As a Catholic, should I join the Empire? They're obviously Romans, however, Stormcloacks believe in Thalos who is like a nord Jesus? Hmmm...
>>736379273Every time I play Skyrim I kill every redguard I encounter
the multiracial imperialists fits you best
>>736379273you should see the stormcloaks as the franks overtaking the former roman empires influence in the west
>>736379273As a catholic I don't self-insert my boring ass into a character and instead roleplay as a filthy stealth archer
>>736379273What are you playing as, queermo?
>>736379273both are pagans so neitherBut then again, you catholics worship the pope and not God
>>736379397That's not very Christian of you. Niggers are also sons of God through the Holy Spirit like you and me.
Talos isn't Nord Jesus, he's the God of the Empire.He was either Atmoran or a Breton anyway. Nords just claimed him as "their god" because he's the only human-god they remember since forgetting Shezarr.
>>736379451It's odd how Skyrim is more politically relevant today than it was back when it was released. The right-wing nationalists, which would represented by the Nords, have recently been subverted by the covetous jews and various other thirdie factions, and turned into subhuman, anti-white populists. And the Empire is, like you said, multiracial, or multicultural, so that's not a good alternative either.Just like in real life, there's no good faction to join.
>>736379550But isn't his cult banned in Skyrim? Sorry I barely know anything about TES lore.
>>736379669The Aldmeri Dominion (Thalmor) imposed a peace onto the Empire that banned the worship of Talos/Tiber Septim as one of "the Divines."The Empire has no choice but to honor the peace agreement as they are way more unready to fight another war against the Dominion, and Nords in Skyrim were whipped into a frenzy over this by men like Ulfric Stormcloak by pointing out how ELVES are telling MEN to stop worshipping the one human who actually became a god (for real).The result was the current civil war that Skyrim centers around. The Thalmor are watching from the sidelines as both their enemies get weaker fighting each other.
>>736379478The Stormcloaks would be more like Hårek or Tore Hund, but without the influence from the (((elves))).
>>736379273https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rf7ROU2_8UA
>>736379874i mean if the empire wasnt totally subverted by the elves they wouldnt be wasting manpower in skyrim anyways.>NOOOO STOP ATTACKING OUR COMMON ENEMY AND DO WHAT I SAY OR WE WILL KILL YOUThe empire is either subverted or toally retarded [ spoiler]or its just stupid writing[/spoiler]
>>736379273Just join one at randomThen join the other in your next playthroughWho cares
>>736380246ah fuck.
>>736379273as a catholic you shouldn't play a game with a fictional setting that features magic, demons, and demon worshipuninstall and confess to your priest
>>736380374I said Catholic no evangelical, sweetie.
>>736379273Join the Empire while continuing to worship Talos is the proper Christian response.
As an incel chud I seethe that there was no option to kill both sides. Do you fucking know who I am? I'm the dragonborn. Your petty little wars are beneath me so both of you should die.
>joining the empire when they were willing and about to chop your fucking head off for daring to cross state lines
>>736379273Titus Mede is a massive cuck. Hammerfell won its independence and Skyrim should do the same.
>>736379273You should join the people who didn't try to kill you ten minutes into the game.
>>736380587They offloaded that story path onto the DLC with Miraak, where you see what it is like for the Dragonborn to wish to rule in his own right.
>>736380451good catholics stopped their kids from reading harry potter for the same reason, sweetie
>>736380752>you see what it is like for the dragonborn to be dumb as fuck and pledge himself to a daedric prince
>>736379273Imperials are obviously Romans.Nords are obviously Vikings.Vikings had a short time when they were Catholic, true. But then what did they do? They became dirty Proddies. Go Imperial all the way. Just pretend the gods are akin to saints and you're good.
Is it silly that I reversed/cured my characters wearwolf powers as I wanted him to be able to go to Sovngarde?
You should join the Dawnguard
>>736381562No, I do the same and convince Vilkas and Farkas to do the same. If Aela wants to yiff for an eternity in Hircine's hunting grounds that's her business.
>>736381002>But then what did they do?They went out with their longships and killed the hell out a bunch of muslims. Look up Sigurd Jorsalfar.
>>736379273>As a Catholic
>>736382353Its Easter Weekend you faggot
>>736381562No, most of the time I can't justify my character joining the circle because because most people on Tamriel do not want to be turned into a daedra spawn and go to hell when they die. The fact Todd thought it was reasonable to give you a choice in Dawnguard whether or not you want to become an inhuman monster or fight them, but not in the main game is still bizarre to me. The Silver Hand should have basically been the other half of the fighter's guild, where you're forced to choose between the two sides. You even get introduced to them before becoming a werewolf and watch them get ripped to shreds by a monster while you can only sit and watch. Most people who don't worship daedra would be horrified and want all vampires and werewolves exterminated. The companions is the worst faction quest in Skyrim and it's not even close.
>>736379273the Empire in Skyrim is more like the Byzantines, getting their shit pushed in by a stronger rising empire (Muslims/Thalmor respectively).a strong northern ruler (Charlemagne/Ulfric) must take up the mantle of the west from the decrepit pretenders.
Literally doesnt matter.
>>736382582make sure to thank jesus for laying the eggs
>should I join the guys who tried to cut my head off?Depends. Have you suffered any severe brain injuries lately?
>>736381562When you already are a dragon on all levels except the physical, becoming a woof seems like a step down.
>>736382347I mean, that part was based. And true, it was Vikings who settled in the north of France who became Normans, who in turn solidified papal authority in England.Still, they went Protestant man. Even England went Protestant in the end. You're toying with heresy.
>>736379273Yes. For Catholicism is a universal religion as it's states in the name, and the Medes Empire is also universal. Fuck pagans fuck elves and fuck tamriel nativistists rebellion and movements! An Imperial boot over your fucking faces forever!
>>736382601>The thieves guild is the worst faction quest in Skyrim and it's not even close.I agree.
why bother? the civil war is lame everybody is miserable afterwards
>>736379668Nords (patriots) want to kill Altmer (jews)The choice is obvious.
>>736383451No, it isn't. You can justify the TG questline in-character. 90% of the time, it is impossible to justify becoming a werewolf. I actually care about roleplaying in my roleplaying video game and the companions questline presents an impassable barrier.
>>736379273If you want to spread the influence of Monotheist God, help the Skaal.
>>736380374Technically speaking, the Daedra are closer to fairies that LARP as demons.
>>736382601I though it was really funny that every guild (aside from DB) eventually boils down to "explore draugr crypts", except the one faction where it actually makes sense to descend into draugr crypts, that faction becomes werewolves instead. All of the guilds in Skyrim are their own unique kind of shitty, except the Dark Brotherhood, although they still suffer from making the player unnecessarily special.
>>736383651I haven't played this shit in over a decade, but wasn't the Nord leader being manipulated by the (((altmer)))?
Talos had an affair with an underaged dark elf and forced her to get an abortion
>>736384442No. The Thalmor benefit from the war so they consider him an asset. Obviously if the war ends things become different.
>>736384179No, the Daedra are creator beings that elected not to join their power with the Aedra to create Nirn, were eternally cast out of Nirn by the Aedra, and are eternally buttblasted about it, pretending they totally don't care while also tempting mortals to worship them as terrible or benevolent gods so they can peek into the fun mortal world.
>>736379273He's more like all of Man's Jesus, the Nords just refuse to renounce him. Imagine if the Catholic church told you to renounce Jesus because Zionists jews forced them to.
>>736384442The purpose of the Thalmor dossier was to make it clear>the elves have zero clue what is going on and literally think Alduin is controlled by another set of glownigger jews that also wants the war to continue>they benefit from the war continuing, but it's even explicitly stated that a Stormcloak victory would be bad for them
>>736379273Nordic Jesus? That's Protestantism.
>>736384442> Did the jewish faction manipulate someone in an underhanded and deceitful manner?Duh
>>736379273Why would you ever ever joint the team that tried to kill you? That's the dumbest shit I ever heard, the fate of skyrim isn't as important as revenge.None of you would be John Wick. You'd just cry and bury the puppy. You're all pussies.
>>736379273>They're obviously Romans,You mean like Catholicism?
>>736385924I had it coming.
>>736386125Wuss. I could never have it coming and whoever tried would be doing me wrong and bringing hell upon themselves.
>>736379273As a Catholic you shouldn't play this demonic game
>>736386196Nah, I deserved it, and the coming of Alduin and destruction of Helgen offered me a second chance and new purpose. The old Me died in Helgen, and out of dragonfire a new me was born. The Dragonborn. It is as Talos willed it. First the Empire will be restored. Then Talos will be restored.
>>736379273The Empire as of Skyrim are cucked and shitty, Tiber Septim himself predicted it back in Morrowind.
>>736385693Neither the Bretons nor the Redguards give a fuck about him (and neither did the Nords before TES V)
>>736379273Thalos was a human who became a god, Jesus was God in human form, walking earth.
>>736379273you join the stormcloaks and restore hyperborean in skyrim
>>736386891Jesus = Pelinal Whitestrake.
>All these attempts at allegory when actual God exists in TES as a background character.
>>736386891Dragonborn are gods in human form
>>736387462According to Kirkbride the All-Maker is just Sithis/Padomay
The gods in TES are more like the pagan gods of the pre-Christian world. Talos is more like a hero of the pagans who would sometimes be deified or have some kind of partial divinity which is what a lot of the dragon lore in TES is about.
>>736387572That's not as fun as the alternative of a Monad stumbling onto Mundus incidentally and being flattered by bootlegs of Their creation.
talos is more like a nord buddha
>>736379273Just play Goat Simulator 3.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsdcERt9gl0
>>736379273yeah join the empire and pray in the chapel you jew worshipping cuck, good goy from the desert, unless you're a negroe which you probably are in that case your life is torture enoughSKYRIM BELONGS TO THE NORDSNORDIC PEOPLE HEIL TO ODIN, THE AESERIC AND THE VANIR GODS.HEILL ÓÐINN!HEILL ÆSIR!HEILL SHOR!
>>736379273Yea join the empire. Go to Darius in Madach Tradehouse in Gnisis
>>736380904Considering how most Harry Potter fans are all gay, trans, woke, or into pagan magic and shit now, I'd say those catholics dodged the bullet
>>736382264Heard they're reforming. In the old fort, near Riften. Might consider joining up myself. (Instantly betrays them after one quest to become a vampire lord instead)
>>736383451I love how the lady I beat to join the guild becomes my boss at one point
>>736386709Stop right there, criminal scum, nobody breaks, the empire in Oblivion on my watch.
>>736385924You were captured fair and square in the act of illegally crossing the border.The Empire doesn't have time to hold your hand and send you to a processing center where you'll be called back in several months to see a judge and make your case as to why you should be allowed to be in the area. The real world shouldn't work like that and neither does the Empire.You have it coming. The Imperials are gracious enough to waive the sentence on account of the dragon attack. And this is how you thank them.
Talos is more important than the beurocratic Empire, their divine right died with Martin
>>736385924From imperial pov, they think the beheading scene in the intro is just to throw off the player into thinking the stormcloaks are good. In reality, both sides fight for what they believe in, but the empire fights to keep the peace and unity. Stormcloaks victory would leave the empire weaker and cut off its supply lines from high rock, making them easy prey for the thalmor 2nd war. In other words: are you really so petty that you'd allow your execution to prevent you from joining the side that wants to prevent that 2nd war (or at least keep the peace a bit longer while having the empire united)?For me, the answer is yes. I am that petty. I'd let the empire crumble just to get back at that one captain who ordered my execution without fair judgement. I even kept her helmet as a momento. Now if you excuse me, I have a nord rebellion you join.
>>736386208Or OP could play it as a catholic who chooses not to use magic at all, not to do any daedric quest, and just role play as a based paladin, no healing, no thieving, just use maces and potions. Bonus points for no killing. Spiffing brit made a video about recently.
>>736387023Pelinal was a cyborg from the future (in theory), so not even close. If anything, talos is like Alexander the great who became so well known, the gods made him one of their own.
>>736379513He's just sending them to meet God personally, anon.
>>736379273Bethesda writing is so bad you really shouldn't try to draw any parallels with real life
>>736379668The Nords however have a stronger argument for leaving a dying empire than sticking with it and having their religious beliefs suppressed and their cultural identity destroyed by foreign powers that don't care and only have concerns with the tax revenue the nation generates. The Mede dynasty lost all legitimacy when they accepted the White-Gold Concordat and gave up the Empires sovereignty to a foreign power. Skyrim is not obliged to stay and has every right to simply leave like Blackmarsh and Hammerfell did. The Empire no longer can defend its own citizens and in fact is selling them out to the Aldmeri Dominion, which gives Skyrim even more reason to break away as well.
>>736393051This Jewsus was a beggar kike
>>736393051Pelinal was an aedric spirit, and a particularly zealous one at that. Whether he was from the future, or time in Oblivion is not as linear as it is in Nirn is another matter.
>>736393259Well, I'm Norwegian, and we never joined the EU.
>>736379273>>736392927https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GUqJQF-1NFw&pp=ygUUc3BpZmZpbmcgYnJpdCBza3lyaW0%3D
>>736379273it doesn't matter because TES is closer to hinduism and gnosticism than christianity>>736393051>pelinal was le cyborgget the fuck out with this stupid reddit theory, the only thing that was from the future was his armor
>>736379273God is not directly represented in this game, he's not written in it.If he want to speak to you thru the game, it's not by the story, but things that happen by accident, things generated by the RNG, things generated because you pressed the key on frame X instead of Y.Stop listening to the text humans wrote, pay attention to the minute details.
>>736379273Talos is not Nord Jesus, he is far closer to a literal antichrist.The most prominent feature of Talos is that he managed to defeat everyone entirely through planning and treachery, he is genius in a sense and a true strategist but Hjalti was not a virtuous person. Wulfharth was a seething murderhobo and Zurin was morally dubious wizard as well so.You have to understand who Talos is ultimately replacing, Lorkhan, the trickster God.
>>736394002>reddit theoryThe guy who wrote the Pelinal books has himself stated that Pelinal being a cyborg/robot was exactly what he was going for thoughYou may not like it, you may say it's technically not canon because it wasn't confirmed in-game, but it is, objectively, not just a theory
>>736392174esl
>>736379273Stormcloaks seems to be the canon choice, since the game has you basically play a reincarnation of Ysmir Wulfhearth
>>736387467But they aren't God (capital G).They are at best gods. By "at best" I mean depending on who you ask and what their arbitrary power-threshhold is that defines a god for them. Are you a god if you can shout a goat off a cliff? Are you a god if you possess artifacts that give you godlike powers? When is a power to be considered "godlike"? God is not arbitrary. He is the definitve creator and ruler of everything. He has true omnipotence. Not "omnipotent" in the sense that he is really powerful compared to humans, but can still be challenged by other gods/demons/monsters. God can do literally anything. Create things from nothing with a mere thought, or delete them, including lesser """"gods"""". He defines the rules of the universe and can change them at a whim if he so desires. That is the christian God, and because of that, Jesus is in a league of his own, Talos doesn't compare. Talos is a human playing God, Jesus actual God playing human.
>>736379273They are both pagans.
>>736395897Sometimes I struggle to understand why in some off topic religious thread Christians don’t seem to understand what omnipotence and omniscience mean and then I enter a thread and one is unironically fucking power scaling their God with video game characters
Isn't Catholicism pretty pagan itself? Just look at its holidays.
>>736380587Based Itsovahkiin roleplayer
>>736396046One of the reasons why Christianity and Islam were so effective in spreading was that they did not seek to replace local culture and religion, but rather to complement them. Basically it was simply a case of "Everything you believed is true, but it’s not a whole host of gods, but one God". So lots of Christian and Muslim religious traditions actually stem from pagan traditions.
>>736380246>NOOOO STOP ATTACKING OUR COMMON ENEMY AND DO WHAT I SAY OR WE WILL KILL YOUThe stormcloaks target everything but the thalmor embassy
>>736394249Exactly.It should be added that Talos rose from being a man to being a god.Jesus, on the other hand, is God who becomes man.Talos was a worldly emperor.Jesus was a carpenter.Talos ruled in a sinful world.Jesus died to free you from your sins.The two are exact opposites.
>>736393051Why do people keep parroting the "he was a cyborg with a laser beam" thing when every other person in Tamriel can "shoot lasers" (aka use magic) and a key part of every single in universe written work about anything divine ever is that its full of embellishment and misinformation (intentional or not) from stories constantly being retold over countless generationsThere are stories in Akkadian from ancient mesopotamia about how the Sumerians "walked out of the water and brought with them culture and civilization" but we don't call them alien mermaids
Performative Catholics are more obnoxious than atheists ever were.
Wasn't actual God once worshiped in the Empire and the state religion before His worshipers threw a fit against elves and got whittled away by their bone-headed wars? The only possible connection He has left to Tamriel are the Skaal, though some say they're just worshiping Akatosh or Padomay.
>>736397317Because, like >>736395030 said, the writer who wrote the in-game books nearly all information about Pelinal is from has directly stated that he was indeed specifically trying to imply that Pelinal is a robot from the future when he wrote about him having a laser hand, a chest that could be opened, and "armor from the future time".
>>736397751The one God worshipped by the Alessian Order was just a monotheistic interpretation of Akatosh, not some mysterious supreme being
>>736379273Let's be honest, Catholics shouldn't play videogames.
>>736396325What are you even talking about bro, it's literally the opposite. In both Christianity and Islam it was>everything you believed in was false, I'll destroy your altars and sacred places to prove it as I won't be struck down by your "gods". Now follow the one and only God who allows me to destroy your idols unharmed
>>736397351The atheists who won't stop whining about muh tradcath larpers are even more obnoxious.
>>736397849I dunno, one day you think you're worshiping El and his family, yet the very next this compelling voice you-kind-of-but-aren't-certain is him tells you your interpretation of things is all wrong and you should upheave how your society functions and get really defensive over semantics.
>>736379273Imperials are literal roman hedonists bro, afaik all the races in tes worship multitheist religions. You'd have to join up with the dark brotherhood or a deadric prince to get a monotheist religion rp going.
>>736379273>catholicno magic except restorationno alchemy, only food is alloweddepending on how far you want to go, no alcohol or meat allowedno poison because it is unholyno shrine or standing stone buffs because they are paganno daedric weapons. no dwemer or ancient nord weapons and armor because it is unwise to sully the deadAm I forgetting other things that will make baby Jesus and Mohammad cry?
>>736398947>no alchemy, only food is allowedNo meat on Fredas.
>>736379273OP this game is demonic and you should stay far away from it. Also don't you have better things to do?
>>736398779That didn't happen tho, the only thing that's ever said about the origin of the Alessian Order is that it was founded by an Imga monkey man who for whatever reason really loved Alessia and hated elves and all we're told about their relationship with their god beyond believing him to be the only God is that they ritually tortured him in an attempt to make him not an elf anymore
>>736399248Where does this even come from? Didn't Faust get created in the environment of Catholicism? Granted, I think it was specifically around the Reformation and has a lot of Lutheran aspects.Making a deal with the devil comes directly from Christian culture itself.
>>736379273Who would jesus be in elder scrolls? Trinimac/malacath?
>Escape Helgen with Hadvar>Join Stormcloaks>Deliver the Jagged Crown to Tullius>(Re)establish Imperial control of Skyrim>Assassinate Ulfric>Assassinate Titus Mede II>Murder all Thalmor>Murder all worshippers of Talos>Ignore Gay Beards, Paarthurnax, Delphine, and shouting in general>Betray/Refuse all Daedric cunts and their trinkets>Ignore all prospects of ambiguous afterlifes and the paltry subjects that command themWhat is a man who sells his freedom, his will, his very existence to another's end? What is a mother who bears naught but slaves? Convenience of conformity is a pleasure none will afford in my new empire.
>>736399473No Jesus figure has arisen in Tamriel yet, though the Nerevarine has a vague thematic inspiration from the Nazarene.
>>736379273id join the stormcloaks but then push for the moot so theres an armstice
>>736399473Alessia? Or is she just a saint?
Why don't like fifty nords spend a decade learning to shout and then murder the entire dominion? Unironically what is the counterplay to this strategy?
>>736399654The Nerevarine is more like the Jewish messiah than the Christian one
>>736399827Shouting is strictly gatekept by the Greybeards, who prohibit its use in war. And even if that wasn't the case, it's nowhere near as powerful as you seem to think it is, lorewise the Nords lost wars to the Chimer, the Bosmer and the Direnni High Elves back when shouting was still a widely practiced and used for warfare.
>Nords fighting the Empire for the right to worship an Imperial god
>>736399827Nords at their peak got mogged by chimer mud farmers with spears made of bugs lol
>>736399827>implying nords can plan a decade in advanceThey'd kill each other before the first year is out.
>>736399427It's protestantism nonesense where everything is evil and satanic. The Church only condemns media that glorifies violence, sex and anti social behavior. Skyrim has violence but it's not glorifying it, you get punished for attacking inocent people. Catholics are the most rational Christians out there, we're not afraid of videogames, movies or any kind of fiction as long as it's not apollogetic for sinful behavior.
>>736398671Finland and Ireland ended in the gods themselves getting converted into Christianity, it wasn't all fire and brimstone and proto-crusading.
>>736381562No, it's completely fucking gay that you can't say "no way fag" to the companions without mods, especially when they explicitly state that not all of them are werewolves.
>>736399827Todd decided it would be too interesting if Nords could shout so now only a couple of them can do it
>>736379273As a Catholic you should be engaged in prayer and quiet contemplation of the mysteries of the Lord's creation instead of wasting your time playing video games.
>>736401195Norway's conversion is a fun one. Saint Olaf I think.
>>736401281The lore about shouting being an extremely rare thing in the modern day has been around since Redguard's Pocket Guide to the Empire, i.e the thing Shouts come from in the first place.
>>736401337I play videogames while listening to audiobooks of the Bible, the Catechism and the Church Fathers.
>>736401353It also says the Empire was trying to revive the practice and is such an old (in-universe) document that it could have made a comeback by the time of TESV. It could go either way, I just don't like the way they chose
>>736401337Pretty sure OP is no longer reading this thread as it completely devolved into debates about imperial or stormcloak, religions, lore accuracy, and lunacy at this point.We elder scrolls fans are a weird bunch.
>>736401458Then what you're doing is purely performative. If you're an actual Christian you should know that prayer requires your focus and undivided attention.If you're going to play games, play games. Don't pollute one with the other.
>>736401635Studying =/= praying.
>>736392927People keep misinterpreting the no killing thing. The original translation mean preplanned murder/killing. Self defense is never outlawed.
>>736401458>second screen watching your religionthis is hilarious
>>736401672You aren't studying anything if all you're doing is leaving an audiobook on while you play COD.
>>736401528The PGE characterizes Tiber Septim's college of the voice as a bunch of larping charlatans in YR's notes
>>736401717But if you role-playing as a based Christian, you would be following the 10 commandments, hence no killing anyone, bandits or even thalmor. You'd have ro turn this playthrough into a stealthrun and let followers do all the killing for you, but even then the game counts those kills as your own
>>736401903It's an entirely sensible outcome for the voice to remain as rare as it is, I just don't think it's an interesting outcome
>>736402024Modern larp Christian sure. but anyone who actually read the original translations know it got changed by retarded anglos in the medieval ages. Localizers are faggots no matter the culture and time period
>>736401339They killed the hell out of him, though. Stiklestad, bitch.
>>736399789>Using the shit remake modelCome on anon, you're better than that.
Pfft.Mondays, am I right?
This is a fictional game and you should join whoever you think is funFictional politics have no standing whatsoever with being catholic I join the Empire because Jarl Baalgruf is based
Rape SerenaFuck FreaMarry Moll
>>736402883Ah, I see you're a follower of molar bal? Finishing what he started?
>>736379451that's just how empires were back in the days of yore
>>736379273>As a Catholiclollmao
>>736401339https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lscatVdogGY
>>736379273As a human, I hope you're not too fucking stupid to interface with a fictional setting by its own rules.
>>736379273The Stormcloaks are genuinely fucking retarded.
>>736379273Stormcloaks
>Do I value security over freedom?>Do I value the government betraying its own constituents for a tenuous "peace" that is, in reality, very brutal for many of the provinces thanks to the militaristic and tyrannical Thalmor (Zionists) trying to stamp out all worship of one deity in particular just because it goes against their ways. >Do I want to parade around my own virtue, extolling my own superficial benevolence, believing myself to be righteous in trying to hold together an empire that can't even protect its own citizens after kowtowing to an evil island nation hellbent on destroying existence and life as we know it all for some ephemeral peace and stability? >Yeah, as a Catholic...I should side with the Empire, not the Stormcloaks.
>>736379874The Empire lost bigly but the Thalmor also lost a ton of elves thanks to the Redguard and Nord meatshields that the Empire threw at them.They would have beaten the Empire eventually but to an extreme cost of manpower so they accepted the Empire's surrender.The Thalmor employed combined arms with heavy magic while the Empire used medieval style tactics with little to no magic, just relying on raw manpower and meatshields from their Redguard and Nord warriors. The Thalmor used Bosmer archer spam and Argonian chaff against the Empire frontline.The Redguards from Hammerfell employed gorilla tactics that wore the Thalmor down and forced them to leave southern Hammerfell with a separate treaty.
>>736407436The Elves achieved their strategic goals incredibly early thanks to the surprise attack they launched at the start of the war. That sudden success convinced the Dominion to extend further inland into Cyrodiil, as they assumed the Empire was far weaker than their initial estimates assumed. When the Imperials finally had their shit together, they came back after the loss of the Imperial City to begin the Battle of the Red Ring, and thoroughly destroyed all Elven forces in Cyrodiil, including the capture and execution of the Dominion general who led the Elven forces.I won't say that the elves had superior tactics, but they clearly had superior initiative at the start of the war, and if they'd kept to their original intentions they would've gotten everything they wanted and forced the Empire to concede then and there.
Tiber Septim isn't even a Nord, he's from Atmora who lived in High Rock who then ventured into Skyrim all the way down to Cyrodiil.You don't hear Bretons chimping out about leaving the Empire, Daggerfall has more Talos statues than Oblivion and Skyrim.
>>736402883>Rape SeranaI think even touching Serana intimately would instantly turn her catatonic and will instantly give her PTSD from the Molag Bal macing she received
>>736407646>would instantly turn her catatonic and will instantly give her PTSD from the Molag Bal macing she receivedI can only get so erect.
>>736407572They were using tower Elder Scroll magic to buff their troops.
>>736407693It's not fun if she's just going to be a dead fish with her legs spread out not reacting at all while having deadish eyes, probably not even wet down there
>>736407997>It's not fun if she's just going to be a dead fish with her legs spread out not reacting at all while having deadish eyes, probably not even wet down therePerfect meal for Molag Bal's followers
>>736379273>the empireIs more akin, from a religious angle, to the Catholic Church of the modern world/as predicted in the Inquisitor by Dostoyevsky. Ie a corrupted globohomo institution that now actively denies Christ (Talos) at the behest of their satanic jewish (High Elf) masters.Overall lore wise Talos isn’t really identified with Jesus but he’s clearly meant to be seen as a parallel to Christ within the plot of Skyrim (a man ascended to Godhood and is revered by the white nordics and the high elves want to stamp his worship out because it draws into question their ‘superiority’ and claim to divine favor). They operate in the shadows and attempt to stamp this out by operating via proxy through the multicultural empire so that they aren’t immediately seen as the obvious/direct agents behind this. Appropriately, the high elves are the true race obsessed supremacists, while the nords simply want to maintain autonomy so as to maintain their religious freedom and worship, and their “racism” amounts to some people making derisive comments about dark elves and shit in some cities, which given dark elves themselves freely enslave and have slurs for Nords and others in their own homeland is hardly some shocking display of immorality.
>>736407612Probably because they're smart enough to keep their Talos worship a secret because they know the Dominion can't maintain their hold on the Empire forever.
>>736407997Pretty sure he just made it clear that he does indeed think that would be fun.
desu the last dragonborn should have been made the high kang even marrying elisifwould have been more kino if he married serana and mara's gaze turned her human, pure and chaste once again while auriel draws a happy sun face in the sky :)
>>736408260What you're describing is just the Romans in the Bible. The Empire is evolving backwards where it shifted from a multi-cultural superpower capable of sending satellites into space to a high-medieval feudal society to something resembling the post-Marian reform legions of the early Imperial era, becoming more homogeneous with each iteration.
>>736409002Anon, the Empire was only able to keep that multiculturalism intact by enforcing local Cyrodilic customs on top of it and enforcing peace through force. The moment the Empire lost that authority thanks to the Oblivion crisis is when it all started going to shit. Not having a divinely ordained ruler also meant a lot of people lost faith in the rule of the emperor since the person in charge no longer has the blessing of the Divines to back it up. Titus Mede isn't a Septim, so he'll never have that same level of justification to his rule.
Empire is led by the retarded and corrupt>Siddgeir doesn't even care about Falkreath and only cares about partying, doesn't even have any reaction about Helgen getting burned to a crisp much less rebuilding it>Ravencrone is a boomer who LARPs as a seer, clearly has dementia and not fit for office>Elisif is just Torygg's wife and has zero experience in leading people, literally a figurehead who will get assassinated herself by the more ambitious politicians>Igmund is also just a figurehead, Markarth is led by the Silver Bloods behind the scenes>if Laila is replaced in Riften, Maven takes over who is even far more corrupt>Brunwulf Free Winter simply takes the status quo, still bans Argonians and Dumbmer are still reviled even with Empire troops replacing all of the Windhelm guard>Kraldar gets elevated simply because of nepotism>Balgruuf is literally a fence-sitter who only sides with the Empire when Ulfric decides to siege WhiterunMeanwhile Stormcloak leaders outside of Laila are just conservative boomers who just want the old ways
>>736409163Still, if we're going for biblical motifs the Empire in Skyrim are squarely the Roman Empire, acting as the muscle and enforcers for a group it doesn't agree with on a personal level for reasons of circumstance. If the Thalmor are the Jews, it is because they view themselves as gods-to-be or degraded gods and see their ascension as inevitable, and Talos proves that it is indeed possible for a mortal to ascend to the divine, yet in a way that runs contrary to their assumption that only Mer souls have that innate spark that once set free of material existence will fruit into godhood, casting Men away forever.
>>736379498>worship pope and not GodI thought it was Saint Mary. You fucking protties should have been exterminated 500 year ago.
>>736397317>about how the Sumerians "walked out of the water and brought with them culture and civilization"Huh, so that's why Dominions included these guys
>>736409441So wait, high elves are jews cause they are basically the chosen people who want to ascend, and hate the race of men (basically gentiles and christians) because they were allowed to ascend (men allowed the same resurrection that the jews were promised), proven by Tiber septim becoming talos (Jesus raised from the dead and ascending to heaven)?Interesting. Suddenly things in the real world make sense now...
>>736379273Neither, the best thing you can do is shut the game. What a boring and miserable game. Its overworld is the only thing worth preserving.
>>736380374No, you install a mod that allows you to go on a holy crusade against the evil monsters of the region and save the world.
>>736379273Such a lovely community
>>736379397We don't tolerate your kind here
>>736379273Talos/Tiber Septim is the Jesus-figure of Tamriel.This made clear by the fact that the Elves (jews of Tamriel) ban worship of him.
>>736413561>s s she is a turncoat that needs to be killedShe has a vagina, and one of the few who can be considered a looker in this ugly ass game even without mods. Gooning > lore
>>736409813The High Elves (and all other elves in setting) would just return to primordial soul stuff floating around in non-linear time soup doing whatever it is aedric spirits do. Humanity and all other creatures that exist entirely in Nirn would cease to exist if the Thalmor got their way and unwound the fabric of reality.
>>736413321Do you understand how transed one needs to be to post a fucking comment in nexusmods?
>>736413561Turn Saadia into my personal sperm toilet
Est in peace lil nigga
>>736379273Stormcloaks because they weren't ones who wanted to chop your head off in first place. Also independent Skyrim is a middle finger to the empire. Thalmor hands are everywhere anyway, only difference being that empire is more pozzed by (((them))).
>>736416797Looks like he's scratching his ass so violently that it's spraying blood.
Shit thread OP doesn't even know the lore go read the lore retard. You just needed to insert you stupid kike religion into it
>>736379273As the Dovakin godking you should be usurping Skyrim to serve you.
>>736379273Depends really, Empire was fine with Skyrim worshiping Thalos quietly until Ulfric started to chimp out. If you want a better chance of beating the elfs in the future probably the Empire or if you're a Thalos purist go Stormcloaks (Skyrim will get extra cucked in the future war with the sussy elfs tho)
WE MUST BE BETTER DOGS !
>>736379273Why are there so many larping Christians these days? None of you guys are actually religious or you wouldn't be hanging around 4chan. You'd be out loving your neighbor and trying to live in a socialist multiracial utopia.
>>736421056You don't know me.
>>736421056Hmm, my browndar is going off... what could this mean?
>>736379273personally I like the storm cloak storyline better.
>>736379479every single time. it doesn't matter what I choose I always end up being a filthy sneak theif archer with paralysis magic.
>>736421056Jesus said nothing about loving our enimes who infiltrate us.
>>736421346Jesus said nothing as far as history goes. He never wrote anything since he was an illiterate kike beggar
>>736407436why dont bretons plap thalmor spellswords
>>736421346But he did though. He said turn the other cheek, judge no one for their actions, etc. The entire christian ideology is about opening your arms to your enemies and letting them kill you so you can remain morally virtuous.
>>736421346>jesus' whole thing was that he subverted messianic warrior prophecies from the old testament by being a "warlord" who "conquered" the world with love and non-violence>but he would totally want me to be a nazi who kills bad people because uh uh uh he slapped a money changer literally ONE time if you want to participate in a warrior religion so bad, be a pagan.
>>736421056Backlash to 50 years of anti religion getting us to this point.
>>736422373This
>>736379273Go join the imperial goyim like the good cuck you are
>>736380374Why is that? I know youre probably just being stupid, but ive seen this come up again on recent times. When I was a kid the satanic panic got my grandma so I wasnt able to play dungeons and dragons. My mom got me dungeon dice yugioh board game one time, but I had to keep it a secret from grandma
>>736380964Mine got tricked into it. Mora bestowed some knowledge to her and she couldn't resist. (She answered before I could get the chat box open to reply) Its the same character from picrelated. After defeating miraak mora reached out with something she wanted more than anything (she was a vigilant at the time) and she took the deal
>>736425938Because the religious are superstitious people who jump at shadows, and even pretend mentions of things that are spooky or mystic triggers them.
>>736385924Reddit loves them. Sometimes I softly troll their shbreddit>picrelatedI like to see how they justify some of the shit they preach. Im currently getting a list of all the countries by saying "does hammerfell belong to the redguards?" I posted post one every few days, the last one will be "does skyrim belong to the nords?"So far, each province belongs to each race jist by tallying the votes. I know they will overwhelmingly attack the skyrim nord thing so I want to document it with proof, then ask them
>>736392793>petty>my executionTheres no way to justify them
>>736379273>Thalos who is like a nord JesusNo, not even remotely.Unless you want to go for the Kirkbride hurr shezarrine route, Talos was a dude who used metaphysics to steal himself a legend and mantle together from other people and ascended.
>>736414321Sounds like you're just a SIMP doing what a woman tells you do
