907
Is this some kind of reverse psychology thing where you discourage people from trying the game by acting like a retard?
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>>736359907
You’re free to like anything you want anon. Critics just rate a game based on its merits and Crimson Desert is sorely lacking on that front; it is a soulless amalgamation of mechanics copied from games and implemented haphazardly across everything in an Ubisoft open world with combat from pre-Origins era AC. In my view, it’s a 3/10. Journalists in fact wanted to rate it lower, but couldn’t, because of editorial teams. A bit unfortunate, but it is what it is.
It’s okay to like it, but its glazing is sort of like glazing McDonalds. You CAN do it, but people would just look at you weirdly for it.
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>>736359907
Game sets the bar for open world exploration, variety, and game depth way too high. If Western AAA studios had to compete with CD they'd all die.
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>>736364980
>Muh player count
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>>736364980
The “human” bit and Durandal RP is cringe but I agree with what’s said here. In what world has popularity translated to quality? Is Pokemon the best game series in history because of how popular it is? I love Pokemon btw, Pokopia and TLA are amazing - but quality has always been an issue with the franchise since the transition to 3D. And yet it remains popular amongst the masses.
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>>736364910
Set the bar heigh by copying them?
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>>736365251
For all the problems Crimson Desert has, it's open world and the things to do it in are not one of them.
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>>736364593
>brainlets who gargle their bare bones approach to storytelling and lore which need youtube essays
I don't watch jewtubers. Your pic is some unfunny reddit niggershit though. Subhumans that think "LE ZANZIBART" is funny or relevant criticism should be raped to death because that meme comes from ass annihilated jealous mutt that wrote Borderlands.

>Sekiro is their only soulslike with a coherent story
Sure. So what? Story, plot, lore, world building, dialogue, characterization etc. are all part of the writing. And ER mogs Gaydom Cum in Men.

>>736364687
>Oblivion's world is nice but not that interesting
True. But it's near on par with Skyrim when it comes to open world design. Civilian NPC AI is much better than Skyrim's and factions are much better - this contributes to the world. You do not play Oblivion for gameplay/combat mechanics. I'm just saying its placement in the diagram is wrong as far as the "world" is considered. Either Oblivion's or Skyrim's.

>Also lore and memey dialogues=/= good writing
Wrong. Next time rewrite the "writing" to be "plot" specifically because lore and dialogue is LITERALLY writing.

>Tw3 and KCD are a lot more engaging during the dialogue segments
>engaging
Yeah like I said, ER lacks the walkie talkie presentation to make it easily digestible for drooling retards, thanks for backing that up.
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>>736365328
You can make pin board for pretty much everything present in CD
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>>736365334
You sound like a total faggot.
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>>736365627
And you sound like a redditor twitter tourist, newnigger.
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>>736365334
>lore and dialogue is LITERALLY writing
And ER has very Little of that and it's mostly there to add to the atmosphere,
Very little you are actually going to engage with

You can just say you prefer minimal storytelling instead of writing all that
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>>736365334
>Actually having abstract mumbo jumbo and item description is better than having actually well written characters and story lines

I am sure you figured it all out on your own by reading all the 130 item descriptions
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>>736364910
>If Western AAA studios had to compete with CD they'd all die.
Reminds me of when BG3 came out and we got a wave of cope articles
>"This is an exception guys, d-don't start expecting all games to be like this haha, or else we might all get laid off"
>6 years pass
>gets laid off
KWAB
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>>736365334
damn it's terminal
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>>736362245
yeah, now if only they could figure out how to make a good game
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>>736359907
who cares, it's great fun
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>>736368321
sorry, meant this one - exploring the mountains, fighting heavy armored bastards & their flying butt-buddies, helping a witch to stabilize the world with sky lasers.
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>>736368245
It'll take some time to have better games on average than the Japanese devs which have multi-generational experience, profitable market infrastructure and talent. Japanese are still kings of this medium and the sooner they shake off the westacuck influencers the better.

But Korean and Chinese devs are already proving to be better than the westaslop peddlers.
They are also on a more promising trajectory. For example it's safe to say that Stellar Blade 2, Crimson Desert 2, Black Myth Zhong Kui, AI Limit 2 etc. will be better than their predecessors. It's natural that they'll improve as well as sprout more IPs; However we DON'T know that Mass Effect 4, Battlefield 7, Fable 4, Halo 7, Assassin's Creed Hexe etc. will be better than their predecessors, in fact it's almost certain that they'll be worse.

That is what I mean by trajectories and changing trends.
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>You can make pin board for pretty much everything present in CD
There is a map for that. It looks like this.
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>>736361305
>I think almost all games are quite infantile in their writing.
>he doesn't know
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>>736369331
Crazy thing is this map is woefully incomplete, I think even hernand isn't all filled in
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>>736364593
LMAO
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>>736370197
pictured: Me approximately 4 milliseconds after stealing the Hwando
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>>736369331
I don't get why this is supposed to be so impressive when the majority of that are mining nodes and reskinned bandit camps. It just gets boring.
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>>736359907
why do you keep astroturfing this shitty 5/10 AIslop?
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>>736361657
I remember Skyrim wasn't hailed as the king of gaming when it came out, what's with all this revisionist cocksucking for it recently?
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>>736360015
>>736360307
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>>736360653
Hello chinkslop shills
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>>736370197
Is this the rape novel?
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>>736369078
Pokemon and cod must be the best games of all time
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>>736359907
Why do you care what other people think?
Why can't you just enjoy things?



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