Finally, Persona 4 is playable.
>cross-dressing pageant>cringenot very woek of they/them.........
>>736369812>play cringe game>complain it's cringe
>>736369812Pc fags don't deserve games. They should go back to toy with excel spreadsheets
>>736369904But enough about your favorite crap game.
>>736369812The whole game is anime cringe for retards, what a truly tone-deaf things it is to remove these specific parts that specifically offended you
whats cringe about the camping?
>>736370098le problematic homophobia
It's funny because almost 100% of the people I've seen complain about the "problematic" scenes of P4 are women (the outliers being half-men like Joseph Anderson) who usually end up also playing games like Kingdom Hearts where they proceed to gush about how Sora and Riku (minors btw) are gay for each other. So it's fine to celebrate the idea of literal kids being romantic with each other but a game making light of two boys being grossed out by each other is over the line.
>>736369812>PageantNot cringe at all, probably the funniest scene in the game.>Group Date CafeIt's cringe, but intentionally so which is where the comedy comes from.>Camping TripI just thought that was kind of boring, no cringe there either.>Hot SpringsThat one is actually cringe, shit and makes the girls look bad. I don't know why the fuck every Persona game has to have a hot springs scene.
>Personafags are actually fags and getting upset by thisShouldn't you queers be looking for a cure to your monkeypox or something?
>>736369812Braindead drones usually prefer censoring things instead of actually seeing them as intended. I saw a mod for Yakuza that removes a scene where Haruka and Saejima fall over. Somehow, it doesn't occur to them that if they hate a scene that much they can just not play the game.
>>736370227erm, queer horny is totally not problematic, its str**ghtoid horny that's problematic
>>736370098>tripthat's probably why
>>736369812Look at this fragile, and secure baby. Imagine not being able to enjoy something unbashingly without your ego falling apart.
>>736370261>it doesn't occur to them that if they hate a scene that much they can just not play the game.nope, they INSIST on consuming it and shaking their head at the icky parts to show they don't agree with it
The type of person who would use this self-censorship mod also throws a bitch fit any time a girl's outfit is changed to cover 1% less skin, crying about censorship.
>>736369812wtf they're removing the entire game???
>>736369925The AI can do that.There's literally no real reason to own a PC anymore.
>>736370243Persona 5 and Royal don't have a hot spring scene.
>>736370495Strikers does.
>>736369812Can't forget the gay Yosuke mod
>>736369812Why do you care how someone mods their game? Isn't this the same board that whines when nude mods get taken down? Live and let live.
>>736369812>remove cringe from a high school simulatorJust delete the game, that’s like taking the drums out of metal music.
>>736369812Ironic that the biggest cringe scenes in Persona (the band scenes) aren't referenced in the image.
>>736370098You never had your boomer dad realize he failed being a father and forced you and the rest of the family on a sudden camping trip only to lose his fucking mind when nobody that consented to be there is having a good time? That's like a common childhood trauma memory.
>>736369946fuck you, don't you dare shit talk my favorite game
>>736369812Cringe events add soul doe
>>736371630Damn, no wonder you guys turned out like this. My dad just spent nearly all of his time working and barely talked to me.
>>736371630Speak for yourself, I miss hiking with dad. I'll never forgive that asshole that crushed his knees.
>>736371128The first problem is that it exists at all.
>>736371630Kids like you are the biggest pieces of shit. Daddy tries to make some good memories and what does my family do? A big fuck you daddy. You little shitheads make yourselfs miserable and nlame me fir ut. Fuck you kid. FUCK IO.
>>736370243>makes the girls look bad.For real, I actually hated the entire female main cast since then.
>>736371954>that asshole that crushed his knees.?
>>736370243The camping trip just made me feel bad for Kanji. He literally did nothing wrong and still got the worst of everything.
>>736369812>still purchasing a game with gender ideology in the form of "crossdressing" just to mod it out>legitimize it by merely calling it "cringe"Pick a side.
>>736369812Holy based!
>>736373407Indeed, see >>736373310
>>736370098It's boring, I want to play a video game and I have my control taken from me for an hour.
>>736369812I love pc gaming, but shit like this makes me wish these games weren't on the platform. A bunch of faggots and agenda driven tards ruin and inject their shit in everything
>>736373432That doesn't seem correct.
>>736370258You mean the next made up virus that you fell for yet again like aids and covid? Not very smart, even for a poltard. I get it, you didn't fall for it you just agree with the media this time because it benefits your fragile made up beliefs against people for who they are.
>>736372224>Daddy tries to make some good memoriesIt's just a pigheaded way for him to force his own hobbies onto his kids rather than truly engage with them and learn what THEY are interested inmost dads are shit and just give up when they find out their son isn't interested in ball games or camping
>>736370261That scene is one of the most out of character moments in the entire franchise and completely does not work with it. It being in there is a net negative, similar to the original Yakuza 3 inexplicably having an anti-racism substory. No reason, never mentioned again, just pointless.
>>736369812This is how it ought to be. Puritans who can't handle the game as it's meant to be can use an optional version of the game, rather than censoring the main version that the rest of us play.
>>736371034That'll be official in the remake.
>>736373606What part? "Crossdressing" being part and parcel with gender ideology, calling it "cringe" being far too generous for the subversive plight on society that it is, or the completely factual origins of "based" as a compliment?
>>736371034This, plus a fem MC mod.
>>736372224Did you ever ask what would be fun to do as a family or did you just go with camping because you saw it on TV/in a movie once?
>>736371630I loved camping as a kid, but I suppose there is a lot more that goes into making a camping trip fun than what I remember as a child, since a lot of it is just work. I should thank him some time for all the effort he put in.
I mean whatever as long as troons don't forget Persona 4 is a chud game for chad chuds
>>736369812>Remove cringe events>It's the four scenes that the freaks that latched onto Persona hate Pathetic
>>736372665He didn't pay the mob back the loans he took out to buy us Christmas presents in time.What really happened was, our then next-door neighbor thought he put his car in park when it was in neutral. My dad was getting his tools out of the trunk of our car when his car rolled downhill just like two feet and pinned my dad's knees between the two bumpers. I can still recall his screams to this day, to the point that I get severe PTSD attacks when he hurts himself and I hear him scream. (Which was only like three times since, I wouldn't even know it was PTSD if my reaction wasn't a worse version of the PTSD I get from car accidents.) I don't hate him for making that stupid mistake. I hate the guy cause he never bothered to report the accident to his insurance, resulting in us having to sue them to get the medical bills covered. My dad recovered almost completely, but he could never go on long hikes after that.
>>736371715Oh yeah? What’s your favorite game?
>>736374561Nope. It'll stay gone
>>736370098It's the generic anime SoL "humor" mostly. And Yosuke being an asshole, but that's normal.But frankly if you don't like that kind of stuff you're not going to like P4 much anyway so why bother.t. Doesn't like that kind of stuff
>>736369812everything after persona 3 is turbo cringe wish i didnt buy 5 lol
>>736374667those are based actually. i like the mods to play as kasumi in p5
It's funny how the right understands the differences between the left and right in Japan but the left doesn't, and the left totally misses what Atlus's point in these games are while crying media literacy at anyone on the right who enjoys them.Atlus, as with most Japanese people, have always held the position of the importance of indepence and not bowing to the larger group. Persona 4 is all about that, in rejecting the pull of the city, rejecting the conformity and expectations of your peers, and admitting the things you care about even if they go beyond the expectations of society. 5 is similar, though takes a more nation wide approach, in the idea that you must follow someone or bow to authority.Lefties see these two games as political opposites when in reality they're pretty identical, just not in a western way of thinking
>>736374350I'm not going to pretend I love the scene, but it establishes that Saejima cares how Haruka is treated even though he probably hasn't seen a woman in 25 years, and Kiryu mentions it afterwards. It isn't just a weird moment for no reason.
>>736373310How is drag 'gender ideology'? Was Shakespeare an early SJW?
>>736374624Properly told, stories with Crossdressing are the best antidote to "Gender ideology" and show that "Gender" is meaningless, biological sex is the only things that matters. Persona 4 is actually a great example of this, it repeatedly shows that by crossdressing Naoto doesn't become a man, and none of the boys become women. It shows that clothes are just clothes, and it's important to accept yourself for who you really are rather than pinning for an impossible way to change yourself. That's why trannies hate characters like Naoto and Bridget so much and push so hard to rewrite them.
>>736375259Are you surprised? The same fags who insist it are the same ones who came in with P5 but never played it.
>>736369925>reeeee having options hurts my plebeian brain lmao
>>736373432Live on the west coast, can confirm this.
>>736370261Changing something for yourself on your own PC for your own enjoyment isn't just censorship, it's literal book burning - more severe than the 3rd Reich and the fire of Alexandria combined. Downplaying serious events like someone installing a mod should be illegal.
>>736369812>remove cringe eventsSo just delete the whole game then.
>>736376048yeah
>>736375439The difference between transvestites and transsexuals is that the former have not forgotten that they are just pretending.
>mod named "remove cringe events">doesn't remove the entire Marie SL
>>736374876>Don't be gender non-conformingapparently this is in all Atlus games (from what I can tell from /v/), which should tell you something about the audiences of these games.Most people really don't need a reminder.
>>736375439Hiring men to dress as women, because women are a pain to deal with in any professional setting, is a far cry from writing stories that glorify the act.>>736375440>Properly told, stories with Crossdressing are the best antidote to "Gender ideology"Properly told, stories about troons cast them as the unambiguous villains, yes.>That's why trannies hate characters like Naoto and Bridget so much and push so hard to rewrite them."Bridget" isn't exactly a hard rewrite, already representing modern Japan's "otokonoko" blight.
>>736376217no bully my waifu
>>736376047You can just say you like it when someone makes a mod specifically to remove a scene that leftists find "problematic."
>>736375440>Hey I'm a detective too let me help you mr police man>fuck off kid you're literally 14 years old>waaah they don't want me because I'm a girlfor a supposedly smart person Naoto is kinda retarded
>>736376137Correct. Drag is an act. Drag Queens are usually cis men.>>736376497>is a far cry from writing stories that glorify the act.You never read/watched As You Like It, Twelfth Night, or the Merchant of Venice? Shakespeare loved cross-dressing plots.Next you'll tell me Bugs Bunny is gender ideology too.
>>736375440the thing that always gets me about naoto's story and the way wannabe activists twist it to their own narrative is that it really isn't about her wanting to be a man at all. she just wants to be respected in her field, and if anything her real issue is being seen as an annoying kid that gets preferential treatment due to being a prodigy. Her gender really doesn't factor into it at all, if anything the way she/her shadow focuses on it is just further emphasis on how childish they actually are.
>I'm gonna play a Japanese game and get offended at tropes the Japanese keep shoving into all their shitI fucking hate these people
>>736377292Americans never lost their inner racism.
736373893AIDS
>>736370354The guy said this was just suppose to be a joke but triggered a lot of people and made him happy because he got more clicks from retards lol
>>736376497>Properly told, stories about troons cast them as the unambiguous villains, yes.Yes, villains or heros with a flaw they need to overcome.>"Bridget" isn't exactly a hard rewrite, already representing modern Japan's "otokonoko" blight.Otokonoko are a good thing, and it's why Japan is so resistant to gender ideology. People who feel like they don't fit in with manly ideals have a better path there, so they won't give in to one that tells them they're born wrong and need risky drugs and cosmetic surgery. Making Bridget trans is an inversion of everything his story is about. Despite the cute outfit, Bridget's story of leaving home to prove himself and his capability is a fundamentally masculine one.
>>736377424Klepek is a massive homosexual it was 100% not a joke
>>736377424>LOL I TROLL YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUok pat
>>736369812>play anime games>complain about anime tropesYeah, just burn it all. Holy shit.
>>736377345>PicNobody will love you if you don't love yourself first.
>>736377716>play souls games>complain about swamp levels
>>736377716tranime is real
>>736377827>Post on anime site>Complain about anime
>>736371630>he didn't become an Eagle Scout with a reverence for the outdoorsimagine calling yourself white
>>736378006I didn't complain about it. anime has a lot of tranny overlap, it's descriptive.
>>736377774Don't kink shame him bigot
>>736377503>villains or heros [sic]Why would any sane man write an autogynephile or autoandrophile as a protagonist?>People who feel like they don't fit in with manly idealsSo you mean men, who would rather be women because they can't lift. Got it...>they won't give in to one that tells them they're born wrong and need risky drugs and cosmetic surgeryThen why is there no path telling them to exercise their masculinity instead of letting whatever remains of it wither away under a dress? Oh, because the culture has been feminized since World War II and Japan rediscovering its cultural masculinity would mean reforming its evil, Fascist™ Monarchy, and we can't have that for ANY country (except the brown ones not on an island, out of Schmittian exception for the fact they let us take out some of their enemies for a share in their oil trade)!
>>736378276I was talking about the girl. The girl hates herself so she's missing out on love.
>>736378157does make you wonder if Japan has a sizable tranny population under the surface
>>736378282>Oh, because the culture has been feminized since World War II and Japan rediscovering its cultural masculinity would mean reforming its evil, Fascist™ Monarchy, and we can't have that for ANY countryGermany and Japan are both rebuilding their militaries due to fear of Russia and China and because the USA doesn't want to pay for everything.
>>736378768it definitely does and it's not really "under the surface" they just have their own side of town just like geeks have akihabara
>>736370098Yosuke doesn't want to sleep close to Kanji in the tent after seeing his faggot sauna shadow.
>>736369812Yikes... removing the pageant is very transphobic
>>736378873>Germany and Japan are both rebuilding their militariesWhile keeping their muh-hecking-representation-based Governments, because they've been told for 80 years that their countries projecting strength was a mistake.
>>736379067to be fair I wouldn't want to sleep next to someone who ate all my animal crackers either
>>736371630I'm not a humongous faggot so I loved camping with my family and/or friends
>>736369812Surprised that grooming mudkip faggot isn’t the author of that mod.
>>736378282>So you mean men, who would rather be women because they can't lift. Got it...You don't realize how much lifting it takes to maintain a slim body that looks good in a skirt.>Then why is there no path telling them to exercise their masculinity instead of letting whatever remains of it wither away under a dress?What do you think masculinity means? Is it just cultural tropes? Many of the cultural tropes about men in our culture are fucked, telling us men are lazy, dumb and uncleaned. If masculinity is just cultural tropes, then general masculinity should be abandoned so people can pursue the specific things that make them a better person.Is masculinity the virtuous traits that a man should have to perform his societal role? Confidence, resisting social pressure, being a capable provider, care for and a desire to protect the people around him, possessing bravery and a willingness to take risks? I agree that stories should have male characters showcase these virtues to act as role models, but nothing about crossdressing diminishes these virtues. In fact, the crossdressing characters in Persona 5 possess many of those traits, showcasing them strongly in the very scene where where the crossdressing occurs. (With the exception of Yosuke.) A man with a strong masculinity is not shaken by crossdressing no matter how cute he looks or how awful he looks, which is exactly what the scene in p4 was trying to communicate.>WWII and government structuresI have opinions on that too, but let's try to stay on topic. Maybe if this was a Persona 5 thread, but this is a Persona 4 thread and the game has nothing to do with that.
Where's the mod to replace Marie with Labrys
>>736377827I hate normalfaggots so fucking much.
>>736371630I’m not gonna lie, you sound like an enormous faggot.
After how they handled p3 remake by having the shitty psp version ai upscaled I'm not buying or playing any atlus product ever again
>>736379459Do you think he'll have the balls to include the Ken romance in that Fem mod?
>>736379221>muh-hecking-representation-based GovernmentsWhat, you want them to revert back to absolute monarchies?
>>736378090I love the outdoors and nature only on light breeze days or when it is in the mid-60's out.
>>736373432keyed
>>736371630Ah, there's the cringe.
>>736369925This but actuallyEvery PCqueer thinks they’re top banana and can tweak every thing about a game to the point where it’s not even the same game anymore, and yet they don’t see the problem in this
>>736372401Even Nanako?
>>736379927Nanako knows what she did.
>>736379657Dunno. There are screenshots of him grooming underage year old girls on discord so it doesn’t seem to be a problem.
>>736371630I used to draw when we went camping and I always had a gameboy and some batteries.Then when my brother and I were old enough that my dad let us have some drinks with him camping became a lot more fun.Plus we'd always catch some fish and yabbies so we always ate well.
>>736379461>You don't realize how much lifting it takes to maintain a slim body that looks good in a skirt.Cute. I'm glad this is your standard for argumentation.>What do you think masculinity means?>Is masculinity the virtuous traits that a man should have to perform his societal role?Yes.>the cultural tropes about men in our culture are fucked, telling us men are lazy, dumb and uncleanedThanks to 80 years of State-enforced cultural subversion on Japan's side, and 250 years of it in the West.>A man with a strong masculinity is not shaken by crossdressingA man with strong masculinity would refuse to participate in his own debasement.>>736379659You call it "reverting," I call it "regaining sanity."
>>736369812why are zoomers like this?
>>736375084Warzone 2100
>>736380112>You call it "reverting," I call it "regaining sanity."Why would you want to live under an absolute monarchy? Do you really want Queen Merkel ruling for life?
>>736380112>A man with strong masculinity would refuse to participate in his own debasement.He would not be debased by it at all. Stories about crossdressing exist in very strong cultures, like Thor disguising himself for a wedding with a giant. Additionally, positive stories about crossdressing that defy gender ideology are the best way to counter gender ideology, it is uniquely important to have them right now to resist subversion.
>>736380695>Do you really want Queen Merkel ruling for life?Do you really think the current Government of Germany would be in charge if it was replaced by a Monarchy?
>>736378873Germany is just pretending.
>>736381418How will the monarch be picked, then?
>>736381492Germany being the reason for a third time would be funny ngl
>>736381902It'd make sense. The reason for the second war was loose ends from the first war. The reason for the third war if it happens will most likely be loose ends from the second.
>>736381589By the succession of the Monarch's offspring, how else?
>>736382051>The reason for the third war if it happens will most likely be the second choice chancellor of foreign affairs making yet another dumb comment.Fixed that.
>>736381589He's taking the piss because he doesn't want to admit he lost the argument on cross dressing.
>>736369812>hold the cringe??>hey jimmy, give me a jrpg with NUTTIN