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are they right?

>Crimson Desert is fun to play, but it is such a cynical amalgamation of borrowed mechanics. It is Now That's What I Call Gaming plucked off a gas station shelf, for better & worse. Expect a lot more of this in premium & F2P. There is less risk in it.


https://www.gamesradar.com/games/open-world/crimson-desert-is-a-cynical-amalgamation-of-borrowed-mechanics-says-baldurs-gate-3-publishing-lead-expect-a-lot-more-of-this-in-premium/
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>>736373138
It's not "Larian says", it's "one guy who works for Larian says". Editorialized statements like that are why people in the industry are too afraid to comment on anything.
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sometimes a mcdonalds is better than a steak
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>Expect a lot more of this in premium & F2P. There is less risk in it.
Stupid mongrel retard is talking like the industry HASN'T been doing shit like this since forever

Retarded nigger
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This is fair to say since Larian basically invented the turn based RPG genre
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>>736373364
nice food analogy fatass
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TRVKE they should have made the game a deckbuilding vampire survivors soulslike with roguelike mechanics instead
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>>736373138
Didn’t Larian quite literally borrow concepts and systems from Wizards and BioWare?
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>>736373138
and this is what matters in the end
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>>736373138
There is nothing new under the sun.
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i mean it was a cancelled Korean MMO. Korean MMOs are inherently extremely soulless, all PvP p2w shit that publishers would axe after a year to push the paypigs in to a newer one.
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>>736373734
>food analogies bad
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>>736373138
lol, trannyjournos are rallying behind these cuckold enthusiasts

sorry, CD still mogs your degeneracy
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That's saying literally nothing. This is true to every game, including Baldur's Gate 3.
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>>736374538
Not really. Every open world game was awful until breath of the wild released. Now all the new ones just copy it.
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>>736373270
people in the industry comment on shit they know nothing about all the time. it's all they do.
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>>736373138
Right, because BG3 took sooooooo many creative risks (NOT)
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>>736373138
Who is this publishing lead? He sure has a lot of opinions. This has to be the 50th article I've seen where an article was written about something a BG3 publishing lead said.
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>>736374679
Except breath of the wild didn't do shit other open world games didn't do before already, except for slapping the zelda name on it, thereby collecting the nintendo bonus from the journalist and the approval of normies (ubisoft towers and open world with millions of low effort timewasters sprinkled over it are suddenly ok becaue nintendo did it).
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>>736373138
He is correct, but it's also filling that TES-shaped hole this generation that Bethesda failed to so of course we're going to embrace it as an oasis in a content desert.
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>>736373138
baldurs gate 3 is literal dogshit disguised as a game and without bots marketing sorcery and witchcraft it would have been laughed at and canceled
no idea if crimson deserts good but i think bg3 might legit be the worst game of all time
bg 1 and 2 were kinda cringe too desu
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>>736373138
wtf I love CD now
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>>736373668
i miss pre 2012 ndaa when garbage video game makers games didnt sell
now the govt pays them to make propaganda and people act like theyre og bungie or bethsoft when in reality theyre talentless hacks who deserve nothing
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>>736373138
> Larian
Who cares? Their game is pure shit. It's like caring about ubisoft words or something like that
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>>736375245
Some guy by name of Michael Douse.
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>>736375453
This is quite possibly the most retared comment on the board currently, and that's really saying something.
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>>736373138
in the end the result is what matters nothing else
noone cares how you made the product
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>>736375678
Is there any point to this webm?
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>>736373138
But same retards are praising pic related?
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Larian is a chinese astroturf scam company so nothing they say matters.
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>>736375919
Yeah. To show how bad BG3 actually is
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>>736375919
He despises turn-based combat. He'd much prefer if the game played like pic related.
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>>736373138
Publishing leads don't make videogames, you smelly nigger.
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>>736373270
Why are journalists so evil
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>>736376090
It doesn't show quite literally anything though.
>>736376134
Now with that it's finally starting to make sense. I guess if I don't like FPS games, I'll just take a completely random 2 minute footage of me shooting at guys or something, and then post it to a Valorant or Call of Duty thread, and I'll try to act like I'm not the one retarded here. Sounds fun.
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>>736373138
What about Crimson Desert is cynical?
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>>736376650
It harshly limits the number of cats you can have on your person at one time.
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>>736376764
How do you get a cat on your shoulder?
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>>736374243
>Butts butts I love butts
When did it become normal for employees/people to put their sexual interests on their bios? Like what if I just put
>I like touching girl breasts
On my LinkedIn page? Is it okay now?
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>>736373138
>nigger faggot says
And I care because?
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>>736376953
If you're standing still near them for a while, one might climb up on you. Though if you start running, it'll jump off.
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>>736377037
And here I thought you could have one as a permanent companion. My disappointment is immeasurable.
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>>736373138
he's just talking shit because the game contains AI
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>>736377113
Sadly not, else I imagine everyone would be running across the world with a cat.
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>>736376000
Expedition 33 has a very strong sense of identity to it. The way it borrows mechanics from earlier games comes across more as a loving pastiche than a slap-dash amalgamation. More importantly though it showcases heaps of identity in its art style, everything from the writing to the costume designs, music and visuals, it all feels cohesive and authored because it's saturated with recurring motifs throughout. If they released a trailer for a sequel set in the same world as Expedition 33, but with new characters, new enemies and without any of the same assets, people would recognize the IP instantly.

Crimson Desert is impressive as a sandbox which provides unprecedented levels of freedom but you would be hard pushed to make a new game that players would recognize as being in the style of Crimson Desert because it doesn't have one.
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>>736377287
Latest patch notes have this in them, so there has to be a way to get a feline friend somewhere in the game.
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>>736373138
>developer of sequel complains about lack of originality in new IP
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>>736373138
So like Palworld?
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>>736377458
Essentially, yes. Crimson Desert is to third person action combat games in general as Palworld is to Pokemon specifically.
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>>736373138
>Game looks intresting
>Watch YouTube video on combat
>Banner lord where the main character flips through the air hitting multiple enemies at once.
Warriors franchise was a mistake, fucking pass!
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>>736373752
couldve been a fun minigame, to be fair
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>>736377310
Yeah sure, shoehorned parry mechanics are sure helping the game with identity. At first glance it looks like realistic Persona, Even camera angles are the same, but somehow its a pastiche...
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>>736373138
They're right. Velvet Sandbox looks and plays like an ai generated game
A bunch of ai slop spliced together.
One clip it's a "not game of thrones" character fighting in a medieval setting
The other clip he's zooming across the sky like a bat
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>>736378986
>No more weird shit forced in games
>just pure fantasyslop
Anon please, I can only get so erect.
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>>736374243
>7 man cuck squad
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>>736373915
anon i think he's just calling you fat
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>>736373138
no they are not
the fact is that BG3 is fucking gay and made by tumblr artists

CD is fucking based and made by straight people who like cool things
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>>736377593
CRAB BATTTLE
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>>736380445
>RPG Codex
>The people who enjoy 10 minutes pre buff battles against a fly in a random encounter in a game made by Owlcat
Lmao
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>>736382290
I trust the cynical fucks over at RPG codex more than some random zoomer that thinks baldurs gate started at 3 like fucking star wars
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That's fucking rich coming from a studio that keeps making the exact same game over and over and had their biggest success by hijacking a popular franchise and making it unrecognizable from the original. Reminder that 90% of skills in all of their games are useless filler and all you do is pick the same 3-4 abilities and spam them in every fight.
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>>736373138
He’s upset at the lack of man on bear gay sex.
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>>736382290
Ok? Game is still gross and written by literal cucks.
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>>736373138
TRVKE I'm afraid
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>>736382383
I'm 32, i have tried playing BG 1 and 2 and they are extremely boring. Even BG 3 does the sword, sword + 1 and sword + 2 shit that they do and its absolutely retarded. DOS is a lot better. BUT at the end of the day all of them are stil better than Owlcat games simply by the fun interaction with the environment
>>736382497
I don't care one bit about whatever mindbroke you into virtue signaling. You've been seething about this game for years now. Not all boats that you scream at will sink, shitposter san.
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>>736376090
>i want the story to branch so much that central characters and plot points can be completely sidestepped but it still continues
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>>736377310
Thanks grok very nice
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I literally have no idea what this game is about despite seeing threads shilling it every day for the past 6 months
Your marketing campaign is a complete failure. You've tried outrage marketing, you've tried all sorts of shit, and I know literally nothing about your game. I couldn't tell you what genre it is. I couldn't tell you whether it has a story or if it's a live service title or if it's high budget or low budget. I don't know who made it. I know literally nothing about it. All I know is the name. You haven't made me google it or look anything up about it, ever, even a single time.

It's genuinely insane to me that multi-million dollar companies will run advertising campaigns like this. People actually pay for this kind of marketing. I know NOTHING ABOUT YOUR GAME. STOP SHITTING UP THE CATALOG WITH MARKETING THREADS THAT DON'T EVEN MARKET ANYTHING
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>>736373138
Both of these games are sloppa and I'm not touching any of them.
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>>736382823
No, I want my RPG game to be well-written. I don't want any empty or pointless dialogues that lead nowhere. I want the scenario to create situations where you wouldn't even get the idea to stray from the main story path.What we see in BG3 is an example of empty dialogues designed to create the illusion of branching rather than real branching.WOTR and RT are written much better.
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>>736384313
>designed to create the illusion of branching rather than real branching
But you do know why that is the case, right?
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>>736373138
Literally who?
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>>736384719
Some dipweed with a habit of running his mouth on twitter.
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>>736373270
and he's a publishing director too, so basically none of the actual senior team of designers
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>>736373138
They made a game where every character is a gay romance option. The wizard will never stop hitting on your male character no matter how much you turn him down. You can actively be a troon and the game is broken by being a naked monk.
Of course they would say this game is bad its marketing for whatever they shit out next.
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>>736384809
Sounds like the time Josh Sawyer whined about Larian raising the bar.
People always bad mouth their betters.
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>>736385246
Probably. The guy's not even a dev, he's a fucking publicist.
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>>736373138
I can't believe how mad this game is making people
There are no chud elements
The women are more covered up than most western games!
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>>736385634
Ah but you see money laundering and dei practices werent a part of game creation so blackrock told them they had to say it was bad.
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>>736386332
Shame
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>>736385634
>>736386332
It's chud by not being far left political and double chud for being asian
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>>736377113
>>736377287
if only a 5 second google search could solve this
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>>736384719
Larry from Larrian
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>>736373138
>publishing lead
rage bait
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>>736387239
Exactly. To these brainlets anything to the right of extreme left is far right and facism. Which is funny given how little they actually know about facism
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>>736373138
asian games have never been good. their only redeeming feature was the waifus. no waifus = bad asian games. pove me wrong
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>>736373270
FPBP games journos are always the problem.
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>>736387686
Nice try axewound
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>>736377310
Your post is about art direction where as OPs articule is talking about game design. Both E33 and Crimson Desert have incredibly strong design identity in gameplay and do not feel like lazy clones and anyone saying otherwise just straight up hasn't played them or is intentionally being dishonest to shitpost.
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>>736377113
>>736377287
Is this some high tier meme i am not aware of? you can have a cat friend, sadly you can only have 1 following at a time though.
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WHY DOESN'T RED FLASH WORK ON EVERY RED ENEMY ATTACK THIS MECHANIC IS SO FUCKED I HATE IT!!!
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>>736387686
>frog
there's proof that you're wrong
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>>736373138
They're pretty much correct, though. Crimson Desert is fucking overflowing with half-baked systems stolen from other games that barely fit together. If a game's been popular in the last decade, you can pretty much guarantee some aspect of it's in Crimson Desert, ripped basically wholesale.
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>>736389803
Discord tranny, you haven't played it. Nobody who has actually played the game would say the game's systems are half balked.
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>>736373138
who?
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>>736373138
that's not larian. it's just some retard.
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I only care what sven says, and his wife. these other fags are just dick riders.
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>>736373138
He's 100% right but uhh fuck Larian because BG3 was popular and we hate popular things.
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>>736373138
This faggot has not produced a coherent thought in its entire life
Every time I read something from him is the most retarded fucking dogshit you could read on reddit
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>>736390503
I bet you think your a woman in VR chat
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>>736373138
>crpg slop monger cries when faced with real gameplay
not surprising
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>>736373138
>WHERE'S THE GAY BEAR SEX??
Westoid devs should be hanged and flayed alive.
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i would just say
>gamesradar
but larian calling another game frankensteined together after turning balders gate into original sin 3 is fucking vomit inducing
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>>736373138
Literally AI based game design.
No wonder they need Denuvo.
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>>736390685
it's not larian. it's some fag who thinks he speaks for everyone
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>>736390649
they're all in California. as an American I give you permission
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>>736373138
Crimson Desert does look like the sloppiest video game ever made, to be fair.
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>>736390747
denuvo is a sign of a shit game



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