As a Catholic, should I join the Empire? They're obviously Romans, however, Stormcloacks believe in Thalos who is like a nord Jesus? Hmmm...
>>736379273Every time I play Skyrim I kill every redguard I encounter
the multiracial imperialists fits you best
>>736379273you should see the stormcloaks as the franks overtaking the former roman empires influence in the west
>>736379273As a catholic I don't self-insert my boring ass into a character and instead roleplay as a filthy stealth archer
>>736379273What are you playing as, queermo?
>>736379273both are pagans so neitherBut then again, you catholics worship the pope and not God
>>736379397That's not very Christian of you. Niggers are also sons of God through the Holy Spirit like you and me.
Talos isn't Nord Jesus, he's the God of the Empire.He was either Atmoran or a Breton anyway. Nords just claimed him as "their god" because he's the only human-god they remember since forgetting Shezarr.
>>736379451It's odd how Skyrim is more politically relevant today than it was back when it was released. The right-wing nationalists, which would represented by the Nords, have recently been subverted by the covetous jews and various other thirdie factions, and turned into subhuman, anti-white populists. And the Empire is, like you said, multiracial, or multicultural, so that's not a good alternative either.Just like in real life, there's no good faction to join.
>>736379550But isn't his cult banned in Skyrim? Sorry I barely know anything about TES lore.
>>736379669The Aldmeri Dominion (Thalmor) imposed a peace onto the Empire that banned the worship of Talos/Tiber Septim as one of "the Divines."The Empire has no choice but to honor the peace agreement as they are way more unready to fight another war against the Dominion, and Nords in Skyrim were whipped into a frenzy over this by men like Ulfric Stormcloak by pointing out how ELVES are telling MEN to stop worshipping the one human who actually became a god (for real).The result was the current civil war that Skyrim centers around. The Thalmor are watching from the sidelines as both their enemies get weaker fighting each other.
>>736379478The Stormcloaks would be more like Hårek or Tore Hund, but without the influence from the (((elves))).
>>736379273https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rf7ROU2_8UA
>>736379874i mean if the empire wasnt totally subverted by the elves they wouldnt be wasting manpower in skyrim anyways.>NOOOO STOP ATTACKING OUR COMMON ENEMY AND DO WHAT I SAY OR WE WILL KILL YOUThe empire is either subverted or toally retarded [ spoiler]or its just stupid writing[/spoiler]
>>736379273Just join one at randomThen join the other in your next playthroughWho cares
>>736380246ah fuck.
>>736379273as a catholic you shouldn't play a game with a fictional setting that features magic, demons, and demon worshipuninstall and confess to your priest
>>736380374I said Catholic no evangelical, sweetie.
>>736379273Join the Empire while continuing to worship Talos is the proper Christian response.
As an incel chud I seethe that there was no option to kill both sides. Do you fucking know who I am? I'm the dragonborn. Your petty little wars are beneath me so both of you should die.
>joining the empire when they were willing and about to chop your fucking head off for daring to cross state lines
>>736379273Titus Mede is a massive cuck. Hammerfell won its independence and Skyrim should do the same.
>>736379273You should join the people who didn't try to kill you ten minutes into the game.
>>736380587They offloaded that story path onto the DLC with Miraak, where you see what it is like for the Dragonborn to wish to rule in his own right.
>>736380451good catholics stopped their kids from reading harry potter for the same reason, sweetie
>>736380752>you see what it is like for the dragonborn to be dumb as fuck and pledge himself to a daedric prince
>>736379273Imperials are obviously Romans.Nords are obviously Vikings.Vikings had a short time when they were Catholic, true. But then what did they do? They became dirty Proddies. Go Imperial all the way. Just pretend the gods are akin to saints and you're good.
Is it silly that I reversed/cured my characters wearwolf powers as I wanted him to be able to go to Sovngarde?
You should join the Dawnguard
>>736381562No, I do the same and convince Vilkas and Farkas to do the same. If Aela wants to yiff for an eternity in Hircine's hunting grounds that's her business.
>>736381002>But then what did they do?They went out with their longships and killed the hell out a bunch of muslims. Look up Sigurd Jorsalfar.
>>736379273>As a Catholic
>>736382353Its Easter Weekend you faggot
>>736381562No, most of the time I can't justify my character joining the circle because because most people on Tamriel do not want to be turned into a daedra spawn and go to hell when they die. The fact Todd thought it was reasonable to give you a choice in Dawnguard whether or not you want to become an inhuman monster or fight them, but not in the main game is still bizarre to me. The Silver Hand should have basically been the other half of the fighter's guild, where you're forced to choose between the two sides. You even get introduced to them before becoming a werewolf and watch them get ripped to shreds by a monster while you can only sit and watch. Most people who don't worship daedra would be horrified and want all vampires and werewolves exterminated. The companions is the worst faction quest in Skyrim and it's not even close.
>>736379273the Empire in Skyrim is more like the Byzantines, getting their shit pushed in by a stronger rising empire (Muslims/Thalmor respectively).a strong northern ruler (Charlemagne/Ulfric) must take up the mantle of the west from the decrepit pretenders.
Literally doesnt matter.
>>736382582make sure to thank jesus for laying the eggs
>should I join the guys who tried to cut my head off?Depends. Have you suffered any severe brain injuries lately?
>>736381562When you already are a dragon on all levels except the physical, becoming a woof seems like a step down.
>>736382347I mean, that part was based. And true, it was Vikings who settled in the north of France who became Normans, who in turn solidified papal authority in England.Still, they went Protestant man. Even England went Protestant in the end. You're toying with heresy.
>>736379273Yes. For Catholicism is a universal religion as it's states in the name, and the Medes Empire is also universal. Fuck pagans fuck elves and fuck tamriel nativistists rebellion and movements! An Imperial boot over your fucking faces forever!
>>736382601>The thieves guild is the worst faction quest in Skyrim and it's not even close.I agree.
why bother? the civil war is lame everybody is miserable afterwards
>>736379668Nords (patriots) want to kill Altmer (jews)The choice is obvious.
>>736383451No, it isn't. You can justify the TG questline in-character. 90% of the time, it is impossible to justify becoming a werewolf. I actually care about roleplaying in my roleplaying video game and the companions questline presents an impassable barrier.
>>736379273If you want to spread the influence of Monotheist God, help the Skaal.
>>736380374Technically speaking, the Daedra are closer to fairies that LARP as demons.
>>736382601I though it was really funny that every guild (aside from DB) eventually boils down to "explore draugr crypts", except the one faction where it actually makes sense to descend into draugr crypts, that faction becomes werewolves instead. All of the guilds in Skyrim are their own unique kind of shitty, except the Dark Brotherhood, although they still suffer from making the player unnecessarily special.
>>736383651I haven't played this shit in over a decade, but wasn't the Nord leader being manipulated by the (((altmer)))?
Talos had an affair with an underaged dark elf and forced her to get an abortion
>>736384442No. The Thalmor benefit from the war so they consider him an asset. Obviously if the war ends things become different.
>>736384179No, the Daedra are creator beings that elected not to join their power with the Aedra to create Nirn, were eternally cast out of Nirn by the Aedra, and are eternally buttblasted about it, pretending they totally don't care while also tempting mortals to worship them as terrible or benevolent gods so they can peek into the fun mortal world.
>>736379273He's more like all of Man's Jesus, the Nords just refuse to renounce him. Imagine if the Catholic church told you to renounce Jesus because Zionists jews forced them to.
>>736384442The purpose of the Thalmor dossier was to make it clear>the elves have zero clue what is going on and literally think Alduin is controlled by another set of glownigger jews that also wants the war to continue>they benefit from the war continuing, but it's even explicitly stated that a Stormcloak victory would be bad for them
>>736379273Nordic Jesus? That's Protestantism.
>>736384442> Did the jewish faction manipulate someone in an underhanded and deceitful manner?Duh
>>736379273Why would you ever ever joint the team that tried to kill you? That's the dumbest shit I ever heard, the fate of skyrim isn't as important as revenge.None of you would be John Wick. You'd just cry and bury the puppy. You're all pussies.
>>736379273>They're obviously Romans,You mean like Catholicism?
>>736385924I had it coming.
>>736386125Wuss. I could never have it coming and whoever tried would be doing me wrong and bringing hell upon themselves.
>>736379273As a Catholic you shouldn't play this demonic game
>>736386196Nah, I deserved it, and the coming of Alduin and destruction of Helgen offered me a second chance and new purpose. The old Me died in Helgen, and out of dragonfire a new me was born. The Dragonborn. It is as Talos willed it. First the Empire will be restored. Then Talos will be restored.
>>736379273The Empire as of Skyrim are cucked and shitty, Tiber Septim himself predicted it back in Morrowind.
>>736385693Neither the Bretons nor the Redguards give a fuck about him (and neither did the Nords before TES V)
>>736379273Thalos was a human who became a god, Jesus was God in human form, walking earth.
>>736379273you join the stormcloaks and restore hyperborean in skyrim
>>736386891Jesus = Pelinal Whitestrake.
>All these attempts at allegory when actual God exists in TES as a background character.
>>736386891Dragonborn are gods in human form
>>736387462According to Kirkbride the All-Maker is just Sithis/Padomay
The gods in TES are more like the pagan gods of the pre-Christian world. Talos is more like a hero of the pagans who would sometimes be deified or have some kind of partial divinity which is what a lot of the dragon lore in TES is about.
>>736387572That's not as fun as the alternative of a Monad stumbling onto Mundus incidentally and being flattered by bootlegs of Their creation.
talos is more like a nord buddha
>>736379273Just play Goat Simulator 3.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsdcERt9gl0
>>736379273yeah join the empire and pray in the chapel you jew worshipping cuck, good goy from the desert, unless you're a negroe which you probably are in that case your life is torture enoughSKYRIM BELONGS TO THE NORDSNORDIC PEOPLE HEIL TO ODIN, THE AESERIC AND THE VANIR GODS.HEILL ÓÐINN!HEILL ÆSIR!HEILL SHOR!
>>736379273Yea join the empire. Go to Darius in Madach Tradehouse in Gnisis
>>736380904Considering how most Harry Potter fans are all gay, trans, woke, or into pagan magic and shit now, I'd say those catholics dodged the bullet
>>736382264Heard they're reforming. In the old fort, near Riften. Might consider joining up myself. (Instantly betrays them after one quest to become a vampire lord instead)
>>736383451I love how the lady I beat to join the guild becomes my boss at one point
>>736386709Stop right there, criminal scum, nobody breaks, the empire in Oblivion on my watch.
>>736385924You were captured fair and square in the act of illegally crossing the border.The Empire doesn't have time to hold your hand and send you to a processing center where you'll be called back in several months to see a judge and make your case as to why you should be allowed to be in the area. The real world shouldn't work like that and neither does the Empire.You have it coming. The Imperials are gracious enough to waive the sentence on account of the dragon attack. And this is how you thank them.
Talos is more important than the beurocratic Empire, their divine right died with Martin
>>736385924From imperial pov, they think the beheading scene in the intro is just to throw off the player into thinking the stormcloaks are good. In reality, both sides fight for what they believe in, but the empire fights to keep the peace and unity. Stormcloaks victory would leave the empire weaker and cut off its supply lines from high rock, making them easy prey for the thalmor 2nd war. In other words: are you really so petty that you'd allow your execution to prevent you from joining the side that wants to prevent that 2nd war (or at least keep the peace a bit longer while having the empire united)?For me, the answer is yes. I am that petty. I'd let the empire crumble just to get back at that one captain who ordered my execution without fair judgement. I even kept her helmet as a momento. Now if you excuse me, I have a nord rebellion you join.
>>736386208Or OP could play it as a catholic who chooses not to use magic at all, not to do any daedric quest, and just role play as a based paladin, no healing, no thieving, just use maces and potions. Bonus points for no killing. Spiffing brit made a video about recently.
>>736387023Pelinal was a cyborg from the future (in theory), so not even close. If anything, talos is like Alexander the great who became so well known, the gods made him one of their own.
>>736379513He's just sending them to meet God personally, anon.
>>736379273Bethesda writing is so bad you really shouldn't try to draw any parallels with real life
>>736379668The Nords however have a stronger argument for leaving a dying empire than sticking with it and having their religious beliefs suppressed and their cultural identity destroyed by foreign powers that don't care and only have concerns with the tax revenue the nation generates. The Mede dynasty lost all legitimacy when they accepted the White-Gold Concordat and gave up the Empires sovereignty to a foreign power. Skyrim is not obliged to stay and has every right to simply leave like Blackmarsh and Hammerfell did. The Empire no longer can defend its own citizens and in fact is selling them out to the Aldmeri Dominion, which gives Skyrim even more reason to break away as well.
>>736393051This Jewsus was a beggar kike
>>736393051Pelinal was an aedric spirit, and a particularly zealous one at that. Whether he was from the future, or time in Oblivion is not as linear as it is in Nirn is another matter.
>>736393259Well, I'm Norwegian, and we never joined the EU.
>>736379273>>736392927https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GUqJQF-1NFw&pp=ygUUc3BpZmZpbmcgYnJpdCBza3lyaW0%3D
>>736379273it doesn't matter because TES is closer to hinduism and gnosticism than christianity>>736393051>pelinal was le cyborgget the fuck out with this stupid reddit theory, the only thing that was from the future was his armor
>>736379273God is not directly represented in this game, he's not written in it.If he want to speak to you thru the game, it's not by the story, but things that happen by accident, things generated by the RNG, things generated because you pressed the key on frame X instead of Y.Stop listening to the text humans wrote, pay attention to the minute details.
>>736379273Talos is not Nord Jesus, he is far closer to a literal antichrist.The most prominent feature of Talos is that he managed to defeat everyone entirely through planning and treachery, he is genius in a sense and a true strategist but Hjalti was not a virtuous person. Wulfharth was a seething murderhobo and Zurin was morally dubious wizard as well so.You have to understand who Talos is ultimately replacing, Lorkhan, the trickster God.
>>736394002>reddit theoryThe guy who wrote the Pelinal books has himself stated that Pelinal being a cyborg/robot was exactly what he was going for thoughYou may not like it, you may say it's technically not canon because it wasn't confirmed in-game, but it is, objectively, not just a theory
>>736392174esl
>>736379273Stormcloaks seems to be the canon choice, since the game has you basically play a reincarnation of Ysmir Wulfhearth
>>736387467But they aren't God (capital G).They are at best gods. By "at best" I mean depending on who you ask and what their arbitrary power-threshhold is that defines a god for them. Are you a god if you can shout a goat off a cliff? Are you a god if you possess artifacts that give you godlike powers? When is a power to be considered "godlike"? God is not arbitrary. He is the definitve creator and ruler of everything. He has true omnipotence. Not "omnipotent" in the sense that he is really powerful compared to humans, but can still be challenged by other gods/demons/monsters. God can do literally anything. Create things from nothing with a mere thought, or delete them, including lesser """"gods"""". He defines the rules of the universe and can change them at a whim if he so desires. That is the christian God, and because of that, Jesus is in a league of his own, Talos doesn't compare. Talos is a human playing God, Jesus actual God playing human.
>>736379273They are both pagans.
>>736395897Sometimes I struggle to understand why in some off topic religious thread Christians don’t seem to understand what omnipotence and omniscience mean and then I enter a thread and one is unironically fucking power scaling their God with video game characters
Isn't Catholicism pretty pagan itself? Just look at its holidays.
>>736380587Based Itsovahkiin roleplayer
>>736396046One of the reasons why Christianity and Islam were so effective in spreading was that they did not seek to replace local culture and religion, but rather to complement them. Basically it was simply a case of "Everything you believed is true, but it’s not a whole host of gods, but one God". So lots of Christian and Muslim religious traditions actually stem from pagan traditions.
>>736380246>NOOOO STOP ATTACKING OUR COMMON ENEMY AND DO WHAT I SAY OR WE WILL KILL YOUThe stormcloaks target everything but the thalmor embassy
>>736394249Exactly.It should be added that Talos rose from being a man to being a god.Jesus, on the other hand, is God who becomes man.Talos was a worldly emperor.Jesus was a carpenter.Talos ruled in a sinful world.Jesus died to free you from your sins.The two are exact opposites.
>>736393051Why do people keep parroting the "he was a cyborg with a laser beam" thing when every other person in Tamriel can "shoot lasers" (aka use magic) and a key part of every single in universe written work about anything divine ever is that its full of embellishment and misinformation (intentional or not) from stories constantly being retold over countless generationsThere are stories in Akkadian from ancient mesopotamia about how the Sumerians "walked out of the water and brought with them culture and civilization" but we don't call them alien mermaids
Performative Catholics are more obnoxious than atheists ever were.
Wasn't actual God once worshiped in the Empire and the state religion before His worshipers threw a fit against elves and got whittled away by their bone-headed wars? The only possible connection He has left to Tamriel are the Skaal, though some say they're just worshiping Akatosh or Padomay.
>>736397317Because, like >>736395030 said, the writer who wrote the in-game books nearly all information about Pelinal is from has directly stated that he was indeed specifically trying to imply that Pelinal is a robot from the future when he wrote about him having a laser hand, a chest that could be opened, and "armor from the future time".
>>736397751The one God worshipped by the Alessian Order was just a monotheistic interpretation of Akatosh, not some mysterious supreme being
