What are ya playin? I've been doing some world tour in SF6 for the DLC characters because I hadn't touched the mode since before any of them came out. I'm also playing a lot of sagat in ranked. SF6 is a great game if you're mid at fighting games and i'm a high gold low plat shitter
I don't get fighting games. They feel so clunky when I try to play them. Is SF6 a good game to get started? I tried Guilty Gear Strive and it was not a good starting point at all. Also what's up with buying the game and not having access to even 1/3 of the roster?
>>736374821FGs operate as pseudo live service games these days, its not really a modern problem though just a new version of an old problem. SF4 released with less characters than SF6 and you had to buy full new games every time to get balance changes and new characters. UMVC3 came out like 8 months after MVC3 and basically doubled the roster size. fighting games have been scamming you out of characters for years
I'm attempting to learn strive as my first fighting game...I'm just trying to follow youtube tutorials and do my best!
>>736374821>Is SF6 a good game to get startedyeah, the world tour mode does its jobif you're talking competitively, any game is good, as long as you find it FUN
>>736375078i often forget that juri isn't from vanilla sf4
>>736374416I wish i liked playing anything but SF.I have high hopes for the avatar fighting game and even preordered it
>>736374821I found I enjoy playing fighting games as a complete shitter, all the discussion online is about spending hours labbing before even taking your first fight, but the reality is all the fun elements of high level play (reading your opponent and playing mindgames) are still found in a bronze match, fighting games are great.
There is no reason to play fighting games when the thousands of training and study hours required to finally be able to play the game could be used playing hundreds of other games or even learning something that may have actual real life usefulness.
>>736375918i'd actually argue fighting games are more fun when you're mid vs other mid players. top level play is exhausting and only like 2% of players will ever get to that level anyway which is why its weird how fighting game discourse ends up talking about the game as if everyone is in that top level. like yeah throw loops are gay, but that shit never happens in shitter rankings
>>736375918>>736376054Okay so how do I get started?I tried Guilty Gear Strive and I literally can't even execute most of the moves. It also doesn't seem to have a "campaign mode". I want a game that tard wrangles me
>>736376325its a lot of muscle memory, guilty gear strive has one of the best tutorials out of any modern fighter. its worth going through, they teach you everything
>>736374821You get the whole roster for like $10 in the good games
>>736374416why would dhalsim stretch his legs to get to base when he could just teleport instead?
>>736376325If you just want to get straight into the action, SF6 is a good game. Don't need to learn any motion inputs or combos when you use Modern controls.
I feel like these threads could just be asked in /sfg/. Like wtf are the point of these
>>736377050no one want to deal with the schizos over there
>>736377076fair point
>>736374821Always play SF first when trying to get into fighters. Weebs can diverge to arcsys from there, SNK and even VF are natural extensions. If you are a gay tendie you can enter the smash cul-de-sac and stay there, if you are a third worlder you may enter at tekken or MK and stay there.
>>736377363MK is a uniquely american series though, i don't think anyone outside of USA cares about it other than maybe the bongs
>>736377435Sorry to break it to you but the US and UK are already 30-50% third world.
>More than 10 modern fighting games on the market>they're all the sameNah, I'm not playing fighting games
Fighting games are absurdly bad from a design standpoint, just at a baseline. But you should not attempt to derive any enjoyment from them unless you are playing local.
>>736378380>the only genre outside of rts with actual skill expressionjust say you got slime rushed and move on without coping
>>736378436*shits all over your "skill expression" by having 3 bars*
>>736378521if you can't deal with slime rush you deserve to be hardstuck in silver
>>736374416Strive is fun but I fear the system changes might hurt Dizzy and Testament too hardOutside pressure, Dizzy needs Blue WA for the stagger to combo into throw for Wings of LightTestament has a very hard time getting Stain + Super Wallbreak without Nostrovia, and Tension Penalty seems to still be applied after Super WallbreakI'm excited to see less system mechanic abuse, but I hope low/mid tiers that need the mechanics to function get compensation buffsUnrelated but Ingrid looks fun and I hope she does something completely different
>>736378913i want to get back into strive, but i don't wanna hop in until 2.0 because learning a version of the game thats only gonna be around for a few more weeks seems not worth it
Play Granblue Fantasy Versus RisingMore specifically, play Sheep in Granblue Fantasy Versus Rising
>>736379039It's releasing in less than a week now My prediction is mid tiers are going to see minimal changes, they still said in a blogpost that the main goal for 2.0 is to reduce the powerlevel (which is also why they're nuking Wild Assault)In the Jam gameplay reveal they've shown, Ky and Nago's gameplay look fairly similar to how they're currently played, and these are two characters that got entirely new moveshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmCbI2K6q7MIt's not going to be radically different, movement/gatlings are the same, only a few characters are getting reworked, defense will be the same and resource management should be pretty similar
>>736379563dead game
>>736380370EUbro...
>>736379563whenever i go online and play this i feel like i'm scamming people out of wins even if i'm just playing well (i main vira)
>>736379609>mfw will have to deal with cancer zoning as bedman with no wild assault>characters that were already good get new shit, nago now gets to go super saiyan on command and rape youok niggers. where is my 10 second install
>>736380653Vira does have some scam potential, especially if you manage to transform without using your meter. Also she doesn't seem to be super popular so sometimes you can just knowledge check people.
that's fucking cheating Dhalsim
>>736376729because stretching is faster
>>736381049shut up and eat your curry
>>736381049enlightenment is not concerning yourself with rules
OVER TIMEMOST THINGS FADE AWAY
i don't get why people still say SF6 has a bad soundtrack, the base game is a little mid (but still has its great tracks like ryu's theme and fete foraine) but every single dlc theme, stage and character has been excellent and now i'd call the soundtrack good if not great. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxeNDmwzB3Uhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9lcx6hTCHchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5su3mGrkW0
>>736382387>the soundtrack is not bad if you buy the good musici sleep
>>736381176i'm glad he doesn't wear the baby skulls when he cooks
>>736380653the entire game is like thatjust mash and have fun
>>736383006the base music can be pretty good too, people clown on marisa and chun's theme (for good reason) but jamie, ryu, dhalsim, juri, ken and a bunch of stages have good music
>>736374416Would this actually be a legal play in baseball sportsfags pls enser?
>>736380731>mfw will have to deal with cancer zoning as bedman with no wild assaultI feel like Bedman could do with a little rework ngl, he feels a bit all over the place without any cohesive game plan outside of his close range pressure with errors plus I'm tired of bad bedmans that just do up back>spike, please make him do something elseUnfortunately his install is going to be even worse with the Positive Bonus rework, which sucks because landing a nuke is one of the best feelings on this character>characters that were already good get new shit, nago now gets to go super saiyan on command and rape youI did a bit of analysis and it doesn't seem to be as crazy as everyone thinks it'll beIt probably only combos in the corner (even with RC), the launch on the trailer even on counterhit is super lowhttps://youtu.be/tDNHyfej2nc?t=36Every instance of his command throw we've seen in 2.0 has been in the install, where it only refunds 1,5 bar immediately and doesn't do the progressive reduction like it does right now. Because they've given him a new move to stall blood gain, I wouldn't be surprised this property is also absent from his command throw in normal mode, which nerfs his mix a bitThe install itself is indicated by the blue streaks on his headAfter landing a command throw, these disappear and he exits the installThe blood gauge is still frozen, then it goes back up normally https://youtu.be/rmCbI2K6q7M?t=32This goes against what they said about him instantly gaining all the blood spent on exiting the installHe's still darkened, probably to indicate he can't install againEither there's a timer, or the craziest part would be if it's only once per roundI think the strongest move is going to be Ky's Sol's will be ok but won't change him radicallyNago's looks good but bad players will kill themselves with itLeo's new move looks useless unless they've changed backturn
If anyone wants to play Advanced V.G. 2 or any Variable Geo game I'm up for it.
>>736376325Did you not do the mission mode? That is the tard wrangler in strive.
>blonde hair blue eyes from germany>product of eugenics program by evil military organizationhow did they get away with this?
>>736383475sell it to me, I don't know this fighting game
I really wanted to like UNI. I genuinely tried so many times but I just couldn't do it.
>>736384483Understandable. It's a terrible game.
>>736384483i think its fun but thats only because i really like byakuya. i don't fuck with any of the other characters except yuzuriha and thats only because i think she's one of the best fight game girl designs of all time on the level of chun li or mai
>>736384624>>736384696I loved yuzu but god she's just so tedious to play. It just feels like I was mental stacking myself playing her. I really liked orie though.
>>736384246It's a martial arts tournament between waitresses who represent different restaurants. The winner earns the title of the strongest waitress while the losers you beat have to strip and get publicly humiliated. It's a high stakes tournament.Advanced V.G. 2 plays like a Street Fighter game.
Grinding for the hiking boots in the fight pass.
>>736384973you get fight pass points really fast in world tour
Everything about granblue is just so good. The visuals, music, extra content, pretty girls and even the dumb little mini games. But then you get to the gameplay and it's just boring...
>>736386107I think the gameplay is fun and I don't mind it being repetitive or not that varied.However, it's balanced like an absolute turd and to an infuriating level too.
>>736386290I played it for about 60 hours when it first came out but I felt like that was about as much enjoyment as I was ever going to get from the game. It's just all too samey.
heck yeah! vane with the clutch!
>>736385314Thanks. I'll try it now.
>>736386418Good choice. The game is just a random masher at higher levels.
>>736386590How would you know?
>>736386879You're right, I'm a scrub at GM, and I'm not even being ironic, GM is still baby shit.
Surely there's a second game in the works...
>>736381176Why isn't he sitting in the pot serving it with his armpit saar?
>>736384918show me some cool combos YOU made
>>736388319I don't have any. I'm not some pro, just a VG enjoyer.
>>736374821Anime character exclusively liked by pajeets.
>>736374416>What are ya playin?Just got a mayflash f500 v2 as my first stick and I'm using tekken 8 as practice getting used to it. Probably gonna get back into strive for a bit when Jam dropsMy normal game is under night, but I know my ego will just piss me off relearning how to crawl in a game I know I can at least walk in already.
No I hate fighting gamesOnly niggers, trannies and spics play them
What is your honest opinion about Dizzy?Queen version or otherwise
>>736389134Whatever helps you cope buddy, protecting one's ego is important.
>>736389169This character is an abomination. Knocks you down and the game is over.
>>736374416>>736374821Playing through pic-related right now after hearing it's the black sheep of the SNK crossovers doesn't seem THAT bad honestly only issue is Zero have an horrible moveset
>>736374416>>736374821>>736389586Sorry guys drunk
>>736374416The only one I play is Granblue, I tried Strive but I couldn't get into it, I've been wondering if I should get SF6 even if the game is ugly as sin, but at this point I guess I should wait for a year 1+2+3 bundle.
>>736389618Now that's something I hadn't seen in a while...
>>736389652svc chaos just feels really weird to play. it does have the coolest sagat art of all time though
Im playing street fighter 5 because 6 ruined my wife cammy so badly
>>736390427They really did, huhI can't care about the new girls being horrible golems, who gives a shit? But what they did to Cammy and Chun-li is a fucking travesty.
>>736390384He looks like Tyrant.
>>736389169To me, the fact Queen Dizzy can optimize for time spent in combos/blockstrings to get WOL pop is more interesting than just running character-specific degenerate mixups on knockdownsI think she's underrated and people keep saying dumb shit about her, like pretending she gets no mix, or that her neutral is complete trashI just hope they give her a natural way to combo into throw in 2.0, because right now she relies on Wild Assault for it
>>736389586>ZeroTop 2 btw
>>736391486>dizzy wears a burqa nowThe next holocaust cant come soon enough.
>>736388319I'll post some weird tech, I can post a combo later but I'm pretty bad at the game.
>>736383132No, because he's still holding the bat.
>>736391767nice, please do
>>736391734Dont worry she is getting an alternate costume soon. It's even more covered up
>>736391486God I love they actually had the balls to flat out remove WA, fuck heat, 66L and BC until I die. Look forward to seeing how they rework asuka and chaos.
>>736378913>Two gay men smashing their balls into each other.webm
>>736383132until there's a rule made to curb it, yes that would be legal.>>736391859that's not a rule, it's just what people do.
>>736374416Fightcade and SF6 only really, maybe some DBFZ here and now to keep the muscle memory for Tokon since they play almost the same
Should long reaching normals have decent block proximity?
>>736382387https://x.com/jiyunaJP/status/1666652999417200641
>>736392462Even if it got nerfed like mad, I'm glad they're removing it because it just favors almost everyone and doesn't really solve any issues, on top of looking very sameyBut I really think unless the compensation buffs are well thought, some characters will get the short end of the stick>Look forward to seeing how they rework asuka and chaos.HC I'm pretty sure they've killed him and I might actually be interested in playing him if he gets different portal configurations or something, never been big into the whole plus on whiff thing he had goingAsuka I'm kinda worried they might fuck it up and do something retarded like preventing him from cancelling spells into each other, I don't really think he needed a full rework but just some tuningI really like his staves tho, so if you get to play more with them I'm down>>736392957Fuck no, unless they're giga-minus on blockSF6 has some of the most dogshit atrocious block boxes I've ever seen, with midscreen range normals that have a huge block box on frame 2It makes the game feel sluggish and unfun, and it makes it annoying as hell to create opportunities to whiff punish
I have 5.6 hours in Virtua Fighter 5 and I have a win rate of 0.0% because I keep getting matched with people who have 800+ matches played compared to my 8. And I love it. I literally feel myself improving bit by bit.>that Pai kept ducking all my high kicks, I need to figure out my best mid options>that Vanessa's offense was overwhelming, I need to get better at defense>that Taka Arashi's low poking was too good, I need to figure out a counter to that, maybe one of my leaping moves?A few days back I struggled to clear arcade mode on easy, now I can comfortably do it on normal.
>>736393372the best way to improve is to just lose, people who don't realize this are the ones who get really mad at fighting games and blame systems, broken characters etc
>>736374416waiting for the next Tōkon trailer and Invincible VS next month.
>>736391734I wouldn't even mind that if her giant tits were still prominent like in some fan art.Clothed Breasts is one of my favorite tags.
>>736393364>SF6 has some of the most dogshit atrocious block boxes I've ever seen, with midscreen range normals that have a huge block box on frame 2It's funny considering how a couple characters got recent nerfs to moves like that (Ryu's Solar Plexus, Manon's standing heavy kick). There's probably some others straggling but I think it's something they're considering in the future.
>>736389169never got around to trying her in strive, they removed almost all of what I thought was cool about her gameplayI don't hate the design but necro and undine are huge downgrades and there's something about her animations I don't like
>>736393372VF5's online playerbase is mostly made up of veterans at this point, even just scoring a round when you're starting out is pretty decent. What do you think is giving you trouble the most?
>>736393464>Cammy as Captain MarvelEvery white bitch looks the same!
Play*cough* Play 2xko, it's fr*cough* fre*cough**cough* to play and it's fun*cough* and very active..... Yeah very act*COUGH**COUGH**COUGH*
>>736393880I would.I was curious about itUnfortunately, I was not "install kernel-level anti-cheat" curious about it
>>736393880Sajam...
>>736393880add malphite, alistar or singed and i will
Anyone playing the Combo Devils beta weekend?
>>736393456Yeah and I don't mind it. I do my best and experiment between rounds to find out what other things my character can do.>>736393850>What do you think is giving you trouble the most?There are a lot of options at any given moment and I find it a little rough to keep track of it all in the heat of it, plus I'm not really familiar with what the characters I've gone up against (Vanessa and Taka Arashi especially) can do. I think I just need more time to develop a sense for it.
>>736393880Has to be some kind of record for fastest dying fighting game that had some notability before release.
>>736394138hell no
i wish CVS2 had a playerbase like third strike. i really don't like that game but i'm forced to play it if i don't want to play a modern fighter
>>736394865Who's forcing you?
>>736393686They've been suspiciously selective about thisAlex's 5HP and 5HK both have block boxes on frame 2, no matter if you charge them or not (Zangief and Marisa's 5HPs lose their early block boxes if you begin charging them)Sagat's 6LK still has one, same with 2HP or 5HK but at least these are a little fasterTons of slides also have them but desu they're minus to punishable so it's mostly a matter of blocking lowAlso universally, Drive Impact has one and I often wish I could just walk out of it and get an unscaled, cheaper punish instead of having to counter DI
>>736394814$50 for the privilege of playing a fighting game with 4 characters is a tough sell lol
I'm playing RoA2, by which I mean I'm staring at 2 months of replays that I need to record before they're deprecated in 3 days when the zesty shark releases.Game's good.
Has anyone here dabbled in the Power Instinct series? If yes, what's the best game to start with? From what I have seen so far, most of the games look like they have interesting twists on mechanics established in most 2D fighting game series.
>>736395303does any damn game have version control so replays don't go bad every patch??
>>736392096Not the best combo you can do, not by a long shot, but yeah. Some normals chain into each others and you can chain even on whiff.
>>736378436>rts skill expressionI don't know what this means. Isn't it just whoever clicks out the most units wins?
>>736395540Technically RoA2 does, but the issue is that I'm sitting on replays from the 2 previous patches. You can opt into the previous version on Steam effortlessly, which lets you play deprecated replays.
>>736395674that looks pretty nice in motion, thank you, I might pick it up to play around any trash tier character to avoid?
>>736395954Manami, the cat themed maid is the only one to explicitly avoid, she's the only really bad character. That said, Tamao is a 50/50. She is good, but also very technical and relies on execution not only for combos but also movement to actually be good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jt1ehbRR3BAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Onavd8l-1-Qhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Yy96CLfZsUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjMmX3a-OUMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLpAIxHwwWAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btrP_2PhZqshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLFL_YQt_M8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHATNgQuUr4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAWFWJ2L5sEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJ8g-bZWNJY
>>736374416I will be playan Strive for 2.0 and Jam, Naruto Storm 4, Gundam EXVS2OB, some BBCF and some Granblue Rising.
>>736374416While waiting for the 2.0 update and Jam, gotta go grind Strive. I also be playin Tekken 8, COTW and some +R for now.
>>736396554duly noted, thank you anon!
>>736397120no you won't, faggot
>>736395523Matrimelee is the most popular one, but it's one of those games most people only play for a night or two with friends. It's only really worth playing for the humor and the music. Moving around feels clumsy and a lot of its characters lack tools, even the ones who weren't intended as jokes, so there isn't an insane amount of depth. The team behind it also worked on Rage of the Dragons, which is worth checking out, but it had different designers. Four RotD characters appear in Matrimelee as guests.Matsuri Senzo Kuyou, the final entry, is apparently way better, but there's zero way to play online beyond emulating it and using Parsec.
>>736384148SF6 also literally has an image of him in full military uniform, not the weird one from 5, and his arcade story has him genuinely considering becoming a fascist dictator.
>>736397762NTA isn't Matsuri on Teknoparrot?
