Have you fallen for it too?>"You can do everything" shallow ass sandbox>"This is how you died" = no need to design mid- and end-game>Literally killed by being carsick>Faggot developer
>>736373443I do think there is an issue with these "broad" games that actually don't have much to them and just use a bunch of rat tactics to ensure you never discover how shallow it really is while they use the "broadness" and an army of shills to cover for not doing much work at all. If you want games that actually have surprising amounts of content, I'd recommend Noita, Conquest of Elysium, or Disgaea. Games that have solid main loops that also have a bunch of extra shit that you can explore if you choose to. None of this indie dev making a game for YouTubers to RP in and then push as some super versatile deep game shit. The simple game design that fools normalfags nowadays is honestly surprising.
I, too, like Dwarf Fortress.
I enjoyed the game for a while and then stopped. That's because I'm mentally healthy, unlike OP who is obsessed.
>>736373443Build 42 stopped me and my buddies playing it entirely. Thousands of hours, but now it's clear the devs are going way too autistic to the point of unfun tedium with very little enjoyment to be garnered from what little shred of gameplay remains. But oh well, I guess the faggot roleplayers who enjoy their cows eating their literal walls to be "immersed" are happy.
>project farmville (ft zombies)>shallowYou maybe retarded because no matter how many in depth farming features they add you still win by just walking out of town and foraging shit. The zombies do literally nothing in a game about zombies. You have to fucking mod them and manually fix their script file just to get them to actively track the player. Also doing that makes the dev have a melty as you "reverse engineering HIS game"
I don't know, if you're able to make your own story as you go it's pretty fun. Reminds me of Kenshi.
>>736373443>"You can do everything"
>took them hiring an ex-military guy to actually start unfucking b42
you can die from being carsick?
>>736373443I had enough fun to justify buying it on sale. Dev is still a massive faggot though.
>>736373443Zomboid is a one "playthrough" game reallyIf you try to replay it, even if they add something new that is completely meaningles like everything they add, it feels like>ah, this again...
>>736375281In b42 yeah if you have motion sickness trait.
The game is horrifically broken and mismanaged but it's still the best in it's class. When you say shallow you probably mean some retarded /v/ shit like no interactive sex cutscene or nigger crucifixion. I don't care about "this is how you died" insomuch that it excuses the developer from making some gay End Dragon (zomg!!!!1) "ending" for the game because spergs can't let a game end on it's own, the problem with Zomboid is that it rarely actually creates a good story like that because you're either a n00b who dies immediately because you're retarded or you're a veteran who never ever ever dies until he eventually succumbs to a bug or a inexplicably shit design decision like car sickness. Zomboid is another case for never hiring mod developers for the game they mod for because it's always retarded and they're also always veteran players with no self-awareness and their concept of balancing is just putting a 0.25x modifier on whatever the largest group of people are doing.
>somehow manage to make everything from 42.13 worse>arbitrarily started to use .json instead of .txt for descriptions>deliberately bricked peoples saves on the move to 42.16 by deleting echo creek as a spawn point>modders are practically giving up on build 42 modding because something else might change and fuck it all>people are still defending this because it's "early access" that's been doing so for 13 yearsI never experienced any of this gay bullshit on build 41 unstable. At this point you should buy the game on GOG on the off chance the dev doesn't try to fuck things up even more.
>>736375536>t. average 1990s kentuckian who, in his last moments, held his lighter until only 3% of the butane remained while yelling "fuck you future immunes i will never know of" before being devoured by a horde of zombies
>>736375536>Top 1/1
cry more faggots
>>736374408>NoitaI'm mentally ill but not as much to play Noita>Conquest of ElysiumNot bad but I enjoy slightly different kind of autism, I'm a map/gsgfag>DisgaeaIs 5 a good place to start? I'm not interested in emulating.
>>736375097>shallowas you perfectly exemplified, just because it's complex (bloated) doesn't mean it's deep
gaming is just one huge incel coping strategy.
>>736375167kek
>>736373443>still no NPCsShit sounded so promising when I initially backed the game 13 years ago
>>736375940I think 5 and 7 are typically considered the best Disgaeas. 5 can let you get used to a more classic format as 7 has a lot more features (although lacking some others as every game has something to make it unique) and the further back in the series you go, the less convenience features it has and there is less to do. 5 is a good middle ground.
>>736376127>13 years agoThis is the kind of thing we actually need legislation about in gaming. Something needs to put an end to these forever unfinished games that just suck up obscene amounts of cash without delivering. Maybe scrutiny will start after 5 years and things will get more intense after 10.
>>736376192Thanks anon
>>736376469Not legislation but actually Steam made the new rules that stop this. You need to put the release date on your early access game and you can only change it once and only by up to 3 months. So yeah, you can still be like "oh we'll release it in 20 years lmao" but at least there won't be this "when it's done" for a decade nonsense.
>>736373443>id7>3HI don't get it.
>>736376127>hired the one guy in the modding community making strides towards functional NPC's>immediately stuff him in the basement to work on retarded shit like forges and mining or whatever for years nowthese devs are GW's tier giganiggers
>>736375167Gr𝔞ci𝔞s! dr
redpill me on the creator of zomboid and why he's a faggot
>>736379132he gets assblasted about anything critical you post about himalso he supposedly browses /v/
>>736379196i hope he sees this and seethes that i think b42 is the worst update the game's ever had and it's more tedious than using nail clippers on teeth.
>>736375536>Zomboid is another case for never hiring mod developers for the game they mod for because it's always retarded and they're also always veteran players with no self-awareness and their concept of balancing is just putting a 0.25x modifier on whatever the largest group of people are doing.yeah i really hate when modders make balance decisons
>>736375214There's not enough pieces on the board for emergent gameplay like Kenshi.
