Why is gun smithy, electrical, and explosives powerful?
>fuel and a ragyou also need a glass bottle, that's the crucial part of a molotov cocktail. if the container isn't something that'll break and splash the fuel everywhere when you throw it, all you've made is an oil lamp.
>>736378420It's a video game
>>736378017>molotov cocktail>there's no molotov in that setting
>>736378575just make it out of a stick and holy water, then.
>>736378921>cocks have no tail in that setting either
>>736378017>Spend countless years studying magic >Get killed by some guy who learned one simple trick
>>736378420>>736379048They had to follow 2 rules, you can only have 2 materials due to the interface and to fall in line with the other recipes and the materials must be thematically related to what you are building, the improvement that could be done here is change the materials to fuel + empty glass bottle (I'm pretty sure there's even a trash item like that already), because if you think about, the rag is so simple you can assume someone would always have access to it.Good criticism actually.
>>736380240>an ancient evil awakens>is immediatelly cut down by automatic gun fire
>>736381480Military grade molotovs didn't have rags though. They had a cork and just a few matches tied to the side.
>>736378017>>736381776What game is this?
>>736381778The game doesn't aim to be a perfectly accurate military simulation, I think that would provide enough verisimilitude within its design scope.
>>736381839arcanumuncslop, tried it and dropped it after a few hours
>>736381839Arcanum. My favorite game.Be warned if you try it out, the combat is dogshit.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftvpi-6Z6qw
>>736381953>>736381964Duality of /v/
>>736381953>got filtered in a couple hours
>>736381778in order for that to work you need those big weatherproof matches that won't go out when thrown, that's way harder to get than either a rag or a glass bottle
>>736382189Realniggas use camping matches.
>>736378420You also have to make sure the rag soaks up and absorbs as much gas or oil as possible before using.
>>736382369As long as it's soaked from the point where it's lit to the actual vessel of fuel it's fine, it'll draw up fuel as needed by wicking action
/v/ - Terrorism
>>736382546nah this is kid's school molotov cocktail basics, we aren't even talking about how to make your own napalm yet
>Why are explosives powerful
>>736382679/k/ cooks something else in their kitchen. Mustard gas.
I love this game mechanically so much. Why can't we get more RPGs that allow such character building depth without adding a bunch of dogshit perks that barely do shit (skyrim)
>>736381776Why use the mechanized gun when you can get the lever action LMG you find from Capt Wheeler during the Orc factory uprising? It's kind of weird that Capt Wheeler is the only person who has that gun in all of arcanum
>>736381839Arcanum. If you like old school Fallout or CRPGs in general, it's really worth playing. The writing and story is also pretty great
>>736382796There's alchemists in the setting of Arcanum? How come magic characters can't craft potions? I always thought mages in the setting found their potions and enchanted gear in ruins or in the wild
>>736381953That's crazy. Arcanum and Fallout 1 are the only unc RPGs that I enjoyed enough to finish them.
>>736383595I think the implication is that the vendors make their own potions to sell, I don't know why players can't do it, guess they didn't want to make it similar to a tech player.
>>736383767Magic skills are entirely equipment free but you can't make any equipment. Tech skill are entirely reliant on equipment and you can make everything. A mage can't get himself decked in nice shit while a techie can get the whole party decked.
>>736384372All of this is balanced by the fact that a mage can just spam Harm and play the game like a glorified visual novel.
>>736384724Was this the greatest bakshi kino ever?
There sure have been a lot of Arcanum threads lately.I approve. I really gotta stop letting it rot in my backlog.
>>736384558Doesn't help that enemy mages can't cast for shit.
The Shape and The Stone
>>736384901If you play it, don't listen to others who tell you to go magic. Tech is much better for a first time playthrough
>>736378017A melee-magic character is actually the strongest build in the game. Plus you get teleportation which is a huge quality of life improvement.
Why am i see so many threads about arcanum all of a sudden was the rape island joke really that significant
>>736384978the problem is that you can easily get filtered if you don't know what you are doing, magic is easy mode at least
>>736383386I don't have it
Guys... I can't kill Donn Throgg. He's too handsome for me to do it.
>>736385190Convince him to riot. The result is HILARIOUS.
>>736383386Capt Wheeler only appears kinda late into the game. You can get the mechanized gun relatively early.>>736384923Cool bit of dwarf lore few know about.
>>736382189Just learn enough magic to light up the rag
>>736384897I really liked coonskin and his LotRs. What's this one, I haven't seen it?
There should be an Arcanum 'remake'. Where they don't change the art style or writing but make the combat not shit.
>>736378017Imagine wasting your life with this game, it literally just exists to waste your time. The game wasn't even fucking close to being finished at release for god sake.
>>736385679Wizards.
>>736382913Now that you mention that...
>>736388686>>736382913what kind of pussy dies to mustardI put that shit on my smokies, and that's in concentrated liquid form
>>736384724he better hope that one shot killed the lich because his luger failed to cycle and is now jammed
>>736389248it's chlorine gas.
>>736383386>lever action LMGthis annoys me
>>736386016It does anything but waste your time unlike most modern games that make you collect 50 of X or find all the guard towers or force some bullshit mission on you. Arcanum made me feel like exploration is actually worthwhile instead of the same copy and pasted trash we get nowadays. I liked some of the quests because they're actually well written and interesting
>>736390189Sorry I meant crank action LMG
>>736390204You're replying to an anon suffering from a mutation of BDS (Bethesda Derangement Syndrome) which causes them to rabidly sperg out against anything that is vaguely complex (like imsims and RTS games) unless it's a turn-based spreadsheet sim
>>736384372>>736378017>techie can get the whole party decked.Techs can deck anybody to the ground by just turning the content of any trashbin into molotovs and grenades.Also any boss can be date raped with one drop of this baby.
>>736381953>uncslopcowadooty kiddies will never be gamers
>>736391092I love the broken shit you can do in this game. It's kino.
>>736388686Where's the update on this?
>>736391092>description mentions completely wrong ingredients
>>736384558In a reversal of the usual trope, mages in Arcanum are immediatelly strong and tech is really weak, but with time and knowledge of the game, tech can become stronger.
>>736381776>>736396583>realtime combatdisgusting
>>736396821Why would you bother with TB combat for trash mobs?
>>736382796>alchemist with long cuffsjust imagine trying to make potions with a wizard's sleeve
>>736396821Turn based combat with an automatic weapon is beyond retarded, get out of this thread now
>>736396874maybe you wouldn't waste over a hundred bullets on a trash mob if you took the time to play strategically
>>736397347This
>>736397428bullets are literally free
>>736397492Elaborate. I got filtered by this when I tried a gun build as a kid.
>>736397271
>>736397546If you craft health and mana itens and sell to the trader you make a profit and can use that to buy saltpeter and you can get the coal from trashcans.
>>736397492there's no way you can scrounge enough bullet parts to replenish your stockpile if you spend 100+ on a single encounter>>736397546there's a schematic for bullets sold in gun shops
>>736394823I don't think there were ever any credible police reports about this incident, so I'm inclined to believe it was staged.
Does the way this game displays fantasy racism make anyone else uncomfortable?
>>736397787I only really use the automatic gun for the more resilient enemies that have a chance of killing me, the weaker ones get sniped or I use the elephant gun, also I go in the dungeon with extra bullets inside my companions inventories.
electrical is only really good for charged rings. gunsmithy and explosives and basically all tech disciplines are underpowered because they have you digging through trash and gobbling up your inventory capacity for the entire game just to do the same things magic does with no drawbacks.
>>736381776I like how it took 42 fucking bullets to kill that one enemy. in my last gunman playhrough I picked up the half ogre companion just to carry around ammo because all of the high tier guns burn through it so fast.
>>736381964Still one of the best main themes of all time, it's just a shame the rest of the soundtrack doesn't live up to it.
>>736398929it's kind of a miniboss
>>736398020Does dex do anything for guns when in realtime?
>>736401612rate of fire
>>736401612Dex is the single best stat you can have no matter your wepon, you can attack much faster and run fast enough to kite enemies.
>>736400919the only really difficult enemies I remember are ore golems. they break your melee weapons, resist magic, and they have max magic affinity so they make your guns malfunction.
>>736403120That's when you whip out the grenades I guess. Never had any issue gunning them down besides the cramped space. Dog also wreck them if he doesn't kill himself attacking them..
>>736403582unless you have super high tech affinity your gun will miss every shot that isn't a critical hit
>>736404148I probably do usually, unless that's some patch thing. Only ever played Arcanum from my CDs of it and never with that unofficial patch.
>>736396821Arcanum really, really, really wanted those Diablo fans. The worst thing about it is that the TB mode is even worse than the RT mode. It's a horrible game to actually play. Lots of fun ideas and concepts, but an awful game. Unironically, should have been RTwP. If you're gonna make it real time to desperately ape Diablo, you should at least give it a pause so players can at least try add some RPG tactics to their playstyle.But nope, it's either a shitty Diablo clone with mechanics that are 10x more complicated, or the worst Turn Based combat system you've ever seen.
>>736403120>ore golemsThese? The machinegun melts them too, but wastes too much ammo so I use Elephant gun since they are slow and really easy to kite.
>>736405812>Diablo with a good story and open worldThat's sounds amazing, why not?You wouldn't lose the building your character aspect or the storytelling and combat would be fun, it's fun to run around shooting shit anyway.>>736407618>>736403120forgot webm
>>736407618post your character page where it shows your tech affinity.
>>736407714why are you naked
>>736407809I can't now, I saved those from a previous run, but it was high as fuck, close to 90 probably.>>736408268A spider ate my clothes.
>>736397908It's one of the reasons I play it and why I think it's so refreshing compared to most modern fantasy games. Not having believable racism(gnome conspiracy, anti ogre/dwarf sentiment) ruins my immersion in a setting.
>>736408532>close to 90 probablythat's why you aren't missing. if you are following the story and go to black mountain mines as soon as you get the quest you will be closer to neutral even with a tech build.
>>736409789Those are not the BMC mines, there I used mostly molotovs since I didn't have these high level guns.
>>736403120>ore golemsDisintegrate counters them so hard. I sure hope they didn't have good loot though.
>>736409850isn't black mountain earlier than wheel clan? it's been years since I played the game, but I definitely remember ore golems being a wall if you don't spend forever doing other stuff before advancing the main quest.
>>736410309>isn't black mountain earlier than wheel clan?It's the opposite.The golems are realy tough and will block your progress if you don't know what you are doing, but I had a metric ton of explosives and the crafted fine revolver, still had to play it very carefully and slowly compared to after I got the top tier guns.
>>736384372>Magic skills are entirely equipment freeYou still need mana staves/daggers.
did you know that you don't really need to spend points in intelligence as a tech character?Just use the intellect potion and raise the tech skill you want, you'll need to drink a potion whenever you want to craft high level stuff, but it will save character points at the beginning to put into firearms instead.
>>736411285you can also use the stat boosting spells even with 100 tech aptitude
>>736411532oh yeah, the dex spell is easy to maintain and will always help in combat, 4 points for the cost of 1
It seems to be that the objectively best build for tech is to go for throwing, dex is a much better stat than perception, throwing weapons have infinite ammo and grenades are op, firearms build is expensive and takes a lot of effort to maintain.
>>736412002firearms are cooler though. there's no point going for tech at all unless you want to be cool.
>>736412034Grenades aren't cool?
>>736412002>dex is a much better stat than perceptionYou may as well max prowling and throw out of stealth at somewhat dangerous enemies. The biggest problem with tech throwing is the lack of a good weapon until you get one from the easter egg area.
>>736412420the best throwing weapons are the magic one and the aerial decapitator
>>736413043>and the aerial decapitatorThat one is cool
>>736398020why the hell are you naked?
